Take them to court , including the board of directors and ministers and send them to jail .

The thing that makes me mad is that for decades many crooks have used the cover of political allegiance in order to enrich themselves. These crooks should have their assets, obtained due to theft, stripped, and those assets sold with the proceedings returned to the state. We can always argue about pay, perks, and pensions. But when it involves family and friends, then it is no longer government corruption. It is defrauding the state. How many other worthwhile companies might have been able to do a better job for the same money?

Guyoil build huge facilities in Essequibo to facilitate huge ship and storage for the fuel but these fraudsters bring the ship to Versailles and hired trucks that was own by their family and friends to transport the fuel .This cause millions of dollars per year .

The President and ministers should be taken to court for trial. This will set a example not to thief .

baseman posted:

Mr.T posted:

The thing that makes me mad is that for decades many crooks have used the cover of political allegiance in order to enrich themselves. These crooks should have their assets, obtained due to theft, stripped, and those assets sold with the proceedings returned to the state. We can always argue about pay, perks, and pensions. But when it involves family and friends, then it is no longer government corruption. It is defrauding the state. How many other worthwhile companies might have been able to do a better job for the same money?

You are always mad for no reason whatsoever!!

So you saying there is no reason? Guyana was far better known as an exporter before the Chinese boom in the 90's, or even Singapore and Malaysia. And look where they are compared to where Guyana is.

baseman posted:

ian posted:

Guyoil build huge facilities in Essequibo to facilitate huge ship and storage but these fraudsters bring the ship to Versailles and hired trucks that was own by their family and friends to transport the fuel .This cause millions of dollars per year .

The President and ministers should be taken to court for trial. This will set a example not to thief .

You have to prove fraud or intent.  You cannot just drag people to court!  How do you know it costs millions if it's not measured against an objective and credible barometer?

Fraud can only be inferred if payment to whoever was materially above the costs such services could have been obtained from an independent and credible 3rd party.

Regardless, hiring family without a transparent vetting process does not look good, fraud or no fraud!

Base, I know what I am saying buddy. My family  are heavily involved with the PPP and we speak out against these things, as a result we give up our position. We are still committed to the party.  

Wrong is wrong and we knew it was only a matter of time before these came out .  

I agree you have to prove Fraud, why waste the tax payers money by hiring trucks when you have the facilities build by the state. 

The credit card business - this how it works, by putting the money in  the family / employee credit , 100 million will be deposited and half would be paying out, which should be the real amount.  

ian posted:

Base, I know what I am saying buddy. My family  are heavily involved with the PPP and we speak out against these things, as a result we give up our position. We are still committed to the party. 

Tell your family to be careful. When my grandfather spoke out against others in the PPP he got sold out to Burnham, thereby ending with just the shirt on his back afterwards. Burnham stole everything he could take from us. What was left was shared by a couple of crabdag coolies in bed with Burnham in Linden. DG still hasn't explained how his Indian family was one of the few to survive with their wealth intact in Linden. Sawh also did speak up, and look at how he was rewarded.

Mr.T posted:

ian posted:

Base, I know what I am saying buddy. My family  are heavily involved with the PPP and we speak out against these things, as a result we give up our position. We are still committed to the party. 

Tell your family to be careful. When my grandfather spoke out against others in the PPP he got sold out to Burnham, thereby ending with just the shirt on his back afterwards. Burnham stole everything he could take from us. What was left was shared by a couple of crabdag coolies in bed with Burnham in Linden. DG still hasn't explained how his Indian family was one of the few to survive with their wealth intact in Linden. Sawh also did speak up, and look at how he was rewarded.

Varshnie father Bannie along with other die hard, honest hard working PPP went to freedom house and speak out against the wholesale thief and was thrown out .

These men then migrate or kept a low profile and PPP lost it supporters .

I am speaking from experience , when I say the above .

O'lall must be turning in his grave.

baseman posted:

On the top, bit of incompetence and managerial negligence!

Actual fraud, big leap!

 

Its interesting that you don't consider this corruption. 

