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High hopes turn to disappointment

– after a year of APNU+AFC in government

 

Once high hopes for the David Granger administration have dissipated after a year in office, with various members of civil society expressing disappointment at the government’s performance, saying it has embraced the system it once criticised and the expected transformation has not been delivered.

“The government has begun to use the same system that it was fighting against when it was in opposition,” said Troy Thomas, the head of local transparency body, Transparency Institute of Guyana (TIGI). In a series of interviews with Stabroek News, other members of civil society expressed similar sentiments saying that much more was expected, the performance of the government is “disappointing” and it is showing signs of disconnect from the populace.

“In their public interactions and in their statements, they’re not sufficiently different from the last government. They certainly are not as different as they suggested they would be when they were campaigning,” rights activist Karen de Souza told Stabroek News. “Much was expected of this government. They certainly raised lots of hopes and I would say they have ended up disappointing a lot of those hopes that were focused on them,” she added. “There are some positions that the…to continue reading this article, please subscribe.  Already a subscriber ? Sign In.

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High hopes turn to disappointment

– after a year of APNU+AFC in government

May 15, 2016 Source

Once high hopes for the David Granger administration have dissipated after a year in office, with various members of civil society expressing disappointment at the government’s performance, saying it has embraced the system it once criticised and the expected transformation has not been delivered.

“The government has begun to use the same system that it was fighting against when it was in opposition,” said Troy Thomas, the head of local transparency body, Transparency Institute of Guyana (TIGI). In a series of interviews with Stabroek News, other members of civil society expressed similar sentiments saying that much more was expected, the performance of the government is “disappointing” and it is showing signs of disconnect from the populace.

“In their public interactions and in their statements, they’re not sufficiently different from the last government. They certainly are not as different as they suggested they would be when they were campaigning,” rights activist Karen de Souza told Stabroek News. “Much was expected of this government. They certainly raised lots of hopes and I would say they have ended up disappointing a lot of those hopes that were focused on them,” she added. “There are some positions that the coalition government has taken that are disappointing. The Guyanese who voted for them would have voted with the hope that there will be changes and improvement in the governance system but I think quite early on…. they seemed to be not quite [sure] how to do this,” said rights advocate Laura George. “They made some blunders early on in their administration,” she said citing the “huge” ministerial pay hike and the justification which she said was an insult to the Guyanese nation.

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“I have seen the distress of many who have voted for the coalition and who are very disappointed,” rights activist Vidyaratha Kissoon said. “National unity is as it was before May 2015. Crime continues, people who are robbed, [and are] dealing with murder and violence do not appreciate statistics. There are reports of inconsistent police response to reports of domestic violence and sexual offences. Some people get treated badly or with contempt still,” he asserted.

APNU+AFC leader David Granger was sworn in as President of Guyana on May 16 last year having won the May 11, 2015 general elections on the slimmest of margins to end 22 years of PPP/C rule. Having promised transformational “change” during and after the campaign, there were high hopes that the coalition would have moved swiftly to deliver on its promises. However, a year later, notwithstanding a few bright spots, there is a growing sentiment that it has failed to deliver on a number of fronts including inclusiveness, accountability, the economic sphere, fighting crime, among other areas.

‘Grade C’

Thomas told Stabroek News that he would give the government a “Grade C” even as some of his colleagues think this is generous. However, he said they still have some hope that they would be able to see a transformation of society. “The government has to look at transformation of society more closely,” he asserted while adding that it will be evaluated more on what it has done to transform society than on the building of infrastructure, which is an expected function of any government. Thomas and several others commended the government for several initiatives including the holding of local government elections, which he said signals commitment to local democracy development. “That sort of empowerment of the communities is a major step,” the TIGI head said. Other moves which were hailed included cleaning up the city, the enactment of anti-money laundering legislation, and moves to join the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative which was started under the previous PPP/C administration. However, on many fronts, the coalition failed to meet expectations. In giving a Grade C to the coalition’s performance for their first year in office, Thomas said he is not sure that he is seeing a commitment to transparency and accountability or steps being taken for anti-corruption measures. He noted that institutional trust is still relatively high at this stage but it is uncertain as to whether this is inspired by this administration or by the removal of the previous administration from office.

