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You guys are all doing excellent work, Tola. Keep it up and don't be distracted or discouraged by negative comments. I wish you success in the long term. Trying to save lives is a noble undertaking.
Is there a possibility the help phone lines also come from outside of Guyana. Or, because those in the diaspora are so far from the problem it could prove futile?
I'm playing with the thought that perhaps with help from the outside, those using the service will be more inclined to open up without fear of neighbourhood gossip.
Thanks Gil, its hard sometimes, but debriefing is very important.
Cain, lack of trust and confidentially are big issues in Guyana. It prevent some people from being open with their challenges.
Building trust and relationships are very important factors. This can be established more efficiently with living among the people. Swinging an axe to burst coconuts for copra, work well to build relationship.
Help lines seems more effective when manned by local people. Tone of voice from the diaspora can portrait superiority. Some local Guyanese don't like 'outside' people.
Thirty years ago we started a teen crisis line in our town, because teens were hesitant to speak to adult volunteers 'who sound like their parents', with whom they are having problems. We trained youth to man the crisis lines and suicide levels went down drastically.
This was one of our goals in Guyana with a building and crisis line of our own, to be funded by Canada Fund, but a lawyer with political connections bought the building for his family business.
Tola, Excellent work! Also, as I mentioned, I reside in Guyana and will gladly help in any way I can. If you think that you need to explore how I might be able to help, please contact me privately.
Talk talk talk and nothing doing. Don't blame GNI and its members. This is just a place for opinions and everyone is entitled to theirs. We are not running the country. Blame the de facto government for not doing its job.
When is the government going to take responsibility for its people? All the election promises have been broken. It is not the job of the NGOs to run government programs. They are only there to assist and provide extra help if needed.
And while you are at it tell Sandra and her cronies that they are not getting one more cent of my money or from anyone else in my family. I am working with my own contacts to make sure donations go to the people who need it the most.
Thank you for that feedback Tola.
Tola, you were in Guyana for well over decade, exactly what's your objective pointing your fingers to this forum with a few dozens of Guyanese who vent, rant and rave over little to nothing. You cuss and blame the PPP, now you pointing to this obscure board. Ok, PPP was no good, so I say you have the Govt you want, start there.
Oi Tola, did I forget to mention thank you for your feedback? You da man.
It is of my opinion that Guyanese at the most are never contended. We had the PPP in the Govt, we complain. We get the APNU/AFC we still not happy we find fault.
Many of us here love to sit on the sideline and complain but will not do anything. Yet when others try and do something we find fault at what they are doing. It is the crabs in a barrel mentality that somehow keeps passing on from one generation to the next.
Twenty years from now Guyanese will still complain. Our children who are born in NA do not give a rats ass about what is going on in Guyana. Those of us living the comfortable life in NA do not care either, but we PRETEND, we do care.
I have nothing to contribute to Guyana, I can only voice my opinions, and that means nothing. My life like many of you here is right in NA.
I do not donate to any Charity for Guyana, because I do not know exactly how the money is being used. Instead I do give to people or familes directly.
Baseman, as you say, I do not have the government I want.
If Granger screw up, I will say the same about them and encourage our supporters not to vote for them. We wait to see how his government will perform.
The last government did nothing to help the situation, its members were too nasty, arrogant and vindictive. Jagdeo admitted this fact for losing the election.
From the start the RO and NDC did nothing to assist. They even refused a letter for the national committee. Instead, they swore at us and called Jagdeo their king, placing roadblocks for their own greed, that caused many more youth to die.
What type of government, instead embracing assistance to a huge problem, would degrade it for their own profit.
I don't want to get onto details, but there were issues also at Lusignan, when the last government was in power.
Tola posted:Baseman, as you say, I do not have the government I want.
If Granger screw up, I will say the same about them and encourage our supporters not to vote for them. We wait to see how his government will perform.
The last government did nothing to help the situation, its members were too nasty, arrogant and vindictive. Jagdeo admitted this fact for losing the election.
From the start the RO and NDC did nothing to assist. They even refused a letter for the national committee. Instead, they swore at us and called Jagdeo their king, placing roadblocks for their own greed, that caused many more youth to die.
What type of government, instead embracing assistance to a huge problem, would degrade it for their own profit.
I don't want to get onto details, but there were issues also at Lusignan, when the last government was in power.
Start with Granger/PNC and BBP, the epicenter of suicide. Jagdeo is no longer a "roadblock". Move forward!
Amral, this might be your option to assist your relatives and its good choice.
There has been fraud with NGO handing of funds and a huge mistrust exist in Guyana. The people also seem to have become extremely selfish. A member on GNI seem to have a sense of mistrust with an NGO that we support, but we see them supporting their cause and will continue to help.
