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Why is our Govt. using imported pine wood?

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Apr 03, 2017

Dear Editor,


The logging community has been sitting in silence for years now whilst the importers of pine lumber are pushing the local lumber producers into extinction. We the organized representatives of the local loggers have sat idly by and allowed this pine wood importation to continue unchecked.Now ply wood from China and Brazil have flooded our local markets due to low importation taxes, and zero grading.
The competition has gone so far that even government contracts and government offices are using pine wood. Shameful! Should we continue to be silent while our lumber industry shunts into extinction?
Our government must remember the jobs that are lost, the skills that are unutilized should we allow this free trade to continue. Let us be more strategic in our approach in developing our beautiful nation.
If we so desire cheap low density wood, let us establish plantations in degraded areas, using our local fast growing species, instead of exotic species.


Promotion of the use of wood for building purposes is paramount to the industry being propelled in a positive direction.
Why can’t we build three, four and five bedrooms houses anymore in Guyana? Why is society so dependent on concrete; which has a negative impact on our health.We are therefore advocating that the astute Government of Guyana implement measures that will impact positively on the forestry sector. The following are some suggestions for considerations in order of importance:


1. Institute high taxes and grading rules on imported lumber and plywood.
2. Remove the VAT from lumber and forest products. It is important that the Government examine the value and volume of timber products produced every year.
The imposition of VAT came at a time when production and market demands are at their lowest in sector. The VAT requirement will only put the market into greater jeopardy.
3. Establish a national processing facility which will purchase logs from small operators for value added processing and marketing. This institution can also conduct training in kiln drying and wood treatment techniques.
4. Provide incentives/support to community groups and companies that want to engage in downstream processing
5. Use only local lumber in Government contracts. Mora and Bulletwood can be substituted for Greenheart.
6. Have representative from small loggers groups on the Board of Direction for forest related agencies.
I am confident that the Government of the Cooperative Republic of Guyana will see the merit in this letter and take speedy action to implement same.


Experienced logger
Charles Thom

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Cries of economy is bad,unemployment..etc,the are importing lumber,what a shame.

In the late 70's,Company I worked for were designing and producing Speaker boxes and Cabinets for radiograms all built from local materials by the skilled Joiner goes by the name of Mac.

I have noticed on youtube video imported Kitchen Cabinets,damn that can be produced in the country.

Shame again on a pack of vision less fools.

Django
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cain posted:

Mr Chin from Cummings street had a small business..he did a lot of work in Bookers prior to me leaving Guyana. 

 

The old folks passed away innovation gone,the new generation wants a gob where they can wear suits and ties,walking around with an attache case selling inferior imported products,bring back Burnham idea produce locally,ban the  products that can be manufactured in the country.

Screw who says PNC days coming back.

Small Business is the engine of growth especially the ones that are in to production,too much stores peddling clothes and food stuff they are the new businessmen.

Django
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Django posted:

Cries of economy is bad,unemployment..etc,the are importing lumber,what a shame.

In the late 70's,Company I worked for were designing and producing Speaker boxes and Cabinets for radiograms all built from local materials by the skilled Joiner goes by the name of Mac.

I have noticed on youtube video imported Kitchen Cabinets,damn that can be produced in the country.

Shame again on a pack of vision less fools.

Pine is a durable wood. Throughout the Caribbean that is what is imported. Guyana wood is only good for the Chinese. They can consume it.

S
Django posted:
 

 

The old folks passed away innovation gone,the new generation wants a gob where they can wear suits and ties,walking around with an attache case selling inferior imported products,bring back Burnham idea ....

Screw who says PNC days coming back.

King Django has taken off his clothes. Those who have eyes to see, let them see.

FM

As far as I am aware, pine trees are specially grown to provide wood for the building trade. It grows very quick, and is easy to process into a finished product.
Most of the trees that we cut down and ship to China is not really house building wood. Ours is of a higher grade, and more valued in expensive furniture making etc. So whilst our loggers are not happy that Guyanese wood is not in high demand compared to the imported wood, they should investigate why consumers are not buying Guyanese wood. It's stupid to complain about the sustainable pine wood, when we don't replant trees in the areas devastated by the Chinese and local loggers.

