At one time Guyana had a successful pepper sauce business going but then they started to add some whitish substance and that killed the venture

Once the food basket of the Caribbean now we are looking at the people we used to supply to assist us.

The PPP bais would say that is PROGRESS

I hope that banna in the pic doan go to the toilet after playing with dem peppers...he'll have a Hunka Hunka Burning Wood

When you cannot even plant chili pepper....(amerindians were doing it for 20 thousand years)...it says something. How come no one wants to boot strap them as part of the new pepper industrial project?

Not a bad idea!!  I do see a lot of Jamaican hot pepper in the supermarkets for US$5.00 A pound, do there is already competition for this market.

Stormborn posted:

When you cannot even plant chili pepper....(amerindians were doing it for 20 thousand years)...it says something. How come no one wants to boot strap them as part of the new pepper industrial project?

I tried once. It is not easy to contact the right person. Part of the program was to choose the community. Grow and process right in the community with a smaller than average processing plant. Powered by several mini hydro-power stations. In return, transfer payments, medical facilities and a better educational program.

In a Guyana, selfishness even infected the native people as well. If they could work as a community, there are so many better opportunities for them. Personally, I think they have a better chance at agriculture. 

Parika black-dam grow a lot of pepper, but its only for local use. They need to find a better overseas market.

seignet posted:

Stormborn posted:

When you cannot even plant chili pepper....(amerindians were doing it for 20 thousand years)...it says something. How come no one wants to boot strap them as part of the new pepper industrial project?

I tried once. It is not easy to contact the right person. Part of the program was to choose the community. Grow and process right in the community with a smaller than average processing plant. Powered by several mini hydro-power stations. In return, transfer payments, medical facilities and a better educational program.

In a Guyana, selfishness even infected the native people as well. If they could work as a community, there are so many better opportunities for them. Personally, I think they have a better chance at agriculture. 

I was there in 2010/2011 and looked into the processing and export of products like peppers, tomatoes, etc.  It worked out cheaper to ship the raw product to T&T and have it processed there as power in Guyana was too expensive.  This effectively took the value-chain out of Guyana and the benefit accrued oversees.

Had Guyana had a reliable cheap source of power, the mid/down stream Agro industry would have taken off and established beach-heads and foot holds in overseas markets.  The then GoG was well aware of this as it was their constituency who knew this first-hand!  For this reason, Amelia was a game changer.  And all the clowns touting Solar, it was more expensive then the already existing expensive source.

Of course, the welfare [leech] class got together with their [insignificant] Other and scuttled the program.  But the welfare class have no clue.

Tola posted:

Parika black-dam grow a lot of pepper, but its only for local use. They need to find a better overseas market.

Back-dam talk is cheap.  You need to stick to your area of expertise, in which you ain't scoring too good.

Stormborn posted:

When you cannot even plant chili pepper....(amerindians were doing it for 20 thousand years)...it says something. How come no one wants to boot strap them as part of the new pepper industrial project?

Goa nah!!  Yuh bais in powah now.  What you think, stargazing goa mek it happen?  Alyuh got nuff nuff mouth, when put to the test, you scurrying like cock-roaches in sunlight!!

Guyana can try another route like Peru. Be a supplier for a large pepper sauce company like Tabasco.

Prashad posted:

Guyana can try another route like Peru. Be a supplier for a large pepper sauce company like Tabasco.

Prash, I agree with you. There is also Barron Hot Pepper Sauce in St. Lucia.

Baseman text book approach would not work.

Baseman, you have no idea of the pepper business. You text book theory would not work.

Pepper sauces and chutneys manufactured on a large scale and marketed in the diaspora can bring in significant amounts of revenues and create many jobs in the local economy.  Inexpensive energy and transportation are critical to make this industry work.

Mitwah posted:

Baseman, you have no idea of the pepper business. You text book theory would not work.

If you are very familiar with Baron's in St. Lucia then there is a possibility that you are related to the AFC Big Comrade.

Mitwah posted:

Prashad posted:

Guyana can try another route like Peru. Be a supplier for a large pepper sauce company like Tabasco.

Prash, I agree with you. There is also Barron Hot Pepper Sauce in St. Lucia.

Baseman text book approach would not work.

Baron is a terific product line. Their pepper sauce is great. They also make essences and spices. The company happens to be owned by Prakash Ramjattan's cousin. 

I see Grace hot sauce and a Jamaican hot sauce all the time in the supermarkets in the US but cannot find Baron's products though it is a better product. 

Dont know why. Maybe they have not tried to market here or don't produce enough. 

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mitwah posted:

Baseman, you have no idea of the pepper business. You text book theory would not work.

If you are very familiar with Baron's in St. Lucia then there is a possibility that you are related to the AFC Big Comrade.