Thomas highlighted a number of issues including the controversial selection of the Fedders Lloyd firm for the construction of the Specialty Hospital, the little consultation on plans for D’Urban Park, and the delay in formalising a code of conduct for ministers and other government officials. “Why is there hesitation on it?” he questioned. “Why is it just sitting there and not being implemented?” The TIGI head also highlighted the series of audits done on state institutions and government’s failure to act on the recommendations which, among other things, has included the filing of criminal charges or disciplinary action against officials who have allegedly broken the law. “They need to move beyond this stage and do something about it,” he declared.

‘Three-card trick’

De Souza too was critical of government’s inaction in this regard. “It’s almost like playing… some kind of three-card trick or something because all these talks about audits… and the slow release of findings of problems of corruption, of unprofessional behaviour and so forth but then nothing happens so what’s the point?” she questioned.

“There is corruption. Are we going to address the corruption? Is the government planning to address the corruption or what? So the way in which information is released and the way in which the government over the year has released information and continues to release information, opens the space for suspicion, for, I don’t know, dismissal. What’s the point? You continue saying this and you’re not doing anything so just shut up already,” she asserted.

Thomas questioned what the government is doing to change the system that fosters and promotes corruption. In this light, he recalled government’s refusal to release the names of donors to the campaign while also pointing out that Minister of State Joseph Harmon had essentially admitted to patronage and was defended by the government. These actions, the TIGI head said, do not foster accountability and transparency. He noted that both of the major parties are not likely to be in favour of campaign financing legislation because it is not in their interest.

The administration, Thomas said, has not demonstrated the commitment to changing the system while it has even regarded citizens with contempt in some instances. He highlighted the case of Harmon’s “no apology” in relation to the huge raise in government ministers’ salaries last year. He recalled that it wasn’t until a month later after various defences of the salary increase by government officials that Harmon apologised. “I see that as a face-saving mechanism,” Thomas said. He also cited the alleged censorship at the state newspaper the Guyana Chronicle. The Granger administration has begun to use the same system that it was fighting against when it was in opposition, he charged.

Meantime, de Souza noted that various ministers have been doing their own assessments of their first year performance and congratulating themselves, but she does not agree that they have done well. She highlighted the inaccessibility of ministers saying that while they do not necessarily have to see everybody who wants to see them, there are too many legitimate complaints of how inaccessible the ministers are. However, she added that from her own perspective, the ministers that she and her organisation sought to engage, with have been quite open and accessible. Kissoon noted that some ministers are working better than others, and some are more responsive to public concerns than others.

Meantime, de Souza highlighted that the two budgets passed so far have not catered to the poor while there seemed to be a disconnect between words and deeds.

“I find it really disheartening because the whole campaign and in fact the force of the campaign was very working class, very grassroots, and what we’ve seen so far…is a very neo-liberal economic plan, very pro-business. In the last two budgets there has been very little for poor people, very little for grassroots people, for single mothers,” she said.

Kissoon highlighted the difficulty in finding jobs. “This week two bright young people spoke in despair about not being able to find jobs as all their applications were rejected,” he related.

“There seems to me still to be a disconnect between the President’s utterances about social cohesion and the need to work together and so forth and the expressions of other ministers and actually the practice of the government in a number of different respects…you are saying you want this but your behaviour does not imply that you want it or that you are working towards it and that is disappointing,” de Souza added.

She also highlighted that the Ministry of Social Protection has been extremely disappointing in dealing with protection of women and children. She said policy documents are still to be produced a year later and “nothing has really moved forward” on work to implement and ensure the adequate implementation of protective laws for domestic violence, sexual offences and child protection issues.

Kissoon said the administration does not seem to have any urgency in dealing with sexual offences or with domestic violence. “I would have expected the President to convene the National Task force for the Prevention of Sexual Offences,” he said.

He, George and de Souza highlighted Minister of Social Protection Volda Lawrence’s characterization of a situation of child abuse as being a family affair. De Souza said this is “totally unacceptable” and she does not see any way that this can be explained away. “It is an insult to the victims who have to endure the trauma, it is an injustice to them,” George declared while saying that people including children continue to suffer.

“There is a deep weakness in this particular social area,” de Souza said while pointing to several other questionable decisions. “It’s playing games with serious affairs,” she charged. “We are all looking at form, sometimes very faulty form, and the content is missing and that is not good enough,” she declared.

