VAT the people to pay the your Honorable Dictator pension.
The AFC will cut his pension. Simple.
bhagwan (Guest)
The KFC cant even wipe their own Batties.
NINCOMPOOPS, SHAMELESS POLITICAL PROSTITUTES!!!
NINCOMPOOPS, SHAMELESS POLITICAL PROSTITUTES!!!
quote:Originally posted by bhagwan:
VAT the people to pay the your Honorable Dictator pension.
The AFC will cut his pension. Simple.
bhagwan (Guest)
The members of the PPP wiping one another batty with the Daily Chronicle.
Former Member
Indeed it is, and if Ramjattan did sell 5 vehicles in breach of the concession, then the PPP could easily tell us which vehicles they are. albert?quote:Originally posted by D2:This is not only a lie; it is a damn lie.quote:Originally posted by asj:quote:*The privilege that MPs enjoy in accessing duty-free concession has been abused by Mr. Ramjattan. He has not used but sold five vehicles acquired under the duty free concession regime during his tenure as a parliamentarian.
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Former Member
Now now "Catherine". Your desperation shows; a desperation characteristic of one Ms Wikileaks in fear of losing $880,000 a month.quote:Originally posted by Catherine:
Ramjattan is a known liar. Case closed.
No judge will put him away for that misdemeanor....
Let us just hope that he and the rest of the AFC gang don't inspire violence in the streets,and then try to blame it on others.
Now, to clarify the Presidential pension issue, "Catherine", why not ask the President what his intended staff will be and at what cost, and how many and what types of vehicles he would like? Please further clarify to which buildings, whether his mansion (that includes a swimming pool) and office/s, he will apply the free telephone and electricity services to? Importantly too, please ask him to clarify who the family and dependants that are entitled to free medical treatment are, since the terms do not specify immediate family, but simply states family, which in Guyana can literally mean anyone. We need to know too if this medical treatment means overseas treatment as well.
Can you do that, "Catherine", then refute the estimated $3M per month? Yes?
Former Member
Thank you base.quote:Originally posted by baseman:quote:Originally posted by Nehru:
It shows TK, GR, Ramjattan and some other KFC People are as the President stated LIARS!!! For over a year now these Wachumucalldem have been broadcasting that the Pension is 180000 US per month(Go back and check their stinking Posts dont take my word). Well I know how DUNCE they are at Math so I will calculate it for them;
1/3 of 3000000 - 1000000
Appx rate of Exchange 200
1000000/ 200 = US 5000 per Month.
Economist said he passes Math, was it standard 4 Math???
This leaves out all the benefits and state funded support the rest of his life. It was always explained as such not that BJ receives cash USD 15k per month. The 5k is after all expenses are covered by the state, even certain amount of first-class air tickets per year to the UK. It is the PPP who are pulling wool over the eyes of the populace.
Former Member
the good ting is dat the Guyanese voters knows the AFC is a bunch of scamps..end ah story
Former Member
Guyanese know the PPP are a bunch of thieves. They knew those dhal belly folks when the only had the rice and not the dhalquote:Originally posted by SuperMike:
the good ting is dat the Guyanese voters knows the AFC is a bunch of scamps..end ah story
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by D2:
Guyanese know the PPP ..
.. and they will again vote the PPP/C into office with a majority.
Former Member
I dont doubt they will vote PPP; the Indian sheep that is. That much is predictable given who we are. That they will win a majority is the question none of us knows.quote:Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:quote:Originally posted by D2:
Guyanese know the PPP ..
.. and they will again vote the PPP/C into office with a majority.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by D2:
I dont doubt they will vote PPP;
Excellent.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by D2:
That they will win a majority is the question none of us knows.
That is where each has their views/predictions.
TK_REDUX (Guest)
Jagdeo’s Pension
OCTOBER 31, 2011 | BY KNEWS | FILED UNDER EDITORIAL
The Office of the President (OP) has responded to the claim made by Khemraj Ramjattan of the Alliance for Change (AFC) that President Jagdeo will be receiving a pension of $3 million per month.
The release from OP dubbed Mr Ramjattan “a compulsive liar” and claimed in turn that Mr Jagdeo will actually be receiving, “about one-third of that amount” – meaning about $1 million per month.
As best as we can verify, the statement from OP is technically correct – but only when the word “pension” is interpreted most narrowly and confine it to the monetary portion of the pension.
But this narrow definition is more notable for what it omits as what it states. There are sins of omission as well as sins of commission. First, we have to point out that the monetary payment is tax free: an ordinary citizen that earns that princely sum would have to part with $333,000 as taxes.
Then we have to include the benefits as enumerated by the “Former Presidents (Benefits and Other Facilities) Act No. 12”, which was passed in the first quarter of 2009 – under Jagdeo’s watch, we should note. These all obviously have a monetary value.
First, there is the “payment of water, electricity and telephone bills”. With the massive open air swimming pool that has to be cleaned and emptied rather frequently, the lawn that has to be watered and the other uses for water, we can conservatively estimate the water bill to be about $50,000 monthly.
Then there’s the electricity. Even when Amaila Falls come on stream, for a mansion the size of the Pradoville property, including the installed air conditioning and floodlights, we’re talking about another $300,000 monthly. Telephone bills for a man with Jagdeo’s international connections could easily run in another $100,000.
