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Greenidge to Maduro: ‘Go deal with CARICOM’

By Jomo Paul, July 7, 2015 12:41 pm, Source, [www.inewsguyana.com]

 

The recent move by Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro to recall its Ambassador from Guyana and accuse the government being “offensive” towards Venezuelan has triggered a response from local Foreign Affairs Minister, Carl Greenidge.

Greenidge told reporters that whatever ill-will Maduro may be feeling towards Guyana must be directed to CARICOM.

“So he really barking up the wrong tree, he has to go and deal with CARICOM, what they seem to be trying to do is to isolate Guyana –we said what we had to say and other people were able to see the impact of the decree upon their rights,” said Greenidge.

 

He said CARICOM’s patrimony in terms of the Caribbean and Atlantic maritime resources need to be considered in the wider context of the growing tensions between Guyana and Venezuela.

 

“They are concerned about them so if other people have concern about the impact of the decree on their rights and they pronounce on it, it is to me rather astonishing that Venezuela would take it as we somehow committed some offensive action against them,” he stated.

 

Greenidge reaffirmed the government’s position that Venezuela’s latest claim in illegal and flies in the face of international law and precedents.

 

He pointed out that what Venezuela has done is “illegal internationally and they are seeking to change borders set by themselves and the British and the Brazilians over a hundred years ago.”

 

President David Granger recently lobbied CARICOM which came out in full support of Guyana in the territorial controversy.

 

In Monday’s Congress Maduro claimed that, “Venezuela is coming under new forms of assault and aggression… This is a grave, dangerous situation that we must combat with national unity.”

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Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Greenidge told reporters that whatever ill-will Maduro may be feeling towards Guyana must be directed to CARICOM.

 

“So he really barking up the wrong tree, he has to go and deal with CARICOM, what they seem to be trying to do is to isolate Guyana –we said what we had to say and other people were able to see the impact of the decree upon their rights,” said Greenidge.

 

 

Greenidge to Maduro: ‘Go deal with CARICOM’, By Jomo Paul, July 7, 2015 12:41 pm, Source, [www.inewsguyana.com]

While the language of Venezuela regarding the border issues are indeed troubling, surely Greenidge should know that Guyana, not CARICOM, must always be in the forefront on this issue.

FM

Greenidge isn't ceding the issue to CARICOM.  He is telling Maduro that he cannot play a game attempting to divide CARICOM.  With 14 votes in international forums, CARICOM has influence, especially when it comes to this hemisphere where it accounts for a large % of the sovereign states in the Americas.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The border issues predate the formation of CARICOM.

Guyana is a little country of no significance.  It does not stand a chance in hell unless it has alliances, and in fact this is what prevented the Venezuelan invasion in the 70s.

 

Venezuela will quickly sabotage Guyana if Guyana lacks alliances.  If it fears a relation from 13 other sovereign nations in hemispheric forums, then it will think again before it does so.

FM

Greenidge just letting Maduro know that he just not dealing with Guyana, but the whole CARICOM...which is much more significant than Guyana alone...like Carib says...alliances!!!

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The border issues predate the formation of CARICOM.

Guyana is a little country of no significance.  It does not stand a chance in hell unless it has alliances, and in fact this is what prevented the Venezuelan invasion in the 70s.

 

Venezuela will quickly sabotage Guyana if Guyana lacks alliances.  If it fears a relation from 13 other sovereign nations in hemispheric forums, then it will think again before it does so.

 

The PPP really believed that the President of Guyana had the same rights, privileges, and powers of the U.S President and the British PM. That's their understanding of international relations. A gathering of equals. This is why the PPP believes they can rubbish powerful countries and there SHOULD be no repercussions because we're all equal right?

 

Also, the PPP does not know how to influence multilateral organizations because that is not their political culture. They believe they can only effect influence if they are "Chairman." Recall the celebrations of abbe mudheads when Dr. Jagdeo was routinely made CARICOM Chairman. They believed they had just won some championship and now Guyana has influence in CARICOM.

