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Granger supports PPP’s “national alliance policy”

September 1, 2014 | By | Filed Under News 

 

- prepared to sit and talk with ruling party

Some critics got it wrong this time when they assumed that Opposition Leader, David Granger would be worried about government’s recent move in calling for a national alliance, which according to its General Secretary, Clement Rohee, has been well received thus far.

 

In fact, Granger told this publication that he would not seek to checkmate the People’s Progressive Party’s (PPP) move, which apparently came in light of looming early general elections. The Leader of A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) said that he fully supports the policy for he believes that it is quite desirable.

David Granger, Opposition Leader

David Granger, Opposition Leader

Granger asserted that the APNU was established three years ago with the aim of creating a government of national unity but its call was not supported by the PPP at that time, for they were still wedded to the winner-takes-all attitude. And while the Alliance For Change (AFC) did not accept their invitation to join in the pre-election coalition, the politician said that he is “glad” that three years after, the PPP has finally come around to understanding the need for a more consensual approach to governance. He told Kaieteur News, during an exclusive interview, that he welcomes the statements made by the government on this front.

 

“The implications of course I am unaware of, but I do believe that the time has come for us to abandon the winner-takes-all politics and create a government of national unity and bring all the stakeholders into the decision-making forum and move the country forward. I believe that it is a late but necessary step forward,” the Opposition Leader added. He insisted that he does not feel he should take any action to prevent it.

 

While Granger is supporting the “national alliance” principle being promoted by the PPP, he did express keen interest in knowing the full details of the policy. The Opposition Leader said that while Rohee has stated that the Party has spoken to various stakeholders, he has not been approached as yet.

 

Granger was then reminded of the fact that one of his APNU personnel had written a letter that was published in this newspaper which suggested that the recent move is only a political tactic by the PPP to gain a parliamentary majority come next elections.

 

Reminded of this detail, the politician said, “Well, that is why I would like to hear what this is all about because the President has not approached me or taken the need in promoting the concept of multiparty coalitions, and that is what the APNU stands for. If this national alliance is a device to recreate the civic component, which is what they did in 1991, I think it will be a waste of time. However, if they are serious, I am prepared to sit and speak with the PPP.”

 

The Opposition Leader said that although he welcomes the policy and supports it, he would be happy to be apprised of their intentions of making it a reality.

 

Asked if General Elections were to be held early and the opposition is returned with the same “parliamentary majority”, what would be the most likely position of the APNU, Granger said that he strongly believes that the opportunity would have been missed to move Guyana forward by creating a government of national unity, and of course, he would be “disappointed” were the party to be returned with the same results. Granger said that right now, he is confident that between November 2011 and August 2014 more citizens have seen the wisdom of a multiparty coalition in order to solve the problems facing Guyana. Hence he is beyond the shadow of a doubt, convinced that the APNU will get a majority.

 

“The opposition forces, particularly the APNU and any other party that wants to join us will have the majority. Considering everything that has happened since the last three years under President, Donald Ramotar, people will not support his party in the same numbers that they did in 2011, especially when they look at the corruption, the environmental crimes and the unsolved problems that continue to affect foreign direct investment…the people are fed up with the government and President Ramotar’s tenure of office has been a disaster. Quite frankly, the tide has turned against the PPP. Our victory is inevitable,” Granger concluded.

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We have to give government policies a chance to work if that's what it takes. If a new election brings the same result, Guyana will be in a gridlock for an additional five years.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

We have to give government policies a chance to work if that's what it takes. If a new election brings the same result, Guyana will be in a gridlock for an additional five years.

 

PPP is headed for 52 percent. No need to talk to the PNC at this stage.

 

Let your opponent come to you, cup in hand. This is politics.

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

Agree, the PNC needs to return the guns being used by the criminals.

LOL 

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

Agree, the PNC needs to return the guns being used by the criminals.

I thought that was the job of the police, first to determine if the PNC has guns and then to demand their return, with seizure and arrest if it is indeed proven that the PNC does indeed have guns.

 

My friend you are engaging in back door racism because you know full well that people connected to the PPP are very  well armed as well, yet you make no similar demand.

 

Why?

 

This is exactly why there will NEVER be national unity in Guyana.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

Agree, the PNC needs to return the guns being used by the criminals.

I thought that was the job of the police, first to determine if the PNC has guns and then to demand their return, with seizure and arrest if it is indeed proven that the PNC does indeed have guns.

 

My friend you are engaging in back door racism because you know full well that people connected to the PPP are very  well armed as well, yet you make no similar demand.

 

Why?

 

This is exactly why there will NEVER be national unity in Guyana.

Back door racism from loud mouth of AFC.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

Agree, the PNC needs to return the guns being used by the criminals.