“These are people who’ve been in opposition for a number of years so they’ve been studying these issues or should have been so they should have entered government with a better plan for how they were going to proceed and unfortunately it is really disappointing,” she added. “All-in-all, I would say that they are not presenting as sufficiently different from the last government to satisfy my expectations,” she said.

Meantime, as it relates to crime, Kissoon observed that the police are charging some persons but said the justice system needs an overhaul. “More work has to be done on crime prevention. I do not get a sense of alternatives,” he said.

“It is alarming that in a tiny population like ours that the crime situation in Guyana seems to go unabated,” George said.

Disappointing

She noted that as it relates to indigenous peoples, the administration is continuing the ways of the previous administration. “It is just wrong to hear the argument that we have inherited it and we have to carry it through,” she said. The activist pointed out that current officials who once criticised the Amerindian Act are now saying that they inherited it and have to work with it. “I think there is a lack of strategic, substantial plans for indigenous peoples,” she asserted.

“I strongly believe Guyanese are disappointed with the government,” she declared, saying that people suffered as a result of corruption under the previous administration but the Granger administration seems to not be taking action.

Kissoon echoed similar sentiments as the others with whom Stabroek News spoke saying that the people, especially young people have been disappointed for various reasons. He highlighted the ministers’ salary hike and nothing or just a little for public servants, the lack of attention being paid to Lawrence and her defence of an alleged child molester, the poor treatment of the Wales Sugar Estate workers, and the poor treatment of the vendors around the Stabroek Market. He said there is a lot of “I did not vote for this” and “but is good dat de PPP gone.” He emphasised that a lot of work remains to be done.

Meantime, in terms of how the performance thus far of the government would impact its support, de Souza said that this is hard to say because of the ethnic divisions in this country. To illustrate, she cited the ministers’ pay hike which she said very few people would not see something wrong with it. “The supporters of the coalition government who disagreed with that action would not come out and publicly disagree with the action because that is to criticise the government publicly… and that’s not different from the position we had under the last government in which supporters may not like the action but they’re not coming out and say so, they’re not standing up to say so publicly because that is to, I suppose in a very backward sense, weaken the government,” she said. “So that is where we are and I think it is still true given the ethnic divisions, and given the ways in which people exercise their franchise that the behaviour of the government may be as arrogant as it is because… like the last government, they don’t see that it will have an impact on their support because the population still votes along ethnic lines,” she added.

“And it is sad, you know, particularly when we want to talk about social cohesion and unity and all kinds of things, we still have, you know, a fair bit of petulance in the face of criticism however justified the criticism might be,” de Souza added.

She said the actions of the government may have a little impact on supporters but she is not certain as to whether it will have a heavy impact. “What I’m sure about is that they’re not going to win any more friends than they have at the moment unless things change considerably,” the activist declared.


Here is the full article bhai kp,suh the watch bodies are Granger people?

Django

In my humble opinion, this government has made some blunders, some serious ones too,  but I think we have to remember that it has only been in office for one year now. It is too early to form a judgment and make a firm judgment, especially since the previous government was in office for 23 years. That is a long time for a government to be in office, so changes may take some time to come. 

Also, from what I am reading here,  the people interviewed here do not represent the "man on the street" the "ordinary" people who may chare a different opinion.

Anyone care to share their opinions?? 

V

Granger is good for giving himself A+ grade for failures. As a matter of fact, he don't cares about his reputation going under since he has two house slaves that are willing to take poison for him.

Since Ramjattan received the Rodney CoI report, he changed his tune to avoid a fall out with the PNC. That's to show what is more important in his mind.

FM

The assessment of these activists is that the coalition gov't is as BAD AS, not worse than the PPP.

They wanted a government different from that of the PPP.  Their assessment is that this gov't is no different.

The brown bai KKK have had their brains poisoned by that toxic PPP food which they eat that they don't understand that this doesn't make their point that APNU AFC is worse than the PPP.

They have YET to prove that the PPP was a better gov't.