I see that the brown bai KKK can find any excuse for criminal behavior, of the perp is an Indian!

baseman posted:

ian posted:

Guyoil build huge facilities in Essequibo to facilitate huge ship and storage but these fraudsters bring the ship to Versailles and hired trucks that was own by their family and friends to transport the fuel .This cause millions of dollars per year .

The President and ministers should be taken to court for trial. This will set a example not to thief .

You have to prove fraud or intent. 

The audit proved that there is enough to merit a trial.

Now let us see if the coalition gov't puts their money where their mouths are an actually bring the corrupt to court.

baseman posted:

On the top, bit of incompetence and managerial negligence!

Actual fraud, big leap!

Did his relatives receive payments for services well above the realm of what's reasonable or what other credible alternatives offer?  If proven, this would be fraud!

Clearly some Code of Conduct and rules of engagement needs to be tightened up!!

Regardless, fraud or no fraud, it just does not look good!!

Are you now calling those supposed well seasoned cake-shop managers you often spoke of in contrast of those who you say cannot manage a cake-shop, incompetent? In any event, calling them incompetent to excuse their nepotism and dubious management practice will not negate the  appropriate label, Crooks!

ian posted:

Mr.T posted:

ian posted:

Base, I know what I am saying buddy. My family  are heavily involved with the PPP and we speak out against these things, as a result we give up our position. We are still committed to the party. 

Tell your family to be careful. When my grandfather spoke out against others in the PPP he got sold out to Burnham, thereby ending with just the shirt on his back afterwards. Burnham stole everything he could take from us. What was left was shared by a couple of crabdag coolies in bed with Burnham in Linden. DG still hasn't explained how his Indian family was one of the few to survive with their wealth intact in Linden. Sawh also did speak up, and look at how he was rewarded.

Varshnie father Bannie along with other die hard, honest hard working PPP went to freedom house and speak out against the wholesale thief and was thrown out .

These men then migrate or kept a low profile and PPP lost it supporters .

I am speaking from experience , when I say the above .

Ian..kudos for your honesty  bhai.

baseman posted:

ian posted:

Guyoil build huge facilities in Essequibo to facilitate huge ship and storage but these fraudsters bring the ship to Versailles and hired trucks that was own by their family and friends to transport the fuel .This cause millions of dollars per year .

The President and ministers should be taken to court for trial. This will set a example not to thief .

You have to prove fraud or intent.  You cannot just drag people to court!  How do you know it costs millions if it's not measured against an objective and credible barometer?

Fraud can only be inferred if payment to whoever was materially above the costs such services could have been obtained from an independent and credible 3rd party.

Regardless, hiring family without a transparent vetting process does not look good, fraud or no fraud!

If Imelda Marcos's 1000 pairs of shoes out paced her husbands official salary many fold one can infer she sourced the purchasing power from somewhere else....ie crookedness.

Granger needs to go after these people using our tax and racketeering laws if he cannot get them on actual defrauding of government assets.

Mitwah posted:

O'lall must be turning in his grave.

He need a monument to him....he said they were crooks and the booted him from office.

Stormborn posted:

Mitwah posted:

O'lall must be turning in his grave.

He need a monument to him....he said they were crooks and the booted him from office.

I am trying to find the old treads on him and Buddy et al and events leading up to his firing.

Is criminal justice being compromised by having PPP MPs as special prosecutors?