Next we move on to, “Services of personal and household staff including but not limited to an attendant and gardener”. Another $250,000 monthly? Remember he’ll need drivers for his vehicles – see below. What about “Services of an unspecified number of clerical and technical staff”? $400,000?
“Free medical treatment or reimbursement of medical expenses incurred by the (Presidents) for their own treatment or treatment of dependents” can easily run us another $200,000 monthly, since we know that individuals like the President will not be going to GHPC.
We can chalk up another $200,000 for “Full-time personal security and services of the Presidential Guard Service at their place of residence”. But it is the “The provision of a (unspecified) number of motor vehicles owned and maintained by the State” that takes the cake.
Jagdeo is used to moving around in Land Cruisers, Mercedes and BMW’s – and we note the plural nature of the “motor vehicles” to be made available. $500,000 monthly?
We’ve reached the additional $2 million that tops up the acknowledged $1 million cash payment to reach the claimed $3 million. And we have not even mentioned the “Annual vacation allowance equivalent to the cost of two first class return airfares”.
But with all the ostentatious demands on the public purse to the conservative estimate of $3 million per month, none displayed the mentality of Jagdeo more than this benefit he insisted on inserting into the legislation: “Toll free road transportation in Guyana”.
After benefits amounting to $3 million monthly, he still cannot pay road tolls? Berbician cannot walk across the Berbice Bridge; they have been denied waiving of the toll for schoolchildren, but an individual with $3 million in his pockets every month, gets a free pass?
In this editorial we have not touched upon the crucial point that was sought to be established in the debate surrounding the President’s pension: the comparison of the Presidents benefits with those of an ordinary pensioner.
The argument made is that Guyana, being a poor country, cannot afford more than $7500 monthly for the latter. So how do we justify $3 million monthly for the President? Surely we want our retired Presidents to live in dignity but is there no correlation with our means?
OCTOBER 31, 2011 | BY KNEWS | FILED UNDER EDITORIAL
The Office of the President (OP) has responded to the claim made by Khemraj Ramjattan of the Alliance for Change (AFC) that President Jagdeo will be receiving a pension of $3 million per month.
The release from OP dubbed Mr Ramjattan “a compulsive liar” and claimed in turn that Mr Jagdeo will actually be receiving, “about one-third of that amount” – meaning about $1 million per month.
As best as we can verify, the statement from OP is technically correct – but only when the word “pension” is interpreted most narrowly and confine it to the monetary portion of the pension.
But this narrow definition is more notable for what it omits as what it states. There are sins of omission as well as sins of commission. First, we have to point out that the monetary payment is tax free: an ordinary citizen that earns that princely sum would have to part with $333,000 as taxes.
Then we have to include the benefits as enumerated by the “Former Presidents (Benefits and Other Facilities) Act No. 12”, which was passed in the first quarter of 2009 – under Jagdeo’s watch, we should note. These all obviously have a monetary value.
First, there is the “payment of water, electricity and telephone bills”. With the massive open air swimming pool that has to be cleaned and emptied rather frequently, the lawn that has to be watered and the other uses for water, we can conservatively estimate the water bill to be about $50,000 monthly.
Then there’s the electricity. Even when Amaila Falls come on stream, for a mansion the size of the Pradoville property, including the installed air conditioning and floodlights, we’re talking about another $300,000 monthly. Telephone bills for a man with Jagdeo’s international connections could easily run in another $100,000.
Next we move on to, “Services of personal and household staff including but not limited to an attendant and gardener”. Another $250,000 monthly? Remember he’ll need drivers for his vehicles – see below. What about “Services of an unspecified number of clerical and technical staff”? $400,000?
“Free medical treatment or reimbursement of medical expenses incurred by the (Presidents) for their own treatment or treatment of dependents” can easily run us another $200,000 monthly, since we know that individuals like the President will not be going to GHPC.
We can chalk up another $200,000 for “Full-time personal security and services of the Presidential Guard Service at their place of residence”. But it is the “The provision of a (unspecified) number of motor vehicles owned and maintained by the State” that takes the cake.
Jagdeo is used to moving around in Land Cruisers, Mercedes and BMW’s – and we note the plural nature of the “motor vehicles” to be made available. $500,000 monthly?
We’ve reached the additional $2 million that tops up the acknowledged $1 million cash payment to reach the claimed $3 million. And we have not even mentioned the “Annual vacation allowance equivalent to the cost of two first class return airfares”.
But with all the ostentatious demands on the public purse to the conservative estimate of $3 million per month, none displayed the mentality of Jagdeo more than this benefit he insisted on inserting into the legislation: “Toll free road transportation in Guyana”.
After benefits amounting to $3 million monthly, he still cannot pay road tolls? Berbician cannot walk across the Berbice Bridge; they have been denied waiving of the toll for schoolchildren, but an individual with $3 million in his pockets every month, gets a free pass?
In this editorial we have not touched upon the crucial point that was sought to be established in the debate surrounding the President’s pension: the comparison of the Presidents benefits with those of an ordinary pensioner.
The argument made is that Guyana, being a poor country, cannot afford more than $7500 monthly for the latter. So how do we justify $3 million monthly for the President? Surely we want our retired Presidents to live in dignity but is there no correlation with our means?
The thread headlines suggest that the government has proven that Ramjattan is a liar, but the subsequent article, which is the source of headline, at no time makes any such bold claims.
This makes me wonder if DG is in fact the biggest liar in all of this.
This makes me wonder if DG is in fact the biggest liar in all of this.
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