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Guyana heading for narco-statehood; govt lukewarm about drug trade - Wikileaks
Written by Demerara Waves Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:47

The United States (US) badly wants a Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) office in Guyana because the South American country is approaching narco-statehood, already resulting in drug seeping into almost all layers of the society. “Post requests the formal establishment of a DEA office at Embassy Georgetown. Guyana is well on its way to narco-statehood - a prospect that poses a real threat to U.S. interests,” said then American ambassador, Roland Bullen. The cable was dispatched on May 24, 2006 to, among others, the US Secretary of State, DEA Headquarters in Washington. "The level of narco-trafficking influence on the political, judicial and economic systems in Guyana creates ripe conditions for the emergence of a narco- state,” the Grenada-born ambassador told his principals as well as counterparts in Trinidad, Suriname and Venezuela.

The American envoy believed that a DEA presence in Guyana would significantly improve the US government’s ability to fight drug trafficking in Guyana. Bullen noted that while Guyana, with a population of 750,000 people and an official Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of less than US$1 billion does not attract much US government attention, narco-traffickers regarded Guyana where they can “operate with impunity” partly because of its geography, law enforcement corruption and a government that is less than enthusiastic about smashing the drug trade. “They see a country with porous borders, corrupt and ineffective law enforcement, little or no control over its airspace, vast swaths of uncontrolled land, ready access to the Caribbean, North America, and Europe, and a government that has been lukewarm about clamping down on the drug trade,” Bullen said in his missive.

In an earlier cable dated January 6, 2006, Bullen noted that the two countries have been talking about setting up a DEA office here since 1999 and questioned the Guyana government’s sincerity in wanting one. “The current stumbling block is the GoG's inability or reluctance to give approval for basic logistical details. Post's position remains the same - the USG is ready to work with and advise the GoG as soon as the GoG is fully prepared to move forward in its fight against narco-trafficking.” The Guyana government has, over the years, complained bitterly that countries like the US have been reluctant to provide enough funding and other rescources to combat the narco-trade. Guyana expects support through the one-year old US-Caribbean Basin Secuity Initiative (CBSI) to fight the narcotics trade and money laundering.

In the May 24, 2006 cable, the American envoy described as “an especially disturbing development” was Guyana’s involvement in “drugs for arms; financing for insurgent groups like the FARC throughout the region. In addition, large-scale Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC) infiltration into Venezuela has led to their playing a significant role in narcotics smuggling activities on the Guyana/Venezuela border, he said. The US embassy’ primary objective in 2008 of disrupting criminal organisations was, he said, difficult by the lack of a permanent DEA presence in Guyana. The office in Trinidad is fully pre-occupied with the counter-narcotics initiatives in their host nation.

Describing the narco-situation in Guyana as “severe”, he said the DEA could work more effectively to accomplish the critical MPP counter-narcotics objectives and provide more sustained support to local law enforcement agencies in Guyana. The DEA was expected to establish a vetted counter-narcotics unit in Guyana but the ambassador told the Secretary of State that he was worried that it could become infected by corruption. “An important challenge facing this unit is the pervasive corruption in the country, which has undermined previous Guyanese counter-narcotics initiatives,” he said, adding that establishing a DEA office will allow close and constant monitoring of the vetted unit to help alleviate this problem.”

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There is the possibility that a DEA office in Guyana can play a positive role in Guyana. But it must be noted that the DEA has one of its largest operations in Colombia, and also receiving assistance from the US military presence there; yet more cocaine is produced in Colombia eyery year and a corresponding larger amount is shipped to the US and passes through US Customs rather easily.
FM
Over the past 8 months of 2011, the Colombian Govt along with the help of the DEA confiscated over 89 tons of drugs in Colombian , destroyed over 79,000 acres of illicit crops , thousands of clandestine airstrips , 250 narco labs and 30 organizations which deal in narco operations . Fact of the matter is , once a country has a weak and corrupted govt , a society deeply divided socially economically etc the entire army of the US , Canada , UK , France etc could not stop drugs .