Dear Editor,
Re: “GRA officers, Customs brokers slapped with initial 72 conspiracy, forgery charges,” (Kaieteur News, April 29), brings to a head the long awaited charges that the acting Auditor-General recommended in a report he submitted four months ago, following an extensive and intensive probe of the Polar Beer-Fidelity scam.
But what seems to have shocked many who are following this case, is that no one from Fidelity Investments has been charged!!
Like many others, I do recall President Bharrat Jagdeo ordering a task force that included the Auditor General, Deodat Sharma, to investigate alleged improprieties between the GRA officers, a broker and Fidelity Investment/Kong Inc, but I vaguely recollect thinking the circumstances surrounding which the President took action might have been part of some political retaliation. In fact, at that time, the names of certain prominent individuals once associated with the government or the PPP were being circulated, so now that the charges are being laid, I am somewhat surprised that none of those names are mentioned.
Up to now, no one seems to know for sure who blew the whistle on this case; whether it was Fidelity Investments or someone inside the GRA, but if it was Fidelity, I don’t think we can expect to see charges being instituted against any of its officials. If it was a GRA whistleblower, then the government may have a case against the people identified so far for indictment. What we also don’t know is if the report also calls for anybody from Fidelity to be indicted, and this should be made public if defence attorneys have access to the report.
Nevertheless, we have been told that the basis of the charges was that Fidelity paid duties on soft drinks when in fact it was beer in the container, and so the principal question that needs to be answered, going forward in this case, is whether Fidelity knowingly paid duties on soft drinks when in fact it knew beer was in the container? This might well come out if or when the case goes to trial.
But to shed light on this now, defence attorneys can simply check the receipts – originals and duplicates – detailing the transactions to determine whether this was a one-time activity or an ongoing activity. The reason for this question is, if it were a one-time activity, it sure took a lot of people – 13 from the GRA plus two Customs brokers – to collaborate on for an extremely brief period. Logic says that with this many people, this was an ongoing activity.
So, if Fidelity has receipts showing it has long been paying for soft drinks but receiving beer, and if GRA officers and Customs brokers have copies of receipts to corroborate an ongoing activity, then Fidelity cannot be exculpated! How this scam really worked is what we need to get to the bottom of to determine if justice is being meted out fairly. Looking at the names and pictures of all those people indicted, not one of them looks like they belong to the wealthy class in Guyana, and we all know many wealthy Guyanese whose source of wealth could easily land them in court if they were ever investigated.
Meanwhile, I am in complete agreement with the Polar beer defence team expressing outrage over the appointment of Senior Counsel Bernard De Santos as a special prosecutor in this case. Mr. De Santos, a former Attorney-General and Legal Affairs Minister in the PPP Government, is also a current PPP MP.
There may yet be, but I know of no case precedent in the Caribbean or the Commonwealth where the government ever tapped a legislative member who sits on the government’s side of the bench to handle a criminal case in which the government is the plaintiff, but I do recall a recent case precedent in Guyana of the President appointing attorney Anil Nandlall, a PPP MP, as special prosecutor in the case of the Government versus Buddy Shivraj on fuel smuggling charges brought by the now deceased Joseph O’Lall of the Guyana Energy Authority.
That case dragged on for a couple of years and was eventually dismissed following the President’s firing of O’Lall from his job as head of the GEA and after a new magistrate said something about the case being akin to asking someone to fetch water in a basket. The President’s special prosecutor did not appear too upset about the ruling and nonchalantly promised an appeal, although he knew the man who brought the charges was dead. To date, we are not sure if he ever did, and if not, why not!
By the way Mr. Nandlall, who was identified by Mr. Oliver Hinckson as an emissary of the President at a time when Mr. Hinckson was being accused of making seditious statements, denied he was an emissary but acted in an attorney-client privilege setting. Mr. Hinckson was subsequently remanded to prison where he spent four months before being released on bail.
So when Mr. De Santos says, “I’m sitting on a government bench in Parliament but I am not a member of the People’s Progressive Party,” he has to recognise that he is talking to a politically matured population that knows that MPs are not elected directly by voters but on a party list system and, therefore, must have an allegiance to the party in order to serve. It is, therefore, a slap in the face of intelligent people who long for a working justice system to hear him also claim, “I have no political baggage, and I reject any grandstanding of the lawyers who are claiming that.”
Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the court case involving the millions of dollars stolen by several OP female employees from a President’s fund for underprivileged children. And we also want to know the status of the millions of dollars that were not in the Consolidated Fund when the Finance Minister did an audit of OP, but which millions the President eventually broke silence on by saying he is troubled that it ended up in a Bank of Baroda account. Is the money still at Baroda or is it back in the CF? By the way, how did public money end up in a private bank account in Baroda in the first place?
Emile Mervin

Base, The PNC acn do anything and Ian Smith would not see a problem with dat.  Dont waste time with FOOLS

Mitwah posted:

Stormborn posted:

Mitwah posted:

O'lall must be turning in his grave.

