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Ok folks

 

PNC presidential candidate Granger has a couple of remarkable achievements.

 

1. Carrying out Burnham's order as a soldier to fetch ballot boxes and assist the PNC in 28 of rigging and frigging in Guyana.

 

2. Using and Ordering Oscar Clarke in assisting Granger to rig his own Leadership race in Linden which caused a major uproar in the PNC camp.

 

While the PNC tries hard to reinvent itself, we must take into consideration Granger's dirty achievements. The PNC will never be trusted unless it apologizes for it's past sins.

 

The PPP hit the Campaign trail this month and the PNC's engine backfired with reports of the coalition marriage problems.

 

Vote for Granger if you love rigging and frigging in Guyana.

 

The PNC is a Racist Nationalist Afrocentric party with 95 Percent of Afros supporting the PNC with ALL of their Leaders being Riggers to date. It is in their blood.

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Granger's Most Remarkable Achievements:

 

1) Attracting former ROAR Indians to his side.

 

2) Reaching out to the Indian population

 

3) Being heads and shoulders above any PPP jaat political opponent.

 

4) Serving in an athoritarian racist dictatorship and developing a reputation for being fair and just towards the Indians around him.

 

5) Forging a Coalition with some Indians who can win votes.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Granger's Most Remarkable Achievements:

 

1) Attracting former ROAR Indians to his side.

 The Leader of ROAR is supporting the PPP. That is a fact.

 

2) Reaching out to the Indian population

He has yet to apologize to Indos for his party crimes including rigging and discrimination. 

 

3) Being heads and shoulders above any PPP jaat political opponent.

That is unproven, the electorate will make that decision.

 

4) Serving in an athoritarian racist dictatorship and developing a reputation for being fair and just towards the Indians around him.

Fair ? By entering a back door at a convention and having Indos arrested ?

 

5) Forging a Coalition with some Indians who can win votes.

The AFC is as dead as a doornail. They cannot even hold a major meeting in Berbice. AFC will deliver 5 percent to the coalition

 

Shaitaan Bhai

 

You are backing a dead horse. The PNC is good for 40 Percent and the AFC 5 Percent.

 

The PNC remains a Racist Nationalist Afrocentric Party with 95 Percent Afros voting PNC. This does not sit well with Indos. 

FM
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The PPP are riggers too.  At least the old PNC scheduled the elections then rigged them.

 

The PPP refused to hold local govt. elections for 20 years -that's worse than rigging; that's frigging.

 

Ramotar asked what do you want, national or local elections?

 

The PNC under Granger is different.  He has sidelined the bad elements of the old PNC.

 

Granger is the game-changer.  He has sacrificed much to make this coalition work.  PPP is a current present danger and must be sent to pasture.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Granger's Most Remarkable Achievements:

 

1) Attracting former ROAR Indians to his side.

 The Leader of ROAR is supporting the PPP. That is a fact.

 

2) Reaching out to the Indian population

He has yet to apologize to Indos for his party crimes including rigging and discrimination. 

 

3) Being heads and shoulders above any PPP jaat political opponent.

That is unproven, the electorate will make that decision.

 

4) Serving in an athoritarian racist dictatorship and developing a reputation for being fair and just towards the Indians around him.

Fair ? By entering a back door at a convention and having Indos arrested ?

 

5) Forging a Coalition with some Indians who can win votes.

The AFC is as dead as a doornail. They cannot even hold a major meeting in Berbice. AFC will deliver 5 percent to the coalition

 

Shaitaan Bhai

 

You are backing a dead horse. The PNC is good for 40 Percent and the AFC 5 Percent.

 

The PNC remains a Racist Nationalist Afrocentric Party with 95 Percent Afros voting PNC. This does not sit well with Indos. 

 

 

1. Ravi Dev walked over to the PPP secretly. He still can't even put his name to those editorials he writes as Editor of Guyana Times. He did not even tell his formerly trusted ROAR core members. At least he still has some shame. Ravi Dev's move to the PPP did not bring over to the PPP not a single ROAR member of consequence.