 

Mr.T

Over the last few months, I spent a lot of time in Guyana and I observed a lot of things which need to be improved. We import so many things that can easily be sourced locally. For example, fruit juices are imported from T&T and Barbados. With all the fruit that can be grown locally, we are importing juices. Surely a local businessman can invest in fruit processing. Peter Ramsaroop had set up the facilities to do it a few years ago when he was anti-PPP but they sent their goons to burn down his facility. Fruit and vegetables are big business on the export market. It's time we look into what can be done to tap into these markets instead of relying so heavily on sugar.

Mars
Mars posted:

Over the last few months, I spent a lot of time in Guyana and I observed a lot of things which need to be improved. We import so many things that can easily be sourced locally. For example, fruit juices are imported from T&T and Barbados. With all the fruit that can be grown locally, we are importing juices. Surely a local businessman can invest in fruit processing. Peter Ramsaroop had set up the facilities to do it a few years ago when he was anti-PPP but they sent their goons to burn down his facility. Fruit and vegetables are big business on the export market. It's time we look into what can be done to tap into these markets instead of relying so heavily on sugar.

An ordered and stuctured supply chain is necessary. My comment is not a racist one. Just to crush the fruit is not all. Chemicals needs to be added. Guyanese  have a doankay damn attitude about work. Just imagine, dey poison the consumers.

Guyana is still a backward place. And there is nothing we can do about it. Basically, we are great at blaming eachother about racial intolerance.

S
skeldon_man posted:
Mr.T posted:

Let's not fool ourselves. As soon as a product is deemed suitable for export, cocaine finds its way into the shipment. And then the supply chain gets cut off.

Thought your PNC has this covered? OOPS!! Sorry, it's a source of fund raising.

Now that you and your family got rich off the cocaine trade you are blaming the PNC. But you had no problem dealing with the PNC when your family was making money of the back of the poor coolies. You suffering from the onset of memory loss?

Mr.T
Mr.T posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mr.T posted:

Let's not fool ourselves. As soon as a product is deemed suitable for export, cocaine finds its way into the shipment. And then the supply chain gets cut off.

Thought your PNC has this covered? OOPS!! Sorry, it's a source of fund raising.

Now that you and your family got rich off the cocaine trade you are blaming the PNC. But you had no problem dealing with the PNC when your family was making money of the back of the poor coolies. You suffering from the onset of memory loss?

Hey dildo head, my family lived in Skeldon and made an honest living working in the sugar cane fields at Skeldon Estate. We earned our livelihood the hard way and I am proud of that. We never saw cannabis or any illegal drugs. That was for you terrorists and thugs from Linden, Buxton and Agricola. I am surre you are speaking from your PERSONAL experience.

FM
Mars posted:

. For example, fruit juices are imported from T&T and Barbados. With all the fruit that can be grown locally, we are importing juices.

Raised this fact during the PPP era and the PPP frauds like Druggie screamed that Guyana cannot do anything without Amaila. I wonder where is the hydrodam in Barbados?

Guyana doesn't even supply these countries with fruit concentrate. They buy from Brazil, Colombia and elsewhere. We prefer to scream and cry about sugar as it provides better scope for a "black man a kill ahbe" rant.

Guysuco could lease lands to farmers to increase our non traditional food exports, and help them to find export markets. We can get a piece of that lucrative soap market alongside Dominica from the cruise industry, as I am sure that that island cannot fully supply.

But no. Sugar even as it drains Guyana of the scarce resources that it has.

FM
caribny posted:
Mars posted:

. For example, fruit juices are imported from T&T and Barbados. With all the fruit that can be grown locally, we are importing juices.

Raised this fact during the PPP era and the PPP frauds like Druggie screamed that Guyana cannot do anything without Amaila. I wonder where is the hydrodam in Barbados?

Guyana doesn't even supply these countries with fruit concentrate. They buy from Brazil, Colombia and elsewhere. We prefer to scream and cry about sugar as it provides better scope for a "black man a kill ahbe" rant.

Guysuco could lease lands to farmers to increase our non traditional food exports, and help them to find export markets. We can get a piece of that lucrative soap market alongside Dominica from the cruise industry, as I am sure that that island cannot fully supply.

But no. Sugar even as it drains Guyana of the scarce resources that it has.

The whole non blackman world is against niggroes.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Mr.T posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mr.T posted:

Let's not fool ourselves. As soon as a product is deemed suitable for export, cocaine finds its way into the shipment. And then the supply chain gets cut off.

