So let me get this, the PPP is complaining that export has declined, but the actual figures say otherwise. How many more lies is the PPP spreading?

I realize that you are a little slow so I will be patient. The PPP are not complaining about quantity of export, they are complaining that Granger use Albouystown tactics to destroy the Petro Carib deal which was a preferential market for rice. 

i suspect most of us who are not bt sellers would prefer "Albouystown tactics" in response to Venezuela's Decree 1787 rather than fellating Maduro harder which u seem to recommend

no?

A bit more statesmanship would have been better rather than publicly berating the Maduro. Apparently Granger's upbringing did not include proper etiquette training. Instead he chose combative words rather than diplomacy knowing fully well that Guyana had more to lose. But he is not very concerned as it is the Indians that bear the brunt of these actions.   

translated . . . you'd prefer to suck Maduro's dick

good for u

This might be appropriate for a schoolyard fight but not when you are leading a country and your actions have real consequences on peoples lives. But I don't expect you to understand this as ego is more important than responsible behavior in your mind.

i prefer irresponsible "Albouystown tactics" rather than sucking dick like u and bharat dem

story done

You never have anything intelligent to say??

And yet it is revealed that Venezuela since 2014 signaled that they weren't going to buy rice from Guyana.

When one sees that they were paying DOUBLE the world price, and with Venezuela broke as ever, why the shock that this is their decision.  They can use the same $ and buy DOUBLE the supply from elsewhere!

You do know that Venezuela is a bankrupt nation, with runaway inflation, and very high national debt.

Druggie go scream at Hassan that he is lying.

Maduro had no intention of buying Guyanese rice after November 2015.  Guyana rice is too expensive and he can no longer afford it.

And in fact rumors were earlier in the year that Petro Caribe was going to be tossed. It is only remaining because this is the only tool which Venezuela has to exert influence on its smaller Caribbean and Central American neighbors.

In any case with prices where they are now, and with the expectation that there will be limited increase in the near term, I don't even know how valuable Petro Caribe is now.

There is no documented evidence of this claim. Granger et al did not provide evidence nor did the PPP concur. The fact is that after Granger went on a rant about Maduro the Venezuelans notified the afc/apnu administration about the cancellation of the deal as retribution for the Buxton badman attitude of Granger. Show us the evidence rather than claims by the afc/apnu to cover up Granger's lack of diplomacy.

Has the PPP denied the claim that Maduro would not extend his purchases after November?  No. 

All they scream is that Granger should go and beg him to extend, as the PPP did every time Venezuela threatened not to end it.

World prices are $390, and they pay Guyana $780.  Clearly Venezuela is no longer able to support Guyanese inefficiency.  It was obvious that a point in time will come when Venezuela woudl have had to change. 

A deal that was workable when oil was $100 CANNOT work when oil is $40.  But you are an idiot so you cannot understand this.  Venezuela is broke.

http://panampost.com/sabrina-m...s-hunger-takes-over/

 Your illiteracy and stupidity blinds you to the fact that Venezuela has serious issues, and is compelled to but rice from cheaper sources to feed its people.

All this ranting and raving but you have yet to provide the evidence. There must be some article in some obscure paper at least to back up your claim. Good luck on finding this as we all know that it was the crass Granger that caused the petro carib deal to fall apart. 

Here is the evidence.  Jagdeo did NOT refute Hassan when he made the claim that Venezuela was going to end the deal.  If the APNU AFC and the acting GM of GRDB are lying, why isnt the PPP exposing them.

I do suspect that Hassan was at GRDB during the PPP era.

Only an idiot like you would claim that comments made by the HEAD of GRDB is "obscure".

Never heard of this claim by Hassan. In fact he is a recent appointee who would say anything to appease his new masters. 

Dem bais don't concern themselves with evidence. Dem bais just happy with making shit up.

The PPP has yet to claim that Venezuela wasn't going to stop buying Guyanese rice.

Oil is down 50%, Venezuela is broke, the people are starving, and yet you seem shocked that Venezuela wouldn't try to find cheaper sources for the staple food of most Venezuelans.

So why hasn't the PPP screamed that it is a lie and that Venezuela was planning to extend the purchase of rice?

They scream about just about every thing else.

Every year the deal is renegotiated as per Ramsammy. Granger's Buxton badman attitude on a world stage ruined any chance of keeping the deal going. 

See below excerpt from Leslie

At no time did we agree that the 2015 Rice Deal was the last deal between our countries. It is true that each year, we discuss the possibility that Venezuela might not need to import as much paddy and rice as they were doing at the time because the Venezuelan Rice Industry might pick up again.
As a backdrop to each negotiation, this assertion that Venezuelan Rice was going to be successful again was always raised. In 2012 and each year after, Venezuela approached the discussion as if they were not going to need to import as much paddy and rice as they were doing at the time.
I suspect that it was not different again this time. Guyana’s position with Venezuela throughout those discussions was always based on a very sensitive approach – we were supportive of Venezuela’s efforts to resuscitate its own rice industry and we fully appreciate that when that resuscitation occurred that Venezuela would not be able to continue buying Guyana’s rice and paddy.
We reiterated those sentiments during the 2015 discussions earlier in the year before we started the 2015 contract. The inclusion by Venezuela of their intention to resuscitate their own rice industry and Guyana’s understanding that when that time comes the Venezuelan market for Guyana’s rice and paddy would shrink were always part of the preliminary discussions in finalising the market.
The present situation with the collapse of the Rice Deal has to do with the present tense situation between the countries.
I hope that the markets I was developing and that the GRDB and the rice millers were working on would be further developed. Guyana can sell more than 700,000 tons if we allow the industry to continue the work it did before the new government took over.
The new government had promised during the elections that they had markets that would pay farmers more than $9,000 per bag of paddy.
They had boasted that some of their people had in fact developed the Venezuelan market and had markets all over the world, but that the PPP/C Government was suffocating them from being able to export Guyana’s rice and paddy.
Well, some rice farmers did listen to them. Now is APNU+AFC’s chance to put in place their markets, their price structures and to show the farmers that they were not lying to them during the election campaign.
This is not the time for them to use Venezuela as an excuse. This is not the time for them to cast blame on others. The industry needs good stewardship in order to continue to grow. That stewardship requires a strong Government support – a support that the PPP/C gave fully.