 

2. Granger does not need to apologize for anything as David Granger. The problem with an apology from David Granger and the PNC is that the PPP twats will instead of using it as an opportunity for national unity and reconciliation will use it as a perpetual election hammer on the PNC. Apologies are the first step to reconciliation. The PPP does not believe in reconciliation among Guyana's races because they're cynically determined that that is not in the interest of the PPP as a party. If you don't know this to be true then you obviously don't know the PPP.

 

3. It is quite proven. David Granger held real jobs with real qualifications. He didn't spend his lifetime writing nonsense for the Mirror by regurgitating Pravda for Indian peasants.

 

4. He was fair in how he dealt with subordinate Indians in the GDF. My friend Malcolm offers some interesting anecdotes of David Granger the man. If he hates Indos then he does a really good job of hiding it. And has been doing this charade for decades. I suspect he's not that good of an actor.

 

5. The AFC may not be able to deliver actual Indian votes to the Coalition but they can deliver some other stuff just as valuable. Like legitimacy and a little coolie respectability to cleanse them of their anti-Indian sins. The AFC is also giving the Coalition the perception of victory even to their own traditional supporters. In politics, the perception of victory is often enough to create actual victory (the "Big Mo" as President Bush Sr. once said). Also, the AFC has managed to create a stark choice: Vote PPP or Not. There are many many people who don't like the PPP. 52% of the 2011 Electorate in fact. After anti-PPP people get through the friggin nuisance of hesitating to vote for recent terrorists, we're left looking at the twats of the PPP who are destroying everything in sight (especially the Indian population). Incumbents usually lose office because the people vote AGAINST them and not necessarily FOR their Opposition. The Opposition just has to avoid doing or saying something stupid until Election Day.

FM
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2. Granger does not need to apologize for anything as David Granger. The problem with an apology from David Granger and the PNC is that the PPP twats will instead of using it as an opportunity for national unity and reconciliation will use it as a perpetual election hammer on the PNC. Apologies are the first step to reconciliation. The PPP does not believe in reconciliation among Guyana's races because they're cynically determined that that is not in the interest of the PPP as a party. If you don't know this to be true then you obviously don't know the PPP.

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And that I firmly believe. You are not dealing with a progressive bunch of leaders at Robb Street.

 

FM
Originally Posted by RiffRaff:

That PERCEPTION is key!

 

Dem PPP bais are stuck on their new found love of mathematical computations. Political science is neither science nor art. It's somewhere in between the two and moves dynamically in each election between the two.

 

Right now the PPP is projecting itself as a loser party composed of losers who are doing their damn best to lose. Right now if I was an Indian, I'd stay home or vote for the Coalition knowing full well that staying home is also a vote for the Coalition.

 

The worse that can be said for the Coalition Campaign is that occasionally one of their social media supporters will say something schupid.

 

Most of what happens between now and Election Day is meant to create the perception of victory. And by this measure the PPP is losing badly. They have to hope that the Indians and/or a little vote frigging in selected poll sites save their coolie bacon.

FM
Originally Posted by TK:

2. Granger does not need to apologize for anything as David Granger. The problem with an apology from David Granger and the PNC is that the PPP twats will instead of using it as an opportunity for national unity and reconciliation will use it as a perpetual election hammer on the PNC. Apologies are the first step to reconciliation. The PPP does not believe in reconciliation among Guyana's races because they're cynically determined that that is not in the interest of the PPP as a party. If you don't know this to be true then you obviously don't know the PPP.

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And that I firmly believe. You are not dealing with a progressive bunch of leaders at Robb Street.

 

 

The morons at Freedom House have this very very primitive approach to government and politics.

 

To them everything is about Election Day and the Party. There is nothing else to them. Which is why they have no problems undermining laws, breaking laws, undermining state institutions or just destroying them.

 

They can never ever get the concept of government by laws and not of men. They don't believe in it. They don't even believe in the rudiments of democracy. The fact that they profess a belief in free and fair elections is simply because they have a lock on an ethnic majority vote (for the moment).

 

If there is ever ever a case for a political party being banned from contesting because they fundamentally undermine society, it is the PPP. The PPP is worse than Ebola to a society. They fundamentally believe in things that are to the detriment of any modern society.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

There is a reason why there are so many polling places in homes - good chance for trickery.

 

You know if the PPP loses they will challenge the size of the list as being illegal.

