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Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo has been invited to a meeting with President David Granger later this month to continue consultations regarding the appointment of a Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (Gecom), but up to press time last night there was no word on Jagdeo’s response.

The letter, written by Minister of State Joseph Harmon yesterday, refers to statements Jagdeo made in the press the previous day, but did not spell them out. Jagdeo had warned that there would be “a fight” if Granger handpicked a candidate outside of his (Jagdeo’s) list of nominees.

In the letter, Harmon said, “I write on behalf of his Excellency…with res-pect to the appointment of a Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission in accordance with the Con-stitution of the Cooperative Republic of Guyana.

“Having regard to statements attributable to you in the media referring to His Excellency’s letter dated 2017-06-02, I am instructed by His Excellency to invite you to a consultation on Monday 12th June 2017, at 18:00 hrs at State House, Georgetown.”

Stabroek News was unable to make contact with Jagdeo yesterday.

It was revealed on Friday that Granger had rejected Jagdeo’s second list submitted on May 2. This list comprised retired judges BS Roy and William Ramlal, attorneys Oneidge Walrond-Allicock, Nadia Sagar and Kashir Khan and businessman Gerry Gouveia in keeping with certain criteria outlined by Granger. The first list was submitted in January, but was rejected.

“I have examined the Curricula Vitae of the six persons in light of the criteria defined in my letter to you dated 2017.03.14. I have found the list to be ‘unacceptable’ within the meaning of the Consti-tution and of those criteria,” Granger stated in a letter to Jagdeo on Friday.

Later a statement from the Ministry of the Presi-dency stated that Jagdeo must now submit a third list of nominees and Granger was quoted as saying that he was prepared to work with him for as long as it takes.

“I’m prepared to work with the Leader of the Opposition for as long as it takes to have somebody selected who fits the criteria, satisfies the Constitu-tion and is one that the people of Guyana could be happy with. I’m prepared to work with the Leader of the Opposition for as long as it takes, but I’m not going to give the people of Guyana the appointment of a person, who is not fit and proper in accordance with the Constitution or criteria, which have been laid out,” he said.

Article 161 (2) of the Constitution states, “Sub-ject to the provisions of paragraph (4), the Chair-man of the Elections Commission shall be a person who holds or who has held office as a judge of a court having unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court or who is qualified to be appointed as any such judge, or any other fit and proper person, to be appointed by the President from a list of six persons, not unacceptable to the President, submitted by the Leader of the Opposition after meaningful consultation with the non-governmental political parties represented in the National Assembly.”

The ministry said Granger made it clear that the list must include six persons, who are all qualified so that the choice is not limited. “Every member of the list suggested must conform to the criteria and you cannot put on the list, a person who does not conform… I must be given a choice. I don’t believe that the second list gave me the range of choice that the people of Guyana deserve,” he said.

“We examined the qualifications very closely and in the end it was clear that the list as a whole did not conform to the criteria as laid down in the Constitu-tion or the list of criteria, which was established…  I expect that he would go back to the drawing board and produce a list, which conforms to those criteria. I’m quite serious. It’s an important appointment and I think it must be taken seriously,” he also said.

Gecom has been without a chairman since Decem-ber last year. The past chairman, Dr Steve Surujbally resigned from office on November 30, 2016.

The ministry said Granger recognised that a Chairperson needed to be appointed as local government elections are imminent and in preparation for general elections.

Jagdeo had publicly said that he would provide a third list if needs be, even as he had expressed confidence that the second list of nominees met the criteria outlined by the President.

“He said that he had a preference for people who were former judges, and are eligible to be judges and five of those six persons meet those criteria. I suspect that he could find one from the five or the six who will discharge the functions of Gecom in an impartial [and] independent manner,” Jagdeo said.

A week ago, Jagdeo had expressed concern at the length of time it was taking for Granger to make a decision, opining that the process should not take so long.