If a person is working and filing income of $200,000. and owns a mansion worth hundreds of millions and a luxury cars then not only is the math wrong but it is a clear case of corruption. Look at Guyana Govt official and employees , figure their income and compare with their lifestyle and you have a country where money trees actually grow money.

Average moderate middle class income in Guyana is maybe G$185,000. to G$210,000. per month while the basic monthly costs of rent , electric ,. phone , rations , travel cost about G$165,0000. to $185,000. how de ra55 dem bais could buy multi million dolla house and luxury vehicle , plus gat wan sweet homan pun de side ?

I remember back in the 1970's many airstrips used to pop up in the northwest , Jonestown used to cultivate marijuana and export to Panama.

Today, Guyana is fast growing to become a narco state where the political leaders , govt , civil service and business community will become subjected to the power , influence and rule of drug cartels .

What Guyana needs now more than anything is :

1. A govt of inclusive democracy .
2. A zero tolerance for corruption .
3. An organization to investigate corruption .
4. A highly specialized crime fighting machine .
5. Start prosecuting officials , businessmen , citizens who launder money .

Include citizens through local govt and get a each one watch wan policy going.
FM
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Can you imagine what it might be like, if the DEA was not present?



I have many friends from Colombia who are ex military and were forced to leave Colombia because members of their family were executed . In fact , last wednesday I had lunch with a few of them and we were commenting on Guyana and Suriname as emerging narco states. Some of these expat military and police are now migrating to europe where european anti drug police are hiring them .
FM
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Originally posted by Daren David:
There is the possibility that a DEA office in Guyana can play a positive role in Guyana. But it must be noted that the DEA has one of its largest operations in Colombia, and also receiving assistance from the US military presence there; yet more cocaine is produced in Colombia eyery year and a corresponding larger amount is shipped to the US and passes through US Customs rather easily.

It's a large country with a big part of it under Farc control. Also, look at Afgan, with over 100k troops, opium production continues unabated. In Guyana we have a few big middlemen fueling the trade through Guyana. The DEA could create a choke point and be very disruptive to the drug lords. However, I agree, don't expect miracles.
FM
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D. david: There is the possibility that a DEA office in Guyana can play a positive role in Guyana. But it must be noted that the DEA has one of its largest operations in Colombia, and also receiving assistance from the US military presence there; yet more cocaine is produced in Colombia eyery year and a corresponding larger amount is shipped to the US and passes through US Customs rather easily.


You must nip it in the bud before this cancer reaches the Colombia stage. Another issue is the Colombia govt along with US assistance has made significant progress against the drugs empire. It is one of the reasons why the drug lords have moved to weaker states in Central America. It is also one of the reasons why they are taking over in Mexico. Guyana don't have the capacity to fight this cancer. Guyana is more dangerous than it has ever been because of these people. Thanks to the PPP for nurturing them since 1992.
T
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
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D. david: There is the possibility that a DEA office in Guyana can play a positive role in Guyana. But it must be noted that the DEA has one of its largest operations in Colombia, and also receiving assistance from the US military presence there; yet more cocaine is produced in Colombia eyery year and a corresponding larger amount is shipped to the US and passes through US Customs rather easily.


You must nip it in the bud before this cancer reaches the Colombia stage. Another issue is the Colombia govt along with US assistance has made significant progress against the drugs empire. It is one of the reasons why the drug lords have moved to weaker states in Central America. It is also one of the reasons why they are taking over in Mexico. Guyana don't have the capacity to fight this cancer. Guyana is more dangerous than it has ever been because of these people. Thanks to the PPP for nurturing them since 1992.




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FM
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
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D. david: There is the possibility that a DEA office in Guyana can play a positive role in Guyana. But it must be noted that the DEA has one of its largest operations in Colombia, and also receiving assistance from the US military presence there; yet more cocaine is produced in Colombia eyery year and a corresponding larger amount is shipped to the US and passes through US Customs rather easily.


You must nip it in the bud before this cancer reaches the Colombia stage. Another issue is the Colombia govt along with US assistance has made significant progress against the drugs empire. It is one of the reasons why the drug lords have moved to weaker states in Central America. It is also one of the reasons why they are taking over in Mexico. Guyana don't have the capacity to fight this cancer. Guyana is more dangerous than it has ever been because of these people. Thanks to the PPP for nurturing them since 1992.




