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Ramotar’s support for Nandlall promotes Gov’t secrecy and lack of transparency – GHRA

October 31, 2014 | By  | Filed Under News 

The following is the full text of a statement from the Executive Committee of the Guyana Human Rights Association.
“The tirade of threats, coarse language, suggestions of misuse of public funds and anti-women comments by Attorney-General and Minister of Legal Affairs, Anil Nandlall, during a recent telephone call to a Kaieteur News reporter, has generated public astonishment and calls for his resignation.
Almost as shocking as the incident itself, however, is the hapless defense of Nandlall by President Ramotar on the flimsy grounds that the taping of the conversation was illegal.
The failure of the President to distance the Cabinet and himself from the content of the call has effectively elevated Nandlall’s action from a personal rant to being the latest step in the increasingly desperate official response to the campaign by Kaieteur News for greater official transparency on public funds involved in a range of controversial projects.
These include the secretive government agency NICIL, ownership of the Marriott Hotel, the privileges enjoyed by the companies which benefitted from the Sanata Complex give-away; telecommunications deals and the Bai Shan Lin contract.
Efforts by Government to resist providing Parliament and the public with this information have spiralled downwards over the years. Along the way, secrecy and lack of transparency has taken its toll on a number of Government mechanisms.
These include the politically-poisoned implementation of broadcast license distribution; years of foot-dragging over establishing the Procurement Commission; appointing a Commissioner of Information who views his role more as guard-dog than gatekeeper, together with comprehensive and continuous abuse of the State-owned media.
This obsessive control of information has provoked more confrontational demands from a frustrated media, which in turn generated Government responses targetting media workers in the form of libel suits and the intervention of the Guyana Revenue Authority (GRA).
It was Kaieteur News’s retaliation to the GRA action, in questioning whether one of the relatives of the Attorney-General should not also be the focus of a similar investigation that appears to have prompted the ill-tempered telephone call.
Whether Mr. Nandlall is forced to resign or not – and the Guyana Human Rights Association (GHRA) believes that resignation is in order – this alone will not resolve the underlying issue. At bottom this latest incident, with all its demeaning characteristics, is rooted in systematic abuse of a core element of democratic practice, namely, not accounting for the use of public funds in a transparent manner. The more fundamental question, therefore, is whether, regardless of the cost to governance and to the quality of public life, the Government intends continued resistance to provision of timely and accurate information on its stewardship of public funds.

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Nandalal has given us the clearest picture of this government ever. It is about rhetorical ethics. They can talk of morality of others but what they say of others does not hold for themselves. Yesterday for example, Ramotar told the Amerind leaders to be transparent and accountable......no need to say more. The irony is self evident.

 

This government will say and do anything as long as it fits a narrative that harmonize with their view of the world. It is also clear they do not care for criticisms as they see themselves as never ever committing a wrong. Every thing they do even if contrary to social norms, is right by them.

 

 

FM

I want to ask the GHRA a few questions. Please cite the ground(s) under (the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights) which you are asking for the AGs head? And while you are at that, please explain the GHRA silence at Nigel Hughe's denial, and then when caught, admitted his association with the Foreman of the Jury into the Lusignan massacre.

Isn't the GHRA a criminal organization made up of political criminals?

FM
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I don't think the UN has to have a code on thiefin or threatening a citizen with death.

 

You think the UN code has to stipulate that?

 

Didn't Anil admit he stole tax payers money and had to pay it back on the call? or you conveniently block that out?

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The President must go and the PPP must go. That's how Nandalall will go. There's an overload of skullduggery from the PPP regime. Overwhelming. Overbearing.

The Govt is going all the way to the MOON and taking the Guyanese People.  FIVE MORE YEARS. THERE'S NO STOPPING US NOW.

Nehru

Statement by the Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers on the Attorney-General’s recorded conversation

The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers wish to express their concern their consternation at the recorded conversation between the Attorney-General and a member of the media. Everything done and said by the Attorney-General since the disclosure of the conversation invites us to draw every and all reasonable inferences therefrom. The statements made by the Attorney-General point to serious legal and moral infractions on his part having regard to his standing as one of the highest legal officers in our country. In the recording the Honorable Attorney-General offered in vulgar and obscene language, knowledge of actual and planned illegal activities. Even in private conversation the comments are deeply troubling and inappropriate and their candid nature, unbridled by the conventions of public discourse, calls his character and professionalism into question.

We are most concerned that the Attorney-General appeared to be acknowledging that the use of deadly violence against the media was an acceptable reaction to frustration where public officials and other citizens are offended by what is reported about them. He also referred to making restitution of funds used by him for some purpose which he did not want the press to report about. The President of Guyana is said to have participated in conversations with a defendant in extant criminal prosecution to have same discontinued in return for less critical reporting by her co-defendant. Equally disturbing is his persistent objectification of the unidentified woman, which conduct flies in the face of the Government’s obligations and commitments regarding respect for women.