Following the President’s formal pronouncement on Friday that the list was rejected, Jagdeo added to the mounting criticisms of the President’s handling of the process and reiterated much of what he had earlier stated.

“The Leader of the Opposition notes with deep concern the cavalier and callous manner in which the President continues to express no confidence in and denigrate the professional reputation, integrity and competence of Guyanese of high calibre who have rendered sterling contributions to the development of our country and in service to our people and who have distinguished themselves in their individual endeavours and pursuits,” Jagdeo said in a statement.

“We reiterate our apprehension that the President is bent on unilaterally selecting a person of his choice in violation of the letter and spirit of Article 161 (2) of the Constitution and indeed, the Carter Formula. The Leader of the Opposition hereby assures that should the President proceed along this unconstitutional, undemocratic and diabolical path there will be litigation and other consequences for which the President will be responsible,” he added.

Sources have said that while Jagdeo plans to continue submitting lists as required, it would unconscionable for this charade to continue any longer.

One Gecom commissioner last week said that the non-appointment of a Chairman was stymying their work as the commissioners have been unable to meet and as such are not getting information concerning the operations at Gecom.

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Nehru posted:

So the real President of the people going to met GADAHA Granger.  Buddy Jagdeo expect lots of BRAYING!!!!!!!

Bai, hold off let's see what comes out of the meeting nah!

FM
ba$eman posted:
Nehru posted:

So the real President of the people going to met GADAHA Granger.  Buddy Jagdeo expect lots of BRAYING!!!!!!!

Bai, hold off let's see what comes out of the meeting nah!

Maybe Granger will approve of Noel Blackman or Neal Goring.

FM

They are treating the leader of the opposition like a "little boy".

 I do not think that Jagdeo's strategy so far has not been a wise one. He needs to keep the end game in sight, additionally, he needs to use a variety of strategies concurrently. For example, refer the matter to the Carribbean court, mount the political pressure locally through the use of demonstrations, elicit the support of the civil sector, approach the international community  repair the damages and elicit their support, elicit the support of the CaARICOM leaders, if that is possible, galvanize the support groups in the diaspora, etc. 


 

Z
Zed posted:

They are treating the leader of the opposition like a "little boy".

 I do not think that Jagdeo's strategy so far has not been a wise one. He needs to keep the end game in sight, additionally, he needs to use a variety of strategies concurrently. For example, refer the matter to the Carribbean court, mount the political pressure locally through the use of demonstrations, elicit the support of the civil sector, approach the international community  repair the damages and elicit their support, elicit the support of the CaARICOM leaders, if that is possible, galvanize the support groups in the diaspora, etc. 


 

And also appeal to the Carter Center!

FM
Zed posted:

They are treating the leader of the opposition like a "little boy".

 I do not think that Jagdeo's strategy so far has not been a wise one. He needs to keep the end game in sight, additionally, he needs to use a variety of strategies concurrently. For example, refer the matter to the Carribbean court, mount the political pressure locally through the use of demonstrations, elicit the support of the civil sector, approach the international community  repair the damages and elicit their support, elicit the support of the CaARICOM leaders, if that is possible, galvanize the support groups in the diaspora, etc. 


 

Jagdeo is a clever guy but overly self opinionated and likes to go it alone.  I don't know who his team of advisors are, but don't underestimate Granger's strategy advisors.  The PNC always had a wider strategy, not sure where the PPP stands, what their strategy is!  Is their strategy to regain power by hoping the PNC fails, or do they have a clear strategic vision for the nation.

We can see the dots being connected, and it does not bode well for the PPP in 2020, economic meltdown or not!  We've see that before!

In the end though, he is the only person, at this point, to present a credible challenge to the PNC!

FM
ba$eman posted:
Zed posted:

They are treating the leader of the opposition like a "little boy".