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Why must we vote PPP when Mr Ramotar is a Putin-like surrogate? He was hand picked by the Oligarch-in-Chief.
T
Fact is narc trade is big busk and it wont stop unless and until societies take a firmer stand against users or esle , legitimize and regulate it and take the crime out of it. These guys will move to country where the govt is weak and the economies are poor . Guyana is perfect , the govt is like not having a govt , the law is corrupt , civil service administration is corrupt , the country is racially/ethniccally divided , 85% of the country is hinterland and uninhabited the borders are pourous and the economy is pi55 poor . PERFECT CONDITIONS FOR NARCO TRADE !
FM
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Originally posted by kidmost:
Fact is narc trade is big busk and it wont stop unless and until societies take a firmer stand against users or esle , legitimize and regulate it and take the crime out of it. These guys will move to country where the govt is weak and the economies are poor . Guyana is perfect , the govt is like not having a govt , the law is corrupt , civil service administration is corrupt , the country is racially/ethniccally divided , 85% of the country is hinterland and uninhabited the borders are pourous and the economy is pi55 poor . PERFECT CONDITIONS FOR NARCO TRADE !

Yea man, datts why a lil DEA office and surveillance, etc would help. However, for te reasons you mentioned, and even with a cooperative Govt, it will never be fully stamped out. The goal is to keep in on the low and not be an integral part of the economy.
FM
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
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Originally posted by asj:
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
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D. david: There is the possibility that a DEA office in Guyana can play a positive role in Guyana. But it must be noted that the DEA has one of its largest operations in Colombia, and also receiving assistance from the US military presence there; yet more cocaine is produced in Colombia eyery year and a corresponding larger amount is shipped to the US and passes through US Customs rather easily.


You must nip it in the bud before this cancer reaches the Colombia stage. Another issue is the Colombia govt along with US assistance has made significant progress against the drugs empire. It is one of the reasons why the drug lords have moved to weaker states in Central America. It is also one of the reasons why they are taking over in Mexico. Guyana don't have the capacity to fight this cancer. Guyana is more dangerous than it has ever been because of these people. Thanks to the PPP for nurturing them since 1992.




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Why must we vote PPP when Mr Ramotar is a Putin-like surrogate? He was hand picked by the Oligarch-in-Chief.


sachin_05
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Originally posted by kidmost:
Fact is narc trade is big busk and it wont stop unless and until societies take a firmer stand against users or esle , legitimize and regulate it and take the crime out of it. These guys will move to country where the govt is weak and the economies are poor . Guyana is perfect , the govt is like not having a govt , the law is corrupt , civil service administration is corrupt , the country is racially/ethniccally divided , 85% of the country is hinterland and uninhabited the borders are pourous and the economy is pi55 poor . PERFECT CONDITIONS FOR NARCO TRADE !


So you are saying that the AFC will not make a difference in the Narco trade? These boys claim they will clean up the country of drugs. Even the citizens will stop using drugs under their rule. They should patent this technique of eradicating drugs and sell it to countries all over the world where the drug trade and usage is a scourge on society.
FM
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:

Why must we vote PPP when Mr Ramotar is a Putin-like surrogate?

He was hand picked by the Oligarch-in-Chief.


It is an extremely simple matter that individuals vote for their choice.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
quote:
Originally posted by kidmost:
Fact is narc trade is big busk and it wont stop unless and until societies take a firmer stand against users or esle , legitimize and regulate it and take the crime out of it. These guys will move to country where the govt is weak and the economies are poor . Guyana is perfect , the govt is like not having a govt , the law is corrupt , civil service administration is corrupt , the country is racially/ethniccally divided , 85% of the country is hinterland and uninhabited the borders are pourous and the economy is pi55 poor . PERFECT CONDITIONS FOR NARCO TRADE !


So you are saying that the AFC will not make a difference in the Narco trade? These boys claim they will clean up the country of drugs. Even the citizens will stop using drugs under their rule. They should patent this technique of eradicating drugs and sell it to countries all over the world where the drug trade and usage is a scourge on society.

