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Elections likely by January 2015

President Donald Ramotar

President Donald Ramotar

… if APNU supports AFC’s no-confidence motion

By Michael Younge

General elections are likely to be held in Guyana by January 2015 if the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) supports the no-confidence motion by the Alliance For Change (AFC).

The 26-seat Opposition coalition group, APNU has thrown its full support behind a motion of no-confidence to be tabled in the National Assembly by the AFC against the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Government led by President Donald Ramotar.

Dr Rupert Roopnaraine

Dr Rupert Roopnaraine

The APNU took the decision after its Members of Parliament who formed a Shadow Cabinet met on Tuesday afternoon at the Leader of the Opposition’s Office on Hadfield Street, Georgetown to deliberate on the draft AFC motion.

APNU’s Co-Chairman, Dr Rupert Roopnaraine, speaking with the Guyana Times, confirmed that the decision was unanimous and that no dissenting views were expressed during the Shadow Cabinet meeting about the course of action that the party should adopt in response to the motion.

“Well, we didn’t see a full draft, but what we saw was a resolve clause… we did not see any “where as” clauses and…That is what we are going to support when it comes to the House which we anticipate will be at a very early sitting in October,” Roopnaraine advised.

He said “it is very unlikely” that the motion could be debated before the National Assembly goes into recess on August 10 this year. Additionally, he said the party believes that the decision to support the motion was the right step at the correct time given the feeling and mood of the population. He also explained that the APNU has piloted a menu of other actions to demonstrate its lack of confidence in the PPP/C Administration.

He pointed to the party’s move to have the Finance Minister, Dr Ashni Singh sent to the parliamentary Committee of Privileges for his alleged violation of the decisions of the Parliament. Reference was also made to APNU’s intention to go to the courts for a declaration on the constitutionality of the financial paper.

In-depth discussions

“We went to discuss other things which would have to do with getting yourself in a state of readiness for the elections, which would be the consequence of a no-confidence vote,” Dr Roopnaraine admitted.

He said APNU’s decision was taken to send another strong message to the ruling administration about its conduct and handling of several national and constitutional issues. “I think it is important that if we were to move a no-confidence motion against the Government, that we move it, because we do not have any confidence in the Government and that should be part of the parliamentary record.”

Roopnaraine’s comments have now removed the uncertainty over the posture of the APNU and the conflicting messages sent by its top brass about potential support for the motion. Opposition Leader David Granger had told media operatives that the matter was “serious” and warranted in-depth discussions before a decision was taken on the way forward. Granger reportedly made reference to the 10th Parliament fulfilling its five-year mandate during APNU’s third anniversary, but clarified that this was never an endorsement of the PPP’s hope of completing a full term in office.

The issue is put to rest, and it was widely speculated and expected that the APNU, which has been working closely with the AFC since 2011, would have adopted this posture giving the impact non-support would have had on its record and image. Additionally, the party’s main partner, the Working People’s Alliance (WPA) had already indicated interest in bringing the Government to its knees via constitutional mechanisms and must have sounded its voice on the matter during discussions.

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Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:

I heard Rob-earth Parasad the Mining man getting dumped and Piya the Maniac-chand is getting moved.

Dissolve Parliament now before they go on recess. Then call the election NOW if you know that you will win. Then if you win you will get the Money Laundering Bill passed before it comes up for review. Why wait until January 2015.  

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Just when I was cussing up APNU for their inaction, now the Corrupt PPP/C will be sweating.

PNC in chaos.  AFC remains tiny.  Whats the point of the election.

 

1.  Its hardly likely that any party will get the majority of the votes.

 

2  APNU hasnt done a thing to move beyond its normal support base, nor have they mounted a campaign to get those who might support them to gte registered.

 

3.  The AFC live in the land of the fantasy, always fooling itself that the wide spread malaise amongst most Guyanese translates into support for them.