FM

So the ones who supported the PNC are finally coming out of the woodwork and admitting their error, but they are still holding on to hope that corruption will be reduced and development will commence. So far we have seen contraction in the economy as banks report reduction of revenues, due to a sharp fall off of people seeking loans, a sign of no confidence in the economy.  People like CaribJ, Gilly, Mitwah, Django and others still hoping against hope as they now change their tune from "better than PPP" to "no worse than PPP". This is a serious compromise, it is as if they impulsively married an ugly spouse after a night of binge drinking but are ashamed to get an annulment in the morning when they wake up and realize their error. 

FM

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

Mitwah
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Drugb posted:

So the ones who supported the PNC are finally coming out of the woodwork and admitting their error, but they are still holding on to hope that corruption will be reduced and development will commence. So far we have seen contraction in the economy as banks report reduction of revenues, due to a sharp fall off of people seeking loans, a sign of no confidence in the economy.  People like CaribJ, Gilly, Mitwah, Django and others still hoping against hope as they now change their tune from "better than PPP" to "no worse than PPP". This is a serious compromise, it is as if they impulsively married an ugly spouse after a night of binge drinking but are ashamed to get an annulment in the morning when they wake up and realize their error. 

"Ask most Guyanese and they all have a story as to the affordability of many of those massive structures – finished and stalled – that dot the skyline of Georgetown. It is a public secret that most Guyanese think that the funding of those edifices were only possible through ill-gotten gains. But now that things are financially tightening in Guyana, there are those who are clamoring for things to go back to the days “when the drugs were flowing.”
And what is very telling about the clarion calls for a return to the “old days”, is that the calls are also coming from religious people. There are practicing church, mosque and temple goers who are saying that Guyana needs a financial shot in the arm, and that if drugs is what it takes, then “let it flow!”
When I hear those remarks I cringe, for it is obvious that those calling for the “drugs to flow” do not understand the magnitude of the horrors that drugs cause. Drugs turn women into prostitutes and men into junkies. Drugs eat away at one’s brain cells and retard you for life. Drugs create a violent culture where many of its victims are viciously murdered. Drugs negatively affect the academic performances of huge portions of some communities."

Pastor Wendell P. Jeffrey
Practical Christianity Ministries

https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/wo...o-apnu-afc-coalition


Oii Drugd what this pastor saying here bhai,looks like some of the success of the economy under the previous gov't was fueled by illegal means,is this why they were stalling the DEA office, anti money laundering legislation ...etc

Django
Mitwah posted:

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

Mitwah... you think it will start before the next election? I agree that the govt does not have much to show. Just getting a grip of the crime situation would be a big plus.

Whoever think the rampant corruption under the PPP was better must be missing the perks.

A
Bibi Haniffa posted:

If you think the PPP was not a better Gov't then you need a detox.  Like Senna Pod and Salzzzzzz!!!

And yet you cannot provide specifics.

I know you can no longer scream "ahbe pan tap", but that fact is irrelevant.

General commentary is that it is no different. Given that most, even those who voted PPP, out of ethnic fear, were not satisfied with them, this is not what people wanted.

But to say that the PPP was better.  Pure BS. 

Like they say "this is exchange, not change".

 

FM
Drugb posted:

So the ones who supported the PNC are finally coming out of the woodwork and admitting their error, but they are still holding on to hope that corruption will be reduced and development will commence. So far we have seen contraction in the economy as banks report reduction of revenues, due to a sharp fall off of people seeking loans, a sign of no confidence in the economy.  People like CaribJ, Gilly, Mitwah, Django and others still hoping against hope as they now change their tune from "better than PPP" to "no worse than PPP". This is a serious compromise, it is as if they impulsively married an ugly spouse after a night of binge drinking but are ashamed to get an annulment in the morning when they wake up and realize their error. 

Even before the election, this was beginning to happen. Gold revenues were dropping.  Mortgage defaults were already beginning to increase, and it was obvious that the real estate sector was in a bubble.

You cannot cite what the PPP did, that APNU didn't do.

FM
Mitwah posted:

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

At this point any one to be hauled before the courts would be from the Coalition. So the best Granger has done is to push back Maduro of Venezuela, he talk FAT then they lost the rice contract, Who is the Burro and Who is the JACKASS.

K
Mitwah posted:

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

Hey Knucklehead...."no one was hauled before the courts"

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe,  no one was guilty and it was probably all a hype by the coalition forces??? 

V
kp posted:
 he talk FAT then they lost the rice contract,

This morning we are hearing that Venezuela is on the brink of collapse. Hugely indebted, and now cut off from global capital markets.  An economy which is priced at oil at over $100, when it is now at $45.

