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Govt blocks Opposition’s full scrutiny of estimates scrutinising estimates

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

reduces allotted time from 7 to 3 days

 

The 10th sitting of the National Assembly started with heated exchanges between the A Partnership For National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Government and the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Opposition over the restriction placed on the days allowed for the considerations on the 2015 Budget estimates.

In an apparent move to hide from public scrutiny, Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo moved the motion to have the days for the budget considerations reduced to three, as opposed to the seven days conventionally allowed for this exercise.

This has sparked uproar in the National Assembly, with the PPP/C declaring that democracy is under threat. The Party pointed out that this reduction is a denial to the right of Guyanese to scrutinise the budget – the largest budget Guyana has ever seen amounting to $221 billion.

Ignoring the protestation from the other side of the House, Prime Minister Nagamootoo contended that the move is constitutional, alluding to the fact that the request is in line with the Standing Orders.

PPP/C Chief Whip Gail Teixeira

PPP/C Chief Whip Gail Teixeira

But PPP/C Chief Whip Gail Teixeira argued that this goes against established conventions and principles, asserting that the Government is scared of being held answerable to the public for the projects laid down in the Budget 2015.

Teixeira highlighted that there are numerous items in the Budget that demand answers and three days is not enough time for the Government to provide the necessary clarifications on pressing issues and concerns the public may have.

Nonetheless, Speaker of the House Barton Scotland allowed the motion, holding out that there is no fault as it is in line with the Standing Orders.

It was then put to a vote but the results remained the same as 32 voted for the motion to be allowed while 28 voted against it.

Leader of the Opposition Bharrat Jagdeo, in a subsequent interview with media operatives, asserted that the Government is hell-bent on railroading every practice that has been respected since Guyana gained its independence, alluding to the limit to the time allowed for the Opposition Leader to speak, the placement of the Opposition Leader’s speech and now the restriction to the time allowed for the considerations.

“I know because I was here in this past and I sat here on the other side and saw the Leader of the Opposition Desmond Hoyte speak for two hours; in fact, his time expired several times and we voted on the other side to allow him to continue until he finished his speech.

Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo

Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo

They are not only seeking to limit my speech to 45 minutes but also to move away from the tradition where Leader of the Opposition is the second to last speaker,” Jagdeo related.

He went on to say that the Government is clearly afraid that several elements of the budget which are not consistent with progress will be exposed; given their haste to reduce the time allowed for considerations.

“This is a bigger budget than the actual 2014 Budget. It also has several new features where Ministries were reorganised so the line items would have changed. If anything, I thought they would have given us more time to consider the estimates. How can you justify reducing the consideration of the estimates from seven days to three days if you are not afraid of greater scrutiny of these estimates,” the former President argued.

Condemnations continued to be mounted as PPP/C Member of Parliament, Dr Vindhya Persaud, during her budget presentation, expressed her extremely disappointment in the Government for requesting this reduction.

She reminded the APNU/AFC coalition that in the 10th Parliament, they both requested for additional time (more than seven days) for the consideration of the estimates, challenging them to give a rational explanation for the decision to reduce the days to three.

But the fight did not stop there, during the one-hour recess period, the PPP/C held a snap press conference to express their dissatisfaction with the move.

The PPP/C Chief Whip, during the presser, highlighted that to the scrutinising of the estimates is a crucial function of the parliament as it gives some form of reassurance to accountability and transparency.

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Originally Posted by asj:

In an apparent move to hide from public scrutiny, Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo moved the motion to have the days for the budget considerations reduced to three, as opposed to the seven days conventionally allowed for this exercise.

Less time allocated, would means less scrutiny for the Budget, and less scrutiny could means that we are heading for the same shithole again, compliments PNC/AFC.

FM

Whip Gail Teixeira argued that this goes against established conventions and principles, asserting that the Government is scared of being held answerable to the public for the projects laid down in the Budget 2015.

FM

Govt. blasted for reducing debate time on budget estimates

August 21, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

– Opposition deems it “the slaughter of democracy”

By Kiana Wilburg

Never in the history of the National Assembly have the estimates of the budget been debated in three days. The rules of the House allow for such deliberations to last a maximum of seven days. But Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo believes that the current members of the House are quite competent and would not require such a long time. Before the continuation of the debate over the 2015 budget yesterday, Nagamootoo moved a motion to have the estimates of what has been described as the largest budget ever, to be debated within three days. This motion instantly threw the House into a state of confusion. The Opposition’s Chief Whip, Gail Teixeira stood immediately to reject the motion, stressing that Standing Order 73.1 says that there shall be a maximum of seven days for the deliberations. Teixeira said, “Mr. Speaker you are a new kid on the block and debates on the estimates have taken place from up to five to seven days when we were in government  and we will not support this motion for the time for the deliberations to be reduced to three days.” The Opposition Chief Whip also bemoaned the fact that the common courtesy was not even extended to her by the Government’s Chief Whip, Amna Ally, for a discussion on the motion to be done, as normal protocol would dictate. Teixeira stressed that reducing the deliberations to three days is unacceptable and the opposition will oppose it. A few minutes were taken for the Clerk of the National Assembly , Sherlock Isaacs, to consult  with the House Speaker on the said matter during which time, Nagamootoo asked to take the floor to respond to Teixeira. The seasoned lawyer told the Speaker that while Standing Order 73.1 may stipulate that there is a maximum of seven days, it does not state that there should be a minimum time for the deliberations.