I visited his operation.  Remember he got Knighthood for his pepper sauce.

Mitwah posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mitwah posted:

Baseman, you have no idea of the pepper business. You text book theory would not work.

If you are very familiar with Baron's in St. Lucia then there is a possibility that you are related to the AFC Big Comrade.

I visited his operation.  Remember he got Knighthood for his pepper sauce.

I visited his operations too as well as Ramkissoon's in Jamaica. The Ramkissoon's are more into the production of Scotch Bonnet peppers. They went to Guyana to invest in the agri. sector but did not because of the costs affiliated with production.

So he is now, Sir or Baron hot hot pepper sauce

baseman posted:

Tola posted:

Parika black-dam grow a lot of pepper, but its only for local use. They need to find a better overseas market.

Back-dam talk is cheap.  You need to stick to your area of expertise, in which you ain't scoring too good.

The Phoenix has risen from the ashes.

ball posted:

So he is now, Sir or Baron hot hot pepper sauce

Guyana Ronald Ramjattan knighted by Queen Elizabeth II

Although he left these shores more than a decade ago, Ronald Ramjattan still has a very

Ronald Ramjattan receives his award from Queen Elizabeth

prevailing presence in Guyana, throughout the Caribbean and further afield. He is the business mogul standing firmly behind the well known Baron Foods Limited.
As a Food Entrepreneur for many years he has maintained a flawless and distinguished reputation which was perhaps enough for him to be awarded with the Order of the British Empire (OBE) at Buckingham Palace. The award was bestowed upon him on October 9, last, by Queen Elizabeth II.
According to Ramjattan in an invited comment to this publication yesterday, “it was indeed a humbling experience for me as a Guyanese coming from a normal background.” With unreserved modesty, he spoke of being an entrepreneur in Saint Lucia, his adopted home, for more than 24 years, and was elated to not only be recognized, but be auspiciously honoured by the Queen.
“I am indeed fortunate,” said Ramjattan who has been exporting his over 125 food products from Saint Lucia to Guyana for the last 20 years. All of his products have also been consistently maintaining an ISO 22000 Standard and are also exported throughout the English, Dutch and French Islands of the Caribbean, North America and Europe.
His integral support to the Saint Lucian economy saw the Government there nominating him for the OBE award which was accepted by the Queen. Though grateful for the recognition, Ramjattan is of the belief that the honour “is a plus for Guyana and Guyanese living outside.”
His cousin Khemraj Ramjattan, prominent Attorney at Law and leader of the Alliance For Change, said that he is “over the moon with pride and joy” because of the achievement. In a congratulatory note, he outlined that he is “proud of this magnificent moment, this crowning achievement for a man of such humble beginnings. Sir, you have not only walked with us ordinary mortals, but now with Royalty. You are our Champion and Hero. Continue making us proud brother.”
But Ronald Ramjattan is however convinced that had he remained in Guyana he would not have been bestowed with such a high honour. This is in light of the fact that since becoming a Republic, Guyana does not currently have the capacity to nominate a candidate to receive an award from Her Majesty the Queen.
Like a number of other Caribbean territories, the Queen remains the head of Saint Lucia and can accept nominations for such awards.
But according to Ramjattan, what Guyana can seek to continuously embrace is the notion of national accolades for those who so deserve.  He turned his attention to West Indies star batsman, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, whom he believes should have long been the recipient of, at least, Guyana’s Order of Roraima, a feat that “(many) people have been clamouring for.”
In fact it was very concerning to the OBE awardee that “the Government of Guyana has not even been recognizing the lawyers of Guyana for the longest while…”
The Guyana-born Ramjattan has manufacturing plants in St Lucia and Grenada and has plans to expand further with the introduction of a plant in Trinidad. He has been constructing the latter proposed plan for the past two years.
He is a well known personality when it comes to outstanding business performances, evident by the fact that he had copped, for the fifth consecutive year, the Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year award for OCEC countries. Ramjattan coveted the Best Pepper Sauce Prize (2014) in Brussels, ahead of being awarded the OBE.
He is currently President for the Saint Lucian Manufacturers Association and Chairman of the Trade Export Council of Saint Lucia.
“That alone shows my background and my export capabilities and what I am doing must be right for the last 15-20 years to be receiving all these awards,” said an ecstatic Ramjattan who noted that “my products have been receiving awards locally, regionally and internationally.”
The married father of one was born in Den Amstel, West Coast Demerara, and grew up at Number 47 Village, Corentyne, Berbice. He worked his way up the food business chain first as a Laboratory Technician at the Guyana Sugar Corporation then as Production Manager at Ricks and Sari.
While his heart remains in Guyana, Ramjattan is currently not too keen on returning to these shores. According to him, “the situation has to change; the crime rate has to reduce…Guyana itself has to scale up fiscal incentives for manufacturers who just don’t have to go and sit down and make request to the Government.”
“I feel just like Trinidad (for instance), you apply, you get through…in Saint Lucia you apply and you go to the Trade Export Board or something like that…but Guyana you have to come and appeal and be singled out…there is not a fiscal incentive for manufacturers alone or for every sector; you have to come and make your case to get (that),” said Ramjattan. According to him, he has in the past made a few applications, but none were successful to the point of getting off the ground.
He nevertheless was keen on emphasizing that young local entrepreneurs must seek to remain focused although he is somewhat pessimistic about the business climate.
“So many of us are so successful outside of Guyana, but when you come here it is a few companies that are so successful, but the young entrepreneurs in the manufacturing sector remain at a low level,” said Ramjattan. This state of affairs he has linked to the low disposable income in Guyana and a lack of an enabling environment.
“I am reading with concern what is happening with Kaieteur News and its owner; I am reading with concern about several other business owners who are trying to do good and yet they are not being successful, because the enabling environment is not there,” said Ramjattan, whose products have however found much favour on the local market.

