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Address by President Granger at the symposium organized by the Cuffy 250 Organisation

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Following requests, Stabroek News publishes below the address delivered by President David Granger on Sunday at the Cuffy 250 organisation symposium. The text of the address was released by the Ministry of the Presidency.

Organise and mobilise, don’t agonise

August is an awesome month.  It reminds us of the Demerara Revolt when, on the bloody morning of 20th August 1823, the British Army massacred over 200 Africans at Bachelor’s Adventure. This was the time, long before Facebook, when over 11,000 enslaved people from 55 plantations were able to assemble at a single time to demand their freedom and they were massacred.

August reminds us of the Essequibo Revolt which erupted on 3rd August 1834. This was the time when Africans thought that they had been freed because the Emancipation Act was brought into force on 1st August that year. When they were told that they were far from free and had to go back to the same plantations to work for four more years as a period of ‘apprenticeship’, they assembled in the Churchyard at La Belle Alliance and revolted in protest.

August reminds us of Emancipation Day which we celebrated six days ago. On the 1st August 1838, over 85,000 Africans were finally freed after over 200 years of enslavement on the Guyanese plantations.

August, therefore, is a fitting time to come together to commemorate the bloody sacrifices of our African forebears. They struggled, suffered and were slaughtered fighting for the freedom we enjoy today.  We pay homage to them for the gift of Emancipation which they bought dearly and bequeathed to us. It was their legacy.

My brothers and sisters, the celebration of anniversaries and jubilees and the commemoration of revolts are important for every generation to remember and to re-learn the lessons of the past. But we must now move forward. We now have the opportunity and there is now a necessity for us to do so.

The Trans-Atlantic Trade in Captive Africans

There are about 200,000 or more Persons of African Descent living in Guyana and their ancestors have been living here for over three hundred and fifty years. The Dutch were the first Europeans to colonise our territory and they brought Africans with them from as early as the 17th century. The subsequent development of plantations in the colonies of Essequibo, Berbice and Demerara created an increased demand for labour. So over that period, the supply of Africans, particularly from West Africa was almost continuous.

This was the start of the Trans-Atlantic Trade in Captive Africans which – in scale, in scope and in span of time – was the most inhumane system in the history of human civilization. It was a crime against humanity and it is punishable under international law.

The forced labour of enslaved Africans earned enormous amounts of wealth which enriched the exchequers of the European Empires – mainly the British, Dutch, French, Portuguese and Spanish. The era of enslavement, however, inflicted an enduring legacy of underdevelopment in Guyana, the Caribbean and elsewhere.

Emancipation brought no compensation or reparation for the inequities, injustices and injuries of enslavement.  It brought no end to economic exploitation and ethnic discrimination.

International year for People of African Descent

The United Nations stated that around 200 million people who identify themselves as being of African descent live in the Americas. Many millions more live in other parts of the world, outside of the African continent.

The international community realised, belatedly, that enslavement, indeed was a great crime against People of African Descent, that the consequences have caused damage and that compensation or some form or reparation must be made to heal the wounds and this basically is what I want to speak about today.

The Declaration of the World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance issued at the conclusion of the Conference held in Durban, South Africa in 2001, asserted that people of African and Asian descent along with indigenous peoples continue to be victims of the consequences of the slave trade, slavery and colonialism. The ‘Declaration’ stated: “… that slavery and the slave trade are a crime against humanity and should always have been so.”

The United Nations General Assembly, on the 18th December 2009, nearly seven years ago, proclaimed the year beginning on 1st January 2011 as the International Year for People of African Descent.

The main objective of the ‘International Year’ was to raise awareness of the challenges facing People of African descent and to hope that the ‘Year’ would foster discussions that could generate proposals for solutions to tackle these challenges.

The ‘International Year’ was aimed at strengthening national action and regional and international cooperation for the benefit of people of African descent. This included their full enjoyment of economic, cultural, social, civil and political rights, their participation and integration in all political, economic, social and cultural aspects of society and the promotion of a greater knowledge of, and respect for, their diverse heritage and culture.