Our funds are handled with committee consensus. We recently received a request to support a Mandir with some maintenance, it was denied until they could provide more accountability about how the funds will be spent and our local member will oversee the transaction.
For those who get foreign government assistance, they will know the criteria required to receive the funding and its not easy.
baseman posted:er.
Start with Granger/PNC and BBP, the epicenter of suicide. Jagdeo is no longer a "roadblock". Move forward!
What dat mean, Big Batty Priya? You bad bad man.
baseman posted:Tola posted:Baseman, as you say, I do not have the government I want.
If Granger screw up, I will say the same about them and encourage our supporters not to vote for them. We wait to see how his government will perform.
The last government did nothing to help the situation, its members were too nasty, arrogant and vindictive. Jagdeo admitted this fact for losing the election.
From the start the RO and NDC did nothing to assist. They even refused a letter for the national committee. Instead, they swore at us and called Jagdeo their king, placing roadblocks for their own greed, that caused many more youth to die.
What type of government, instead embracing assistance to a huge problem, would degrade it for their own profit.
I don't want to get onto details, but there were issues also at Lusignan, when the last government was in power.
Start with Granger/PNC and BBP, the epicenter of suicide. Jagdeo is no longer a "roadblock". Move forward!
It is not so easy to move forward, when Jagdeo and his sidekick Mutt and Jeff, continue to influence the people with anything to do with a 'Granger program'.
Regional officials did not support our programs during the PPP government and they continue to do the same now, due to their hatred and vindictiveness for the Granger government.
End result : More Indo kids die from suicide and families are devastated.
cain posted:baseman posted:er.
Start with Granger/PNC and BBP, the epicenter of suicide. Jagdeo is no longer a "roadblock". Move forward!
What dat mean, Big Batty Priya? You bad bad man.
Thanks Cain, this is good one for teachers at Lesbeholden and Mibricuri schools. The MOE was not their favourite place, when they had to wait months for their salary and new directives that was not compatible to BBP.
Another thing we can look at. Do these who decide to end their lives have access to the net?
If not, why not?
If so, maybe we have a link where they could go if they need to reach out. If any here feel they have what it takes to "listen" and assist just by carrying on a conversation maybe we could have our own group right here. To do this, we have to get away from the gutter mentality even I can sometimes be drawn into, keep politics out.
Cain, BBP don't have net service because of cost. Digicel has a cell tower, but GT&T don't. It was only a few years ago when the Digicel tower was erected that BBP got electrical power and the place was built in the early 1960s.
There was a private tower erected at Mibricuri for the general public, but it was taken down.
One of our biggest disappointment was the loss of CDN$230,000 from Canadian funding partners, to provide a wireless system at BBP. We collaborated with Ron from Metro Office Supplies in NY and US Peace Corps volunteers. But after waiting for over a year for the regional people to complete a new room in the school, the deadline expired to use the funds and it was rerouted to a community in the Philippines. This would have been net service to all the schools, business and the people did not have to travel for an hour in Rose Hall Town to make overseas calls. It would have also created jobs, but officials did not see a cut for themselves.
It took us three months for the regional people to cut the tall grass in the school yard.
Unfortunately, Guyana is not set up for things to be done from overseas and its even challenging done in Guyana.
Thanks again for the info Tola.
Zed posted:Tola, Excellent work! Also, as I mentioned, I reside in Guyana and will gladly help in any way I can. If you think that you need to explore how I might be able to help, please contact me privately.
Zed, thanks for your offer. When things are flowing properly again, we will make contact.
Where the ppP were in power the afc/apnu contingent were carrying on the same, scaring people away from Guyana and constant negativity. Why are you surprised? What goes around comes around.
Amral posted:It is of my opinion that Guyanese at the most are never contended. We had the PPP in the Govt, we complain. We get the APNU/AFC we still not happy we find fault.
Many of us here love to sit on the sideline and complain but will not do anything. Yet when others try and do something we find fault at what they are doing. It is the crabs in a barrel mentality that somehow keeps passing on from one generation to the next.
Twenty years from now Guyanese will still complain. Our children who are born in NA do not give a rats ass about what is going on in Guyana. Those of us living the comfortable life in NA do not care either, but we PRETEND, we do care.
I have nothing to contribute to Guyana, I can only voice my opinions, and that means nothing. My life like many of you here is right in NA.
I do not donate to any Charity for Guyana, because I do not know exactly how the money is being used. Instead I do give to people or familes directly.
This is the best advice I see. I do exactly what Amral does. Family and close community people benefit, mandir and so on. Canjee, Soon.