He need a monument to him....he said they were crooks and the booted him from office.

I am trying to find the old treads on him and Buddy et al and events leading up to his firing.

Is criminal justice being compromised by having PPP MPs as special prosecutors?

May 1, 2009 | By knews | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor,
Re: “GRA officers, Customs brokers slapped with initial 72 conspiracy, forgery charges,” (Kaieteur News, April 29), brings to a head the long awaited charges that the acting Auditor-General recommended in a report he submitted four months ago, following an extensive and intensive probe of the Polar Beer-Fidelity scam.
But what seems to have shocked many who are following this case, is that no one from Fidelity Investments has been charged!!
Like many others, I do recall President Bharrat Jagdeo ordering a task force that included the Auditor General, Deodat Sharma, to investigate alleged improprieties between the GRA officers, a broker and Fidelity Investment/Kong Inc, but I vaguely recollect thinking the circumstances surrounding which the President took action might have been part of some political retaliation. In fact, at that time, the names of certain prominent individuals once associated with the government or the PPP were being circulated, so now that the charges are being laid, I am somewhat surprised that none of those names are mentioned.
Up to now, no one seems to know for sure who blew the whistle on this case; whether it was Fidelity Investments or someone inside the GRA, but if it was Fidelity, I don’t think we can expect to see charges being instituted against any of its officials. If it was a GRA whistleblower, then the government may have a case against the people identified so far for indictment. What we also don’t know is if the report also calls for anybody from Fidelity to be indicted, and this should be made public if defence attorneys have access to the report.
Nevertheless, we have been told that the basis of the charges was that Fidelity paid duties on soft drinks when in fact it was beer in the container, and so the principal question that needs to be answered, going forward in this case, is whether Fidelity knowingly paid duties on soft drinks when in fact it knew beer was in the container? This might well come out if or when the case goes to trial.
But to shed light on this now, defence attorneys can simply check the receipts – originals and duplicates – detailing the transactions to determine whether this was a one-time activity or an ongoing activity. The reason for this question is, if it were a one-time activity, it sure took a lot of people – 13 from the GRA plus two Customs brokers – to collaborate on for an extremely brief period. Logic says that with this many people, this was an ongoing activity.
So, if Fidelity has receipts showing it has long been paying for soft drinks but receiving beer, and if GRA officers and Customs brokers have copies of receipts to corroborate an ongoing activity, then Fidelity cannot be exculpated! How this scam really worked is what we need to get to the bottom of to determine if justice is being meted out fairly. Looking at the names and pictures of all those people indicted, not one of them looks like they belong to the wealthy class in Guyana, and we all know many wealthy Guyanese whose source of wealth could easily land them in court if they were ever investigated.
Meanwhile, I am in complete agreement with the Polar beer defence team expressing outrage over the appointment of Senior Counsel Bernard De Santos as a special prosecutor in this case. Mr. De Santos, a former Attorney-General and Legal Affairs Minister in the PPP Government, is also a current PPP MP.
There may yet be, but I know of no case precedent in the Caribbean or the Commonwealth where the government ever tapped a legislative member who sits on the government’s side of the bench to handle a criminal case in which the government is the plaintiff, but I do recall a recent case precedent in Guyana of the President appointing attorney Anil Nandlall, a PPP MP, as special prosecutor in the case of the Government versus Buddy Shivraj on fuel smuggling charges brought by the now deceased Joseph O’Lall of the Guyana Energy Authority.
That case dragged on for a couple of years and was eventually dismissed following the President’s firing of O’Lall from his job as head of the GEA and after a new magistrate said something about the case being akin to asking someone to fetch water in a basket. The President’s special prosecutor did not appear too upset about the ruling and nonchalantly promised an appeal, although he knew the man who brought the charges was dead. To date, we are not sure if he ever did, and if not, why not!
By the way Mr. Nandlall, who was identified by Mr. Oliver Hinckson as an emissary of the President at a time when Mr. Hinckson was being accused of making seditious statements, denied he was an emissary but acted in an attorney-client privilege setting. Mr. Hinckson was subsequently remanded to prison where he spent four months before being released on bail.
So when Mr. De Santos says, “I’m sitting on a government bench in Parliament but I am not a member of the People’s Progressive Party,” he has to recognise that he is talking to a politically matured population that knows that MPs are not elected directly by voters but on a party list system and, therefore, must have an allegiance to the party in order to serve. It is, therefore, a slap in the face of intelligent people who long for a working justice system to hear him also claim, “I have no political baggage, and I reject any grandstanding of the lawyers who are claiming that.”
Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the court case involving the millions of dollars stolen by several OP female employees from a President’s fund for underprivileged children. And we also want to know the status of the millions of dollars that were not in the Consolidated Fund when the Finance Minister did an audit of OP, but which millions the President eventually broke silence on by saying he is troubled that it ended up in a Bank of Baroda account. Is the money still at Baroda or is it back in the CF? By the way, how did public money end up in a private bank account in Baroda in the first place?
Emile Mervin