No one supplying that sad nation, as it is broke and cannot pay them.

And you want Guyana to sell them rice.

Granger did a good thing, whether he intended to or not.

FM
VishMahabir posted:
,  no one was guilty and it was probably all a hype by the coalition forces??? 

The notion that no one is guilty is a laugh.  More likely that if they drag the PPP to court, they will open their mouths, and we will find out that certain APNU, or AFC folks got little scraps. 

Until recently many thought that the PPP would never lose, and so its possible that some got scraps, thinking that they would never have to answer for it.

FM
caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:
,  no one was guilty and it was probably all a hype by the coalition forces??? 

The notion that no one is guilty is a laugh.  More likely that if they drag the PPP to court, they will open their mouths, and we will find out that certain APNU, or AFC folks got little scraps. 

Until recently many thought that the PPP would never lose, and so its possible that some got scraps, thinking that they would never have to answer for it.

Apart from a few minor infractions, no one was even charged, much less prosecuted, much less proven.  The claims of the PNC/AFC was all lies and hype just like the WMD fiasco.  I fault the PPP for not refuting these lies earlier and robust.  However, almost everything which came from the PNC/AFC were lies and concoctions.  They should be ashmed, but then again, look who it is, the mother of all crooks!!

FM

Baseman, Dont tell dat to the GNI Dummies. Most still think the KFC Chicken Fryers are independent.  When yuh DUMB yuh done DUMB.  Even Brain replacement cant help these FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
Mitwah posted:

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

Low expectations create low standards. 

Bibi Haniffa
VishMahabir posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

Hey Knucklehead...."no one was hauled before the courts"

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe,  no one was guilty and it was probably all a hype by the coalition forces??? 

There is still time for gathering the evidence. Sit tight.

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is poor journalism. The question was put forward in the negative. Hence the negative response. The question should be put to the man in the street and in a positive manner.

President Granger bravely pushed back the bully Madburro of Venezuela without firing one bullet. Jagdeo on the other hand was cowering and ready to give away half of the country.

This Coalition has done very well in their first year in office, all things considered.

I am disappointed that after one year no one has been hauled before the courts. But the real fight aint start yet. Stay tuned!

Low expectations create low standards. 

Some are already squealing. Sit tight! Camp street is overcrowded.

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Same thing you said when you told everyone that Jagdeo would be in jail a year ago.

We sitting tight!!  Tight!!

I never said such thing about Jagdeo. He is above the law in Guyana.

Mitwah
ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:
,  no one was guilty and it was probably all a hype by the coalition forces??? 

The notion that no one is guilty is a laugh.  More likely that if they drag the PPP to court, they will open their mouths, and we will find out that certain APNU, or AFC folks got little scraps. 

Until recently many thought that the PPP would never lose, and so its possible that some got scraps, thinking that they would never have to answer for it.

Apart from a few minor infractions, no one was even charged, much less prosecuted, much less proven.  The claims of the PNC/AFC was all lies and hype just like the WMD fiasco.  I fault the PPP for not refuting these lies earlier and robust.  However, almost everything which came from the PNC/AFC were lies and concoctions.  They should be ashmed, but then again, look who it is, the mother of all crooks!!

Indeed.

FM
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Same thing you said when you told everyone that Jagdeo would be in jail a year ago.

We sitting tight!!  Tight!!

I never said such thing about Jagdeo. He is above the law in Guyana.

No one is above the law.  You are lying now.  And you were lying then.  And you will be lying again tomorrow.

 

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Same thing you said when you told everyone that Jagdeo would be in jail a year ago.

We sitting tight!!  Tight!!

I never said such thing about Jagdeo. He is above the law in Guyana.

No one is above the law.  You are lying now.  And you were lying then.  And you will be lying again tomorrow.

 

You are a shameless bare faced pathological liar. You have lost your credibility.

Mitwah
VishMahabir posted:

In my humble opinion, this government has made some blunders, some serious ones too,  but I think we have to remember that it has only been in office for one year now. It is too early to form a judgment and make a firm judgment, especially since the previous government was in office for 23 years. That is a long time for a government to be in office, so changes may take some time to come. 

