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Declaration of PPP/C majority was on the verge of being made until error pointed out –GECOM source
Posted By Stabroek staff On January 5, 2012 @ 5:13 am In Local |

A source on the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) has confirmed that there was originally to be a declaration that the elections was won by the PPP/C with a majority in Parliament but this was scuppered after it was pointed out that there had been a miscalculation in the allocation of seats.

This charge first surfaced at an A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) press conference about two weeks ago. Had such a declaration been made there could have been serious difficulties in reversing it. In the 2006 election even though there was a recognition within GECOM that an error had been made in terms of the assigning of a Region 10 seat to the PPP/C instead of the AFC, the latter was left to challenge the matter in court as GECOM said the original declaration of results could not be modified. The challenge was later struck out on procedural grounds.

Speaking with Stabroek News yesterday, a commission source said that “it was in fact one of the Opposition commissioners who raised an objection,” and that “it was obvious” that something was not right with the results.

Pressed for a response on the accusation from APNU, a source close to the CEO of GECOM said that the calculation of seat allocation which was presented based on the number of votes garnered by the parties was found to be erroneous. “The error was observed upon checks of the CEO’s submission being perused by commissioners to which the calculations were submitted for ratification,” the source said.

The source said too that the error was shared with the CEO and every member of the Commission “and was accepted unanimously as an error.”

According to the source, the seat allocation was subsequently adjusted accordingly, “thereafter the Commissioners gave approval to the CEO to make the official declaration.” The final announcement of the results of the elections came on the afternoon of December 1, 2011.

Delay
Meanwhile, a Commissioner with whom this newspaper spoke hit out at critics of GECOM who felt the results took an inordinately long time to be announced. He said that the media should have been more proactive in obtaining the results which he said would have been posted outside of the polling stations.

He said too that legally the declaration of results is done regionally by each Returning Officer for each of the ten electoral districts. The Commissioner said that if there is a challenge to be made to the elections this challenge is not made centrally. “It is the ten declarations that provide the results. The declaration for the National Assembly is what the Chief Election Officer does,” said the Commissioner with whom this newspaper spoke.

He said that the CEO makes his declaration on the basis of the declarations of the ten Returning Officers. “The CEO must wait on the ten Returning Officers. The CEO can do nothing until all ten regions or electoral districts,” the Commissioner told the Stabroek News yesterday.

Regarding the delays in the announcement of the results of the November 28, 2011 national and regional elections, he said that the Region 4 results came in until midday on November 29, 2011.

Further, Stabroek News has learnt that the final declaration of the November 28 national and regional elections has not yet been gazetted because of the yet to be submitted list of candidates for all the parties. This is according to Vishnu Persaud, the Public Relations Officer at the GECOM. The reason for the delay is the tussle for the position of Speaker of the National Assembly among the three parties entering the Tenth Parliament. The choice for Speaker is bound to affect the shape of the list of MPs to be submitted by A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and the Alliance For Change. APNU wants either Deborah Backer or PNCR Chairman Cammie Ramsaroop as Speaker; the PPP/C is proposing former Speaker Ralph Ramkarran while the AFC is proposing Moses Nagamootoo for the post.

Persaud said that all of the parties still have to indicate in writing who will be appointed as councilors on the RDCs and that these persons have to be drawn from the list submitted by each party contesting the elections.

This newspaper was informed that there has been no further word on a date for the meeting of the parties to discuss the issue of the Speaker for the Tenth Parliament.

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There was no fraud. Although the PPP got 48.6 % of the votes, they still won 33 seats instead of 32.. The opposition bullied GECOM for the extra seat.

The PPP won the Government and the presidency.
FM
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Originally posted by Mad Max:
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Had such a declaration been made there could have been serious difficulties in reversing it


Was it made?

It was not . . . the opposition stopped it.
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by Mad Max:
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Had such a declaration been made there could have been serious difficulties in reversing it


Was it made?

It was not . . . the opposition stopped it.


The opposition cannot stop something that never happened.. Come on, be realistic. You are anti-PPP so you will never speak truth about anything.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
There was no fraud.

That's right . . . opposition protest stopped it!

