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German citizen claims Police brutality

 

May 13, 2012 | By | Filed Under News 

 

 

-  after Irfaan Ali ‘wake house’ incident

 

A Guyana-born woman who is now a German citizen, claims that she was badly beaten and dragged out of her house by the police and then thrown into the “wet cell” at the La Grange Police Station, West Bank Demerara.


The woman, Fareena Hahn, believes that she suffered the treatment because of her “power drunk” neighbours.  The woman’s property is sandwiched between Minister Irfaan Ali’s seaside mansion and his father’s residence at Sea Spray, Leonora, West Coast Demerara.


The incident occurred after Mrs Hahn complained that vehicles were blocking her entrance and keeping her horses from coming into her yard.

 

Fareena Hahn

 

Hahn, who migrated to Germany in 1990, is home to visit her mother and other relatives who live just nearby in Sea Spray.


The woman said that on Tuesday last, she was having a normal day when she started noticing vehicles parking on the road and a group of persons congregating. She said as the evening moved along, more people and more vehicles came.
Mrs Hahn said she later learnt that Minister Ali’s house was being used to keep a “wake” for his uncle. The man who died is M.Z Ali, a former newspaper editor who was the brother of Minister Ali’s father.


The woman said that she told the security guard at Minister Ali’s house to ask persons with vehicles not to park in front of her entrance. She said her wishes were respected.

On the said Tuesday night, the horses ran away, Mrs Hahn claimed, and so on Wednesday she started searching for them. She located the horses a few doors away under a bottom house, but with the crowd Wednesday again, she said it was difficult to bring them home.


The woman said that she decided to spend most of the day at her mother’s residence and only returned home later the night in time to bring in the horses. She said on Tuesday night most persons at the wake had left after 21:00 hrs, so she figured that would have been the case on Wednesday.

Mrs Hahn said that she returned home, but just after 21:00 hrs, she heard sirens. Since it was getting late, she decided to look outside to see if the crowd had eased so she could try to get her horses in.


However, when she looked out, she said she noticed vehicles parked in front of her entrance, and so she called out to the man sitting in the car to park elsewhere. However, she said there was no response, so she flashed her torchlight so she could get the person’s attention if they could not hear her.


She said this persisted for a while, and someone came out of the car, but folded his hands and ignored her.


Mrs Hahn said she became upset because to her the attitude of the driver seemed to be “Who are you?” and didn’t pay her any mind.


She said that she then decided to come outside to press her case. However, she said that she noticed that the car parked in front of her gate was in fact the car of President Donald Ramotar.

Mrs Hahn said that she angrily shouted that someone should have had at least a little bit of respect for her space by telling her the President’s vehicle was parked there.


She said that if her neighbours were expecting the President they could have at least made parking arrangements for him and his security detail. Mrs Hahn said she felt she was being fair, and the attitude towards her was a “big and bad” attitude.
The woman said that as she protested, a burly looking Police officer dressed in brown clothes started to approach her in an angry mood, and she quickly told him “Don’t touch me!”


She said that she stood around a bit, and then decided to go back into her house. As she was closing the gate, she said a policeman told her: “You better tie it (her gate) up properly.”


She said she responded: ‘Why you don’t go and wash you mouth.” At that point, Mrs Hahn said she proceeded inside her house and took a shower. As she came out to close her door, she said she noticed a policewoman standing outside.

“At that very instant I don’t know what happened. All I know I was grabbed by a police officer and was being punched and kicked about the body.”


Mrs Hahn said that she soon realized there were two male police officers and two female officers. Mrs Hahn said she put up a fight by hooking her foot to the stairs, but she said a relative of Minister Ali kept urging the Police to “carry she down.”
Mrs. Hahn said she was dragged down the step and out of the yard and was thrown into a waiting Police minibus. As she was being shoved into the vehicle a policeman pinned her down with his feet.

She bears marks of violence about her feet, back, legs, and abdomen.


The woman said that she was then taken to the La Grange Police Station. There, she said she was being asked to sign a statement she did not see. Mrs. Hahn said that she angrily demanded to know why she was being charged.


She said a female officer then said in an undertone that she was being charged for abusive language. As she protested the charge, Mrs. Hahn said a male Police officer became annoyed, saying, “This f***in woman, shut you f***in mouth.” At that she said that officer told another officer to throw her in the “wet cell.”

The woman said that she spent a good few hours there screaming at the top of her voice, demanding her right to a phone call so that her mother could know where she was. Mrs. Hahn said that later a Police officer came and released her from the wet cell.


“All I know was that a next gate was being opened and I found myself in a cell with six other women.”


Mrs. Hahn said that she spent the following day and night in jail, but on Friday morning, she and the others started protesting to know what was happening to them.


Mrs. Hahn said that the police at La Grange said that her matter is a matter for the Leonora Police station and they had no information about her from Leonora. Mrs. Hahn said she realized then that she would be confined to jail over the weekend. With this thought she demanded to be heard before the court.

She said she was taken to the Vreed-en-hoop Magistrate’s Court, but after much confusion, the Police realised there would be no court in session there, so they took her to the Wales Magistrate’s Court.

