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Caribny, you are blowing smoke about this impact that you have on GNI or even the importance of GNI about those who refuse get involve in the endless debate about race. Additionally, you have not answered what you have done lately to help to make Guyanese  lives better. I think that 99 percent of Guyanese do not know this site exists or even care what is being debated here. Is this the extent of giving back to the Guyanese community? Please reread my post regarding the statements that I view are racist and what I said about the issue of lighting. You just cone here on GNI and pose your racist statements and say that you are just repeating what the KKK has been saying. Maybe, I had overestimated your intelligence if you cannot see it as racist. Certainly, when one discusses Guyana, one has to be cognizant of the role of racial,tension and division. I would argue that this is not the centrality of discussions, at least not from my perspective or on my part. 

Just to remind you that in earlier posts I have noted that racism exists in both of the major groups in Guyana, in fact all racial groups.  The same can be said about crime. I find it strange that you need to have these statements reaffirmed since for me, the are self evident to even people of limited intelligence.  Maybe you just needed to do your bit of making life in Guyana a little better.

 

Z

You haven't told me what you do to help Guyana, so why should I tell you?  You make an assumption that I do nothing to help Guyana. Now why would you think this is the case?

In fact I do NOT care what you do!  There are Indo KKK very active in Guyana, within their own communities, so what does that mean!

Isn't this arrogant of you and reflective of your own latent racism towards blacks.  Yes, the notion typical on this site that blacks are useless and contribute only to negativity.

Stormborn/Danyael gave YOU, and your hypocritical so called moderate Indian buddies, the chance to have an intelligent discussion on Indian racism, to counter the endless racist rant we see from Indians about  Africans.  Did you participate in this?  NO!  And if you did it was to confront, me, redux, and Itaname!

In fact Stormborn/danyael was called an anti Indian racist!

 

You don't have the time, and don't want to deal with the Indo KKK, so don't post then.

FM
Zed posted:

Have you ever tried having a intelligent discussion about racism in Guyana on this site? They cannot even intelligentlyy discuss the high suicide rate without resorting to a lot of garbage. 

The other stuff you posted is just smoke.

 

You could have engaged in an intelligent discussion when Danyael gave you TWO opportunities.  What is missing in Guyana is an intelligent conversation of Indian racism. 

You lost an opportunity there, but instead chose to confront the FEW blacks remaining on GNI.

There has already much discussion about African racism.  Only the extreme Burnhamites denied that it existed.  In fact Walter Rodney, Andaiye, David Hinds, Nigel Hughes, Raphael Trotman, Eusi Kwayana, and many others, have spoken to this issue.  This being validation that African intellectuals do admit that this is an issue.  Of note is that NONE of these were punished by the black population at large for making statements on this issue.

 

And there has been intelligent discussion of the suicide issue.  Just NOT from the Indo KKK segment, but Gilbakka, Tola and others have had lots to say on this issue.

And indeed the mere fact that some cannot discuss the matter intelligently is informative. 

Because experts on the issue claim that suicide is a problem because Guyanese have NOT developed an intelligent way to deal with it. Even as they claim to empathize with the victims, they refuse to listen to them stigmatize them, and even criminalize them.

Bottom line is that the less space taken about by the Indo KKK crowd (and people like Mitwah) the more intelligence will occur here.

Don't under estimate the exposure of this site, and the fact that many "learn" about Guyana and Guyanese from what they see here.  Its really embarrassing to do a google search on Guyana, and up came Mitwah and "poop shoot".

 

FM
caribny posted:
Keffer posted:
Mr.T posted:

One moment the PP shouting that the thieves like unlit streets, which makes East Indians fearful. Well Linden once experienced a targeting of East Indians in a big way, unlike any other part of Guyana. It is therefore very sensible to install extra street lights in Linden so that East Indians living in Linden need no longer be so afraid as in the past.

When/where did the PPP shout "thieves like unlit streets, which makes East Indians fearful" ? How magnanimous and kind-hearted of the government to accommodate the thousands (or is it hundreds of thousands ?) of East Indians who live in Linden !! 