When people lack judgement and basic education, is that when they cut and paste outdated articles that is irrelevant to the subject at hand?????

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mitwah posted:

Stormborn posted:

Mitwah posted:

O'lall must be turning in his grave.

He need a monument to him....he said they were crooks and the booted him from office.

I am trying to find the old treads on him and Buddy et al and events leading up to his firing.

Is criminal justice being compromised by having PPP MPs as special prosecutors?

May 1, 2009 | By knews | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor,
Re: “GRA officers, Customs brokers slapped with initial 72 conspiracy, forgery charges,” (Kaieteur News, April 29), brings to a head the long awaited charges that the acting Auditor-General recommended in a report he submitted four months ago, following an extensive and intensive probe of the Polar Beer-Fidelity scam.
But what seems to have shocked many who are following this case, is that no one from Fidelity Investments has been charged!!
Like many others, I do recall President Bharrat Jagdeo ordering a task force that included the Auditor General, Deodat Sharma, to investigate alleged improprieties between the GRA officers, a broker and Fidelity Investment/Kong Inc, but I vaguely recollect thinking the circumstances surrounding which the President took action might have been part of some political retaliation. In fact, at that time, the names of certain prominent individuals once associated with the government or the PPP were being circulated, so now that the charges are being laid, I am somewhat surprised that none of those names are mentioned.
Up to now, no one seems to know for sure who blew the whistle on this case; whether it was Fidelity Investments or someone inside the GRA, but if it was Fidelity, I don’t think we can expect to see charges being instituted against any of its officials. If it was a GRA whistleblower, then the government may have a case against the people identified so far for indictment. What we also don’t know is if the report also calls for anybody from Fidelity to be indicted, and this should be made public if defence attorneys have access to the report.
Nevertheless, we have been told that the basis of the charges was that Fidelity paid duties on soft drinks when in fact it was beer in the container, and so the principal question that needs to be answered, going forward in this case, is whether Fidelity knowingly paid duties on soft drinks when in fact it knew beer was in the container? This might well come out if or when the case goes to trial.
But to shed light on this now, defence attorneys can simply check the receipts – originals and duplicates – detailing the transactions to determine whether this was a one-time activity or an ongoing activity. The reason for this question is, if it were a one-time activity, it sure took a lot of people – 13 from the GRA plus two Customs brokers – to collaborate on for an extremely brief period. Logic says that with this many people, this was an ongoing activity.
So, if Fidelity has receipts showing it has long been paying for soft drinks but receiving beer, and if GRA officers and Customs brokers have copies of receipts to corroborate an ongoing activity, then Fidelity cannot be exculpated! How this scam really worked is what we need to get to the bottom of to determine if justice is being meted out fairly. Looking at the names and pictures of all those people indicted, not one of them looks like they belong to the wealthy class in Guyana, and we all know many wealthy Guyanese whose source of wealth could easily land them in court if they were ever investigated.
Meanwhile, I am in complete agreement with the Polar beer defence team expressing outrage over the appointment of Senior Counsel Bernard De Santos as a special prosecutor in this case. Mr. De Santos, a former Attorney-General and Legal Affairs Minister in the PPP Government, is also a current PPP MP.