I thought that was the job of the police, first to determine if the PNC has guns and then to demand their return, with seizure and arrest if it is indeed proven that the PNC does indeed have guns.

 

My friend you are engaging in back door racism because you know full well that people connected to the PPP are very  well armed as well, yet you make no similar demand.

 

Why?

 

This is exactly why there will NEVER be national unity in Guyana.

This is a master stroke by the PPP. Since 1994, Laurie Lewis told them about the guns and where they are located - some are in mahaicony - Perth and some in Linden.

 

But the PPP sat on the info since they encourage the PNC to unleash violence for fund raising purposes.

 

The PPP want to always paint the PNC as a violent anti east indian party and this is how they win.

FM

Part 1, Part 2 and Part Poo

 

To be fair, we must compare the PPP to PNC part 2 and not part 1

JUNE 12, 2014 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

DEAR EDITOR,
In light of the Rodney Commission of Inquiry (COI) and recent talks in the blogs and letter columns of the need for the PNC to apologise, please allow us – two relatively young people – to share our experiences growing up under the PNC of Mr Desmond Hoyte.
We do not intend to discount the experiences of the older folks who have suffered under the paramountcy of the party and have strongly called for an apology. While we do not seek to diminish the experiences of the older folks, we would like to share our personal experiences as youths growing up under the Hoyte PNC; let’s say PNC part 2.
A brief digression is in order. It is unfortunate that the name of the great Guyanese politician and historian, Dr Walter Rodney, who is most associated with multi-ethnic mobilisation, is now used in his death to divide the country. The Rodney COI should have been done since 1995. Today the PPP is using the name of Rodney to help in its race-baiting agenda of ‘don’t split the votes.’
The first point we would like to impart is we cannot find a single incident of being harassed or victimised by PNC part 2. As young PYO activists we were free to organise and post fliers in South Georgetown during the run-up to the 1992 general election. We cannot think of a single incident of discrimination we faced when applying to UG or seeking a job.
Yes, the Guyana dollar was devalued. That affected everyone regardless of political persuasion. The government of PNC part 2 paid the CXC and GCE ‘O’ Level fees for one of us, as they did for thousands of other students at the time, whose parents found it impossible to raise the Guyana dollar funds after the devaluations.
The father of one writer (Boyo Ramsaroop) was at the time a fierce public critic of the PNC and was widely known to be a diehard Jagan loyalist. Yet President Hoyte invited him to be part of several local and international trade fairs (Miami, Vancouver, etc). The PNC never stopped buying flowers from the Ramsaroop business. In fact, because the flowers were local exotics, the PNC eagerly sought them in order to enhance Guyana’s tourism product. In contrast, government support declined under the PPP (with most of Ramsaroop’s work done gratis), and after the Ramsaroop family joined the AFC, it virtually ceased.
Those who support the PPP today with a racist or opportunistic agenda, try to pretend that the seven years under Hoyte did not exist; that there was no PNC part 2. Gokarran Sukhdeo, in his recent meeting with Brig. Granger in New York said, “To me, an apology without restitution serves no useful purpose, just as an apology for slavery is meaningless without reparation.” (Sukhdeo’s presentation can be read in SN, Monday June 9, under the caption, ‘We are fooling no one with patchwork apologies and bogus reformation’.) Sukhdeo hits the nail on the head here. The Hoyte years precisely constituted the PNC apology.
President Desmond Hoyte virtually reversed everything that occurred under PNC part 1, culminating with free and fair elections! One of his first acts was the removal of the ban on food items that was perceived as having affected Indo-Guyanese mainly. Isn’t that an apology? Hoyte reached out to Indian businesspeople regardless of their political affiliation, as illustrated by the case of Boyo Ramsaroop we mentioned. In fact, this caused Hoyte to be dubbed Desmond Persaud. Doesn’t that constitute an apology also? Hoyte also removed the compulsory aspect of the Guyana National Service that was perceived to be humiliating to Indian women particularly. Isn’t that an apology too?
What about Hoyte’s jailing of the head of the infamous House of Israel, Rabbi Washington? Doesn’t that action speak louder than words? Mind you, this is the same House of Israel under scrutiny in the Rodney COI and one of its founders, Joe Hamilton, is now a high-ranking member of the PPP government. Let us not forget too, it was the PPP who pardoned and released Rabbi Washington.
Dr Dolly Hassan, who was also at the NY meeting with Granger in a recent letter to the press mentioned freedom to criticise the government as if it were something only realised under the PPP. That freedom was granted under Desmond Hoyte. Stabroek News came into existence under his presidency as did CN Sharma’s TV station – of note, is that no independent TV or radio station has been granted a licence since the end of the Hoyte administration in 1992. What Guyana has experienced up to 2001, was a continuation of the Hoyte years – there were no bad policies coming out of the Hoyte administration (PNC part 2) that the PPP had cause to reverse.
In fact, what the PPP had promised was to accelerate the changes begun under Hoyte (among other still unfulfilled promises such as broad-based governance, rooting out corruption, and constitution and security reform). However, particularly after 2001, the PPP has reversed much of what was born in the Hoyte years. This is why today there is rampant corruption (under Hoyte public officials were punished, while the PPP has a long, spotless record of not punishing any high official), out-of-control crime and an ever-widening gap between the rich and poor. Therefore, if we are to be fair, we must compare the PPP to PNC part 2 and not part 1.
Finally, we note Dr Jagan entered into an arrangement with the Burnham PNC (PNC part 1) for PPP activists who went to the Soviet Union to study to obtain jobs with any public entity. Indeed, Mr Jagdeo was one of those activists who obtained a job as an economist through this facility at State Planning under the government of PNC part 2. And the rest is history as they say.
Gerhard Ramsaroop
Tarron Khemraj

