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Clueless about Skeldon factory management contract - GAWU
Written by Demerara Waves
Saturday, 03 September 2011 19:24

Skeldon Sugar FactoryThe major union for thousands of sugar workers, the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU), says it was surprised by Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud’s recent revelation that a private contract is being sought for the management of the beleaguered Skeldon sugar factory.

At a news conference two Fridays ago the minster announced that GuySuCo was looking to engage either a Chinese or Indian company for the contract and urged the Corporation’s Board to move speedily on the matter.

However, in its release Saturday, GAWU claimed that it was “reliably informed” that the matter had not been brought before the Board at the time of the announcement.

“Through the grapevine, GAWU has learnt that the Minister’s statement could well be related to the company that was a main part of the factory’s construction and the other, the firm that was engaged in building the Enmore Packaging Plant. If so, other troubling questions would arise,” GAWU stated.

The companies in question are CNTIC which worked on the modernisation of the Skeldon factory and Surendra Engineering which was engaged for the US$12.5M packaging plant.

The union also took umbrage at the minister’s remark that they were going the route of private management because the needed expertise did not reside in the Corporation nor Guyana.

“GAWU is very much disappointed by the alleged remarks of the Minister implying that Guyanese are incapable of running the industry. It should be noted that local personnel are managing all the estates of the industry and the industry itself. Why is Skeldon factory now being isolated for possible outside management?”

According to the union, management may generally have their weaknesses, but it is unconvinced that the Skeldon factory failures are solely the consequence of poor management.

“We hope that the Minister has been wrongly quoted for it is impossible for any legitimate examination to lead to such a conclusion. GAWU hopes that facts are not manipulated nor are presented to justify the return of the industry into foreign hands.”

GAWU added that it believes that an “honest, objective and collective approach” by all the stakeholders must be a first step to address Skeldon’s woes.

The Alliance For Change (AFC) also come out in opposition at a recent news briefing to the contracting of either companies to run the Skeldon factory.

“These are people we understand who do not have any experience in management; one is good at infrastructure civil engineering, CNIC, and the other one is also a civil engineering firm so to go now to have management contracts to run sugar factories, I think they got plenty corruption behind these deals,” AFC Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan said.

He noted that the CNTIC has been blamed for many of the mechanical problems which beset the US$200M Skeldon factory.

‘The maker of this defect-riddled 8,400 tons cane-per-day grinding capacity factory, which has not yet achieved even half that amount for one day, is being evaluated as a potential contract manager,” Ramjattan declared.

According to him, Surendra Engineering appears to be “specially favoured” because it was awarded a contract for eight drainage pumps even though it does not make them. Additionally, he said, the firm through a Dubai-based front company received a consultancy contract valued some US$500,000 to provide the plan to upgrade the Enmore and Blairmont factories.

Ramjattan said his party is aware of very experienced and well known Indian and Brazilian consortiums which ought to be invited to give proposals to manage the Skeldon Factory and possibly to procure finances from their respective governments to assist in doing so.

However, the AFC believes that any move to privatise the factory’s management should be done after the general election and has signaled that it would not honour any contract signed with CNTIC or Surendra Engineering should it form the new government.

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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
GAWU should come out and support the AFC for this election. Only the AFC has a holistic policy set to save and grow the sugar industry.


I support such a call. GAWU must take leadership here and join with the AFC's policy positions in order to make for a viable sugar industry. This is guaranteed with an outright AFC victory at the coming elections
FM
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Originally posted by squingy:
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
GAWU should come out and support the AFC for this election. Only the AFC has a holistic policy set to save and grow the sugar industry.


I support such a call. GAWU must take leadership here and join with the AFC's policy positions in order to make for a viable sugar industry. This is guaranteed with an outright AFC victory at the coming elections


It will be a strong message to the PPP, that they are not for the average working person of Guyana.
Tola
Hold off until talks – GAWU warns
September 4, 2011 | By KNews | Filed Under News