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing. Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing.

Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.


Questions Baseman .. Big Grin

1. How long has drugs/narcotic existed in the US-of-A?

2. What is the current drugs/narcotic issues in the US-of-A?

3. Which countries have major drugs/narcotic issues?
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing.

Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.


Questions Baseman .. Big Grin

1. How long has drugs/narcotic existed in the US-of-A?

2. What is the current drugs/narcotic issues in the US-of-A?

3. Which countries have major drugs/narcotic issues?


As usual you want to deflect and derail this thread. Read the question again and you will see that Guyana Narco Statehood is the topic at hand.

You can start your own thread with your questions or better yet, you should do your own research.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing.

Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.


Questions Baseman .. Big Grin

1. How long has drugs/narcotic existed in the US-of-A?

2. What is the current drugs/narcotic issues in the US-of-A?

3. Which countries have major drugs/narcotic issues?


One academic study published in 2010 estimated the underground economy in Guyana to be as large as the official economy. If drugs account for 50% of the Guyana underground economy just imagine the amount of funds generated in this illegal manner. On the other hand, the US underground economy is estimated to be about 9% of GDP. Hence, your question is comparing a apple with a genip.
T
Why do these PPP milk drinkers use the US as a model upon which Guyana is based? Why don't they use say Suriname or French Guyana, or even India? Guyana is now the largest exporter of cocaine on the east coast of South America and also has the most corrupt government on the South American mainland facing the Atlantic.
Mr.T
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Originally posted by Mr.T:
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
Hence, your question is comparing a apple with a genip.

Bai a genip has a big seed. The question was posed by a seedless individual.


Big Grin strongman
T
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing.

Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.


Questions Baseman .. Big Grin

1. How long has drugs/narcotic existed in the US-of-A?

2. What is the current drugs/narcotic issues in the US-of-A?

3. Which countries have major drugs/narcotic issues?


One academic study published in 2010 estimated the underground economy in Guyana to be as large as the official economy. If drugs account for 50% of the Guyana underground economy just imagine the amount of funds generated in this illegal manner. On the other hand, the US underground economy is estimated to be about 9% of GDP. Hence, your question is comparing a apple with a genip.


TK, Thanks for spoon feeding this milk drinker. Big Grin
Mitwah
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing.

Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.


Questions Baseman .. Big Grin

1. How long has drugs/narcotic existed in the US-of-A?

2. What is the current drugs/narcotic issues in the US-of-A?

3. Which countries have major drugs/narcotic issues?


One academic study published in 2010 estimated the underground economy in Guyana to be as large as the official economy. If drugs account for 50% of the Guyana underground economy just imagine the amount of funds generated in this illegal manner.

On the other hand, the US underground economy is estimated to be about 9% of GDP.

Hence, your question is comparing a apple with a genip.


Your input does not address the questions.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:

Cannot promise drug-free utopia, but sure as hell will be more open to US assistance in intradiction and information sharing.

Known drug king pins will not be walking and living in the open high and dry as the do today.


Questions Baseman .. Big Grin

1. How long has drugs/narcotic existed in the US-of-A?

2. What is the current drugs/narcotic issues in the US-of-A?

3. Which countries have major drugs/narcotic issues?


One academic study published in 2010 estimated the underground economy in Guyana to be as large as the official economy. If drugs account for 50% of the Guyana underground economy just imagine the amount of funds generated in this illegal manner.

On the other hand, the US underground economy is estimated to be about 9% of GDP.

Hence, your question is comparing a apple with a genip.


Your input does not address the questions.


Perhaps, perhaps not. Big Grin lol
T
All of this tells you these are truly serious criminals. When the say the want you dead and some of them has said so to me ( street smart et al whom we know work at the OP); I take them seriously.
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
All of this tells you these are truly serious criminals. When the say the want you dead and some of theme has said so to me ( street smart et al whom we know work at the OP); I take them seriously.


