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GPL takes new Wartsila engines on 50-mile journey to a one-mile destination

September 28, 2013, By Filed Under News, Source

 

Three Wartsila engines that Government hopes will meet growing electricity demands in Demerara and Berbice, until hydro power comes, have arrived in the country but it will be a huge challenge to move them to the West Demerara site.


Yesterday, at the John Fernandes Limited wharf in Georgetown, heavy duty cranes of the Dutch-registered ship, Merwedegracht, lifted the engines, valued at US$26M, to a barge, where they were secured.

 

GPL’s CEO, Bharat Dindyal

GPL’s CEO, Bharat Dindyal

 

Each engine weighs around 130 tonnes, making it impossible to be hauled across the aging Demerara Harbour Bridge.


Although the new power plant that is currently under construction at Vreed-en-Hoop, West Bank Demerara, is located one mile from John Fernandes wharf, across the Demerara River, the engines have to travel almost a day to Archies, an area about two miles of Parika. That is because there is no wharf at Vreed-en-Hoop and nowhere else on the West Coast Demerara area in which the barge can dock and the engines off-loaded.


The barge with the engines will be taken by sea to Archies, near Parika, then loaded onto trucks and driven back to Vreed en Hoop, a total distance of about 50 miles.


At Archies, a special access road has been repaired specifically to accommodate the transportation of the engines to Vreed-en-Hoop along the public road.


According to Bharat Dindyal, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Guyana Power and Light Inc (GPL), the moving of the engines to Vreed-en-Hoop had to be planned to the finest details.


A special truck will be moving the engine, one at a time to the new power station at Vreed-en-Hoop.


However, GPL is not taking any chances. It will have teams of its workers, and personnel from the Ministry of Public Works and the Guyana Telephone and Telegraph (GT&T) to follow the truck and each of the engines from Archies to Vreed-en-Hoop.


With many road bridges along the way and each built to accommodate only 50 tonnes, far less than the 130 tonnes Wartsila engines, special equipment (called flyover bridge) to lay over them will also be used to prevent any mishaps and damage.


The 8.6 megawatts engines, which will make it 17 that Wartsila will have operating for GPL countrywide, are by far the biggest of the lot.


On its arrival at the site at Vreed-en-Hoop, special foundation with hundreds of piles, have been built and the engines will be transferred to these.


Also arriving yesterday were five large tanks that will hold oil, water and other materials critical to the running of the new power plant. At the John Fernandes wharf yesterday was Prime Minister Sam Hinds, who has responsibilities for energy.


According to Dindyal, foundation works are halfway through at the new power plant with over 800 piles to be driven. Almost 300 more still have to be driven.

 

The three Wartsila engine, valued US$26M, on board a barge that will take it today to Parika.

The three Wartsila engine, valued US$26M, on board a barge that will take it today to Parika.

 

In addition to two storage tanks, the new power station will have its own wharf to accommodate a fuel vessel. BK International has been awarded a $242M contract for this.


The construction site, being built on a sea dam, has been the most difficult of all sites for GPL, the CEO claimed. In addition to heavy foundation, piles as long as 72 in some instances have to be used, and these were imported.


When commissioned in April next year, the 26 megawatts engines are expected to boost GPL’s firm capacity to 106 megawatts. The extra power, which GPL is glad for, will also benefit Berbice when a power cable across the Berbice River is hooked sometime in the near future.


Guyana is struggling to meet increasing demand for power as new housing schemes and business continue to grow.


Prime Minister Hinds was hopeful that the new engines may be the last of investments of its kind until the arrival of hydro power.

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Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha


Bhai, I build Hydro and Aero systems. I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems. Just use ur head if one of those genset goes down think how many households gonna be out of power. And the machines will go down just like how Guyana recieves an annual flood.  

S
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha


Bhai, I build Hydro and Aero systems. I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems. Just use ur head if one of those genset goes down think how many households gonna be out of power. And the machines will go down just like how Guyana recieves an annual flood.  