Hiring of foreign managers for Skeldon factory…

The country’s main sugar union is calling for government to hold off on placing the US$200M Skeldon factory under foreign management until a full stakeholders’ consultation is held.
In a strongly worded statement, the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU) said that several critical questions should now be asked as to why the Skeldon factory, considered Guyana’s largest single capital project to date, has been singled out from the rest of sugar-making facilities, for foreign management.
GAWU’s stance on the foreign management issue would come a few weeks after Minister of Agriculture, Robert Persaud, announced that the board of the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) was considering Indian and Chinese proposals for the running of the factory.
The official had admitted that GuySuCo does not have the management expertise to run the Skeldon Sugar factory but was careful to note that the government has no intention of privatising sugar, as this was important both to the economic and social fabric of the country, with thousands of families depending on sugar for their livelihood.
Already, opposition parties, the Alliance For Change (AFC) and A Parnership For National Unity (APNU), have blasted the announcement.
According to GAWU, it has learnt that considerations could well be leaning towards the Chinese contractor, China National Technical Import and Export Corporation (CNTIC) and India-based Surendra Engineering which constructed the Enmore Sugar Packaging Plant.
“If so, other troubling questions would arise. As we await these answers, GAWU is very much disappointed by the alleged remarks of the Minister implying that Guyanese are incapable of running the industry. It should be noted that local personnel are managing all the estates of the industry and the industry itself. Why is Skeldon factory now being isolated for possible outside management?” the union asked in the release.


GAWU is calling on government to hold off on hiring foreign management for the Skeldon sugar factory.
GAWU pointed out that while GuySuCo’s management may have its weaknesses, the union is not convinced that the Skeldon’s factory failures are solely the consequence of poor management.
“Other critical factors are at the root of its misfortune. They are the factors that should be purposefully addressed. We hope that the Minister has been wrongly quoted, for it is impossible for any legitimate examination to lead to such a conclusion. GAWU hopes that facts are not manipulated nor are presented to justify the return of the industry into foreign hands.”
GAWU urged for an “honest, objective and collective approach” by all the stakeholders to be a first step to address the Skeldon factory “failure”.
“Incidentally GAWU wishes to observe that the workers and the union have not been made a scapegoat of the problematic factory, at least at this time. The Minister needs experience, advice and guidance.”
The factory has been dogged by a number of problems and GAWU has been agitating for the problems to be fixed so the factory could realize its potential. The corporation had set the end of next year to get the factory going at full speed.
Government has said that GuySuCo needs to produce 300,000 tonnes of sugar annually to be profitable and Skeldon is being looked at as the answer to under-production that has been squeezing the industry of its juice.
The under-production has been coupled with several industrial relations disputes that have been a major headache for the Corporation’s management.
Last month, GAWU’s President Komal Chand emphasised the union’s concern about the Skeldon Project, saying that factory and field production need to be ramped up. He said that field production should enable the estate to meet two-thirds of needed canes, with the remainder being provided by farmers.
The opening of the factory came just over a month before Guyana, and the rest of the nations of the African, Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) Group of countries, began losing preferential market access for sugar to Europe. The industry is also reeling from the reduced price Europe began taking for its sugar in 2006. At the start of 2010, the price cut went to the full 36 percent Europe imposed.
The sugar industry directly sustains some 18,000 jobs, and when that is multiplied to include their families, it means sugar supports one-fifth of the country’s entire population. Sugar exports account for as much as 20 percent of the country’s annual revenue.
The Corporation was targeting the end of this year to complete all land development and planting, and expects to have in this period the 1.2 million tonnes of cane required by the new factory. Estate cultivation of sugar cane will have to grow to 9,600 hectares.
The factory was constructed with a combination of self-generated funds and loans from the Caribbean Development Bank, the People’s Republic of China and the Government of Guyana. The Project Engineer was Booker Tate, UK Ltd and the Contractor was CNTIC Ltd.
FM
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Originally posted by squingy:
Clueless about Skeldon factory management contract - GAWU
Written by Demerara Waves
Saturday, 03 September 2011 19:24

Skeldon Sugar FactoryThe major union for thousands of sugar workers, the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU), says it was surprised by Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud’s recent revelation that a private contract is being sought for the management of the beleaguered Skeldon sugar factory.

At a news conference two Fridays ago the minster announced that GuySuCo was looking to engage either a Chinese or Indian company for the contract and urged the Corporation’s Board to move speedily on the matter.

However, in its release Saturday, GAWU claimed that it was “reliably informed” that the matter had not been brought before the Board at the time of the announcement.