In proclaiming the International Year, the international community tried to recognise that People of African Descent represented a distinct group whose human rights must be promoted and protected.

The Government-of-the-day had other plans for the ‘International Year’ and cleverly turned it into an all-but-forgotten ‘song-and-dance’ show. African organisations assembled and expressed their displeasure at the process implemented by the Guyana Government at that time to design a programme for the observance of the International Year for People of African Descent.

The assembly, that is the assembly of African organisations, passed a resolution expressing: “displeasure with the process used to create the Government’s Programme as it did not properly consult with major African groups, organizations and stakeholders in Guyana.”

At the dawn of the ‘International Year’, the situation was already dire. It did recognize that, despite the efforts to establish an independent agrarian village-based economy in Guyana in the post emancipation decades, the planter class and the government-of-the-day undermined the African initiative.

It did recognize that People of African Descent continued to be subject to ethnic discrimination after emancipation. Guyana and other countries of the Caribbean have not fully overcome these class inequalities which have their origin in the era of enslavement:

  • The economic structures of the region today, retain the emphasis on the production and exportation of primary commodities which has rendered Caribbean economies dependent and underdeveloped.
  • The people of the Caribbean have been bequeathed a legacy of dispossession. African Caribbean people, including African-Guyanese, continue to struggle for “recognition, justice and development.” They continue to agitate for ‘reparative justice’ for the crimes of the slave trade and slavery.

The international community, at the end of the International Year of People of African Descent, recognised that much more had to be done.

International Decade for People of African Descent

The United Nations General Assembly, by Resolution 68/237 on the 23rd December 2013, designated the decade 1st January 2015 to 31st December 2024, as the International Decade for the People of African Descent. Twenty months ago this decade started.

The General Assembly, also, by Resolution 69/16 of 18th November, 2014 adopted a Programme of activities for the implementation of the International Decade for People of African Descent.

My brothers and sisters we don’t have to reinvent the wheel, there is already on the table a programme of activities for the implementation of the International Decade for People of African Descent crafted by the United Nations.

The latter ‘Resolution’ called upon the member states to “take concrete and practical steps… to combat racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance faced by people of African descent….”  The ‘Resolution’ outlined areas for action by member states of which Guyana is one.

My brothers and sisters in the event that you are not aware, some African-Guyanese organizations did launch the ‘International Decade’ on 24th January 2015 at Independence Park in Georgetown, which I had the honour to address. It was not well-attended, it was on a Saturday. I had the honour, also, to address the International Youth Reparations Rally on 20th May, also at Independence Park.

Guyana, therefore, has an obligation to take action in accordance with the Declaration’.  The Government of Guyana fully supports this ‘Programme of activities which includes the demand for reparations for People of African descent and for indigenous peoples. Twenty months of the ‘International Decade’ have elapsed. There needs to be, now, an organisation and a plan in order to ensure the implementation of the ‘Programme.’

Guyana will continue to agitate for reparations for the international crime of enslavement. The Government will work with non-governmental organisations which represent people of African Descent – during the remaining years of the International Decade. I would like to commit myself and the Government which I lead to the fulfillment of the programme in five main areas. There are 10 areas in the international programme but I have extracted five. The first is expiation or what some people call an apology.

Expiation: It is a hard thing to apologize, they have apologized to the Jews for the holocaust, but this is a hard thing and the Caribbean Governments are insisting on an apology because a crime was committed and you must say you are sorry. As you know, a National Reparations Committee was established in Guyana in February of 2014. This was in response to a mandate given seven months earlier by the Heads of Government of the Caribbean Community at the 34th Regular Meeting of the Heads of Government of the Caribbean Community.  The Heads, also in March 2014 in St Vincent, accepted a 10-point Draft Regional Strategic Operational Plan for a Caribbean Reparatory Justice Programme (CRJP). The Plan of Action, inter alia, must demand an apology for slavery and the payment of reparations.  I want you to remember these dates and documents because we must not sleep walk into the future without understanding that we must follow a plan and I feel it is part of the task today of this Cuffy 250 forum to work with that plan and not abandon that plan. Twenty months have passed; we only have another 100 months for this decade. We have to make this decade work for people of African descent.