These, she said, she was asked to plead to a charge of abusive language for which she pleaded not guilty.


She is due to return to court early next month.

 
 

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Originally Posted by Pointblank:

It didnt take long for rumouthtar to pick up where BJ left off

Bai, alyuh tek everyting and mek wan biiig intanational case.  Ah wah Ramo gafa do wid da.  So wah, yuh goa blame Abama fuh dah lil black bai wuh geh kill wid wite man in Florida?  Peeple dozz abuse dem lil powah, specially dem wah gah only lilbit.  Mi rememba wan incident juss laka dah wid mi faada, bu wah wan PNC man.  Dem put dem Galant pon abie house brige an' tell abie suk it up.  Now wah, abie goa blame Burnham fuh dah?  Abie pon tap, alyuh rememba datt.

FM

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.


Hey fat man D2,

 

When will the AFC investigate corruption and fraud in their own party ?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

She should start a civil action against the police. She was acting withing her rights.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

She should start a civil action against the police. She was acting withing her rights.

Rite deh, mi gree wid yuh.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Exactly Sledge. Dem AFC are trying to Blame the president for the actions of the police.

 

Yet, they refuse to call in the police to investigate corruption and fraud in the AFC.

 The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

She should start a civil action against the police. She was acting withing her rights.

 Guyana's laws are still in the dark ages. It is difficult to bring civil suits.Further, the courts only function for the rich.

 

The president ought to call this lady and apologize if as she say she was arested for protesting that her car was blocking her driveway.

 

However, lets not fool ourselves. While the secret service will not park in flagrant violations of the rule they will not let any one curse and scream in the presence of the president. That person will certainly get a week long looking over in a psych ward and a thorough investigation.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

She should start a civil action against the police. She was acting withing her rights.

 Guyana's laws are still in the dark ages. It is difficult to bring civil suits.

Yea, alyuh deh space age nah, yuh stump yuh toe and sue fuh million dalla.  Yuh call abie laws dark age, come donk hay an' bruk am nah, see how qik yuh geh bruk rass.  Bu nah up vex, yuh moo luky dann dah lil black bai up deh in Florida.  Poo lil bai ah eat he chacklit, mine e' business an dah man kill am, and look wah fuh he geh arress nah.  Deal wid alyuh prablims den tell abie wah wrang wid abie own.

 

Now tell mi, ah who civilize and who di jackass?

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

She should start a civil action against the police. She was acting withing her rights.

 Guyana's laws are still in the dark ages. It is difficult to bring civil suits.

Yea, alyuh deh space age nah, yuh stump yuh toe and sue fuh million dalla.  Yuh call abie laws dark age, come donk hay an' bruk am nah, see how qik yuh geh bruk rass.  Bu nah up vex, yuh moo luky dann dah lil black bai up deh in Florida.  Poo lil bai ah eat he chacklit, mine e' business an dah man kill am, and look wah fuh he geh arress nah.  Deal wid alyuh prablims den tell abie wah wrang wid abie own.

 

Now tell mi, ah who civilize and who di jackass?

 If you do not have proper laws you need to have them crafted by the legislators. It has nothing to do with the kid dying in Florida or the decapitation of a porknocker or the slashing of the throat of a security guard.

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
The police are the worse in the caribbean because of lax control and oversight by the PPP. They make up most of the criminal gangs plaguing the nation.

Sao wah new, da bin di case since Burnham dayz.  How come dem wite man poolice up deh a shoot an' kill so much blackman wah nah do nuttin.

I guess you are justifying and condoning the brutality by the Guyanese police.

Nah bai, wah mi seh, alyuh nah jump pon di Prez every time.  Nuff baad ting dozz happan, do Prez nah gah nutin fuh do wid it.  Datt wy mi taalk bout dem bad ting wah happan up deh.

 

But mi gafa seh, datt homan tink shi deh Garmany nah, shi gah lil hatt mout pun shi lil coolie rass. Now nah geh mi wrang, mi nah condone wah dem do.

She should start a civil action against the police. She was acting withing her rights.

 Guyana's laws are still in the dark ages. It is difficult to bring civil suits.

Yea, alyuh deh space age nah, yuh stump yuh toe and sue fuh million dalla.  Yuh call abie laws dark age, come donk hay an' bruk am nah, see how qik yuh geh bruk rass.  Bu nah up vex, yuh moo luky dann dah lil black bai up deh in Florida.  Poo lil bai ah eat he chacklit, mine e' business an dah man kill am, and look wah fuh he geh arress nah.  Deal wid alyuh prablims den tell abie wah wrang wid abie own.

 

Now tell mi, ah who civilize and who di jackass?

 

Sledge Bhai,

 

Storm is one big fat one.

FM
There are always two sides to a story. This woman look like she is a fireass, cussing up the president and police. She needs to be disciplined. Guyanese need to learn respect.
FM
Originally Posted by TI:
There are always two sides to a story. This woman look like she is a fireass, cussing up the president and police. She needs to be disciplined. Guyanese need to learn respect.