Thought your PNC has this covered? OOPS!! Sorry, it's a source of fund raising.

Now that you and your family got rich off the cocaine trade you are blaming the PNC. But you had no problem dealing with the PNC when your family was making money of the back of the poor coolies. You suffering from the onset of memory loss?

Hey dildo head, my family lived in Skeldon and made an honest living working in the sugar cane fields at Skeldon Estate. We earned our livelihood the hard way and I am proud of that. We never saw cannabis or any illegal drugs. That was for you terrorists and thugs from Linden, Buxton and Agricola. I am surre you are speaking from your PERSONAL experience.

Look, whatever that female relative of you told you about sucking my head, it's none of your business.

You call trading in cocaine hard work? Which part of it?

Mr.T
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

GuySuco should invest in tourism.  Offer Rides through the canals to the factories and let Guyanese and others get a feel of our history going back to the days of slavery. There is money to be made if done professionally.  How about Horse Riding in National Park. 

Dem canecutters will rob the tourists. Off hand I can't name a single honest and trustworthy canecutter.

Mr.T

backward indeed, one needs to present an ID card to uplift a new passport and 2. a passport that is not valid cannot identify you at the bank, any passport that has expired within one year should be valid for an ID, that is....expired Feb 12, 2017 should be valid for ID up to Feb. 11, 2018. Where there is no vision, the people perish-Proverbs 29:18

FM
Mr.T posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

GuySuco should invest in tourism.  Offer Rides through the canals to the factories and let Guyanese and others get a feel of our history going back to the days of slavery. There is money to be made if done professionally.  How about Horse Riding in National Park. 

Dem canecutters will rob the tourists. Off hand I can't name a single honest and trustworthy canecutter.

Indian canecutters or Afro canecutters?????

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

GuySuco should invest in tourism.  Offer Rides through the canals to the factories and let Guyanese and others get a feel of our history going back to the days of slavery. There is money to be made if done professionally.  How about Horse Riding in National Park. 

Name the ride, 'How to kill a thriving industry".

K
kp posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

GuySuco should invest in tourism.  Offer Rides through the canals to the factories and let Guyanese and others get a feel of our history going back to the days of slavery. There is money to be made if done professionally.  How about Horse Riding in National Park. 

Name the ride, 'How to kill a thriving industry".

LUCKY STRIKE

Billy Ram Balgobin
Mr.T posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mr.T posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mr.T posted:

Let's not fool ourselves. As soon as a product is deemed suitable for export, cocaine finds its way into the shipment. And then the supply chain gets cut off.

Thought your PNC has this covered? OOPS!! Sorry, it's a source of fund raising.

Now that you and your family got rich off the cocaine trade you are blaming the PNC. But you had no problem dealing with the PNC when your family was making money of the back of the poor coolies. You suffering from the onset of memory loss?

Hey dildo head, my family lived in Skeldon and made an honest living working in the sugar cane fields at Skeldon Estate. We earned our livelihood the hard way and I am proud of that. We never saw cannabis or any illegal drugs. That was for you terrorists and thugs from Linden, Buxton and Agricola. I am surre you are speaking from your PERSONAL experience.

Look, whatever that female relative of you told you about sucking my head, it's none of your business.

You call trading in cocaine hard work? Which part of it?

Would you be surprised if I told you that it's one of your siblings?

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Can Guyana lobby the cola companies to use cane sugar in their drinks instead corn syrup?  I'm talking about beverages sold in the local market.

I don't know much about sweet drinks, colas etc I am not into much of that but if Corn syrup is being used..well corn is mostly GMO that in itself is a huge negative.

cain
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Mars posted:

Over the last few months, I spent a lot of time in Guyana and I observed a lot of things which need to be improved. We import so many things that can easily be sourced locally. For example, fruit juices are imported from T&T and Barbados. With all the fruit that can be grown locally, we are importing juices. Surely a local businessman can invest in fruit processing. Peter Ramsaroop had set up the facilities to do it a few years ago when he was anti-PPP but they sent their goons to burn down his facility. Fruit and vegetables are big business on the export market. It's time we look into what can be done to tap into these markets instead of relying so heavily on sugar.

you stupidie bad bad. No wonder your life is to be on this forum running your mouth. If you had sense you would know that Guyanese are their own worse enemies. They would rather consume foreign than buy local. That is why Burham ban all them foreign goods previously but to his own detriment. 

FM

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