The trend has started, recent robberies show the bandits kill the non-resisting victims, before robbing them.
The violence has not got to the stages of Jamaica. If a turn around could take place immediately with a serious goverment in office, maybe Guyana could still see a bright future.
Tola
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Originally posted by Tola:
quote:
Originally posted by D2:
All of this tells you these are truly serious criminals. When the say the want you dead and some of theme has said so to me ( street smart et al whom we know work at the OP); I take them seriously.


The trend has started, recent robberies show the bandits kill the non-resisting victims, before robbing them.
The violence has not got to the stages of Jamaica. If a turn around could take place immediately with a serious goverment in office, maybe Guyana could still see a bright future.
I am more speaking to the PPP itself and their death squads for hire rather than the common criminal whose attack on your person would be serendipitous. Note Fineman was apprenticed to RK before his defection to the other side or rather to his own side.
FM
The minute BJ leaves office he ceases to be untouchable,the US State Dept will open their files on him and his colleagues in guyana and the USA at which point, he can be picked up while in the USA. No need to wonder why the PPP Govt never made extradition agreements with the USA. This is a law the AFC has to push for to be passed if they can ever hope to see crime drop in Guyana.

I see a new list of more of his staunch supporters and financial conduits in the USA under investigation and the names will shock you, while many of his cohorts in Guyana will be denied visas. The US State Dept is also working closely with Canadian authorities to start investigations into some of his close confidential friends in Canada as well.

So i guess the iceberg wont sink the titanic until after elections . I see many of BJ's buddies distancing themselves from him and his crew both in the USA and Canada already and dont be surprised in Guyana too.

Big Sh1t is about to hit the fan and you aint heard it from me.
FM
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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
Mr Roger Khan and the gov’t

Posted By Stabroek staff On September 5, 2011 @ 5:01 am In Editorial | No Comments

No matter the amount of times the government pleads ignorance and blusters, the stinging questions about convicted drug lord/phantom squad organizer, Mr Roger Khan and his connections to its senior officials will persist. It will dog the PPP in much the same way that the PNC has been harried over rigged elections.

Last week’s revelations via whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks presented the already well-known parameters that hemmed in Mr Khan and created a nexus with the government. What had not been seen before was the intensity of US opinion on Mr Khan, the extent of its intelligence on his activities here and the conveying of this to Washington.

What is illuminating and compelling for the Guyanese public is the stark assessment of Mr Khan and the narcotics situation here through an outsider, shorn of the ingrained conflicts of the ordinary Guyanese man/woman. It further substantiates what many Guyanese have felt about this drug lord. From that perspective there is no doubt that Mr Khan controlled the drug trafficking trade with a ruthless and violent efficiency, bought off many people and orchestrated and manipulated events here.

So the government can choose to shelter behind the semantics of not recognizing WikiLeaks as a credible source of information – that attitude itself betrays no interest in trying to get to the bottom of Mr Khan’s grip – or it can make an attempt to come clean.

There are irreducible truths that the government as custodian of the state has to acknowledge and consider as they can be injurious to the state. Failure to acknowledge this places the state at risk of being considered as approaching a narco state with all of the attendant problems such an appellation brings.

Mr Khan’s plea of guilty in a US courtroom conclusively established that he was indeed the leader of a pernicious drug trafficking organization in Guyana for many years with deep tentacles in the security forces.

If this is accepted by all as is generally the case, it begs the question of what state functionaries knew about his activities here and when.

Mr Khan’s meteoric rise in the narcotics industry came completely within the tenure of President Jagdeo. A President who holds himself out to be all knowing and in touch with everything that is going on in his country cannot easily plead to have been unaware of Mr Khan’s activities.

A President who is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and exerts himself over the security and intelligence apparatus of the country cannot easily make it seem that he is ignorant of a dangerous threat to the state from a man who operated so ostentatiously.

A President who presents himself as knowledgeable of the happenings of 2002-6 cannot easily deny that the events of that period do not present an unmistakable pattern of a drug lord at work and in command of eavesdropping, eliminating rivals and suspected criminals while continuing his nefarious trade.

Neither can the President simply shrug off the evident enrichment of Mr Khan and his expansive business interests without the security agencies and supposed anti-money laundering agency seriously questioning the basis for his wealth.