Respek nah deh no way from tapp to battam.  Mi dozz try wid mi pikny dem, but dem a see how big peeple behave all roun dem and waan knoo was rite.

 

Yuh rite, shi look laka fiah rass an shi geh cut ass.  She 'usband prabably sittin wan carna seh, good fuh shi rass.

FM
Originally Posted by TI:
There are always two sides to a story. This woman look like she is a fireass, cussing up the president and police. She needs to be disciplined. Guyanese need to learn respect.

Respect works both ways. You don't abuse your authority by blocking private entrances! It's this kind of lawlessness that makes Guyana the hellhole that it is.

FM
Originally Posted by TI:
There are always two sides to a story. This woman look like she is a fireass, cussing up the president and police. She needs to be disciplined. Guyanese need to learn respect.

 What the hell does the woman and your supposition she is a firerass ( another term getting meaning from odious abuse of women) has to do with the reality she was mishandled by discourteous men in the President party and her protests brought the infamous Guyanese black coats on her heads. These crows squawk at the behest of the President and if he heard this story and does nothing then much more the worm he is in my reckoning.

FM

true the woman may have cursed out the police for parking infront of her properity, but I can't imagine someone being ill-treated like that and thrown in the lockups for a minor matter like that.  She should have been arrested and charged then realised on bail not manhandled and thrown in the wet cell for such a minor offense.

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:

It didnt take long for rumouthtar to pick up where BJ left off

Bai, alyuh tek everyting and mek wan biiig intanational case.  Ah wah Ramo gafa do wid da.  So wah, yuh goa blame Abama fuh dah lil black bai wuh geh kill wid wite man in Florida?  Peeple dozz abuse dem lil powah, specially dem wah gah only lilbit.  Mi rememba wan incident juss laka dah wid mi faada, bu wah wan PNC man.  Dem put dem Galant pon abie house brige an' tell abie suk it up.  Now wah, abie goa blame Burnham fuh dah?  Abie pon tap, alyuh rememba datt.

some PEOPLE TALK SOME REAL CRAP!

so you are measuring the PPP's  performance by the PNC's records . The kyar pun yuh bridge was bURNHAM'S KYAR ? HERE IT IS THE PRESIDENT'S CAR AND ENTOURGAGE INCONVENIENCED THE LADY .

FM
Originally Posted by kwaku:

true the woman may have cursed out the police for parking infront of her properity, but I can't imagine someone being ill-treated like that and thrown in the lockups for a minor matter like that.  She should have been arrested and charged then realised on bail not manhandled and thrown in the wet cell for such a minor offense.

Dude the PNC and PPP both have long histories of abuses. These morons dont see themselves as servants of the public but demi gods . There is a pervasive sick pathetic yet very dangerous mindset in Guyana that anyone with any amount of authority is empowered to abuse citizens who they view as nothing more than slaves of the political parties.

FM
Originally Posted by Jungle Girl:
Originally Posted by TI:
There are always two sides to a story. This woman look like she is a fireass, cussing up the president and police. She needs to be disciplined. Guyanese need to learn respect.

Respect works both ways. You don't abuse your authority by blocking private entrances! It's this kind of lawlessness that makes Guyana the hellhole that it is.


Try cussing down NYPD or Obama entourage when they block your street. At least Americans have more civility, yet someone was beaten and arrested for crossing the street when the presidential motorcade passed through Wall Street. Given police are very reactive in Guyana, and many foreigners, like this German woman think they can say anything because they have foreign citizenship. I agree with the police to teach them some respect. In NY police shoot people for less, she should be thankful she didn't perform in NY.
FM
Originally Posted by kidmost:
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:

It didnt take long for rumouthtar to pick up where BJ left off

Bai, alyuh tek everyting and mek wan biiig intanational case.  Ah wah Ramo gafa do wid da.  So wah, yuh goa blame Abama fuh dah lil black bai wuh geh kill wid wite man in Florida?  Peeple dozz abuse dem lil powah, specially dem wah gah only lilbit.  Mi rememba wan incident juss laka dah wid mi faada, bu wah wan PNC man.  Dem put dem Galant pon abie house brige an' tell abie suk it up.  Now wah, abie goa blame Burnham fuh dah?  Abie pon tap, alyuh rememba datt.

some PEOPLE TALK SOME REAL CRAP!

so you are measuring the PPP's  performance by the PNC's records . The kyar pun yuh bridge was bURNHAM'S KYAR ? HERE IT IS THE PRESIDENT'S CAR AND ENTOURGAGE INCONVENIENCED THE LADY .

Some alyuh lil ccolies goa up deh, larn lil english an bu alyuh juss soa stupit.   Ok soa the Prezzy cyar inconvienc shi soa shi cuss out.  Alyuh muss mess even wid dem lil govna ava deh see wah yuh geh.  Mi nah seh shi shud get beat up, bu' shi gatt nuff mout an agrivate dah policeman.

FM
Originally Posted by kwaku:

Fully agree with you Kid,  they just wanted to show her who is 'boss'.

 

Mi hope shi larn shi lesson.  Alyuh nah come donk hay an mess wid abie prezzy. Abie pon tapp.

FM

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