There may yet be, but I know of no case precedent in the Caribbean or the Commonwealth where the government ever tapped a legislative member who sits on the government’s side of the bench to handle a criminal case in which the government is the plaintiff, but I do recall a recent case precedent in Guyana of the President appointing attorney Anil Nandlall, a PPP MP, as special prosecutor in the case of the Government versus Buddy Shivraj on fuel smuggling charges brought by the now deceased Joseph O’Lall of the Guyana Energy Authority.
That case dragged on for a couple of years and was eventually dismissed following the President’s firing of O’Lall from his job as head of the GEA and after a new magistrate said something about the case being akin to asking someone to fetch water in a basket. The President’s special prosecutor did not appear too upset about the ruling and nonchalantly promised an appeal, although he knew the man who brought the charges was dead. To date, we are not sure if he ever did, and if not, why not!
By the way Mr. Nandlall, who was identified by Mr. Oliver Hinckson as an emissary of the President at a time when Mr. Hinckson was being accused of making seditious statements, denied he was an emissary but acted in an attorney-client privilege setting. Mr. Hinckson was subsequently remanded to prison where he spent four months before being released on bail.
So when Mr. De Santos says, “I’m sitting on a government bench in Parliament but I am not a member of the People’s Progressive Party,” he has to recognise that he is talking to a politically matured population that knows that MPs are not elected directly by voters but on a party list system and, therefore, must have an allegiance to the party in order to serve. It is, therefore, a slap in the face of intelligent people who long for a working justice system to hear him also claim, “I have no political baggage, and I reject any grandstanding of the lawyers who are claiming that.”
Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the court case involving the millions of dollars stolen by several OP female employees from a President’s fund for underprivileged children. And we also want to know the status of the millions of dollars that were not in the Consolidated Fund when the Finance Minister did an audit of OP, but which millions the President eventually broke silence on by saying he is troubled that it ended up in a Bank of Baroda account. Is the money still at Baroda or is it back in the CF? By the way, how did public money end up in a private bank account in Baroda in the first place?
Emile Mervin

When people lack judgement and basic education, is that when they cut and paste outdated articles that is irrelevant to the subject at hand?????

I found out that you were the one that got me suspended.

What is obvious is that the proper controls were not in place to allow these type of inappropriate actions to occurs. My understanding was that contracts should be subject to a bidding process, how as this check bypassed? Has the afc/apnu implemented the appropriate measures to prevent further occurrences.  Apparently the system is broken.

Drugb posted:

What is obvious is that the proper controls were not in place to allow these type of inappropriate actions to occurs. My understanding was that contracts should be subject to a bidding process, how as this check bypassed? Has the afc/apnu implemented the appropriate measures to prevent further occurrences.  Apparently the system is broken.

O'Lall died trying to fix it.

Drugb posted:

What is obvious is that the proper controls were not in place to allow these type of inappropriate actions to occurs. My understanding was that contracts should be subject to a bidding process, how as this check bypassed? Has the afc/apnu implemented the appropriate measures to prevent further occurrences.  Apparently the system is broken.

You yap given incomplete information as usual. The PPP deliberately refused to install the accounts receivable and the inventory packages on their distributed accounting system. They paid over a 100 million for the entire package. The only reason to not have those two key components install is because they want to steal.