 I do not think that Jagdeo's strategy so far has not been a wise one. He needs to keep the end game in sight, additionally, he needs to use a variety of strategies concurrently. For example, refer the matter to the Carribbean court, mount the political pressure locally through the use of demonstrations, elicit the support of the civil sector, approach the international community  repair the damages and elicit their support, elicit the support of the CaARICOM leaders, if that is possible, galvanize the support groups in the diaspora, etc. 


 

Jagdeo is a clever guy but overly self opinionated and likes to go it alone.  I don't know who his team of advisors are, but don't underestimate Granger's strategy advisors.  The PNC always had a wider strategy, not sure where the PPP stands, what their strategy is!  Is their strategy to regain power by hoping the PNC fails, or do they have a clear strategic vision for the nation.

We can see the dots being connected, and it does not bode well for the PPP in 2020, economic meltdown or not!  We've see that before!

In the end though, he is the only person, at this point, to present a credible challenge to the PNC!

Ketch dem neemakharam coolies and have them do the dirty work of bad talking the PPP coolies...Warria, Django, Nagamoottoo, and Rumjhatthan.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
 

Ketch dem neemakharam coolies and have them do the dirty work of bad talking the PPP coolies...Warria, Django, Nagamoottoo, and Rumjhatthan.

Question for you,have you ever voted for the PPP ?? you mentioned migrating donkey years.

Well i voted twice in Guyana,one for GAWU to become the recognized Union for Sugar workers and the other for PPP in 1992.I was a strong supporter of the party,refused to be a candidate for another minor party,anyway while you were enjoying life in ole USA,I was with the people in their struggles for Free and Fair Elections,and helped to get voters to the polling booths in 1992,all expense came from my pocket,I would like to add i lived 43 yrs in the homeland.

Suh now I am called names,because i am not a fan of your hero who derailed the party.

Anyway thanks bhai.

Django
Last edited by Django

The PNC way…

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…or the Highway
So who’s surprised that Prezzie has rejected the Opposition Leader’s second list of nominees for the GECOM Chair?? Not THIS Eyewitness!
And not anyone with an open mind who reads the expose by this newspaper on the rabidly pro-PNC female ex-Judge Claudette La Bennet, whom Prezzie really wants to fill that spot. Not long after the PNC-led coalition got into office, the Trade Union Recognition Board (TURB) had to be reconstituted, since its two-year term was over. Now this is a very critical body, since it decides who speaks for workers.
The Govt took away one of FITUG’s members and gave it to Lewis’s TUC, but didn’t trust him to toe the PNC line. To make certain of the loyalty of the TURB, the PNC, without consulting either of the two major trade union umbrella bodies, applied its coup de grace and appointed La Bennet as Chair. In what was clearly a dry-run of what would play out a year later on the GECOM Chairmanship, the Government ignored the clear stipulation of the TURB Act, which demanded that the “Minister” “consult” with the most representative trade union body to select the chair.
Both Lincoln Lewis of the TUC and Komal Chand of FITUG complained bitterly of the Government’s high-handed action in making a travesty of the word “consultation”. The TUC had submitted a name, but wasn’t even given the courtesy of being informed it was rejected. Clearly La Bennet was trusted by this government to call the shots, as the Government — read PNC — sees them. The Chair of GECOM is even more crucial to the survival of the PNC.
Just as in 1967, when Burnham decided to rig elections to remain in office, and appointed Desmond Hoyte to represent the PNC’s interest on the Elections’ Commission, he also insisted on a totally compliant Chair — Ex-Chief Justice Donald Jackson. In 1980, the latter was replaced by another compliant pro-PNC ex-Chief Justice, Harold Bollers — dubbed a “toothless poodle” by Cheddi Jagan.
Ex-Justice Jackson presided over the 1968 elections, when horses voted in England; and the 1973 one, when ballots were counted at Camp Ayanganna, away from prying eyes.
Ex-Justice Bollers presided over the 1980 elections, which the observing British Parliamentary Group described as “more crooked than barbed wire”; and also the 1985 elections, in which Hoyte gave himself an even bigger majority than Burnham ever had! And so, in 1990, Desmond Hoyte was forced by President Carter to agree to amend the constitution to go beyond judges and consider “other fit and proper persons”.
It’s clear that being a judge didn’t guarantee “independence, impartiality and integrity”. But then these words mean whatever the PNC decides, do they not?