  • Education: The fore-parents of present-day African-Guyanese had the vision, after Emancipation, to recognize that education was the means to lift them and their children out of the morass of poverty and economic exclusion. Education remains the way out of poverty and inequality. The right to free primary education – protected under our ‘Constitution’ – does not prevent more than 4,000 Guyanese children from dropping-out of school each year. We have to take responsibility because nobody else will. This is what the boats, bicycles, and buses are all about. It is about getting children to school and keeping them in school.

Just as our illiterate fore parents 178 years ago, saw the benefits of education, we their educated descendants, can do no better than to ensure that every single child goes to school and stay in school.

 

  • Equality: Ethnic discrimination and lack of equal access to public services contribute to inequality. People of African Descent, in the past, have alleged acts of discrimination in both the public and private sectors and there was evidence that there was discrimination. We must now correct that situation because discrimination against anyone promotes insecurity and social exclusion and that could lead to disorder.

 

The Plan of Action must give the assurance that no group or community would be disenfranchised or prevented from accessing public services. People of African Descent must be assured that they would not be discriminated against and hindered in accessing public services – including housing, education, health, utilities and most important their land rights.

 

  • Economy: The village movement began at least in November 1839, a little more than a year after Emancipation. Those villages and the impact that they had on the Guyanese society must be imprinted on our psyche. I have seen writings by East Indian writers 100 years ago, encouraging Indians to do like the Africans and buy land and establish villages. So it made an impact. The villages were cradles not only of a free economy which gave rise to village markets but it was also the cradle of local democracy which allowed villagers to run their own communities. The village economy is important because that is where most Africans live. Many people believe the myth that Africans are city dwellers. It is true that they may form the majority of the population in Georgetown, New Amsterdam and Linden but the majority of Africans live in the countryside. The villages as I said are the cradle of democracy and the cradle of the local economy and it is right that Cuffy 250 should focus on what has been happening in the villages.

The hurdles that had to be overcome were daunting and the legislative barriers and the aggression, particularly from what was then called the Court of Policy which is now the equivalent of the National Assembly, did tremendous damages to the villages. So we have to walk on two legs, not only looking at the economy but also looking at the way those villages are governed. The villages were the home of our households, homes of our schools, homes of our churches, homes of our farms. Those villages gave dignity to the freed Africans coming out of the indescribable circumstances of enslavement. So the plan of action which I ask you to contemplate today should aim at revitalizing village economies.

The thrifty fore-parents of African-Guyanese accumulated their limited resources after Emancipation and bought lands on which were established propriety and communal villages. It is the intention of this Government to establish a Lands Commission in order to rectify the anomalies and resolve the controversies which up to now, surrounds thousands of hectares of communal lands which were purchased in the post-Emancipation Village Movement.

 

  • Employment: The problem of unemployment is one that is of serious concern to People of African Descent. The government is aware of the plight faced by many school-leavers to find jobs.

 

The Plan of Action must aim at reducing the high incidence of unemployment in the economy and aim at creating an entrepreneurship programme to assist young Guyanese to establish and manage their businesses.

Time to organize, time to mobilise

We have to plan seriously for the next 100 months of the Decade for People of African Descent. I iterate that twenty months of the ‘International Decade’ have elapsed already. This is the time to organize. This is the time to mobilise and not to agonize interminably about the condition in which we find ourselves as a nation. This is the time to organize and mobilise so that at the end of the decade, the Government and the Guyanese people can report confidently they have achieved the objectives of the United Nations International Decade for people of African Descent.

Consult among yourselves how best the African Guyanese organizations in Guyana can be mobilized to achieve specific measureable targets month after month, year after year in the fulfillment and achievement of those objectives.