 

4.  Guyana ae sick of politics and so the turn out will be embrassingly low.  The question will be which party has the most motivated voters, and which party has the resources to get their support base ot.  We know the PPP has the resources, as they act based on "party paramountcy" so will steal taxpayers' money.  What we dont know is which party (between the PPP and APNU) have the most motivated voters.

 

I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air and the PPP is rubbing its hands with glee as clearly they can continue to avoid the LGE.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air and the PPP is rubbing its hands with glee as clearly they can continue to avoid the LGE.


* Very good post carib bai.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
3.  The AFC live in the land of the fantasy, always fooling itself that the wide spread malaise amongst most Guyanese translates into support for them.

Their usual focus and mode of operation.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air and the PPP is rubbing its hands with glee as clearly they can continue to avoid the LGE.


* Very good post carib bai.

 

Rev

 

Rev

 

Carib has been giving a fair analysis since he knows that the AFC and PNC are not ready for elections. The AFC and PNC wants to take on the PPP when in fact the AFC and PNC are at their weakest.

 

PPP will win a majority at any future election. Minimum 51 percent according the the internal international polling. I put the PPP at 52 percent majority.

 

Boots on the Ground Kick the AFC/PNC Down.

 

A vote for AFC = A vote for PNC

AFC = PNC

PNC = Riggers

 

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by asj:

Just when I was cussing up APNU for their inaction, now the Corrupt PPP/C will be sweating.

PNC in chaos.  AFC remains tiny.  Whats the point of the election.

 

1.  Its hardly likely that any party will get the majority of the votes.

 

2  APNU hasnt done a thing to move beyond its normal support base, nor have they mounted a campaign to get those who might support them to gte registered.

 

3.  The AFC live in the land of the fantasy, always fooling itself that the wide spread malaise amongst most Guyanese translates into support for them.

 

4.  Guyana ae sick of politics and so the turn out will be embrassingly low.  The question will be which party has the most motivated voters, and which party has the resources to get their support base ot.  We know the PPP has the resources, as they act based on "party paramountcy" so will steal taxpayers' money.  What we dont know is which party (between the PPP and APNU) have the most motivated voters.

 

I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air and the PPP is rubbing its hands with glee as clearly they can continue to avoid the LGE.

You are morbidly pessimistic. This is a good thing. It truncates romatar's vacuous run. His tenure is merely threading water and facilitating his cabinet to enrich themselves.

 

The PNC people are going no where. They most certainly see themselves as enemies of the PPP. Cumulative insults will never cause t hem to depart in great numbers to the PPP. Few will defect to the AFC but the PPP gains nothing.

 

Indeed Granger's tenure as leader of the APNU has no glitter, is uninspiring and definitely stale as last years donuts but it is not the PPP and that is enough. I also doubt he has the capacity to increase his charisma or elaborate any seminal change but again; not PPP is enough.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
3.  The AFC live in the land of the fantasy, always fooling itself that the wide spread malaise amongst most Guyanese translates into support for them.

Their usual focus and mode of operation.

 

AFC posters here are a reflection of the AFC mindset and leadership.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Just when I was cussing up APNU for their inaction, now the Corrupt PPP/C will be sweating.

Just me, you will still be cussing up long after the PPP is gone. This is not a done deal and your nightmare is not yet over. This is just a friendly reminder.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air ....

Most likely ... simply a gimmick

It could be a gimmick and it could be for real. There are risks and consequences that may follow this bold move by the oppositions. This was expected since the balance of power tip the scale in parliament. However, the PPP said from day one that they're ready for elections and that's what matters. It may be a blessing in disguised. 

FM
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Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air ....

Most likely ... simply a gimmick

It could be a gimmick and it could be for real. There are risks and consequences that may follow this bold move by the oppositions. This was expected since the balance of power tip the scale in parliament. However, the PPP said from day one that they're ready for elections and that's what matters. It may be a blessing in disguised. 

What else you want the PPP to say. We are not ready and we might lose the election.

Tola
Originally Posted by Tola:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air ....