Freedom of the press and freedom of speech are essential to the rule of law and political democracy. These freedoms result frequently in the publication of true information which may be offensive or embarrassing to some persons. But the Attorney-General needs no lecture on such matters. His Government is well acquainted with the perils of a society where the media must be “well-behaved” or otherwise risk being killed or intimidated.

Public officials are given wide powers and great responsibility to make thousands of important decisions many of which never see the light of day. We expect in return for the privilege of office, that they demonstrate good character and judgment. Where they demonstrably fail to do so either by public action or by private conduct which bears on their fitness for office, as the Attorney-General has done, such public officials should be removed from office.

As leader of the Bar, the Attorney General mindful of the honour, dignity and integrity of his office should resign immediately. If he does not resign he should be removed. Any other result would be an endorsement of the Attorney-General’s conduct and an admission by the Executive that the highest moral and legal standards are not applicable to the State.

31st October 2014

For further information please contact Ronald Burch-Smith, Christopher Ram or Simone Morris-Ramlall

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

I don't think the UN has to have a code on thiefin or threatening a citizen with death.

 

You think the UN code has to stipulate that?

 

Didn't Anil admit he stole tax payers money and had to pay it back on the call? or you conveniently block that out?

Redux, I did not block anything out. I do not defend wrongdoing or wrongdoers. I agree that he used vulgar language in the tape and ought to have known better, given his office. I agree that he was extremely stupid or used poor judgement in engaging a journalist from a Newspaper that has issues with him personally, and with the government he serves. Having said that, I ask : Did he break any law and if so why hasn't the Police charge him?  The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

Correct ... and so are many others.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

Correct ... and so are many others.

That is expected. DG, However, I believe Pres Ramo should call Anil in his Office and BYTCH SLAP him until he gets blue for being STUPID!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

Correct ... and so are many others.

That is expected. DG, However, I believe Pres Ramo should call Anil in his Office and BYTCH SLAP him until he gets blue for being STUPID!!!!

Agreed, Nehru.

 

A slip up indeed, but it is not a major issue.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

Correct ... and so are many others.

That is expected. DG, However, I believe Pres Ramo should call Anil in his Office and BYTCH SLAP him until he gets blue for being STUPID!!!!

Agreed, Nehru.

 

A slip up indeed, but it is not a major issue.

Thats right he should resign and allow for due process to take place and yes he should be charged. I fully agree with both of you.

 

why hasn't this man been charged yet? he admitted to defrauding tax payers to put sperm in his wife right? its on the tape go and listen again.

FM

The tape was inaudible or not clear in many instances. Looks like it was doctored before its release. And why is the journalist and his employer charged with extortion, that is recording someone without their permission.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

The tape was inaudible or not clear in many instances. Looks like it was doctored before its release. And why is the journalist and his employer charged with extortion, that is recording someone without their permission.

You miss the press statements weh Nandalalla and the PPP accept what he said on the tape is what he said on the tape.

 

Ramotar himself stated that what is on the tape is what he said it is just being taken out of context.

 

Of course ramotar is a dunce so ignore the part about of of context e nah know wah dah mean.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

Correct ... and so are many others.

That is expected. DG, However, I believe Pres Ramo should call Anil in his Office and BYTCH SLAP him until he gets blue for being STUPID!!!!

Agreed, Nehru.

 

A slip up indeed, but it is not a major issue.

Where you got this from? I've been hearing the exact opposite....out of Guyana. Do not be surprised if or when the people decide to take things in their hands.

The PPP/C Govt has to go no question about that.

cain
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

I want to ask the GHRA a few questions. Please cite the ground(s) under (the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights) which you are asking for the AGs head? And while you are at that, please explain the GHRA silence at Nigel Hughe's denial, and then when caught, admitted his association with the Foreman of the Jury into the Lusignan massacre.

Isn't the GHRA a criminal organization made up of political criminals?

No rules should cause him to leave office. His own horribly obscenity filled, women debasing, violence condoning, quid pro crafting for less criticisms of the government, using the state as his bank, castism, and simply being and officious and nasty fellow should demand he show some modicum of sense and leave.

 

I do not want to conflate disparate issues as it seems is the persisting fallacious mechanism of addressing arguments on this board.   Address the matter before you. On this issue there is no more clear reason for a person to demit office. He is caught in every which way with his drawers down. Just face saving should commit him to go and  hide for awhile.

 

If he is the face of the PPP high official in their private moment then little wonder it is that hey are not ashamed of their persisting unaccountable administration over a coven of parasites in the state.

FM
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Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers seems to have thrown out the notion of "innocense before proven guilty".

Correct ... and so are many others.

That is expected. DG, However, I believe Pres Ramo should call Anil in his Office and BYTCH SLAP him until he gets blue for being STUPID!!!!

Agreed, Nehru.

 

A slip up indeed, but it is not a major issue.

Where you got this from? I've been hearing the exact opposite....out of Guyana. Do not be surprised if or when the people decide to take things in their hands.

The PPP/C Govt has to go no question about that.

Of course, the PPP/C will go on to again win in a free and fair election.

FM

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