Guyanese recall that, over the past 25 years, there has been a remarkable revival of social consciousness. Several African-Guyanese organisations — the African Cultural Development Association (ACDA); African Heritage Foundation (AHP); African Welfare Convention (AWC); All African-Guyanese Council (AAGC); Forum for the Liberation of African-Guyanese (FLAG); National Emancipation Trust (NET); Movement for Economic Empowerment (MEE); Pan-African Movement (PAM); ‘Revival of Awareness and Promotion of African Culture (RAPAC); for example — have been established.  I ask that some forum be created, so that nobody could be left out, everyone could be involved and consulted if we are to achieve the objectives of this international decade.

My brothers and sisters, this is the time to organize, the time to mobilize. August 2016 obliges us not only to look back at the contributions of those who helped to build Guyana but also to look forward to the type of country we wish to bequeath to our children and grandchildren.

All Guyanese are entitled to share equitably in the patrimony of this great country. May God Bless you all!  I thank you.

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No where in all of this is there any assertion of "teking back Guyana for black people".  No mention of Indians, except that the village movement did act as a role model when Indians began to leave the estates, that being a historical fact.

Those who equate this speech with Jagdeo's howls are seriously missing some brain cells.

Granger didn't divide Guyanese by those who support "us" and those support "them". Jagdeo did.

Granger never spoke in terms of mobilizing a base along ethnic lines. Jagdeo did.

Jagdeo lacks the desire or ability to think outside of the ethnic box, but then this is the PPP.

Of course on (Indian) Arrival Day the fact that it is not only Indians who arrived. The day is to commemorate the arrival of Portuguese, Chinese, West Indians, and yes those Africans who didn't arrive as slaves.

Yet any mention of these other groups will lead the brown bai KKK into howls and screams of "Indian Eradication".  And then they will speak only of Indians.

FM
seignet posted:

You is hindrance to progress. We like dat bcz of yuh curses. Ju ju gat u.

Last year you were trying to cast all sorts of spells on black people, playing with Nigerian juju.

Well the juju came after you as indicated by your incoherence.

FM
randolph posted:

 DAG whom the USA said was an anti- Indian Racist is showing his true colors, so are the Hindses, Lincolns et al

How did youo come up with this? Granger was adressing the Cuffy 250 organisation. Are yoou now saying slavery never happened so he should shut up? Dam dude, where were you when that sleazy Jags %kont cried out for Indians to take back their country?

cain

Consult among yourselves how best the African Guyanese organizations in Guyana can be mobilized to achieve specific measureable targets month after month, year after year in the fulfillment and achievement of those objectives.

 

1) What are those objectives?

2) What are those specific measurable targets?

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
randolph posted:

 DAG whom the USA said was an anti- Indian Racist is showing his true colors, so are the Hindses, Lincolns et al

Hmmm.  The report written by some junior analyst who probably wasn't even born when Granger allegedly commit his racist acts.

Now why don't you comment on Jagdeo who is threatening to take Guyana back for Indians.  His own former colleague who knows him very well calls him a racist. His former colleague, Luncheon couldn't provide roof that he wasn't a racist.

Yes these are folks who know Jagdeo very well, and yet your best proof is from an analyst who doesn't even know what a Guyanese looks like!

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Consult among yourselves how best the African Guyanese organizations in Guyana can be mobilized to achieve specific measureable targets month after month, year after year in the fulfillment and achievement of those objectives.

 

1) What are those objectives?

2) What are those specific measurable targets?

 

Glad that you posted this.  Now this is proof that Granger is putting the onus on organizations which represent the ethnic interests of Africans to determine amongst themselves about certain measurable goals can be attained.

He is NOT saying what those goals ought to be, as he is not acting in the role of Lord of the Blacks.

Note that Granger wasn't promising that government ought to do something special for blacks, even in the face of the demands that he should, given that it was blacks (including those of mixed ancestry...yes like Prashad's wife) who were responsible for him being president.

