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There is a sea saw battle going on with the PPP 's lead. It is now at 18,175.
@Ramakant-P posted:There is a sea saw battle going on with the PPP 's lead. It is now at 18,175.
I have a hunch that lead will diminish further if not overtaken.
@Mitwah posted:I have a hunch that lead will diminish further if not overtaken.
I have the same feelings and it's very scary for me. Also I wouldn't like to see all the money they spent in jump starting the economy go to waste. They would need ten more years to get to a booming economy if they are serious and if they don't dip their hands in the till and if the PPP doesn't become disruptive. Like wise if the PPP wins I would like to see them govern for ten years to achieve the results they dreamed of.
Let there be peace. Let freedom reign.
With just about 80% of ballot boxes tabulated the Peopleâs Progressive Party/Civic leads the APNU+AFC Coalition by more than 18,000 votes at the General Elections.
According to the tabulation figures published by the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) at the end of day 28 a total of 1,869 General Statements of Recount (SORs) and 1,858 Regional SORs have been recorded including the complete count for Districts One, Two, Three, Five, Seven, Eight and Nine.
These SORs show a total of 162,557 votes for the incumbent APNU+AFC compared to 180,732 votes for the PPP/C. The six other parties which contested the General Elections have so far secured a combined total of 7,073 of the votes cast.
Can the PPP maintain this lead with about 20% of the ballot boxes to be tabulated? Perhaps it will be a close finish.
What was the reason given for not completing the HTH registration, so the voter's list can be updated. It looks like GECOM is finding frauds with the voting process.
@Tola posted:What was the reason given for not completing the HTH registration, so the voter's list can be updated. It looks like GECOM is finding frauds with the voting process.
You may want to check this out. https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/w...n-beside-buying-time
You can also google H2H and HTH.
Finding anomalies is good. But in the scheme of things how material are number of votes when it would be approximately 6K to 7K to earn 1 seat?
UNbelievable:
The PPP is still in the lead with only 13,050 votes.
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Nagamootooâs figures came from the ghost ship
Jun 04, 2020 Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon 0 Comments
There is only one personality in the movie âGhost Shipâ that overshadows the presence of Moses Nagamootoo with some papers in his hand. That personality is the amazing Italian beauty, Francesca Rettondini singing the evergreen Italian ballad, âSenza Fine.â
The hundreds of people dancing to âSenza Fineâ on the cruise liner while Nagamootoo goes through his papers are dead people, what we call in Guyana, âjumbies.â It was these ghosts on the ship that handed Nagamootoo the 2020 election results that he wrote in the Chronicle of March 8; ââĶin the 2020 elections 473,352 persons voted, as against 412,012 in 2015. From those numbers, the APNU+AFC polled 237,004 votes and the PPP/C 229,344, which gives the former a narrow lead of 7,660 votes. Again, it was a narrow margin as in 2015. And when computed, the unofficial projection is that the Coalition would again have a one-seat majority in the National Assemblyâ
As we near the end of the recount, with 20 percent of boxes left to tally, at the time of writing the PPP is leading by just over 18, 000 votes. The recount so far gives the APNU+AFC 162, 557. If you take Nagamootooâs numbers, it means that the APNU+AFC will receive about 75, 000 votes more. But when you look at where the boxes are left to be counted, 75, 000 is an impossible achievement.
In Region 6, a PPP stronghold, there are 30 boxes to be opened. Surely that lead of 18, 000 is going to increase with a voting population of 64, 000. There are 25 boxes to check for Region 10 of which the APNU+AFC will collect a majority but that district has a voting number of 22, 000. In Region 4, there are (at time of writing yesterday) 364 boxes many of which are in PPP areas. So it leaves the question to be asked â with votes coming in for the PPP in Region 6 and Region 4, could the APNU+AFC acquire 75, 000 votes? Nagamooto has to answer that.
An intriguing part of the results of the recount numbers so far is the vote catch for the small parties. Let us look at Nagamootooâs numbers in the Chronicle and in that compartment, you will see that the AFC did not bring anything to the PNCâs table. Cathy Hughesâs words at the AFCâs November 2019 press conference are haunting the PNC. Mrs. Hughes said the PNC never won an election on its own. The PNC went with a dead coalition partner and thus was on its own and thus lost the 2020 battle.
Here are the votes the small parties got according to Nagamooto. ANUG-2,288; Change Guyana-2,024; Liberty and Justice Party 2,263; Peopleâs Republican Party -858; The Citizen Initiative-679; The New Movement-230; United Republican Party-394. The total is 8,754. The preachers of the fake ballots from the cemeteries and migrants need to ask Nagamootoo how those small parties were able to collect almost 9,000 votes.
Now that Mingoâs rotten mangoes were discovered in the recount, Nagamootooâs ghost friends did a number on him. With a lead of 18, 000 so far by the PPP plus 7000 for the small parties from the recount so far, it is analytically simple to explain why the APNU+AFC lost.
Three factors are at work that explains the 2020 election result. First, those third party votes were the ballots that persons withdrew from the AFC in 2020 that they gave the AFC in 2011 and 2015. Secondly, the current lead by the PPP includes the votes that went to the AFC in 2011 and 2015. I repeat for the umpteenth time â the PNC could not have pulled it off because the PNC entered the election as essentially the PNC. Its coalition partner, AFC, had gone deep into the ground in the Le Repentir Cemetery.