I am so happy you are not working for GPL or Con Edison.

Nehru
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

FM
Originally Posted by seignet:

I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems.

Guyana Government builds small plants in local areas. It has also studied about seventy sites with varying power potential.

 

The focus is to develop a reasonable size hydroelectric power project to serve the needs for most Guyanese.

FM
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha


Bhai, I build Hydro and Aero systems. I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems.

Micro systems are all well and good as a short-term gap-filler solution.  However, operating costs are higher in the long term.

FM

Look if you will criticize do so with some kind of reasonable basis.

 

I see nothing wrong with the Wartsilla engines purchase or no data to show me why they are not appropriate and I understand the difficulty of completing a project like this.

 

What I do worry about is the competence of Dindyal and the PPP to get a project like this done. Skeldon, Marriot and the running of the country in general is a good representation of the failures that are running this country. 

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Let us all PRAY for the safe journey and fast installment of these needed Wartsila Engines.

you praying what  a thiefman know about praying 

Thiefman and communists find god when they are in a sling.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Look if you will criticize do so with some kind of reasonable basis.

 

I see nothing wrong with the Wartsilla engines purchase or no data to show me why they are not appropriate and I understand the difficulty of completing a project like this.

 

What I do worry about is the competence of Dindyal and the PPP to get a project like this done. Skeldon, Marriot and the running of the country in general is a good representation of the failures that are running this country. 

He is on he ground implementing, you are in the internet offering critical but benign keyboard advise.  Now, start worrying about yourself and not the man.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

You seem to lack the understanding of the meaning observation versus advice. The english language is a wonderful thing if you understand it.

Doesn't matter, your observation/advise is of immaterial consequence in reality.  Hope you understand that!

FM
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha


Bhai, I build Hydro and Aero systems. I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems. Just use ur head if one of those genset goes down think how many households gonna be out of power. And the machines will go down just like how Guyana recieves an annual flood.  

Great, so let's extrapolate on your theory, similar to the methods used when proving theorems.  If smaller generators are the answer then why not take it a step further and let everyone have their own generator? Isn't this the ultimate solution to blackouts? If your neighbor's generator fails it does not affect your supply of electricity. Forget about the efficiency gained by running larger machines.   

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

Baseman, do you think it is wise to concentrate all major developments in Demerara? Berbice is left to the mercies of the decisions made in Demerara.

I think it would have been wise for the Corentyne to have a power station rather running miles of expense cables and sustain the power losses due the transmission.

 

Oh, this diaspora thing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs promoting is only a farce-just to show that they valuable outsiders input. 

S
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha


Bhai, I build Hydro and Aero systems. I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems. Just use ur head if one of those genset goes down think how many households gonna be out of power. And the machines will go down just like how Guyana recieves an annual flood.  

Great, so let's extrapolate on your theory, similar to the methods used when proving theorems.  If smaller generators are the answer then why not take it a step further and let everyone have their own generator? Isn't this the ultimate solution to blackouts? If your neighbor's generator fails it does not affect your supply of electricity. Forget about the efficiency gained by running larger machines.   

Fella, I am not talking about that type of generators. Up to date technologies are not suited for all societies. One can over buy that which is necessary.

From time to time, I make purchases of CNC machines worth US$375,000.00. Most salesmen would encourage me to spend US$500,000.00 to buy machines that have rapid speeds, claiming I would save seconds and it will add up into savings. Such decision would be great if I was running the machine 24hours per day 7days a week.

 

What I am attempting to say, simply, it depends on the use, environment and demands. The situation dictates the techonology. I worked in a power generating station before-Blairmont.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

Baseman, do you think it is wise to concentrate all major developments in Demerara? Berbice is left to the mercies of the decisions made in Demerara.

I think it would have been wise for the Corentyne to have a power station rather running miles of expense cables and sustain the power losses due the transmission.