Every year at Babu John they screamed about black violence on Indians.  Their ENTIRE pitch the last election was about black violence on Indians.

Oh they use "PNC" as a code word, but every one in Guyana knows that from the mouths of Jagdeo PNC=blacks, except for the few who were PPP stooges.

 

You all cannot have your cake on eat it too.  Engage in racial paranoia aimed at demonizing Afro Guyanese, and then walking away from that.

Have you ever been to Babu John or do you know where that is ? You are, plain and simple, a liar ! I challenge you to provide evidence that anything of this nature was ever said there. As they say; put up or shut up ....then tuck your racist rail between your legs and run home!

K
Keffer posted:
caribny posted:
Keffer posted:
Mr.T posted:

One moment the PP shouting that the thieves like unlit streets, which makes East Indians fearful. Well Linden once experienced a targeting of East Indians in a big way, unlike any other part of Guyana. It is therefore very sensible to install extra street lights in Linden so that East Indians living in Linden need no longer be so afraid as in the past.

When/where did the PPP shout "thieves like unlit streets, which makes East Indians fearful" ? How magnanimous and kind-hearted of the government to accommodate the thousands (or is it hundreds of thousands ?) of East Indians who live in Linden !! 

Every year at Babu John they screamed about black violence on Indians.  Their ENTIRE pitch the last election was about black violence on Indians.

Oh they use "PNC" as a code word, but every one in Guyana knows that from the mouths of Jagdeo PNC=blacks, except for the few who were PPP stooges.

 

You all cannot have your cake on eat it too.  Engage in racial paranoia aimed at demonizing Afro Guyanese, and then walking away from that.

Have you ever been to Babu John or do you know where that is ? You are, plain and simple, a liar ! I challenge you to provide evidence that anything of this nature was ever said there. As they say; put up or shut up ....then tuck your racist rail between your legs and run home!

It was already posted here from an article, no need to go digging up the shyte again.

That BS brought out many who would probably have never voted and it sure was one of the reasons dem sleazy ass PPP lost.

cain

Produce the 'an article'; if not I suggest you refrain from making unsubstantiated nonsensical claims. PPP did not lose, the election was rigged. It is in the PNC DNA to rig elections. I would be pleased to provide you with indisputable links/evidence that Burnham did this.... Granger has the blood of PPP supporters and election scrutineers on his hands from previous general elections. You are free to call PPP sleazy or whatever you like but Guyana progressed big time during their tenure in office. The most noteworthy act that can be attributed to Granger is the  50% salary increase to his goons !!

 

K
Keffer posted:
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Have you ever been to Babu John or do you know where that is ? You are, plain and simple, a liar ! I challenge you to provide evidence that anything of this nature was ever said there. As they say; put up or shut up ....then tuck your racist rail between your legs and run home!

What evidence need I produce.  EVERY year screams of "PNC" violence.  This year INDIANS ( not Guyanese but INDIANS) were warned that if they don't vote PPP the GDF and the police were going to beat and rape them.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....hronicle-newspapers/

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....lence-on-the-racist-

https://guyaneseonline.wordpre...to-african-Guyanese/

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....er-racist-editorial/

And we don't even have to get to the bottom house screams from the PPP to its Indian base that a PNC victory means that Indo females will be raped in public.

The PPP Chronicle wrote an article that would fit right into Stormfront. So when I call the PPP the Indo KKK and Jagdeo the Grand Wizard, please don't squeal nonsense, unless you agree with this editorial.

 

FM
Keffer posted:

Produce the 'an article'; if not I suggest you refrain from making unsubstantiated nonsensical claims. PPP did not lose, the election was rigged.

Now are you telling me that the PPP, WAS IN GOVERNMENT, and was SO INCOMPETENT that they let the opposition rig?

This really makes the PPP look silly.

Suck it up and understand that with the changing ethnic demographics Indians alone WILL NOT GUARANTEE the PPP victory.

Tell them to stop behaving like the "coolie people party", broaden their ethnic support, and then they might win.

