Elections must be held, at least, by 20 March 2019.

Extension to this date can be accomplished with the support of the PPPC to achieve the needed votes in parliament; provided a well defined date and process is presented.

@Former Member It sounds as if APNU(PNC) are banking on the the current voters list expiring, so by default the elections are delayed as GECOM insists that a new one will take 9months(ish)

So question...what if they do call the election now but insist on a new list what’s the scenario then?  

pipe dream that elections will be held by March 20 2019

It is NOT a dream, a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. But your PNC do not respect such things the same way Donkeys do not respect Rabbits!!!!

Demerara_Guy posted:

Elections must be held, at least, by 20 March 2019.

Extension to this date can be accomplished with the support of the PPPC to achieve the needed votes in parliament; provided a well defined date and process is presented.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Elections must be held, at least, by 20 March 2019.

Extension to this date can be accomplished with the support of the PPPC to achieve the needed votes in parliament; provided a well defined date and process is presented.

So it was written, but so shall NOT be done. If I get a dollar each time you repeat yourself of on parliament and law of the land, I would be a rich man today. 

Demerara_Guy posted:

Elections must be held, at least, by 20 March 2019.

Extension to this date can be accomplished with the support of the PPPC to achieve the needed votes in parliament; provided a well defined date and process is presented.

Not going to happen because the PPP hasn't even revealed who their PM candidate is.

Relax.

Dougla_80 posted:

@Former Member It sounds as if APNU(PNC) are banking on the the current voters list expiring, so by default the elections are delayed as GECOM insists that a new one will take 9months(ish)

So question...what if they do call the election now but insist on a new list what’s the scenario then?  

Dougla_80

They have no power under the constitution to make such calls/decisions.

The fundamental issues are ...

1. No-confidence motion approved; hence elections; at the latest; around March 20, 2019.

2. Extension beyond the three-month period from December 2018, when the no-confidence motion was approved, can only be granted with the approval of; at least; two-thirds of all MPs.

3. There are no ambiguities regarding Section 106, subsections (6) and (7) of the Guyana Constitution.

Section 106, subsections (6) and (7)

(6) The Cabinet including the President shall resign if the Government is defeated by the vote of a majority of all the elected members of the National Assembly on a vote of confidence.

(7) Notwithstanding its defeat, the Government shall remain in office and shall hold an election within three months, or such longer period as the National Assembly shall by resolution supported by not less than two-thirds of the votes of all the elected members of the National Assembly determine, and shall resign after the President takes the oath of office following the election.”

Guyana Constitution --

http://www.oas.org/juridico/sp...guy_constitution.pdf

bottom line is there will no election by 3/20/19...

Demerara_Guy posted:

Dougla_80 posted:

@Former Member It sounds as if APNU(PNC) are banking on the the current voters list expiring, so by default the elections are delayed as GECOM insists that a new one will take 9months(ish)

So question...what if they do call the election now but insist on a new list what’s the scenario then?  

Dougla_80

They have no power under the constitution to make such calls/decisions.

 

http://www.oas.org/juridico/sp...guy_constitution.pdf

Under Burnham's constitution that you seem to think is so sacred. It should be evident by now that this constitution has great weaknesses and so should be worked on by the population at large.

THAT is the constitutional crisis.  Not Jagdeo's desperation to be in place when the first oil revenues pour in.

Ray posted:

bottom line is there will no election by 3/20/19...

The PPP isn't ready.  There is Irfaangate with his possibly fake degree.  Jagdeo is still way too visible given that he isn't the presidential candidate.  And the PPP hasn't chosen their black stooge for PM yet. Maybe they are trying to see if they should even bother with one, given that the last two didn't deliver the numbers of black votes that the PPP will need to be guaranteed a large margin of seats.

caribny posted:

Ray posted:

bottom line is there will no election by 3/20/19...

The PPP isn't ready.  There is Irfaangate with his possibly fake degree.  Jagdeo is still way too visible given that he isn't the presidential candidate.  And the PPP hasn't chosen their black stooge for PM yet. Maybe they are trying to see if they should even bother with one, given that the last two didn't deliver the numbers of black votes that the PPP will need to be guaranteed a large margin of seats.

PPP is ready but now Lowenfeld get heart attack.

Guyana Constitution was made when Forbes Burnham "miraculously secured" far more than two-thirds of the MPs in parliament for the PNC.