Baseman, your knowledge is obsolete. You are being archaic and negative.

Imagine this foolishness this man is exporting food to Guyana. guyana should be exporting food to him. It is nonsense like this that celebrating Guyana 50 years as a Republic is a waste of time and energy.

baseman posted:

Mitwah posted:

Baseman, your knowledge is obsolete. You are being archaic and negative.

Mitwah, wah me done forget, you ain't learn yet!!

2010/2011 is obsolete!!

Well, how bout all them [resurrected] geriatric cases alyuh PNC/AFC Govt "pregnant" with!!  Talk about obsolete, I mean even close to biological!!

You ever own and run your own business?

baseman posted:

Mitwah posted:

baseman posted:

Mitwah posted:

Baseman, your knowledge is obsolete. You are being archaic and negative.

Mitwah, wah me done forget, you ain't learn yet!!

2010/2011 is obsolete!!

Well, how bout all them [resurrected] geriatric cases alyuh PNC/AFC Govt "pregnant" with!!  Talk about obsolete, I mean even close to biological!!

You ever own and run your own business?

Several, and since I was youth in GT!!

I intended again back in 2010/2011 in Guyana but the alternatives favored the USA!!

Base,looks like your foresight caused you change your intent.

baseman posted:

Mitwah posted:

baseman posted:

Mitwah posted:

Baseman, your knowledge is obsolete. You are being archaic and negative.

Mitwah, wah me done forget, you ain't learn yet!!

2010/2011 is obsolete!!

Well, how bout all them [resurrected] geriatric cases alyuh PNC/AFC Govt "pregnant" with!!  Talk about obsolete, I mean even close to biological!!

You ever own and run your own business?

Several, and since I was youth in GT!!

I intended again back in 2010/2011 in Guyana but the alternatives favored the USA!!

You have no royalty nor residual income. So what stopped you from investing during the PPP/C reign?

baseman posted:

Django posted:

baseman posted:

Mitwah posted:

You ever own and run your own business?

Several, and since I was youth in GT!!

I intended again back in 2010/2011 in Guyana but the alternatives favored the USA!!

Base,looks like your foresight caused you change your intent.

Well, not sure to what you referring.  It was just too expensive to do what I wanted and making it work would have meant "high-touch", something prohibitive seeing I wanted, and needed, to be mostly State side!!

Foresight in the change of govt,anyway one foot here and one there is kinda tough when you have commitments to the kids.

I wanted to invest in the mining and forestry but me uncle them beat me to it, that bhai shan lin 

baseman posted:

Django posted:

baseman posted:

Django posted:

baseman posted:

Several, and since I was youth in GT!!

I intended again back in 2010/2011 in Guyana but the alternatives favored the USA!!

Base,looks like your foresight caused you change your intent.

Well, not sure to what you referring.  It was just too expensive to do what I wanted and making it work would have meant "high-touch", something prohibitive seeing I wanted, and needed, to be mostly State side!!

Foresight in the change of govt,anyway one foot here and one there is kinda tough when you have commitments to the kids.

Truthfully, I was not expecting them to lose, but at the back of my mind, I wondered what if they did!!  PNC still appeared despotic and I worried about a coup d'etat, which did materialize!

However, in the end t was the latter part that was more decisive!!  To make it work was going to be a drain on my time!!

You real jokey. What coup d'etat? PPP got their asses whupped. They tief too much.

ball posted:

I wanted to invest in the mining and forestry but me uncle them beat me to it, that bhai shan lin 

You mek yuh uncle out smart yuh,why you tell him your plan.