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FM
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Unity in diversity, not “One People; One nation; One Destiny”

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The following is a response in 2001 to Mr David de Caires, then publisher of the Stabroek News, who had delivered a lecture in Trinidad on the “Problems of Nation Building” within the context of the “ethnic problems” in Guyana. His premise in unfortunately still held by most politicians.

“Mr de Caires proposed that “nation building” is a process (or an end) which would address the ethnic problems identified. He asserts unequivocally that while Guyana is a “State”, “we are not yet a nation”. His “yet” joins him with those who conflate or would conflate nation and State. We contend that this is an extremely dangerous notion since it is this conflation over the past two hundred years, which has been the cause of ethnic conflict to begin with.

Now it is self-evident that groups defined as “different” by their disparate cultures have always existed. And for most of the history of mankind, it was accepted these groups could define themselves by their origin in a particular territory as “citizens” of that territory or state (jus soli) and simultaneously as a “nationality” through their culture and heritage (jus sanguinis). It was accepted that citizens could be of various nationalities and the distinction between citizenship and nationality wasn’t merely academic. While all citizens would have all of the rights and obligations of citizenship, each “nationality”, for instance, was governed by the personal laws of their culture.

Mr de Caires glosses over England’s and France’s “territorial” style of nation formation as “not always a comfortable fit” but the fact of the matter is, it is this insistence that all citizens of a particular territory be practitioners of one particular culture that led to the peculiar modern virulent version of ethnicity and nationalism. For those steeped only in western history, we note that in the polyglot entity of the Ottoman Empire, which accepted the distinction between citizenship and nationality, the struggles between the various “ethnic groups” were quantitatively and qualitatively different. It never had the ethnic cleansing phenomenon of some of its modern day “nation-state” successors such as Yugoslavia.

In the modern world, the norms of “equality” and “self-determination of peoples” have become much too pervasive for us to be talking about monochromatic or monocultural “nations”. England, France and other western states thought they had “solved” their ethnic problems by forming more or less homogeneous populations at the time they became states. But their ethnic conflicts became two “international” world wars as late as this century. Their minorities were dominated but not stifled.

Mr de Caires even alludes to Britain’s attempt to move away from the nation-state equivalence through “devolution” and yet touts the “nation-state” as the ideal. We have to shift our focus of organising our societies away from wiping out differences towards celebrating differences. The question therefore is not one of “nation building” but of organising on the principles of autonomy and differences.

The ideal of a “nation-state” evolved in a Western Europe that had been swept over by a Christianity that insisted that there is only one set of beliefs. It reached its apogee in that Western Europe as a means of defusing class tensions during the rise of capitalism since it appears that in its early stage, their capitalism generated greater irregularities than in the preceding feudal period. However, we can address the tensions arising out of inequalities and differences by other mechanisms than seeking to blend everyone into some melange of what will always be some group’s conception of culture.

As a part of his litany of obstacles to his “nation building” ideal, Mr de Caires claims that in Guyana, “The folk memories of the society begin with slavery and indenture”. This statement is certainly incorrect as it relates to Indians and indentureship. Indians who chose to remain in Guyana did not fixate or define themselves by the indentureship experience. It was a period that they endured and then moved on to create a life based on their folk memories of village India within the constraints of their present circumstances. There is no research to show that the folk memories of Indians “begin with indenture.”

Seemingly, as a second best compromise, since we cannot seem capable of getting it together as a “nation”, Mr de Caires asks, “Can’t we survive as a multi-national, multi-cultural state by defining acceptable terms on which to co-exist-“

We don’t see such a state as a “compromise” but as the only realistic way to build a society where different groups can have a chance of living together harmoniously. “Unity in Diversity”, rather than “One People; One Nation; One Destiny” should be our motto.

http://guyanatimesgy.com/unity...-nation-one-destiny/

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That motto says: ONE PEOPLE: ALL NIGGROES, ONE NATION: GUYANA, ONE DESTINY: ALL ABIE EAT DRY COCONUT TOGETHER WHEN DEM COOLIE GONE.

FM
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yuji22 posted:

Time to change that.

No problem. Mottoes and slogans wear our their significance over time. How many Americans today believe in IN GOD WE TRUST? The motto, not the currency.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

Reminder: The motto "One People, One Nation, One Destiny" was first suggested by PPP Minister of Education and Culture in the 1957-1961 government, Brindley Horatio Benn.

The Hon Brindley Benn thought well of being inclusive. From 1964-1991 we saw the Guyanese motto excluded none niggroes. We have seen a return of niggro dominance. Coolie doesn't live in Guyana anymore.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
yuji22 posted:

Time to change that.

No problem. Mottoes and slogans wear our their significance over time. How many Americans today believe in IN GOD WE TRUST? The motto, not the currency.

I agree with you.

The churches are empty across America. I was in the USA recently and only the Masjid and Mandirs were full. Christians have largely forgotten god, a lot of Churches are empty.

I want to share a lil story about mandirs and masjids.

I recently attended a Hindu wedding in Schenectady at a temple. As usual and being Guyanese, I was about 10 mins late and decided to park in a huge empty parking lot besides the Hindu temple. As I stepped out of My SUV, I saw a very beautiful Masjid across the street from the Hindu temple and as usual, I said Bismillah, something that my grandfather told me to recite everytime I pass by a Masjid.

My daughter pointed out that is was strange that no other car was in the parking lot and I ignored her observation.

Anyway, it ended up being a very beautiful wedding and I took many pictures with photography being one of my hobbies.

After we left the wedding, I observed that the parking lot was almost half full with cars and inquired from a relative if the Mandir owned the parking lot.

I was in for a shock. The Masjid owns the parking lot and had originally approached the Hindu temple to jointly purchase the parking the parking lot so that both the Hindus and Muslims could use the parking.

Actually, the members of the Mandir refused to jointly purchase the parking lot and the members of the Masjid eventually saved up and bought the parking lot.

What troubled me was how selfish the members of the Mandir were by refusing to join with the members of the Masjid in purchasing the parking lot. What was even more troubling that 50 percent of the cars parked in the parking lot were members from the Mandir !

What was classy though, is that members from the Masjid NEVER prevented anyone from using the parking lot. Kudos to my Muslim Brothers.

Bismillah.

 

FM
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Yuji Bai, fa de second time dis morning you stirring me mind and dis time mek me think of me mother.

Behind the Masjid at Albion we had a rice field for home use and had to walk near the Masjid to get to it. There was also a grave in the yard, painted white.

Every time our  mother  pass the Masjid she would say Bismillah and other words that I don't  remember.

I just Google 'The explanation of Bismillah' and as you said,  it is a prayer.

Our mother was not Muslim, but many of her friends  in the logies were and they interacted in  Hindu and Muslim religious ceremonies.

WOW !! After all these  years, me understand more about her wid jus word. I wish she were alive so I could talk to her about these things.

Bismillah        

Tola

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