Also, from what I am reading here,  the people interviewed here do not represent the "man on the street" the "ordinary" people who may chare a different opinion.

Anyone care to share their opinions?? 

True deh, dem gatt 27 years more before dem kech up with the times!!  

FM
ba$eman posted:
 

  The claims of the PNC/AFC was all lies and hype just like the WMD fiasco.

In 2011 you were a fervent Nagamootoo AFC.  When I said that the AFC isn't going to get 30%, you screamed that "my" PNC was going to get fewer votes.  When I told you that the PNC were dumb and lazy, so wouldn't get more than 30% either, you wailed that I am drinking PPP milk.

Why did you support the AFC election in 2011?  Because you said that the PPP was corrupt.

So go haul your KKK ass.

FM
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

When people who call themselves advisor promote hate and division in a country, we are doomed.

I agree. 

When Jagdeo has advisors telling him to call the PPP "a coolie people party". 

To scream that Moses is not an Indian, simply because he said he was a Guyanese. 

And after the LGE boasting that the PPP "consolidated the East Indian support base", with further claims that they didn't have time to bother about black, mixed or Amerindian voters.

Yes, Jagdeo is a very divisive man.

FM
caribny posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

When people who call themselves advisor promote hate and division in a country, we are doomed.

I agree. 

When Jagdeo has advisors telling him to call the PPP "a coolie people party". 

To scream that Moses is not an Indian, simply because he said he was a Guyanese. 

And after the LGE boasting that the PPP "consolidated the East Indian support base", with further claims that they didn't have time to bother about black, mixed or Amerindian voters.

Yes, Jagdeo is a very divisive man.

Please post the link were Jagdeo said that.  Rememnber you said Guyana is for Blacks only!!

FM
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caribny posted:

The assessment of these activists is that the coalition gov't is as BAD AS, not worse than the PPP.

They wanted a government different from that of the PPP.  Their assessment is that this gov't is no different.

The brown bai KKK have had their brains poisoned by that toxic PPP food which they eat that they don't understand that this doesn't make their point that APNU AFC is worse than the PPP.

They have YET to prove that the PPP was a better gov't.

Here again you twisting things to abet your argument bai.

The problem is that this Coalition government and its supporters promised to be better than the PPP. After one year, they are contend with admitting that they are no better than the PPP. By the end of the term, they will have no other alternative than to accept that they are/were basically hapless and shouldn't even be considered worthy of governance.

FM
ba$eman posted:
 

Please post the link were Jagdeo said that.  Rememnber you said Guyana is for Blacks only!!

Please state when I said that.   Yes, you love to lie about that, as you seek to justify your racist claims about blacks.

Before the election Rohee agreed with Jagdeo that the PPP is a coolie people party. 

During the election, the PPP's main plank was the lie that Moses said that he wasn't an Indian. 

After the LGE Jagdeo boasted that the PPP had consolidated its East Indian support base, and whined that it didn't have the time, or the resource to broaden its appeal.

One can only wonder why after 23 years in power, Jagdeo thinks that getting votes from non Indians is such an arduous task.

Face it your PPP thinks that it is a coolie people party.

FM
ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

The assessment of these activists is that the coalition gov't is as BAD AS, not worse than the PPP.

They wanted a government different from that of the PPP.  Their assessment is that this gov't is no different.

The brown bai KKK have had their brains poisoned by that toxic PPP food which they eat that they don't understand that this doesn't make their point that APNU AFC is worse than the PPP.

They have YET to prove that the PPP was a better gov't.

Here again you twisting things to abet your argument bai.

The problem is that this Coalition government and its supporters promised to be better than the PPP.

And their supporters think that they are as bad as the PPP.

Their supporters are saying that they voted for CHANGE, not EXCHANGE. They didn't vote for the coalition gov't to go and do what the PPP did.

I challenge you to find any statement by those who voted against the PPP that they think that the PPP was better.

Can you explain why, if people think that the coalition is the same as the PPP, why they will feel that the PPP deserves to govern, and not the coalition?  

I know as an Indian you might think so, but the vast majority of those who voted for the coalition don't agree with you.

It will make more sense for you to surmise that people think that the entire political process is a waste, given that it throws up two parties which are incompetent, and corrupt, and possibly racist (definitely in the case of the PPP, as we have had 23 years to see this).

FM
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