 

And here is Jagdeo howling that  "We (Indians) will take back Guyana".  Exposed by Ramkarran!

FM
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cain posted:
 where were you when that sleazy Jags %kont cried out for Indians to take back their country?

Here was there wailing that he can no longer scream "ahbe pan tap, black man time done" and screamed that Jagdeo has to bring back that era.

FM

Carib is concocting and blowing things out of proportion with the sole purpose making the PPP look like a anti-African party.  The PPP have always been under this attack. It's nothing new.  Most of the charges of racism against the PPP cannot be substantiated. It's all about getting the Africans from supporting a party other than the PNC.  For the PNC to be good they have make the PPP look really bad. 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Carib is concocting and blowing things out of proportion with the sole purpose making the PPP look like a anti-African party.  The PPP have always been under this attack. It's nothing new.  Most of the charges of racism against the PPP cannot be substantiated. It's all about getting the Africans from supporting a party other than the PNC.  For the PNC to be good they have make the PPP look really bad. 

The charges of racism against the PPP were in fact substantiated.

Freddie K and Nigel Hughes presented evidence to Luncheon. Luncheon couldn't dispute the fact that very few Africans were in leadership positions, and none were heads of mission.  When asked the reason, his response was that he didn't know, and that maybe blacks weren't qualified.  A lie when one sees the success overseas of many Afro Guyanese, one was responsible for getting the CDB AAA credit ratings.

Jagdeo sued Freddie K for accusing him of being an institutional racist  He had to withdraw the lawsuit as he couldn't refute Freddie K's charges.

Don't worry about that though.  Worry about the fact that in 2020 just under 50% of the voting age population will be black or mixed, and that in one year in office APNU AFC was able to woo Amerindians to win in Lethem and to tie with the PPP in Mabaruma. 

So continue to dispute the fact that almost to a man blacks and mixed people consider the PPP to be racist.

FM

Also when it was under PPP control the Chronicle printing an entire editorial accusing blacks of being criminals, violent, useless and interested in nothing other than attacking Indians.

We have never heard an apology from the PPP, and why would we when this is what is howled at Freedom House, and in PPP bottom houses, and here on GNI by the ardent PPP supporters.

FM

Let me make my seminal point. Granger is not a civil rights advocate. He is the leader of a Plural nation. We argue against the PPP many times for similar speeches. They however, have not gone a hundredth of the way as this fellow has gone.

FM
ba$eman posted:

Granger's agenda is to re-establish the Burnham apartheid ruling model, only this time with a smile rather than a growl!

He is actually doing it in public now. His new code word is "the clock is ticking" 

Tek, loot and rob. I will release you from prison. Burhnam did the same and told Afros to tek the gold from the Indos.

I lived through that loot,  rob and bruk down the door PNC apartheid era and can tell you that this is exactly how it all started under PNC part one.

GNI's Lilmohan has no shame, he is part and parcel of this new PNC apartheid regime and has to shame to act as an advisor to the PNC.

This new crabdawg is heaping praise on the other crabdawg Burnham. He has no shame whatsoever.

Let SARU intimidate and harass the Indos.

FM
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The PNC is gradually tightening its grip on power.  You will see an acceleration in the last two years. The AFC will try to wriggle itself out of the clutches of the PNC hoping to live and fight again. Granger is trying hard to change Guyana back what it was - firmly under the control of the party and its supporters.

Billy Ram Balgobin
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Stormborn posted:

Let me make my seminal point. Granger is not a civil rights advocate. He is the leader of a Plural nation. We argue against the PPP many times for similar speeches. They however, have not gone a hundredth of the way as this fellow has gone.

I see no difference between this and if Obama or Clinton were speaking to the NAACP.  

In fact after the destruction wrought by the Burnham era followed by 23 years of ethnic exclusion by the PPP the relative situation of blacks in Guyana is as bad as it is in the USA. It is easy to see that Afro Guyanese are worse off than are blacks in just about every other country in the English speaking Caribbean.