 

har de har har har

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...ers-also-claimed-by/

And yet we see that relationships began to unravel BEFORE the election.

1.  Venezuela threatening Guyana.

2.  Carol Rodriguez-Birkett telling Maduro to haul his ass.

Immediately after the elections Maduro prints a map which made Guyana a land locked country, and now you scream that Granger was wrong.

Do you imagine that Maduro, having the ability NOT to renew the rice deal, would have done so had Guyana allowed Exxon to continue to explore.

In addition Leslie did NOT say that Venezuela agreed to continue beyond 2015.  Even he admitted that every year began with the expectation that Venezuela wouldn't renew.

So druggie why then is the rice industry so dependent on a market which can disappear at any time?

I am not sure of your motive for defending the Granger administration. What is for affinity to these new bunch of crooks? 

Jack must wear his jacket. Your coulda woulda scenarios hold no water. The fact is that Guyana under the PPP had issues with Venezuela in the past and managed to get past it while securing the rice deal and diplomatic relationship with that nation. 

Granger on the other hand lacks statesmanship, he is only accustomed to shouting through a bull horn to rabid supporters to kill and burn Indian property. He tried the same tactics on Venezuela and the rice farmers paid the price, losing a deal secured by the PPP. 

To suggest that I defend Granger is a joke, given my comments about their salary increase, inept approach to solving crime, the fact that it is an administration of ageing cronies, and that they are unimaginative. lacing innovation and dumb.

Having said that I will give Granger credit for standing up to Maduro and for bringing the issue to the forefront. The only weapon Guyana has is diplomacy and a loud mouth.

You prefer the PPP approach.  "Me sarry dat dem Americans come and try to tief yu oil, but please buy me rice.  Yes every year me haffuh beg you to do dat, but nobady else wan' me rice.  If you want me gun tell Exxon don come back here no more".

Guyana is in no position to be confrontational with Venezuela as they don't have the military might to backup any of Granger's rhetoric.  Granger is depending on the US to rush in to Guyana's rescue, but what if they don't?As we see the US have no appetite for wars with nations that are no direct threat to America's national security  

The funny thing is that, had the PPP won, Exxon would have been driven out, and the PPP would have lied about it.

Did the PPP tell the rice farmers that it was a year to year deal, and that it was only up to Venezuela to decide whether they would renew or not?  Did any one factor that a broke Venezuela couldn't justify paying 2X the price for rice than what they could obtain it for elsewhere?

Venezuela is an ENEMY of Guyana and they showed this in 2013 when they invaded Guyana, attacked Guyanese, and destroyed their property.  Did the PPP demand and receive an apology and compensation? 

What did Guyana do in 2013 to provoke an attack.  Even a jackass like you should understand that this shows that Guyana isn't dealing with a reasonable country?

As I mentioned previously, diplomacy is paramount when dealing with a nation that could crush the cowards in the GDF in a few seconds. Remember how the GDF stood by and couldn't even stop a few gunmen during the killing of Leo Ryan at Jonestown? So all the big talk by Granger can not be backed up. In fact his only hope if for US intervention, which it will not do unless a threat to the US national security is involved. 

Exxon is there because it is a US company, it has nothing to do with Granger's immature rhetoric. 

are you high?

Drugby is a self confessed mule.

Yes.  "Me sarry dat we cuss you out in March by telling you dat Exxon has a right to be dere.  Ow man, jus buy we rice nuh. 

We gun tell Exxon to go away. Dem is just American imperialists. We didn't plan to keep dem.  Is jus dat election was coming and so we had to fool up dem stupid Guyanese wid something.

In fact come tek de oil".

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...ers-also-claimed-by/

This is your response/justification for Granger's blunder?  I never thought I would see the day when you would be stumped and struggle to justify a glaring wrong by your president. 

How did Granger blunder?  In fact you cannot say.

In March the PPP had to tell him to back off, after he threatened to evict Exxon as he did to another vessel in 2013.  After it was discovered that Guyana had large amounts of oil, the man went ballistic, printing maps, screaming, and then running over to Colombia to threaten them. Deporting any Colombians as well.

Maduro has a problem and that is more than 70% of the population hate him.  The last thing that he would want is to see a financially prosperous Guyana, after he made the previously impoverished Colombia more economically viable than his own country.

Now resume your kneeling position so you cfould suck Maduro's you know what, because that seems to be your idea of diplomacy.  Begging and submission!