If Surujbally, Boodhoo & Co had their way, the PPP would have had a majority instead of a plurality.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by Mad Max:
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Had such a declaration been made there could have been serious difficulties in reversing it


Was it made?

It was not . . . the opposition stopped it.


The opposition cannot stop something that never happened.. Come on, be realistic. You are anti-PPP so you will never speak truth about anything.

look up the term "incipient" you moron.
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by Mad Max:
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Had such a declaration been made there could have been serious difficulties in reversing it


Was it made?

It was not . . . the opposition stopped it.


The opposition cannot stop something that never happened.. Come on, be realistic. You are anti-PPP so you will never speak truth about anything.

look up the term "incipient" you moron.


It doesn't change anything. You are a very untruthful person. What I am is not important. What you have become is obvious...
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The opposition cannot stop something that never happened.

RamaKant, reflect on the absurdity of the above statement . . . u CANNOT be that stupid!!
FM
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Originally posted by redux:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The opposition cannot stop something that never happened.

RamaKant, reflect on the absurdity of the above statement . . . u CANNOT be that stupid!!


Gecom never gave the PPP a Majority. It never happened. Gocool said so and that is good enough for me.
Why did you support the PNC when they rigged the Elections from 1968 to 1985? Let's talk about how biased you are. Are you a racist?
FM
PPP teefs and bandits.

Wanted to cheat the people. They will do anything to retain power.

All hell would have broke loose, it wasn't until they heard the police/GDF wasn't in their corner that they reversed the count and claimed a minority gov't. Folks would have burned the city down, with every reason to do so. Big Grin
FM
The Chief Election Officer could not make a public announcement if it is not approved by the Elections Commission. The tabulation goes to the Commission and it is checked for errors by all the members.
FM
Good LESSON for Ivy League Graduates.
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Originally posted by Daren David:
The Chief Election Officer could not make a public announcement if it is not approved by the Elections Commission. The tabulation goes to the Commission and it is checked for errors by all the members.
Nehru
AFC could ask for Chief Election Officer to Go
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol
DemeraraWaves.com, Friday, 06 January 2012

In the wake of evidence that the Alliance For Change (AFC) could have lost one seat and that the Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) would have clinched a one-seat majority, pressure could mount on the Chief Election Officer Gocool Boodoo to resign.
AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan, noting that the AFC had lost one seat in the 2006 general and regional elections, said if Boodoo appears to be repeatedly making mistakes, he would have to leave the job.

“It would appear that the Chief Election Officer is wont to making errors and mashing up the AFC,” he told Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com). “I would want to see the report to see these kind of mistakes and we could very well ask for his removal."

While Boodoo has denied that a discrepancy had been uncovered by Commissioner Vincent Alexander and corrected, GECOM insiders have separately confirmed otherwise. They note that the first calculation had given the PPPC 33 seats with 48.57 percent of the votes cast. In that count, the AFC had gotten six seats and A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) 26 seats. Demwaves.com has been told that the Chief Election Officer’s calculation had excluded the 25 constituency seats and only taken the 40 seats into consideration.

After Alexander had requested the formula and the calculation was done, the AFC ended up with one seat more and the PPPC with 32 and the APNU with 26.

Ramjattan emphasized that he did not want to accuse anyone of maliciously attempting to cheat his party. “There again it would appear they wanted to snitch from us. I don’t know whether it was malicious I don’t want to output any malicious motive at this stage,” he said.

The error had been discovered even as Boodoo and the Chairman of the Elections Commission, Dr. Steve Surujbally were eager to go across to the Pegasus Hotel to declare the final results. If that had been done, the accuracy could have been challenged only by an elections petition that could have taken five years.

Though the AFC appeared in favour of Boodoo resigning, Ramjattan said he was in favour of political parties nominating persons to be commissioners. "Guyana is so polarised and there are not very many independent minds and those who are independent are generally so cowardly and they back away," he said.Ramjattan argued that while some people might be perceived as independent, the "politicos will have a greater stake."

The Commonwealth Observer Mission, in its report on the November 28 general and regional elections, has recommended that strong consideration should be given to ending the practice of having political appointees as members of the Elections Commission. "Such a formula compromises the effectiveness and integrity of the Commission, which needs to be independent and above politics at all levels,” according to the organisation.

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