Given these failures and their compromising of the state, in other countries, the President or leader of government would have felt it necessary to tender his resignation. This is evidently a tradition that neither President Jagdeo nor his ministers are familiar with.

With general elections just months away, President Jagdeo may not venture to present a cogent defence and explanation as to why he and his government incredulously didn’t know about Mr Khan and acted decisively against him. It will however be a question that they will face informally at the elections and in the future in some capacity or the other.

Particularly if it is borne out and evidence is presented that not only was Mr Khan a drug trafficker but that he also embarked on the business of constructing a murder squad with deep connections to an official of the PPP/C government.

The early evidence of this was Mr Khan’s interception at Good Hope in 2002 with a cache of weapons and electronic monitoring equipment which lent credence to reports that he was hunting suspected criminals.

His easy escape from justice over this incident and the fact that he was able to continue his business uninterrupted either demonstrates the grossest incompetence by the government and security forces in addressing a threat posed by a man with dangerous capacities or that sections of the government were in cahoots with him. There can be no other interpretation of it and this is what President Jagdeo and his government will not be able to easily overcome.

It is impossible at this stage to determine or postulate what Mr Khan sitting in his cell in New York believes he was doing on behalf of the state and who should be beholden to him and for what. It is impossible to determine if in his legal dilemma he felt abandoned and decided to strike a deal with Washington to tell all he knew about that period and his involvement with any actors on behalf of the state. Those are the risks that were likely posed by the engaging of Mr Khan in his varied capacities by actors on behalf of the state. Guyanese who feel that the government needs to explain its blind spot for Mr Khan will wait to see if those risks mature.


Even if the PPP wins the election this will dogg them just as the rigging of the elctions by the PNC.
Mitwah
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by TK_REDUX:
Mr Roger Khan and the gov’t

Posted By Stabroek staff On September 5, 2011 @ 5:01 am In Editorial | No Comments

No matter the amount of times the government pleads ignorance and blusters, the stinging questions about convicted drug lord/phantom squad organizer, Mr Roger Khan and his connections to its senior officials will persist. It will dog the PPP in much the same way that the PNC has been harried over rigged elections.

Last week’s revelations via whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks presented the already well-known parameters that hemmed in Mr Khan and created a nexus with the government. What had not been seen before was the intensity of US opinion on Mr Khan, the extent of its intelligence on his activities here and the conveying of this to Washington.

What is illuminating and compelling for the Guyanese public is the stark assessment of Mr Khan and the narcotics situation here through an outsider, shorn of the ingrained conflicts of the ordinary Guyanese man/woman. It further substantiates what many Guyanese have felt about this drug lord. From that perspective there is no doubt that Mr Khan controlled the drug trafficking trade with a ruthless and violent efficiency, bought off many people and orchestrated and manipulated events here.

So the government can choose to shelter behind the semantics of not recognizing WikiLeaks as a credible source of information – that attitude itself betrays no interest in trying to get to the bottom of Mr Khan’s grip – or it can make an attempt to come clean.

There are irreducible truths that the government as custodian of the state has to acknowledge and consider as they can be injurious to the state. Failure to acknowledge this places the state at risk of being considered as approaching a narco state with all of the attendant problems such an appellation brings.

Mr Khan’s plea of guilty in a US courtroom conclusively established that he was indeed the leader of a pernicious drug trafficking organization in Guyana for many years with deep tentacles in the security forces.

If this is accepted by all as is generally the case, it begs the question of what state functionaries knew about his activities here and when.

Mr Khan’s meteoric rise in the narcotics industry came completely within the tenure of President Jagdeo. A President who holds himself out to be all knowing and in touch with everything that is going on in his country cannot easily plead to have been unaware of Mr Khan’s activities.

A President who is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and exerts himself over the security and intelligence apparatus of the country cannot easily make it seem that he is ignorant of a dangerous threat to the state from a man who operated so ostentatiously.

A President who presents himself as knowledgeable of the happenings of 2002-6 cannot easily deny that the events of that period do not present an unmistakable pattern of a drug lord at work and in command of eavesdropping, eliminating rivals and suspected criminals while continuing his nefarious trade.