Most likely ... simply a gimmick

It could be a gimmick and it could be for real. There are risks and consequences that may follow this bold move by the oppositions. This was expected since the balance of power tip the scale in parliament. However, the PPP said from day one that they're ready for elections and that's what matters. It may be a blessing in disguised. 

What else you want the PPP to say. We are not ready and we might lose the election.

The word might is a 50/50 chance of winning or losing. I made that known to Mitwah yesterday. 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
3.  The AFC live in the land of the fantasy, always fooling itself that the wide spread malaise amongst most Guyanese translates into support for them.

Their usual focus and mode of operation.

 

AFC posters here are a reflection of the AFC mindset and leadership.

the AFC have the ppp shiting themself,you guys will need to charter more planes

FM

I would say that from the last election to now, I simply cannot see any gains made by the PPP/C, as a matter of fact I would venture to say that because of the rampant corruptions, migrations of PPP/C supporters, the PPP/C have suppressed their supporters and many are pissed off with them, and most will not got out voting.

I disagree when Caribj says that the PNC are in chaos, it might look that way, but then kith and kin has a lot to do, and so the PNC might very well add to their votes since the last Elections, percentage wise I would say about 6 to 8 percent.

I see the AFC doing far better than the last elections and might surprise the Corrupt PPP/C with a further increase of 10 percent.

 

Do the maths, and I think that the PPP/C will have a smaller amount of votes to work with.

 

Again these are just speculations.   

FM

Last elections count were APNU 139678 Votes or 40.8%: AFC 35,333 Votes or 10.3%: PPP/C 166,340 Votes or 48.6%

 

Assuming that Populations of Voters remain static: that is 139,678 + 35,333 + 166,340 = 341,351 Total Voters:

 

PPP/C assumed figures 166,340 less 8% = 153,033

APNU assumed figures  139,678 add 6% = 148,059

AFC   assumed figures    35,333 add12% =  39,573

 

So my assumptions would be Total Voters  340,665 

 

From the figures listed, the PPP/C will only muster a majority by 5,000 Votes

 

And if APNU and AFC were to Coalate then the PPP/C would be kicking dust.

FM

and ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely.

 

The data speaks volumes. PPP cork duck, Cobra and Dem guy buktas are soiled right now.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I think some people just love to hear themselves BRAYING.

You mean bray like assjack?


bugga batty, Grasp your ears firmly and pull;
you might just be able to remove your head from your ass.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I think some people just love to hear themselves BRAYING.

You mean bray like assjack?


bugga batty, Grasp your ears firmly and pull;
you might just be able to remove your head from your ass.

Assjack, you so ass backwards.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

and ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely.

 

The data speaks volumes. PPP cork duck, Cobra and Dem guy buktas are soiled right now.

PPP 56%, you guys split the rest.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

and ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely.

 

The data speaks volumes. PPP cork duck, Cobra and Dem guy buktas are soiled right now.

PPP 56%, you guys split the rest.

 

Base looks like you got some more accurate inside Info. Thanks.

Time for a bigger celebration.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I think some people just love to hear themselves BRAYING.

You mean bray like assjack?


bugga batty, Grasp your ears firmly and pull;
you might just be able to remove your head from your ass.

Assjack, you so ass backwards.

 

Bugga batty baseman, You have got your head so far up
your ass you can chew your food again on the way down.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

and ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely.

 

The data speaks volumes. PPP cork duck, Cobra and Dem guy buktas are soiled right now.

PPP 56%, you guys split the rest.

Keep on dreaming, your dreams might become a nightmare, when the corrupt PPP/C starts to kick dust

FM

There is no sane reason/s to come to the conclusion that the Corrupt PPP/C will get more votes now, than the last Election.

Quote " ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely."unquote

 

There is reason/s to believe that a large numbers of PPP/C supporters are pissed off with those scumbags who feels that they are gods. I do not see those voters going out and vote.

FM
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Originally Posted by asj:

There is no sane reason/s to come to the conclusion that the Corrupt PPP/C will get more votes now, than the last Election.