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Part 1, Part 2 and Part Poo

 

To be fair, we must compare the PPP to PNC part 2 and not part 1

JUNE 12, 2014 | BY  | FILED UNDER LETTERS 

DEAR EDITOR,
In light of the Rodney Commission of Inquiry (COI) and recent talks in the blogs and letter columns of the need for the PNC to apologise, please allow us – two relatively young people – to share our experiences growing up under the PNC of Mr Desmond Hoyte.
We do not intend to discount the experiences of the older folks who have suffered under the paramountcy of the party and have strongly called for an apology. While we do not seek to diminish the experiences of the older folks, we would like to share our personal experiences as youths growing up under the Hoyte PNC; let’s say PNC part 2.
A brief digression is in order. It is unfortunate that the name of the great Guyanese politician and historian, Dr Walter Rodney, who is most associated with multi-ethnic mobilisation, is now used in his death to divide the country. The Rodney COI should have been done since 1995. Today the PPP is using the name of Rodney to help in its race-baiting agenda of ‘don’t split the votes.’
The first point we would like to impart is we cannot find a single incident of being harassed or victimised by PNC part 2. As young PYO activists we were free to organise and post fliers in South Georgetown during the run-up to the 1992 general election. We cannot think of a single incident of discrimination we faced when applying to UG or seeking a job.
Yes, the Guyana dollar was devalued. That affected everyone regardless of political persuasion. The government of PNC part 2 paid the CXC and GCE ‘O’ Level fees for one of us, as they did for thousands of other students at the time, whose parents found it impossible to raise the Guyana dollar funds after the devaluations.
The father of one writer (Boyo Ramsaroop) was at the time a fierce public critic of the PNC and was widely known to be a diehard Jagan loyalist. Yet President Hoyte invited him to be part of several local and international trade fairs (Miami, Vancouver, etc). The PNC never stopped buying flowers from the Ramsaroop business. In fact, because the flowers were local exotics, the PNC eagerly sought them in order to enhance Guyana’s tourism product. In contrast, government support declined under the PPP (with most of Ramsaroop’s work done gratis), and after the Ramsaroop family joined the AFC, it virtually ceased.
Those who support the PPP today with a racist or opportunistic agenda, try to pretend that the seven years under Hoyte did not exist; that there was no PNC part 2. Gokarran Sukhdeo, in his recent meeting with Brig. Granger in New York said, “To me, an apology without restitution serves no useful purpose, just as an apology for slavery is meaningless without reparation.” (Sukhdeo’s presentation can be read in SN, Monday June 9, under the caption, ‘We are fooling no one with patchwork apologies and bogus reformation’.) Sukhdeo hits the nail on the head here. The Hoyte years precisely constituted the PNC apology.
President Desmond Hoyte virtually reversed everything that occurred under PNC part 1, culminating with free and fair elections! One of his first acts was the removal of the ban on food items that was perceived as having affected Indo-Guyanese mainly. Isn’t that an apology? Hoyte reached out to Indian businesspeople regardless of their political affiliation, as illustrated by the case of Boyo Ramsaroop we mentioned. In fact, this caused Hoyte to be dubbed Desmond Persaud. Doesn’t that constitute an apology also? Hoyte also removed the compulsory aspect of the Guyana National Service that was perceived to be humiliating to Indian women particularly. Isn’t that an apology too?
What about Hoyte’s jailing of the head of the infamous House of Israel, Rabbi Washington? Doesn’t that action speak louder than words? Mind you, this is the same House of Israel under scrutiny in the Rodney COI and one of its founders, Joe Hamilton, is now a high-ranking member of the PPP government. Let us not forget too, it was the PPP who pardoned and released Rabbi Washington.
Dr Dolly Hassan, who was also at the NY meeting with Granger in a recent letter to the press mentioned freedom to criticise the government as if it were something only realised under the PPP. That freedom was granted under Desmond Hoyte. Stabroek News came into existence under his presidency as did CN Sharma’s TV station – of note, is that no independent TV or radio station has been granted a licence since the end of the Hoyte administration in 1992. What Guyana has experienced up to 2001, was a continuation of the Hoyte years – there were no bad policies coming out of the Hoyte administration (PNC part 2) that the PPP had cause to reverse.
In fact, what the PPP had promised was to accelerate the changes begun under Hoyte (among other still unfulfilled promises such as broad-based governance, rooting out corruption, and constitution and security reform). However, particularly after 2001, the PPP has reversed much of what was born in the Hoyte years. This is why today there is rampant corruption (under Hoyte public officials were punished, while the PPP has a long, spotless record of not punishing any high official), out-of-control crime and an ever-widening gap between the rich and poor. Therefore, if we are to be fair, we must compare the PPP to PNC part 2 and not part 1.
Finally, we note Dr Jagan entered into an arrangement with the Burnham PNC (PNC part 1) for PPP activists who went to the Soviet Union to study to obtain jobs with any public entity. Indeed, Mr Jagdeo was one of those activists who obtained a job as an economist through this facility at State Planning under the government of PNC part 2. And the rest is history as they say.
Gerhard Ramsaroop
Tarron Khemraj