 

Oh, this diaspora thing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs promoting is only a farce-just to show that they valuable outsiders input. 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Now you are an expert on generating electricity. hahahaha


Bhai, I build Hydro and Aero systems. I even try to sell GOG the idea of micro systems.

Micro systems are all well and good as a short-term gap-filler solution.  However, operating costs are higher in the long term.

The word micro does not mean mini in this case. Hydro systems similar to Moco Moco are not expensive to operate. Poorly built, caused the pen-stock to crumble.

S
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

Baseman, do you think it is wise to concentrate all major developments in Demerara? Berbice is left to the mercies of the decisions made in Demerara.

I think it would have been wise for the Corentyne to have a power station rather running miles of expense cables and sustain the power losses due the transmission.

 

Oh, this diaspora thing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs promoting is only a farce-just to show that they valuable outsiders input. 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

The machines are purchased already, the decision was to provide consumers with electricity and to boost production. Perhaps, a petro plant is needed as well. Let me c, buy some gensets to process the crude oil.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

Baseman, do you think it is wise to concentrate all major developments in Demerara? Berbice is left to the mercies of the decisions made in Demerara.

I think it would have been wise for the Corentyne to have a power station rather running miles of expense cables and sustain the power losses due the transmission.

 

Oh, this diaspora thing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs promoting is only a farce-just to show that they valuable outsiders input. 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

The machines are purchased already, the decision was to provide consumers with electricity and to boost production. Perhaps, a petro plant is needed as well. Let me c, buy some gensets to process the crude oil.

You are all over the place.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

Baseman, do you think it is wise to concentrate all major developments in Demerara? Berbice is left to the mercies of the decisions made in Demerara.

I think it would have been wise for the Corentyne to have a power station rather running miles of expense cables and sustain the power losses due the transmission.

 

Oh, this diaspora thing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs promoting is only a farce-just to show that they valuable outsiders input. 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

The machines are purchased already, the decision was to provide consumers with electricity and to boost production. Perhaps, a petro plant is needed as well. Let me c, buy some gensets to process the crude oil.

You are all over the place.

Then I will get back to work and be creative in my own right and make money.

S
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:

Ow, these stupid ppl. Several smaller machines would have done the job. Now when one goes down, a sizable portion of the consumer will be blackout.

Why don't you go and offer you "invaluable" expertize on the subject matter.  However, one could wonder if they did not study these logistical aspects operations.

Baseman, do you think it is wise to concentrate all major developments in Demerara? Berbice is left to the mercies of the decisions made in Demerara.

I think it would have been wise for the Corentyne to have a power station rather running miles of expense cables and sustain the power losses due the transmission.

 

Oh, this diaspora thing the Ministry of Foreign Affairs promoting is only a farce-just to show that they valuable outsiders input. 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

The machines are purchased already, the decision was to provide consumers with electricity and to boost production. Perhaps, a petro plant is needed as well. Let me c, buy some gensets to process the crude oil.

You are all over the place.

Confirmed. Baseman is a door knob. QED.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

The machines are purchased already, the decision was to provide consumers with electricity and to boost production. Perhaps, a petro plant is needed as well. Let me c, buy some gensets to process the crude oil.

You are all over the place.

Confirmed. Baseman is a door knob. QED.

Very valuable input.  I have always underestimated your intellect.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

What does that have to do with these two engines?  Isn't that what this represent anyway? In the absence of the Hydro, it does make sense for a regional solution, that is true.

The machines are purchased already, the decision was to provide consumers with electricity and to boost production. Perhaps, a petro plant is needed as well. Let me c, buy some gensets to process the crude oil.

You are all over the place.

Confirmed. Baseman is a door knob. QED.

Very valuable input.  I have always underestimated your intellect.

BTW, I have my own Delco due to the frequent blackouts in Berbice. Where are the developments is Berbice?

Mitwah

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