Look at their behavior now. The only former PPP minister dragged before the courts is a BLACK woman. Non Indians have also been fired, or sent on leave. Yet the PPP will have us believe that only Indians have been dismissed.

What the PPP needs to be honest and admit is that the majority of the people dismissed are Indian because the PPP engaged in wholesale EXCLUSION of non Indians from leadership slots.

FM
cain posted:
 

It was already posted here from an article, no need to go digging up the shyte again.

That BS brought out many who would probably have never voted and it sure was one of the reasons dem sleazy ass PPP lost.

The PPP is like the GOP of the Nixon and Reagan era.  Their campaign is to win elections by demonizing blacks to woo Indians and Amerindians.

The result this time was record votes out of Linden and Bartica.  Had the votes in those areas been at levels of 2006 the PPP would have won.  But they killed Lindeners, and so Linden came out in record numbers to REJECT them.  As did G/town and the black villagers in coastal Guyana.

So let the PPP behave as if the only votes which matter are Indians from Berbice!

FM
Keffer posted:

Produce the 'an article'; if not I suggest you refrain from making unsubstantiated nonsensical claims. PPP did not lose, the election was rigged. It is in the PNC DNA to rig elections. I would be pleased to provide you with indisputable links/evidence that Burnham did this.... Granger has the blood of PPP supporters and election scrutineers on his hands from previous general elections. You are free to call PPP sleazy or whatever you like but Guyana progressed big time during their tenure in office. The most noteworthy act that can be attributed to Granger is the  50% salary increase to his goons !!

 

AS I said before I will not go back and dig out crap because you decide to go blind. The only rigging at the polls would have been done by the sleazy PPP and this is why they are confused, they tried to cheat but with the high numbers coming out against them,they were caught by surprise.

Screw the rest where you speak about a dead man, who gives a rats arse about Burnham?

GOOD TING PPP LOST.

cain
caribny posted:
cain posted:
 

It was already posted here from an article, no need to go digging up the shyte again.

That BS brought out many who would probably have never voted and it sure was one of the reasons dem sleazy ass PPP lost.

The PPP is like the GOP of the Nixon and Reagan era.  Their campaign is to win elections by demonizing blacks to woo Indians and Amerindians.

The result this time was record votes out of Linden and Bartica.  Had the votes in those areas been at levels of 2006 the PPP would have won.  But they killed Lindeners, and so Linden came out in record numbers to REJECT them.  As did G/town and the black villagers in coastal Guyana.

So let the PPP behave as if the only votes which matter are Indians from Berbice!

You clearly need to educate yourself on the realities of the Guyana situation. PNC rigged elections time and again by securing votes of scores and scores of dead and non-existent people while denying opposition supporters their legitimate suffrage rights ! To this day, there are YouTube clips which clearly confirm that large numbers of voter registrations were done in England by PNC; the strange thing was that many of the addresses were fictitious and in numerous cases even the neighbors never knew or heard of 'such people'. Many PPP supporters were sent away from poling station because 'they voted already'. PNC drove Guyana to the brink of starvation and destroyed several industries and institutions that were functional and beneficial to the country. Have you ever asked yourself why GNCB (Co-op Bank), the AGRI Bank, GRMB, GMC and several other institutions crumbled ? The infrastructure of the country disintegrated  and became a source of embarrassment to all Guyanese ..... compliments of Burnham and his goons ! Today, one can go from Charity to Crabwood Creek and back in the same day; compliments of who ???; certainly not PNC ! Maybe you had both earplugs and blinders on but my recollection is that Lindeners set fire and destroyed a school as well as shot at the police before a single round was discharged at them....what were the police supposed to do ? I do not/will not speak for the PPP but clearly remember the difficulties and misery that the people had to endure during the PNC years. I visit Guyana every so often and infrastructural improvements made during the PPP years have been substantial. We now have citizens being accosted at night and chased down the streets at high speeds by 'security personnel' and nobody is made to account; the President does not recognize the need for scrutiny of such excesses ..... Guyana is making huge improvements; yeah right !!  