Skin up!  

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

Agree, the PNC needs to return the guns being used by the criminals.

I thought that was the job of the police, first to determine if the PNC has guns and then to demand their return, with seizure and arrest if it is indeed proven that the PNC does indeed have guns.

 

My friend you are engaging in back door racism because you know full well that people connected to the PPP are very  well armed as well, yet you make no similar demand.

 

Why?

 

This is exactly why there will NEVER be national unity in Guyana.

This is a master stroke by the PPP. Since 1994, Laurie Lewis told them about the guns and where they are located - some are in mahaicony - Perth and some in Linden.

 

But the PPP sat on the info since they encourage the PNC to unleash violence for fund raising purposes.

 

The PPP want to always paint the PNC as a violent anti east indian party and this is how they win.

LOL back door racism. 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

 

Originally Posted by Cobra:

We have to give government policies a chance to work if that's what it takes. If a new election brings the same result, Guyana will be in a gridlock for an additional five years.

Considering everything that has happened since the last three years under President, Donald Ramotar, people will not support his party in the same numbers that they did in 2011, especially when they look at the corruption, the environmental crimes and the unsolved problems that continue to affect foreign direct investment…the people are fed up with the government and President Ramotar’s tenure of office has been a disaster.

 

Quite frankly, the tide has turned against the PPP. Our victory is inevitable,” Granger concluded.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

 

Originally Posted by Cobra:

We have to give government policies a chance to work if that's what it takes. If a new election brings the same result, Guyana will be in a gridlock for an additional five years.

Considering everything that has happened since the last three years under President, Donald Ramotar, people will not support his party in the same numbers that they did in 2011, especially when they look at the corruption, the environmental crimes and the unsolved problems that continue to affect foreign direct investment…the people are fed up with the government and President Ramotar’s tenure of office has been a disaster.

 

Quite frankly, the tide has turned against the PPP. Our victory is inevitable,” Granger concluded.

 

Like Mr Granger counting sheep? LOL 

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

First things first, Granger needs to return the GUNS!!!!!

Agree, the PNC needs to return the guns being used by the criminals.

I thought that was the job of the police, first to determine if the PNC has guns and then to demand their return, with seizure and arrest if it is indeed proven that the PNC does indeed have guns.

 

My friend you are engaging in back door racism because you know full well that people connected to the PPP are very  well armed as well, yet you make no similar demand.

 

Why?

 

This is exactly why there will NEVER be national unity in Guyana.

This is a master stroke by the PPP. Since 1994, Laurie Lewis told them about the guns and where they are located - some are in mahaicony - Perth and some in Linden.

 

But the PPP sat on the info since they encourage the PNC to unleash violence for fund raising purposes.

 

The PPP want to always paint the PNC as a violent anti east indian party and this is how they win.

Of all the thousands of guns which the PPP passed out to its goon squads you all are babbling about 155 guns passed out MORE THAN 20 years ago.

 

This is back door racism aimed at peddling the paranoia of violent blacks by a PPP which is increasingly desperate.  They can only campaign on race, but see that the Indian population has imploded, so are in full panic mode!

FM

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