Prime Minister, Moses Nagamootoo

Prime Minister, Moses Nagamootoo

 Opposition Chief Whip, Gail Teixeira

Opposition Chief Whip, Gail Teixeira

“A maximum of seven days does not mean we can’t set a minimum if the House wants to,” the Prime Minister added. But Teixeira quickly retorted that protocol must be observed. She said that the 2015 budget contains the renaming of some ministries and the addition of new ones. The politician noted that opposition members would not only have to peruse the allocations for these agencies, but also for the ten administrative regions. “All of this will double up our work. We have never tried to prevent the other members when they were in opposition of the time they needed. This is unacceptable. It is trickery. I am asking you (Speaker) to declare this motion out of order. Let the schedule for deliberations be approved according to the norms and practices of this house,” the Opposition Chief whip appealed. But Teixeira was disappointed by the Speaker Dr. Barton Scotland’s decision. He said, “It seems to me that Text 73. 1 speaks of the maximum time and not the minimum time, and I find no fault with the motion presented.” When it was put to a vote, the opposition was obviously outnumbered and the motion was subsequently passed. This led to the Opposition orally demonstrating its anger as its members hurled insults at the government members. From every direction on the western side of the House, members shouted, “This is the transparency and accountability you speak of?” “This is bullyism!” “Where is the democracy?” The House was then called to order by the Speaker and the debates on the budget commenced. But the topic would raise its ugly head once again during the presentation of PPP Parliamentarian, Vindhya Persaud. An impassioned Persaud told the Government that she is disappointed in the request for reducing the time for the opposition to scrutinize the estimates. “Mr. Speaker, they don’t want to face our questions? Where is the democracy? I feel disheartened if this is how we will proceed in these early stages. God help us if this is how we are starting.” A team of opposition members later held a press conference in  Committee room two of the Parliament to speak once more on the matter among other pressing issues. The team emphasized that the government’s motion represents “the slaughter of democracy.”

FM

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Dictatorship is creeping in, and like in past PNC administrations, the Indian stooges are working hard to sell it as constitutional and in the interest of the all. We know the history of the PNC and their Indian political backers. No Indian in the PNC can go against any motion by the party without being punished. Freddie Kissoon confessed that Education Minister, Vincent Teekah, could not get him a job a UG because his hands were tied. Those days are coming back.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Dictatorship is creeping in, and like in past PNC administrations, the Indian stooges are working hard to sell it as constitutional and in the interest of the all. We know the history of the PNC and their Indian political backers. No Indian in the PNC can go against any motion by the party without being punished. Freddie Kissoon confessed that Education Minister, Vincent Teekah, could not get him a job a UG because his hands were tied. Those days are coming back.

I WILL SAY IT CLEARLY, MOSES AND RAMJHATTAN ARE THE WORST NEMAKARAM AND CRABDAAGS THIS WORLD HAS SEEN.  THESE SHAMELESS HOUSE SLAVES ARE A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY.  I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ARE HUMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

This is the kind of Government that Crabj backed and supported.

I  hope you are not surprise.  He is very HAPPY an Indian not Ruling Guyana .  He can now go to his maker in Peace.  He lived to see a Non Indian Rule Guyana and now he has his wish.

Nehru

You fellows have very short memories. That may be your dilemma. The PPP went to court to protect their right to exclude the opposition from assisting with budget creation. They maintained it was the sole prerogative of the administration.

 

The opposition, we were told, only have a right to reject the whole thing and not a specific line item with which they disagreed. Their pocket judge, Ian Chang, reached in his pocket to retrieved the ruling penned by the PPP and read the opposition that everything they say is indeed the case per the courts!

 

Reflect on that when you are presently throwing a tantrum and making all sorts of dire claims as to the state of democracy given the PPP are getting a dose of their own medicine.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:

You fellows have very short memories. That may be your dilemma. The PPP went to court to protect their right to exclude the opposition from assisting with budget creation. They maintained it was the sole prerogative of the administration.

 

The opposition, we were told, only have a right to reject the whole thing and not a specific line item with which they disagreed. Their pocket judge, Ian Chang, reached in his pocket to retrieved the ruling penned by the PPP and read the opposition that everything they say is indeed the case per the courts!

 

Reflect on that when you are presently throwing a tantrum and making all sorts of dire claims as to the state of democracy given the PPP are getting a dose of their own medicine.

The PPP lost the motion because they didn't turn up to vote.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Danyael:

You fellows have very short memories. That may be your dilemma. The PPP went to court to protect their right to exclude the opposition from assisting with budget creation. They maintained it was the sole prerogative of the administration.

 

The opposition, we were told, only have a right to reject the whole thing and not a specific line item with which they disagreed. Their pocket judge, Ian Chang, reached in his pocket to retrieved the ruling penned by the PPP and read the opposition that everything they say is indeed the case per the courts!

 

Reflect on that when you are presently throwing a tantrum and making all sorts of dire claims as to the state of democracy given the PPP are getting a dose of their own medicine.

The PPP lost the motion because they didn't turn up to vote.

Thanks for admitting the your PPP are losers.

Mitwah

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