 

You complained about how the former PPPites now Mosaic Cult behave organizationally in the AFC. They seem to only believe in formal control. I agree. They do not have the requisite skills to maneuver. They have a Stalinist political culture which says "full hierarchical control or nothing." This Coalition required Indos who can maneuver within the whole. These were not them Indians. These Indians believe you need full control and Blacks can have the occasional hug or pat on the head.

 

Look at how the PPP insists on maniacal control over every single Indian organization even the Hindu temples. The local mandir must have a PPP Pandit or we must remove the Pandit. The RPA must be PPP controlled. The list goes on and on. Which is why today, there is not a single Indian organization that is not PPP controlled or destroyed.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The border issues predate the formation of CARICOM.

Guyana is a little country of no significance.  It does not stand a chance in hell unless it has alliances, and in fact this is what prevented the Venezuelan invasion in the 70s.

 

Venezuela will quickly sabotage Guyana if Guyana lacks alliances.  If it fears a relation from 13 other sovereign nations in hemispheric forums, then it will think again before it does so.

CARICOM cannot do anything to Venezuela from military and defence aspect.

 

It is countries like Britain and the US_of_A that have the capabilities; militarily and their presence; to counter Venezuela's actions.

 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

The border issues predate the formation of CARICOM.

Guyana is a little country of no significance.  It does not stand a chance in hell unless it has alliances, and in fact this is what prevented the Venezuelan invasion in the 70s.

 

Venezuela will quickly sabotage Guyana if Guyana lacks alliances.  If it fears a relation from 13 other sovereign nations in hemispheric forums, then it will think again before it does so.

CARICOM cannot do anything to Venezuela from military and defence aspect.

 

It is countries like Britain and the US_of_A that have the capabilities; militarily and their presence; to counter Venezuela's actions.

 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

childish nonsense

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

CARICOM cannot do anything to Venezuela from military and defence aspect.

 

It is countries like Britain and the US_of_A that have the capabilities; militarily and their presence; to counter Venezuela's actions.

 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

Understand something.  Guyana on its own means NOTHING to the UK or to the USA.  14 sovereign nations becomes a whole other issue.  CARICOM is respected as a bloc because they bring 14 votes to almost every scenario.

 

There are 35 sovereign nations in the Americas, 14 are CARICOM.  So any one can get by with only 4 votes from non CARICOM nations and still win at OAS forums.  

 

Venezuela is NOT going to risk sanctions from other nations in the Americas because they invade Guyana.

 

Here is the rub.  The PPP, being the black hating racists that they are, refused to work with CARICOM.  Granger did, and Maduro has had to sing a different tune, in order to save face.  Why?  Because when Venezuela has some fire rage against the USA in hemispheric forums, it will like to know that it has those 14 votes supporting them.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

Why do you think that Mummy England cares about Guyana.  Understand something.  Within the Caribbean the UK only cares about Cuba, Jamaica, DR, and Trinidad, because these are significant markets for UK corporations.  Guyana does not make the list.

 

So continue to think that the UK is going to jeopardize its commercial interests in Latin America, without the cover of CARICOM with its 14 votes!

 

The only reason why any one will notice Guyana is because it is embedded within CARICOM.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

Why do you think that Mummy England cares about Guyana.  Understand something.  Within the Caribbean the UK only cares about Cuba, Jamaica, DR, and Trinidad, because these are significant markets for UK corporations.  Guyana does not make the list.

 

So continue to think that the UK is going to jeopardize its commercial interests in Latin America, without the cover of CARICOM with its 14 votes!

 

The only reason why any one will notice Guyana is because it is embedded within CARICOM.

Britain's agreements with its former colonies is important to understand the issues of protection.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
The only reason why any one will notice Guyana is because it is embedded within CARICOM.

Incorrect.

 

Guyana is noticed and recognized on its own merits.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

So continue to think that the UK is going to jeopardize its commercial interests in Latin America, without the cover of CARICOM with its 14 votes!

Again, incorrect

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

Of note, Britain will intercede to protect a former colony should military actions be are taken against that country.

Within the Caribbean the UK only cares about Cuba, Jamaica, DR, and Trinidad, because these are significant markets for UK corporations.  Guyana does not make the list.

Incorrect, yet again.

FM

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