…on development
One thing about this government is: you can’t blame them for ambushing the Guyanese public about their policies and programmes. They did take the time to declare that President Granger would be faithfully following in the footsteps of the “Comrade Leader, LFS Burnham. We can see that promise kept on the running of key institutions like TURB and GECOM; and over this weekend, a new announcement keeps the ball rolling on the path of Burnhamism — cooperatives.
Minister Keith Scott informed that he’s now completed his survey of cooperatives, and the institution which was at the heart of Burnham’s revolution — we were to be a “Cooperative Republic, remember? — was alive and kicking. All it presumably needs is money, and we will have our new “engine of growth”. No wonder the Government gives short shrift to the Private Sector!! What the heck do they know about Ujamaa Socialism??
Now why would the Government revive a model of development that failed miserably before?
Why? They didn’t stick to the founder leader’s vision!!

…to solve fishy problems
Another aspect of the “Burnham Stride” was strut on the world stage. And last week, Agri Minister Holder followed suit. He jetted off to Norway to regulate illegal, unreported and unregulated (IUU) fishing.
So what if our Agri’s tanking??

FM

If and when Bharrat Jagdeo turns up on June 12 at State House, he should not go alone. He should take Anil Nandlall and Gail Teixeira with him. 

I bet Grainjaw will have Harmon at his side of the table.

Once again, Grainjaw has taken a page out of Burnham's playbook. He thinks he can humiliate and belittle Jagdeo like how Burnham used to humiliate Jagan.

 

FM

 

The DAG is calling Jagdeo to play mind games. DAG has decided on his pick for GECOM Chair already.

I agree with Gilly. Jagdeo should find out  how many people will be in attendance on the Government side. Based on the information he receives he should go with the exact number from the PPP including Anil Nandlall DR. Frank Anthony. Do not take Gail Texiera because she is a known snake.

Alternatively, Jagdeo should demand that, in the name of transparency that the DAG explain publicly what the consultation is about, given that they have consulted on this subject before. Jagdeo should not trust this DAG ever.

FM

Jagdeo says to attend meeting with President on Gecom Chairman.

June 5, 2017 Source

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo yesterday said that he will accept an invitation from President David Granger to meet next Monday for further talks on the appointment of a Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commis-sion (Gecom).

Sources close to Jagdeo say that a main point of discussion with the President would be to ascertain if any of the names of the 12 persons, submitted on the two rejected lists, met his stipulated criteria.

This is because the Opposition Leader wants to evaluate “How many from the combined lists met the criteria since only then will we be in a position to know what he really wants so as to be guided,” one source pointed out.

The source explained that the President will also be asked,  if any of the 12 met his criteria, whether those names could be resubmitted with additional names to form the third pool.

“If you have two persons from the first list and one from the second list that met what it is that he is looking for, then we will only need to find three other persons. It is almost impossible to ask to go have consultations again to find a fresh six persons and have all those persons meet the President’s criteria,” the source added.

The source said that the way forward as it pertains to the list, “rests heavily” on what happens at next Monday’s consultations.

Last Friday, Granger informed Jagdeo that he had rejected the second list, which Jagdeo submitted on May 2. That  list comprised retired judges BS Roy and William Ramlal, attorneys Oneidge Walrond-Allicock, Nadia Sagar and Kashir Khan and businessman Gerry Gouveia.  That list was submitted following certain criteria outlined by Granger. The first list was submitted in January, but was also rejected.