Quote " ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely."unquote

 

There is reason/s to believe that a large numbers of PPP/C supporters are pissed off with those scumbags who feels that they are gods. I do not see those voters going out and vote.

PPP 56% of turnout voters.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

and ASJ the likelyhood of the PPP gaining votes after all the debacles and scandals that have pervaded since 2011 is highly unlikely.

 

The data speaks volumes. PPP cork duck, Cobra and Dem guy buktas are soiled right now.

PPP 56%, you guys split the rest.

Keep on dreaming, your dreams might become a nightmare, when the corrupt PPP/C starts to kick dust

PPP all the way, assjack in the cesspool.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

I personally think that this "no confidence" is hot air and the PPP is rubbing its hands with glee as clearly they can continue to avoid the LGE.


* Very good post carib bai.

 

Rev

Oh so you finally agree that the PPP is scared of LGE?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

PPP 56% of turnout voters.

The most disaffected people are the ones who traditionally voted PPP.  The ones who don't like the people smell a wounded dog and will turn out to vote to finish it off.

 

PPP will get fewer votes than before. Based on reports the AFC is making inroads into the Indian vote, and in fact seems to be emerging as the alternate Indian party.

 

You PPPites will scream race, but it appears as if many Indians now tire of it.  What more concerns them is the arrogance and blatant corruption.  Now reports that a Chinese company is literally raping Guyana of its resources just as it did in Africa, and before hat South East Asia!  Why in a country which is supposedly so eco friendly?  Isnt the purpose to maximize forestry returns by getting the most value added, to minimize the need to cut down huge acreages of the rain forest to get some return?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

PPP 56%, you guys split the rest.

I see now that the PPP has the Burnham hooligans working with them, they predict the election results even before the first ballot is cast.

 

Only problem is that both APNU and the AFC are way more aggressive than Cheddi's PPP was, so they will NOT get away with a rigged election.

 

The only way that you will get 56% of the votes is by blatant rigging.

 

PPP 42% APNU 41% AFC17%.  I predicted correctly the results in 2011 and I stand by these results in 2015.

 

Now let us see the PPP govern in its arrogance when they have only one more seat than APNU, and significantly less than the opposition combined!

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Last elections count were APNU 139678 Votes or 40.8%: AFC 35,333 Votes or 10.3%: PPP/C 166,340 Votes or 48.6%

 

Assuming that Populations of Voters remain static: that is 139,678 + 35,333 + 166,340 = 341,351 Total Voters:

 

PPP/C assumed figures 166,340 less 8% = 153,033

APNU assumed figures  139,678 add 6% = 148,059

AFC   assumed figures    35,333 add12% =  39,573

 

So my assumptions would be Total Voters  340,665 

 

From the figures listed, the PPP/C will only muster a majority by 5,000 Votes

 

And if APNU and AFC were to Coalate then the PPP/C would be kicking dust.

The above figures would give the PPP/C 45 %

The above figures would give the APnu  43 %

The above figures would give the AFC    12 %

 

These are all based on a voters turn out of 340,665

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by asj:

Last elections count were APNU 139678 Votes or 40.8%: AFC 35,333 Votes or 10.3%: PPP/C 166,340 Votes or 48.6%

 

Assuming that Populations of Voters remain static: that is 139,678 + 35,333 + 166,340 = 341,351 Total Voters:

 

PPP/C assumed figures 166,340 less 8% = 153,033

APNU assumed figures  139,678 add 6% = 148,059

AFC   assumed figures    35,333 add12% =  39,573

 

So my assumptions would be Total Voters  340,665 

 

From the figures listed, the PPP/C will only muster a majority by 5,000 Votes

 

And if APNU and AFC were to Coalate then the PPP/C would be kicking dust.

The above figures would give the PPP/C 45 %

The above figures would give the APnu  43 %

The above figures would give the AFC    12 %

 

These are all based on a voters turn out of 340,665

You figures are based on voodoo logic.

FM

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