Thirdly, mixed race citizens, Amerindians and undecided voters showed bitter annoyance at the APNU+AFC and decided to punish them. If you look at the APNU+AFC campaign six weeks before polling day, there was immense emphasis on Amerindian areas. Even the First Lady was drafted into the campaign because she appears to be partly Amerindian. That failed for the PNC because even though she is a fine, decent woman, the First Lady had no political experience whatsoever so her presence in Amerindian village were more formalistic than politically oriented. It did not translate into magic.
Finally, for the PNC to have won, the turnout had to be in the late seventies and early eighties. Nagamootoo in his Chronicle thing put it at 71 percent. That is extremely disappointing for a party that wrested power from the PPP and was the incumbent that was promising so much.
(The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of this newspaper.)
@Nehru: I think the man was dancing kali mai when his spirits gave him those numbers. AFC and PNC BOTH need to be entombed with an epitaph: WE FAILED Guyana.
@Django posted:
So Django Bhai, you still think PNC will overwhelm the PPP in region 4 and overcome their deficit? Ting nah look good fuh dem.
@Ramakant-P posted:UNbelievable:
The PPP is still in the lead with only 13,050 votes.
This is not looking good for the PPP.
@Former Member posted:So Django Bhai, you still think PNC will overwhelm the PPP in region 4 and overcome their deficit? Ting nah look good fuh dem.
Skelly that's a possibility. Region 4 has historically been PNC. 13K is not a safe lead.
Mits, you know 84% counted and the remaining Boxes are from PPP areas?
@Nehru posted:Mits, you know 84% counted and the remaining Boxes are from PPP areas?
You %'age is probably right. I don't know about the remaining boxes are from the PPP areas. What if the lead is reduced by 10,000 votes?
Then PPP win by 3000 votes
@Nehru posted:Then PPP win by 3000 votes
With the smaller parties having over 7K votes, they might be entitled for 1 or more seats. With a 3000 lead what kind of majority Government can the PPP form? Same for the coalition if they secure a small majority.
Anil was the one who said if there is "ONE FRAUD" found, the elections will be considered not credible.
@Mitwah posted:This is not looking good for the PPP.
I know!
The mushroom parties will a total of 10,000 votes. That will translate into 1 seat that either PPP or PNC will need, but the Party with the largest fraction will get the 1 seat. That party can hold the balance of power and negotiate a deal for themselves.
LJP seems to have the highest votes among the Mushroom boys.
Ramaji, I like your word "mushroom".
@Mitwah posted:Ramaji, I like your word "mushroom".
Thanks!
@Former Member posted:So Django Bhai, you still think PNC will overwhelm the PPP in region 4 and overcome their deficit? Ting nah look good fuh dem.
Region 4 always PNC stronghold, something happened in 2015 and 2020 and is not good. That's from an analytical mind looking at the data from 2011.
In 2015 and 2020 people are more focused on the issues. The upgraded technology for the elections will show more support for the PPPC.
@Django posted:Region 4 always PNC stronghold, something happened in 2015 and 2020 and is not good.
To be precise Georgetown has traditionally been a PNC stronghold, as Agricola and Mocha in EBD, plus BV, Buxton, Plaisance, Victoria, Cane Grove and Melanie Damishana in ECD. The vast East Coast and East Bank corridors comprise mainly PPP/C supporters. Altogether Region 4 has been a battleground place in free and fair elections.
@Former Member posted:In 2015 and 2020 people are more focused on the issues. The upgraded technology for the elections will show more support for the PPPC.
That's not quite true.
Django ---
2015 -- Steve Surujbally
2020 -- Mingo
@Former Member posted:Django ---
2015 -- Steve Surujbally
2020 -- Mingo
OK. That's the upgraded technology you are talking about. How about Gocool?
@Former Member posted:Django ---
2015 -- Steve Surujbally
2020 -- Mingo
The PPP good at using Burnham ancient technology for votes, Region 4
2006 = 62,386, 2011 = 60,851 ,2015=70,203, 2020 = 80,887 (Claimed)
@Former Member posted:Django ---
2015 -- Steve Surujbally
2020 -- Mingo
@Django posted:The PPP good at using Burnham ancient technology for votes, Region 4 : 2011 =60,851 ,2015=70,203, 2020 = 80,887 (Claimed)
Django --- new/improved technology in 2015 and 2020.
2011 --- old = passÃĐ.
@Former Member posted:Django --- new/improved technology in 2015 and 2020.
2011 --- old = passÃĐ.
The theory is beat your opponents , using their past accused tricks in their backyard. Use lots of photo ops with Afro-Guyanese to cover up ,anyone remember that campaign.
@Former Member posted:To be precise Georgetown has traditionally been a PNC stronghold, as Agricola and Mocha in EBD, plus BV, Buxton, Plaisance, Victoria, Cane Grove and Melanie Damishana in ECD. The vast East Coast and East Bank corridors comprise mainly PPP/C supporters. Altogether Region 4 has been a battleground place in free and fair elections.
Cane Grove is most certainly not a PNC stronghold. You probably meant Golden Grove. The rest of your post is also factually incorrect. Just look at the numbers from past elections.
Django ...
Focus is to win by fair and transparent means.
@Former Member posted:Django ...
Focus is to win by fair and transparent means.
That's true ,one of the pea of the same pod ,outsmarts the other who was sleeping.
@Totaram posted:Cane Grove is most certainly not a PNC stronghold. You probably meant Golden Grove.
I meant Golden Grove. Thanks.
@Django posted:That's true ,one of the pea of the same pod ,outsmarts the other who was sleeping.
In situations like these, one does not sleep but must always be focused.
You sleep <==> you loose.
@Former Member posted:In situations like these, one does not sleep but must always be focused.
You sleep <==> you loose.
the expression is: You snooze <==> you lose