 

Were I the AG, I would already be causing GECOM to quietly make some innocent but potentially critical legal error so I could run to the High Court post-election and nullify the vote if necessary.

 

For example, it is very possible under Guyanese law that the Proclamation for Elections was void ab initio (void from the beginning) since it was issued prior to the Proclamation dissolving Parliament. Any such trivial nonsense can invalidate a Guyanese election. The PNC was kind enough to provide the precedent under Justice Claudette Singh.

FM

If the Coalition wins and the PPP tries to pull a stunt like that to nullify the elections, you know what's going to happen.  They will push people over the edge. 

 

I notice the PSC asking for fair access to the media.  The business community wants a fair process because their assets are on the line if things go awry.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

There is a reason why there are so many polling places in homes - good chance for trickery.

 

You know if the PPP loses they will challenge the size of the list as being illegal.

 

Were I the AG, I would already be causing GECOM to quietly make some innocent but potentially critical legal error so I could run to the High Court post-election and nullify the vote if necessary.

 

For example, it is very possible under Guyanese law that the Proclamation for Elections was void ab initio (void from the beginning) since it was issued prior to the Proclamation dissolving Parliament. Any such trivial nonsense can invalidate a Guyanese election. The PNC was kind enough to provide the precedent under Justice Claudette Singh.

this will be a tightly disputed elections and both sides will complain if they lose

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

If the Coalition wins and the PPP tries to pull a stunt like that to nullify the elections, you know what's going to happen.  They will push people over the edge. 

 

I notice the PSC asking for fair access to the media.  The business community wants a fair process because their assets are on the line if things go awry.

 

You people underestimate the AG. He is pretty good at coming up with barely legal-ish arguments and then having a judge rubber stamp it.

 

The AG is actually one of the best assets the PPP currently has.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

There is a reason why there are so many polling places in homes - good chance for trickery.

 

You know if the PPP loses they will challenge the size of the list as being illegal.

 

Were I the AG, I would already be causing GECOM to quietly make some innocent but potentially critical legal error so I could run to the High Court post-election and nullify the vote if necessary.

 

For example, it is very possible under Guyanese law that the Proclamation for Elections was void ab initio (void from the beginning) since it was issued prior to the Proclamation dissolving Parliament. Any such trivial nonsense can invalidate a Guyanese election. The PNC was kind enough to provide the precedent under Justice Claudette Singh.

this will be a tightly disputed elections and both sides will complain if they lose

 

This is such an unusual election that I suspect we may have to dust out some of the previously unused sections of the electoral laws which cater for unique situations.

 

There is even the chance that we may be in overhang seat territory this election.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

There is a reason why there are so many polling places in homes - good chance for trickery.

 

You know if the PPP loses they will challenge the size of the list as being illegal.

 

Were I the AG, I would already be causing GECOM to quietly make some innocent but potentially critical legal error so I could run to the High Court post-election and nullify the vote if necessary.

 

For example, it is very possible under Guyanese law that the Proclamation for Elections was void ab initio (void from the beginning) since it was issued prior to the Proclamation dissolving Parliament. Any such trivial nonsense can invalidate a Guyanese election. The PNC was kind enough to provide the precedent under Justice Claudette Singh.

this will be a tightly disputed elections and both sides will complain if they lose

 

This is such an unusual election that I suspect we may have to dust out some of the previously unused sections of the electoral laws which cater for unique situations.

 

There is even the chance that we may be in overhang seat territory this election.

the PPP are crafty. They have a plan B. They are quite aware of what is happening in Sri Lanka and they do not want to face that dilemma. They are going to try to suppress the African vote and enhance Indian turnout.

 

You have not yet heard the amount of dirt or framing tactics they have under their sleeves. They intend to scare Indians shit.less to get to the polls. If there is a chance that Granger will be mistaken for not being black you wont miss that with the tar they are geeing ready to hurl his way.

 

I bet the Guyana Revenue Office is on full alert, scouring every opposition member tax records and is not reticent to leverage leans a day or two before elections. The PPP cannot lose this one.

 

If they do and by a large margin they will have to set a few buildings on fire and try to cover their tracks. As I said...the cannot risk losing. This is a death match for them. They will cry foul all the way to seconds before the election is over and will continue scratching and clawing every inch of the way.

FM
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