“Through the grapevine, GAWU has learnt that the Minister’s statement could well be related to the company that was a main part of the factory’s construction and the other, the firm that was engaged in building the Enmore Packaging Plant. If so, other troubling questions would arise,” GAWU stated.

The companies in question are CNTIC which worked on the modernisation of the Skeldon factory and Surendra Engineering which was engaged for the US$12.5M packaging plant.

The union also took umbrage at the minister’s remark that they were going the route of private management because the needed expertise did not reside in the Corporation nor Guyana.

“GAWU is very much disappointed by the alleged remarks of the Minister implying that Guyanese are incapable of running the industry. It should be noted that local personnel are managing all the estates of the industry and the industry itself. Why is Skeldon factory now being isolated for possible outside management?”

According to the union, management may generally have their weaknesses, but it is unconvinced that the Skeldon factory failures are solely the consequence of poor management.

“We hope that the Minister has been wrongly quoted for it is impossible for any legitimate examination to lead to such a conclusion. GAWU hopes that facts are not manipulated nor are presented to justify the return of the industry into foreign hands.”

GAWU added that it believes that an “honest, objective and collective approach” by all the stakeholders must be a first step to address Skeldon’s woes.

The Alliance For Change (AFC) also come out in opposition at a recent news briefing to the contracting of either companies to run the Skeldon factory.

“These are people we understand who do not have any experience in management; one is good at infrastructure civil engineering, CNIC, and the other one is also a civil engineering firm so to go now to have management contracts to run sugar factories, I think they got plenty corruption behind these deals,” AFC Chairman Khemraj Ramjattan said.

He noted that the CNTIC has been blamed for many of the mechanical problems which beset the US$200M Skeldon factory.

‘The maker of this defect-riddled 8,400 tons cane-per-day grinding capacity factory, which has not yet achieved even half that amount for one day, is being evaluated as a potential contract manager,” Ramjattan declared.

According to him, Surendra Engineering appears to be “specially favoured” because it was awarded a contract for eight drainage pumps even though it does not make them. Additionally, he said, the firm through a Dubai-based front company received a consultancy contract valued some US$500,000 to provide the plan to upgrade the Enmore and Blairmont factories.

Ramjattan said his party is aware of very experienced and well known Indian and Brazilian consortiums which ought to be invited to give proposals to manage the Skeldon Factory and possibly to procure finances from their respective governments to assist in doing so.

However, the AFC believes that any move to privatise the factory’s management should be done after the general election and has signaled that it would not honour any contract signed with CNTIC or Surendra Engineering should it form the new government.


Yep, Yep. Working class movement think together. GAWU does not know it get, but it will work with the next AFC Government in making a better life for sugar workers. Long live THE AFC.
FM
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
GAWU should come out and support the AFC for this election. Only the AFC has a holistic policy set to save and grow the sugar industry.


yes this will be a test to see if the AFC is really making inroads into the PPP. Or are they just disgruntled PPPites like druggie, Wally,and Horsie who will whine about the PPP but then end up voting for them as they feel its their own little Old Indo Boys Cluib which they dont feel comfortable leaving.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
GAWU should come out and support the AFC for this election. Only the AFC has a holistic policy set to save and grow the sugar industry.


yes this will be a test to see if the AFC is really making inroads into the PPP. Or are they just disgruntled PPPites like druggie, Wally,and Horsie who will whine about the PPP but then end up voting for them as they feel its their own little Old Indo Boys Cluib which they dont feel comfortable leaving.


And what about your OLd Blackman Boys Club? Big Grin bath wavey
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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And what about your OLd Blackman Boys Club? Big Grin bath wavey


Dont worry about that. Worry that Ramjattan might lose some of Trotman's votes but will do any moderately better from his former PPP base. Given how abysmal his support was last time, and please dont deny it was as even Trotman pointed that fact out, this doesnt say much.