Nehru posted:

Base, The PNC acn do anything and Ian Smith would not see a problem with dat.  Dont waste time with FOOLS

Don't you ever have anything sensible to say. Jesus fkin crist you have got to be fighting with the snake for the #1 a-hole spot of GNI. Your dumbass posts should be scrapped, it makes us all look bad.

ian posted:

Take them to court , including the board of directors and ministers and send them to jail .

That's right. Jail all of the thieves.

yuji22 posted:

ian posted:

Take them to court , including the board of directors and ministers and send them to jail .

That's right. Jail all of the thieves.

Jail all of the thieves that were appointed by the PPP regime.

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

ian posted:

Take them to court , including the board of directors and ministers and send them to jail .

That's right. Jail all of the thieves.

Jail all of the thieves that were appointed by the PPP regime.

And jail all dem AFC/PNC politicians liars who filled their bellies and bank account at the expense of the poor.

yuji22 posted:

And jail all dem AFC/PNC politicians liars who filled their bellies and bank account at the expense of the poor.

The salary increases are being enjoyed not only by AFC/PNC politicians but also by PPP parliamentarians. I was among the first persons in this forum to say it was immoral. However, it was not illegal so jail is out of the question.

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

And jail all dem AFC/PNC politicians liars who filled their bellies and bank account at the expense of the poor.

The salary increases are being enjoyed not only by AFC/PNC politicians but also by PPP parliamentarians. I was among the first persons in this forum to say it was immoral. However, it was not illegal so jail is out of the question.

any word on the PPP fund Opposition parliamentarians are supposed to be depositing their "increase" in?

hmmmmm?

redux posted:

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

And jail all dem AFC/PNC politicians liars who filled their bellies and bank account at the expense of the poor.

The salary increases are being enjoyed not only by AFC/PNC politicians but also by PPP parliamentarians. I was among the first persons in this forum to say it was immoral. However, it was not illegal so jail is out of the question.

any word on the PPP fund Opposition parliamentarians are supposed to be depositing their "increase" in?

hmmmmm?

Yes, it is called Pockets.

baseman posted:

caribny posted:

baseman posted:

On the top, bit of incompetence and managerial negligence!

Actual fraud, big leap!

 

Its interesting that you don't consider this corruption. 

I see that the brown bai KKK can find any excuse for criminal behavior, of the perp is an Indian!

Ethics violation, maybe, administrative "corruption".

Unless you can prove their choice was more costly or damaging to the people, them can you say it was corrupt or fraud!!

Now, i don't support family and friends getting priority, so whatever needs to be tightened up should be, to prevent in happening again!!

uh huh

spear carrier in the ill-gotten gains rat protection racket ah bray like livelihood depend pan he lil picket duty on GNI

no surprise, baseman comes well credentialed from the "Seignet" School of Selective Law Enforcement

u know, the one that encourages Indo-Guyanese to steal "even more than Jagdeo" . . . because it's existential!

yeah, dat wan

redux posted:

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

And jail all dem AFC/PNC politicians liars who filled their bellies and bank account at the expense of the poor.

The salary increases are being enjoyed not only by AFC/PNC politicians but also by PPP parliamentarians. I was among the first persons in this forum to say it was immoral. However, it was not illegal so jail is out of the question.

any word on the PPP fund Opposition parliamentarians are supposed to be depositing their "increase" in?

hmmmmm?

Sir, there are others in this forum who are in a perfect position to answer your question. By others, I don't mean yuji22 because he has absolutely no personal friends/comrades in Freedom House, so we have to exclude him. I wish you luck in getting a truthful and verifiable answer to your question, sir.

caribny posted:

baseman posted:

On the top, bit of incompetence and managerial negligence!

Actual fraud, big leap!

 

Its interesting that you don't consider this corruption. 

I see that the brown bai KKK can find any excuse for criminal behavior, of the perp is an Indian!

Carib: What you say or your reaction be if tomorrow morning you wake up and you see yourself transformed into a coolie? Would you consider grammazone or be shot?

Did Nehru use your handle, Skeldonman?

cain posted:

Did Nehru use your handle, Skeldonman?

Lol