Neither can the President simply shrug off the evident enrichment of Mr Khan and his expansive business interests without the security agencies and supposed anti-money laundering agency seriously questioning the basis for his wealth.

Given these failures and their compromising of the state, in other countries, the President or leader of government would have felt it necessary to tender his resignation. This is evidently a tradition that neither President Jagdeo nor his ministers are familiar with.

With general elections just months away, President Jagdeo may not venture to present a cogent defence and explanation as to why he and his government incredulously didn’t know about Mr Khan and acted decisively against him. It will however be a question that they will face informally at the elections and in the future in some capacity or the other.

Particularly if it is borne out and evidence is presented that not only was Mr Khan a drug trafficker but that he also embarked on the business of constructing a murder squad with deep connections to an official of the PPP/C government.

The early evidence of this was Mr Khan’s interception at Good Hope in 2002 with a cache of weapons and electronic monitoring equipment which lent credence to reports that he was hunting suspected criminals.

His easy escape from justice over this incident and the fact that he was able to continue his business uninterrupted either demonstrates the grossest incompetence by the government and security forces in addressing a threat posed by a man with dangerous capacities or that sections of the government were in cahoots with him. There can be no other interpretation of it and this is what President Jagdeo and his government will not be able to easily overcome.

It is impossible at this stage to determine or postulate what Mr Khan sitting in his cell in New York believes he was doing on behalf of the state and who should be beholden to him and for what. It is impossible to determine if in his legal dilemma he felt abandoned and decided to strike a deal with Washington to tell all he knew about that period and his involvement with any actors on behalf of the state. Those are the risks that were likely posed by the engaging of Mr Khan in his varied capacities by actors on behalf of the state. Guyanese who feel that the government needs to explain its blind spot for Mr Khan will wait to see if those risks mature.


Even if the PPP wins the election this will dogg them just as the rigging of the elctions by the PNC.

The question for the Guyanese population, do they want to have a semi-isolated nationalist nation or one more integrated with it's natural ally. The anser is clear, and the PPP will not deliver, neither will the PNC. The AFC is the only force with the moral authority to make this a reality.
FM
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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Why do these PPP milk drinkers use the US as a model upon which Guyana is based? Why don't they use say Suriname or French Guyana, or even India? Guyana is now the largest exporter of cocaine on the east coast of South America and also has the most corrupt government on the South American mainland facing the Atlantic.


You are wrong, Suriname's leader is a convicted drug lord. The economy of Suriname is propped up by the drug trade as its leaders fill their pockets while the locals suffer worse of than Guyana. hahhahhahaha
FM
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It is impossible at this stage to determine or postulate what Mr Khan sitting in his cell in New York believes he was doing on behalf of the state and who should be beholden to him and for what. It is impossible to determine if in his legal dilemma he felt abandoned and decided to strike a deal with Washington to tell all he knew about that period and his involvement with any actors on behalf of the state. Those are the risks that were likely posed by the engaging of Mr Khan in his varied capacities by actors on behalf of the state. Guyanese who feel that the government needs to explain its blind spot for Mr Khan will wait to see if those risks mature.


What a nice and diplomatic way of saying that indictments are expected as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow!
FM
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Originally posted by squingy:
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It is impossible at this stage to determine or postulate what Mr Khan sitting in his cell in New York believes he was doing on behalf of the state and who should be beholden to him and for what. It is impossible to determine if in his legal dilemma he felt abandoned and decided to strike a deal with Washington to tell all he knew about that period and his involvement with any actors on behalf of the state. Those are the risks that were likely posed by the engaging of Mr Khan in his varied capacities by actors on behalf of the state. Guyanese who feel that the government needs to explain its blind spot for Mr Khan will wait to see if those risks mature.


What a nice and diplomatic way of saying that indictments are expected as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow!


It's only a matter of time. THeir wealth has possessed them. The day of reckoning is bidding.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by baseman:

The question for the Guyanese population, do they want to have a semi-isolated nationalist nation or one more integrated with it's natural ally. The anser is clear, and the PPP will not deliver, neither will the PNC.

The AFC is the only force with the moral authority to make this a reality.


AFC == when ..??
FM

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