So there needs to be discussion about how to fix the problem.

Really don't see what is wrong with Granger telling African rights groups in Guyana to develop solutions and implement measurable goals.

Where is Granger doing anything equivalent to Jagdeo's recent screams.  If he goes to an event to discuss problems faced by Afro Guyanese then he will have to speak to those issues, much as he would have to if the event was about East Indians or Amerindian issues.

Granger is not pitting different groups against each other as Jagdeo is doing.

FM
ba$eman posted:

Granger's agenda is to re-establish the Burnham apartheid ruling model, only this time with a smile rather than a growl!

Really.  How is he doing that?  The man asked you all for proof and you all still seem unable to do this.

Yes it is understood that they days of Indo supremacy are over and you all just cannot adjust to that.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
 

He is actually doing it in public now. His new code word is "the clock is ticking" 

 

Yuji, Nehru, cobra, Alena, Bibi, baseman, Billyramgoat, druggie all scream

"waaaaah, me vex dat me cyant scream collie pan tap black man time done no mo"!!!!!!!!!

Racist idiot, Granger was telling African civil rights organizations that the clock was ticking to fulfill the goals that they set for the decade of the African (or what ever the name was).

Cease wailing because your plans to turn Guyana into Uttar Pradesh have come to an end.

FM
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caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
 

He is actually doing it in public now. His new code word is "the clock is ticking" 

 

Yuji, Nehru, cobra, Alena, Bibi, baseman, Billyramgoat, druggie all scream

"waaaaah, me vex dat me cyant scream collie pan tap black man time done no mo"!!!!!!!!!

Racist idiot, Granger was telling African civil rights organizations that the clock was ticking to fulfill the goals that they set for the decade of the African (or what ever the name was).

Cease wailing because your plans to turn Guyana into Uttar Pradesh have come to an end.

There once was a Black primacy model in place in Guyana.  Granger just heaped raises on the architect of this model, Burnham!  This name is synonymous with the type of rule which has Guyana as one of the few nations with a stagnant to declining population and as much Guyanese out and is in Guyana.  It's a name which represents anti-Indian racism to almost all Indians, even those who cuddle the PNC today!

So, when we see the moves and talk of the re-establishment of this "by-gone" era, we know of what we speak, and so do you!  Remember also, Granger was a student of Burnham!

FM
ba$eman posted:
 

There once was a Black primacy model in place in Guyana. 

Burnham died 31 years ago.  Jagdeo is still alive. Focus on that monster who promotes an Indo primacy model.

FM
caribny posted:
Stormborn posted:

Let me make my seminal point. Granger is not a civil rights advocate. He is the leader of a Plural nation. We argue against the PPP many times for similar speeches. They however, have not gone a hundredth of the way as this fellow has gone.

I see no difference between this and if Obama or Clinton were speaking to the NAACP.  

In fact after the destruction wrought by the Burnham era followed by 23 years of ethnic exclusion by the PPP the relative situation of blacks in Guyana is as bad as it is in the USA. It is easy to see that Afro Guyanese are worse off than are blacks in just about every other country in the English speaking Caribbean.

So there needs to be discussion about how to fix the problem.

Really don't see what is wrong with Granger telling African rights groups in Guyana to develop solutions and implement measurable goals.

Where is Granger doing anything equivalent to Jagdeo's recent screams.  If he goes to an event to discuss problems faced by Afro Guyanese then he will have to speak to those issues, much as he would have to if the event was about East Indians or Amerindian issues.

Granger is not pitting different groups against each other as Jagdeo is doing.

Obama can speak to the virtues of an agenda for equality under the law but he cannot and have not spoken directly to being engaged in setting and forwarding the agenda. This speech is not simply one of reconciling african marginalization in the state and speaking to creating open and transparent policies that over see the inclusion of all.