Nominees on the first list were chartered accountant Christopher Ram, governance specialist Lawrence Lachmansingh, business executives Ramesh Dookhoo and Norman McLean, author Ryhaan Shah and historian Professor James Rose.

“I have examined the Curricula Vitae of the six persons in light of the criteria defined in my letter to you dated 2017.03.14. I have found the list to be ‘unacceptable’ within the meaning of the Constitution and of those criteria,” Granger stated in the letter to Jagdeo, last Friday.

‘Third list’

Late Friday night, a statement from the Ministry of the Presidency, said that Jagdeo must now submit a third list of nominees and Granger was quoted as saying that he was prepared to work with him for as long as it takes. I’m prepared to work with the Leader of the Opposition for as long as it takes to have somebody selected who fits the criteria, satisfies the Constitution and is one that the people of Guyana could be happy with. I’m prepared to work with the Leader of the Opposition for as long as it takes, but I’m not going to give the people of Guyana the appointment of a person, who is not fit and proper in accordance with the Constitution or criteria, which have been laid out,” he said.

Article 161 (2) of the Constitution states, “Subject to the provisions of paragraph (4), the Chairman of the Elections Commission shall be a person who holds or who has held office as a judge of a court having unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court or who is qualified to be appointed as any such judge, or any other fit and proper person, to be appointed by the President from a list of six persons, not unacceptable to the President, submitted by the Leader of the Opposition after meaningful consultation with the non-governmental political parties represented in the National Assembly.”

The ministry said Granger made it clear that the list must include six persons, who are all qualified so that the choice is not limited.

“Every member of the list suggested must conform to the criteria and you cannot put on the list, a person who does not conform… I must be given a choice. I don’t believe that the second list gave me the range of choice that the people of Guyana deserve,” he said.

“We examined the qualifications very closely and in the end it was clear that the list as a whole did not conform to the criteria as laid down in the Constitution or the list of criteria, which was established…  I expect that he would go back to the drawing board and produce a list, which conforms to those criteria. I’m quite serious. It’s an important appointment and I think it must be taken seriously,” he also said.

Then on Saturday, writing on behalf of the President, Minister of State Joseph Harmon dispatched a letter to Jagdeo inviting him to consultations at 6 pm on Monday, June 12th 2017, at State House.

Harmon said he was instructed to write to Jagdeo seeking consultations because of statements attributed to him in press, on the letter about the rejection of the names.

Jagdeo had said that while Granger dispatched the letter saying he rejected the names he did not indicate what should be the next step.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

Ketch dem neemakharam coolies and have them do the dirty work of bad talking the PPP coolies...Warria, Django, Nagamoottoo, and Rumjhatthan.

Question for you,have you ever voted for the PPP ?? you mentioned migrating donkey years.

Well i voted twice in Guyana,one for GAWU to become the recognized Union for Sugar workers and the other for PPP in 1992.I was a strong supporter of the party,refused to be a candidate for another minor party,anyway while you were enjoying life in ole USA,I was with the people in their struggles for Free and Fair Elections,and helped to get voters to the polling booths in 1992,all expense came from my pocket,I would like to add i lived 43 yrs in the homeland.

Suh now I am called names,because i am not a fan of your hero who derailed the party.

Anyway thanks bhai.

Django bhai, good mannin'. I never voted in Guyana. I left before I was able to vote. However, that said, I have been to many political "meetings" sponsored by PPP, PNC, and the UF. I have seen violence at PNC meetings and once had to run about 1/2 mile through tear gas. The PNC always trucked their PNC thugs from #51 village to beat up the coolies. The UF and PPP had peaceful meetings. It was not the coolies who started the riots; it was the PNC niggroes. I would have never voted for the PNC. I will always be a supporter of the PPP. I have seen the PNC and the PPP govts in office and can honestly say that the PNC IS MORE OF A GRAND THIEF THAN THE PPP. Please, don't forget the PNC emptying the treasury before being thrown out of office.

FM

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