You know some who voted AFC last time did so only because they didnt like Corbin.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj: Worry that Ramjattan might lose some of Trotman's votes but will do any moderately better from his former PPP base. Given how abysmal his support was last time, and please dont deny it was as even Trotman pointed that fact out, this doesnt say much
Please see: http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/81220033051 for pics of Raphael on the campaign trail. Please see also: http://www.voteafc.com/index.p...1&catid=37&Itemid=55
FM
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj: Worry that Ramjattan might lose some of Trotman's votes but will do any moderately better from his former PPP base. Given how abysmal his support was last time, and please dont deny it was as even Trotman pointed that fact out, this doesnt say much
Please see: http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/81220033051 for pics of Raphael on the campaign trail. Please see also: http://www.voteafc.com/index.p...1&catid=37&Itemid=55


GR Trotman can campaign all he wants. Guyanese know that when the AFC loses Trotman will bow out having been a "team player" and not a spoil sport by refusing to support the AFC because it selected Ramjattan and not him as he wanted. He will no longer be a major AFC leader.

Holder will become a token just like Sam Hinds. It does appear as if the AFC has developed an Indian face. This is what some people in Guyana are saying. You can ignore this perception all you want but it will cost you votes.

Remember that much of your 2006 support is quite soft, much of it being a rejection of Corbin. Well he isnt running this time and some middle class folks seem to be happy with Granger even though they say he is running a lousy campaign and, as such, will lose.

By the way do you guys EVER campaign in the streets of South Gtwn which contains many voters and where turnout last time was abysmal. Maybe not as too many minibus drivers live there. Not Holder's favorite people due to where they live (nowhere) and the illicit substances that she said they supposedly consume. Pity because this group will either not vote or vote Granger because she displayed her bourgeois (red woman) snobbery.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj: Worry that Ramjattan might lose some of Trotman's votes but will do any moderately better from his former PPP base. Given how abysmal his support was last time, and please dont deny it was as even Trotman pointed that fact out, this doesnt say much
Please see: http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...604972/m/81220033051 for pics of Raphael on the campaign trail. Please see also: http://www.voteafc.com/index.p...1&catid=37&Itemid=55


GR Trotman can campaign all he wants. Guyanese know that when the AFC loses Trotman will bow out having been a "team player" and not a spoil sport by refusing to support the AFC because it selected Ramjattan and not him as he wanted. He will no longer be a major AFC leader.

Holder will become a token just like Sam Hinds. It does appear as if the AFC has developed an Indian face. This is what some people in Guyana are saying. You can ignore this perception all you want but it will cost you votes.

Remember that much of your 2006 support is quite soft, much of it being a rejection of Corbin. Well he isnt running this time and some middle class folks seem to be happy with Granger even though they say he is running a lousy campaign and, as such, will lose.

By the way do you guys EVER campaign in the streets of South Gtwn which contains many voters and where turnout last time was abysmal. Maybe not as too many minibus drivers live there. Not Holder's favorite people due to where they live (nowhere) and the illicit substances that she said they supposedly consume. Pity because this group will either not vote or vote Granger because she displayed her bourgeois (red woman) snobbery.


Ohh Caribj, it's only a matter of time before you cough it out, the name Ramjattan is not optimal for you, time to "come home"...eh. Sorry, you out of touch.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
GAWU should come out and support the AFC for this election. Only the AFC has a holistic policy set to save and grow the sugar industry.


Yes indeed they should, the AFc will succeed when all other Caribbean nations failed. True to form, they can conquer all economic challenges and promise all things to all people while lowering taxes and pumping billions of dollars into security, education and every other sector. The people will not be fooled by these smoke and mirrors frauds. hahahahhahah
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
GAWU should come out and support the AFC for this election. Only the AFC has a holistic policy set to save and grow the sugar industry.


Yes indeed they should, the AFc will succeed when all other Caribbean nations failed. True to form, they can conquer all economic challenges and promise all things to all people while lowering taxes and pumping billions of dollars into security, education and every other sector. The people will not be fooled by these smoke and mirrors frauds. hahahahhahah


Like now, sometimes true statements are said in a jokeful manner. Wink
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:
Ohh Caribj, it's only a matter of time before you cough it out, the name Ramjattan is not optimal for you, time to "come home"...eh. Sorry, you out of touch.



What ever baseman. I heard a roaring sound. It was anti Corbin voters rushing away from the AFC, deciding either not to vote or to support Granger. Holder is another Sam Hinds. We have already seen what this means.

Why no Trotman after the election is over?

It is very evident to me that the AFC is taking the votes that it got in 2006 for granted.
FM

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