K

Nobody is denying that voting procedures in the 60's and 70's were very weak compared to the ones used today. But the number of extra voters pale into insignificance when compared to the thousands of apparent PNC supporters who were eliminated by the PPP terror arm, the Phantom squad. I would however not recommend that anyone consider Youtube a source of facts. I have seen some weird shit on there, like spacemen.

The PPP is however not exempt from election rigging. They rigged the last election and even had their own people in GECOM. But the results were overwhelming in favour for change. The PPP cannot come to terms with the fact that even with all that massive rigging by them the results were just a few thousand votes short.

Mr.T
Mr.T posted:

Nobody is denying that voting procedures in the 60's and 70's were very weak compared to the ones used today. But the number of extra voters pale into insignificance when compared to the thousands of apparent PNC supporters who were eliminated by the PPP terror arm, the Phantom squad. I would however not recommend that anyone consider Youtube a source of facts. I have seen some weird shit on there, like spacemen.

The PPP is however not exempt from election rigging. They rigged the last election and even had their own people in GECOM. But the results were overwhelming in favour for change. The PPP cannot come to terms with the fact that even with all that massive rigging by them the results were just a few thousand votes short.

Did you read what you wrote ?? To classify deliberate, blatant electoral fraud and dishonesty as 'weak voting procedures' is either a function of  deep, dismal ignorance or shameless disrespect for the intelligence of others; the latter a well-known, ongoing trait of Burnham and the PNC ! Meaningful discussion is only possible when participants are mindful of honesty and objectivity; sadly you lack both. PPP rigged the last election and lost ? What planet are you from ?

K
cain posted:
Keffer posted:

Produce the 'an article'; if not I suggest you refrain from making unsubstantiated nonsensical claims. PPP did not lose, the election was rigged. It is in the PNC DNA to rig elections. I would be pleased to provide you with indisputable links/evidence that Burnham did this.... Granger has the blood of PPP supporters and election scrutineers on his hands from previous general elections. You are free to call PPP sleazy or whatever you like but Guyana progressed big time during their tenure in office. The most noteworthy act that can be attributed to Granger is the  50% salary increase to his goons !!

 

AS I said before I will not go back and dig out crap because you decide to go blind. The only rigging at the polls would have been done by the sleazy PPP and this is why they are confused, they tried to cheat but with the high numbers coming out against them,they were caught by surprise.

Screw the rest where you speak about a dead man, who gives a rats arse about Burnham?

GOOD TING PPP LOST.

Tacit admission of your lies; you cannot produce anything ! 

K
Keffer posted:
 

You clearly need to educate yourself on the realities of the Guyana situation. PNC rigged elections time and again by securing votes of scores and scores of dead and non-existent people while denying opposition supporters their legitimate suffrage rights !

Apparently some one needs to tell you that it is not 1973.  Burnham died 30 years ago and the PPP was in power in 2015 when the elections were held.

So continue to blame Burnham for rigged elections.

Good night.  Sing your national anthem "me hate blackman, blackman a kill ahbe".  Then cry your self to sleep.

FM
Django posted:
Keffer posted:
Amral posted:

Thanks Amral.

Here are a few more 'educational aids' for Granger's Goons to review: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hXup2LaQGo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4edAtrKfaE          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtMVGp9GNe4         

To each his own,the clips were produced by Newguymedia the  elite press team of the PPP,turns out it did not help them.

There is no doubt rigging took place i lived thru that period never voted.

The Indo KKK wishes to pretend that Burnham was still alive on May 11th 2015, as they refuse to admit that the PPP LOST the election.

Poor things.  They still think that elections are won or lost based upon what Berbice Indians do. 

Well they better do some thing other than campaign like they did when their theme song was "blackman a kill ahbe" with the Grand Wizard Jagdeo screaming this at the top of his lungs.

Over 95% of the black population think that the PPP are black haters, and at least 80% of the mixed population thinks likewise.

FM
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kp posted:

CARIBNY, CAIN, and other PNC supporters please look at the youtube that Amral posted it explained how the PNC RIGGED the election, if you don't understand ,well you can't read, can't see ,and you can't hear but not all the same time

Amral posted:

My dear man, haul your ass. Never was a PNC person, never was age to vote in Guyana, didn't give a shit about politics.