Indeed, the major changes which are needed requires as a minimum the support of, at least, two-thirds of all MPs.

When the PNCR lost the election in 1992, the number of MPs was in the 50's primarily for the PPPC and PNCR.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

PPP is ready but now Lowenfeld get heart attack.

Lowenfield and who else getting heart attack to conduct the election.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Guyana Constitution was made when Forbes Burnham "miraculously secured" far more than two-thirds of the MPs in parliament for the PNC.

Indeed, the major changes which are needed requires as a minimum the support of, at least, two-thirds of all MPs.

When the PNCR lost the election in 1992, the number of MPs was in the 50's primarily for the PPPC and PNCR.

And this event which occurred when PPP strongholds voted en masse for this constitution is one that you take seriously.

The constitution was set up using fraud to suit Burnham's purposes and the result is that Guyana is still waging a slow burn civil war that began almost 60 years ago.  It remains the laughing stock of the Caribbean, despite its large natural resource base and its low population, meaning that unlike other Caribbean nations, Guyana has vast room for expansion.  Name any indice of socio economic development within CARICOM and we only beat Haiti.

The constitutional crisis is that we still use Burnham's rag and treat it like a sacred text.  If it is seen as being so inviolate then why will anyone move for it to be changed.

And its not the mere document which needs to be reviewed but also the structures of governance and safeguards to force inclusionary rule.

Jagdeo rushing to win an election is NOT a priority.  Changing the way that Guyana is governed is.

And this 2/3 of the MPs is Burnham nonsense which was engineered to guarantee that the constitution would never be changed. 

It should also not be up to MPs for these changes to be made.  It should be a commission of nonpartisan entities representing a wide cross section of Guyana's ethnic, geographic, gender, religious, occupational and social class diversity which should spear head the changes.

All the MPs need to do is to vote to allow this entity to begin its work.  THAT should have been what the NCV should have been about.  If Jagdeo tabled a motion for this and the Coalition refused for this to be voted on THEN he should have moved for an NCV.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

PPP is ready but now Lowenfeld get heart attack.

Lowenfield and who else getting heart attack to conduct the election.

So the PPP wins and then what?  Guyana is a divided nation with two large groups, both feeling excluded and distrusting each other.

So what does winning an election do?  Its been 27 years since 1992 and Guyana still trails the rest of the English speaking Caribbean in every index of socio economic development. 

Some one wrote a letter in KN whining about why Bajans and Bahamians don't need visas to visit Canada or the UK and are treated more respectfully by the USA when they apply for visas to that nation.  The writer was so insulted that tiny places with no resources get better treatment.  Well fewer people from those countries want to jump visas and in fact Guyanese have been known to try to stay illegally in both places as well. 

Trinis working in Guyana's oil are paid more than Guyanese doing the same jobs (though presumable less than US workers would be).  This shows that Guyana is still at the bottom of the labor table.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

PPP is ready but now Lowenfeld get heart attack.

Lowenfield and who else getting heart attack to conduct the election.

I am not joking.

Gaskin finds himself in America so he skont knows that he cannot tell America that his government plans to become an illegal government. Why didn’t he Parrott what the other Coalition government fools have been saying in Guyana?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

PPP is ready but now Lowenfeld get heart attack.

Lowenfield and who else getting heart attack to conduct the election.

I am not joking.

Chief Elections Officer hospitalised after suspected heart attack

By News Source Guyana on February 27, 2019, https://theworldnews.net/gy-ne...spected-heart-attack

News Source understands that it is unlikely that his ailment will require any major surgical procedure. However, he will remain hospitalised for another two days for observation purposes.

Chief Elections Officer, Keith Lowenfield, is now a patient of the Caribbean Heart Institute here in Georgetown after he complained of feeling unwell.

He has been undergoing a number of medical tests and News Source understands that the Doctors believe that he might have suffered a suspected heart attack after his blood pressure soared extremely high.

Lowenfield reportedly visited the Georgetown hospital yesterday before he was transferred to the Caribbean Heart Institute.

News Source understands that it is unlikely that his ailment will require any major surgical procedure. However, he will remain hospitalised for another two days for observation purposes.

Lowenfield, who is known to suffer from hypertension, had been advised by Doctors recently to slow down the pace of his work and get more rest.

But with possible early elections this year and several meetings of the Elections Commission, he has been hosting several meetings with his secretariat and also meeting with the Commission on a regular basis.