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Originally posted by Alexander:
Here you have adults showing the middle finger, so young people can think that this is acceptable behaviour. What a bunch of model citizens!

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Originally posted by Alexander:
I see people with their middle fingers. This is seen all over the place. What common sense you want to be used. They are displaying outrageous behaviour. You can put whatever spin you want, it is indecent.

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Originally posted by Alexander:
I see people with their middle fingers. This is seen all over the place. What common sense you want to be used. They are displaying outrageous behaviour. You can put whatever spin you want, it is indecent.

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Originally posted by Alexander:
That is indecent too.

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Originally posted by Alexander:
That is indecent too.

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Originally posted by Horse Man:
stupid case and it only brings more negativity towards the PPP at the wrong time.

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Originally posted by Sheik101:
So many middle finger threads. As far as I'm concern, the gesture on the part of this youth, was not the appropriate thing to do, however a reprimand would have been in order.
Taking it further than that is overkill.

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Originally posted by DND:
What would Burnham's security have done?

Better question yet? How would Granger would have reacted?

I ask these questions to put the reaction of the President's security detail into perspective.

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Originally posted by Rahmah bin Jabr:

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Originally posted by DND:
What would Burnham's security have done?

Better question yet? How would Granger would have reacted?

I ask these questions to put the reaction of the President's security detail into perspective.

Burnham who?

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Originally posted by Chief:

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Originally posted by Sheik101:
So many middle finger threads. As far as I'm concern, the gesture on the part of this youth, was not the appropriate thing to do, however a reprimand would have been in order.
Taking it further than that is overkill.

tHERE WAS NO NEED TO REPRIMAND THE YOUTH JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE.

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“The act of jailing a young man for raising his middle finger, it’s absolutely gone beyond despotism. It couldn’t be stupidity because he was in jail for two weeks ,” she said.

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Originally posted by Sheik101:

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Originally posted by Chief:

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Originally posted by Sheik101:
So many middle finger threads. As far as I'm concern, the gesture on the part of this youth, was not the appropriate thing to do, however a reprimand would have been in order.
Taking it further than that is overkill.

tHERE WAS NO NEED TO REPRIMAND THE YOUTH JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE.

Nonesense. he should have been spoken to, with his parents present.

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Originally posted by DND:
Somewhat similar story out of T&T.

Facebook teen still in trouble
By Joel Julien joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Aug 30, 2011 at 11:40 PM ECT

Story Updated: Aug 30, 2011 at 11:40 PM ECT

THE TEENAGE girl who posted a verbally obscene video in which she threatened Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar may not get away scot-free despite a public appeal by Persad-Bissessar for her to be spared punishment.

The 14-year-old girl, referring to herself as "Granny Quila", posted a video on two social networking sites, YouTube and Facebook, where she hurled death threats, obscene, offensive, vulgar and racial remarks at Persad-Bissessar in relation to the declaration of a State of Emergency and curfew restrictions in certain communities.

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan on Saturday said the video was forwarded to Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs for the incident to be investigated.

On Sunday the schoolgirl posted a second video where she apologised to Persad-Bissessar for the offensive video.

Persad-Bissessar during a ceremony in Penal on Monday said she accepted the teenager's apology.

Ramlogan, however, at the daily National Security briefing yesterday said Persad-Bissessar made the statement in a personal capacity.

"We have to respect the right of the police and the independence of the office of the DPP (Director of Public Prosecutions) in these matters and the Prime Minister made known her views on the matter (on Monday) from a personal stand point and I simply wish to echo those sentiments," he said.

Police Commissioner Gibbs said the investigation into the matter is still ongoing.

"We look at behaviours of people. We do not go after individuals per se, again it is behaviours that they do that we look at and in this particular case it has been in the media quite extensively I can tell you that at a policing stand point we are looking at it as we get through all our investigations it will be determined what action will be taken," Gibbs said.

"We looking into the matter and take our time with that investigation to make sure that we do the right things for all the individuals involved and for the nation in terms of security," he said.

Reports are the teenager reported to the Police Cyber Crimes Unit located at Police Administration Building in Port of Spain around 10 a.m. on Monday. She was allowed to leave soon after.

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Originally posted by DND:
Somewhat similar story out of T&T.

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Originally posted by squingy:



Middle-finger picket outside State House against youth charged
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Written by Denis Scott Chabrol
Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:57


A group of persons on Wednesday stuck their middle fingers out in front of State House – President Bharrat Jagdeo’s official residence, protesting the charging of an 18-year old man for allegedly showing a presidential convoy his middle finger.


Kevin Simon, who was denied bail by a lower court and remanded to jail for two weeks, was eventually granted GUY$5,000 bail and ordered to return to court.
When he did so on Tuesday, the prosecutor withdrew the charge and told the Sparendaam Magistrates’ court that Simon was charged under the wrong section of the law.


Police said the teen was riding in a bottled water distribution truck earlier this month when he made the gesture to presidential security guards after they scolded the driver for not responding to sirens to make way for the convoy.

Ahead of his next court appearance on September 20, the 15 persons- mainly women- staged a picketing exercise on the Main Street Avenue outside State House.

Their placards read ‘A finger is just a finger,” “Raising a finger is not a gun,” “Jobs for the youths, not jail,” “Drop Kevin Simon’s charge now,” and “Freedom of Expression I guaranteed under Guyana’s constitution.”


In Western culture, the finger (as in giving someone the finger or the bird), also known as the middle finger, is an obscene hand gesture, often meaning phrases using a four-letter expletive or "up yours". It is performed by showing the back of a closed hand that has only the middle finger extended upwards.

A police patrol turned up and monitored the protest closely. A presidential guard was seen securing the Main Street entrance by wrapping a thick chain in between the closed sides of the gate. No padock was used.


Speaking with reporters from the picket-line, one of the picketers, University of Guyana lecturer and activist, Charlene Wilkinson deemed said charging Simon symbolized more than tyrannical rule.

“The act of jailing a young man for raising his middle finger, it’s absolutely gone beyond despotism. It couldn’t be stupidity because he was in jail for two weeks,” she said.

Wilkinson disagreed that Simon displayed a “tinge disrespect” , adding that should have been a matter between him and the president. She said the argument should be weighted in favour of freedom of expression.

“We cannot interpret what was in the young man’s mind by his raising of his finger unless we have something in our mind similar,” she added.

If convicted under the Summary Jurisdiction (Offences) Act for the use of insulting or obscene , language, gesture or behaviour, he could be fined GUY$10,000 bail or imprisoned for six months.