Stop blaming a dead man and his party for the PPP's failures. I'm done with ignorant people...goodbye.

cain
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caribny posted:
Keffer posted:
 

You clearly need to educate yourself on the realities of the Guyana situation. PNC rigged elections time and again by securing votes of scores and scores of dead and non-existent people while denying opposition supporters their legitimate suffrage rights !

Apparently some one needs to tell you that it is not 1973.  Burnham died 30 years ago and the PPP was in power in 2015 when the elections were held.

So continue to blame Burnham for rigged elections.

Good night.  Sing your national anthem "me hate blackman, blackman a kill ahbe".  Then cry your self to sleep.

I am well aware of the year ... what YOU are attempting to deny is the fact that this remains an integral component of the PNC culture ! I have never been resentful of any race but you evidently are. I defy you to quote any mention of race in any of my postings... show me where I mentioned race ! Let's see how much of a man you are ....

K
cain posted:
Keffer posted:
caribny posted:
Keffer posted:
Mr.T posted:

One moment the PP shouting that the thieves like unlit streets, which makes East Indians fearful. Well Linden once experienced a targeting of East Indians in a big way, unlike any other part of Guyana. It is therefore very sensible to install extra street lights in Linden so that East Indians living in Linden need no longer be so afraid as in the past.

When/where did the PPP shout "thieves like unlit streets, which makes East Indians fearful" ? How magnanimous and kind-hearted of the government to accommodate the thousands (or is it hundreds of thousands ?) of East Indians who live in Linden !! 

Every year at Babu John they screamed about black violence on Indians.  Their ENTIRE pitch the last election was about black violence on Indians.

Oh they use "PNC" as a code word, but every one in Guyana knows that from the mouths of Jagdeo PNC=blacks, except for the few who were PPP stooges.

 

You all cannot have your cake on eat it too.  Engage in racial paranoia aimed at demonizing Afro Guyanese, and then walking away from that.

Have you ever been to Babu John or do you know where that is ? You are, plain and simple, a liar ! I challenge you to provide evidence that anything of this nature was ever said there. As they say; put up or shut up ....then tuck your racist rail between your legs and run home!

It was already posted here from an article, no need to go digging up the shyte again.

That BS brought out many who would probably have never voted and it sure was one of the reasons dem sleazy ass PPP lost.

Video clip of BJ speech at Babu John election campaign 2015

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Django
kp posted:

You were not allowed to vote.sorry You first had to register. You don't know of hard times in Guyana you were a Lil boy. Even in Canada you still behave like a Lil boy.so grow up and do good with your life.

Funny this. The Indo KKK scream that we shouldn't blame the PPP for anything, yet insist on blaming people who died 30 years ago.

PPP lost. 51% of the voters told them GET LOST!

FM
Keffer posted:
I am well aware of the year ... what YOU are attempting to deny is the fact that this remains an integral component of the PNC culture ! I have never been resentful of any race but you evidently are. I defy you to quote any mention of race in any of my postings... show me where I mentioned race ! Let's see how much of a man you are ....

 

Please point out any comments made by me, which are racist. 

Note to you. Reference to bigotry by others by referring to them as the Indo KKK is NOT racism. Their screams about blacks do NOT differ from any thing that we can read on a white supremacist site.

Attacking the PPP is no more racist than you attacking the PNC.

So outline what I say is racist.  I have been asking about this for YEARS, and have NEVER gotten a response.

 

Jagdeo defended a murderous criminal and screamed and cried at Trinidad when they allowed the USA to snatch Roger Khan.  Called them CARICOM traitors, and wailed that RKs rights as a Guyanese citizen were being violated.  A description of this was put on GNI recently, based on a report of the RK hearings in NYC.

Given this I don't see that the PPP has ANY RIGHT lambasting the PNC regime of the 70s and 80s.

Turns out that BOTH regimes were bloodthirsty and consorted with criminals!

FM
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