This is an over view of african empowerment using the state to set the agenda and design the policy. I would be a hypocrite if I do not stand against this. The PPP did the same except they did not declare it and both are bad strategies. We cannot speak from the highest office of the state deferentially to the development of one group over another.

Why am I to condemn Europeans for slavery and demand an apology. What business is the state to advance such a proposition when it is not general enough to include indenture ship or the dispossession of Amerindians. Africans alone did not suffer and that is the point. Granger has taken a backward step here.

FM
Stormborn posted:
 

Obama can speak to the virtues of an agenda for equality under the law but he cannot and have not spoken directly to being engaged in setting and forwarding the agenda. This speech is not simply one of reconciling african marginalization in the state and speaking to creating open and transparent policies that over see the inclusion of all.

This is an over view of african empowerment using the state to set the agenda and design the policy. I would be a hypocrite if I do not stand against this. The PPP did the same except they did not declare it and both are bad strategies. We cannot speak from the highest office of the state deferentially to the development of one group over another.

Why am I to condemn Europeans for slavery and demand an apology. What business is the state to advance such a proposition when it is not general enough to include indenture ship or the dispossession of Amerindians. Africans alone did not suffer and that is the point. Granger has taken a backward step here.

1. Caribbean counties have already set in place a demand for an apology and a demand for reparations, and in fact two non blacks, Jagdeo and Gonsalves from St Vincent, were especially loud in making this demand. I guess because they wanted to curry favor with blacks.

So when Granger makes this demand he is doing so as part of CARICOM foreign policy.   Indeed BOTH Jagdeo and Ramotar were loud in making the same demand, even as BOTH simultaneously abused blacks!

2. I see nothing wrong with him outlining the history and the problems of Afro Guyanese. Would you have had a problem if he were doing so for Amerindians? I think not. 

In fact this is a problem in Latin America where the issues of the Indigenous are given validity, but those of the Afro descendants have been denied validity.  The result being that certain African groups in Brazil, Colombia and Honduras are being thrown off their ancestral lands, whereas Amerindians are being helped to secure tenure for theirs.

3. He was NOT setting an agenda.  In fact he SPECIFICALLY told the African groups to set an agenda as well as measurable goals.  He was NOT being Lord of the Africans.  But he wasn't ignoring African issues either.

What I find interesting is that in Guyana the whites, the reds, the Chinese and the Indians all had their cricket clubs, and excluded people on the basis of this. These clubs (Cosmos and Everest) even existed in my time/

Yet when Africans said that maybe they too ought to have ethnically exclusive clubs all of these people jumped up and called them racists.

Examine within your head why this gut reaction whenever issues of Afro Guyanese are raised. To discuss African issues is a taboo topic in Guyana, whereas East Indian and Amerindian issues are OK. 

Why is it that in Guyana every ethnic group is allowed to organize on the basis of their ethnicity, yet if blacks do so all hell lets loose.

Look how Indians have hijacked a day which was meant to commemorate the arrival of all non indigenous groups who didn't arrive as slaves (including African immigrants and blacks from the Caribbean).  Does anyone mention this?  No. To do so would risk a mountain of screams from Indians. So we hear about how Indians SAVED Guyana and a torrent of other myths, not about how Indians FAILED when compared to other indentured groups.

 

FM

And I will suggest that if Indians have problems the Indian civil rights groups need to do the same, invite Granger and dialogue with him about their issues.

If he is stupid enough not to attend, or not to listen then they can legitimately query as to why he did so for Afro Guyanese.

Listen this is just the usual excuse for Afro Guyanese issues to be ignored.

FM

BTW there are many blacks who are angered by the fact that when Obama speaks to black issues he often sounds little different than a Republican. He can have empathy for the white working class, but for blacks its a lecture, as if every black is some ghetto loser.  And if the black middle class don't face issues by virtue of being black.

He should listen to his wife and learn from her.  But for the savaging that Obama got from the racist elements within the GOP he wouldn't be that much liked among blacks.  They support him because the identify with the racism that he has had to face.

FM

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