Drugb posted:

caribny posted:

Druggie I know of a BLACK Guyanese who owns a company which does global business with revenues of almost US$200 million.  .

ow buddy you got to bring in the Jamaicans to make your case now. We are talking about Guyanese Blacks here. I already acknowledged that Blacks in the Caribbean are a different category from those in Guyana. 

Tell us all the Blacks IN GUYANA that are running successful 200M US businesses. 

 

And yes that BLACK Guyanese has operations in Guyana.  You were already informed by me of other blacks Guyanese IN GUYANA who  are very successful!

But continue to ensure that GNI is seen as a black hating Indo supremacist organization.  I excuse Chief as he has more important things to do, but the rest of your fellow ethnics as usual stay silent while you peddle your racist poison.

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Nonsense, the majority of criminals are Blacks in Guyana, but the majority of Blacks Guyanese are not criminals.  

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Every time druggie comments on blacks the issue of crime is always mentioned. if no one responded to him, and the so called moderate "non racist" Indians never do, one would think that crime was the number 1 occupation.

Druggie Indians are a growing element in crime, but you don't want that to be mentioned.  Even you know that some of the criminal behavior by blacks is as a result of being paid by Indians, using guns provided by Indians.  These being the para militias that you are so proud of.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

caribny posted:

Druggie I know of a BLACK Guyanese who owns a company which does global business with revenues of almost US$200 million.  .

ow buddy you got to bring in the Jamaicans to make your case now. We are talking about Guyanese Blacks here. I already acknowledged that Blacks in the Caribbean are a different category from those in Guyana. 

Tell us all the Blacks IN GUYANA that are running successful 200M US businesses. 

 

And yes that BLACK Guyanese has operations in Guyana.  You were already informed by me of other blacks Guyanese IN GUYANA who  are very successful!

But continue to ensure that GNI is seen as a black hating Indo supremacist organization.  I excuse Chief as he has more important things to do, but the rest of your fellow ethnics as usual stay silent while you peddle your racist poison.

There are just a handful of successful black business people in Guyana. This is noted in all sectors, construction, mining, timber, rice, sugar, coconut etc. The question is why this disproportion exists hence the need to have a Black Business Chamber.  In the past you blamed the PPP for marginalizing Blacks but we have yet to see Blacks take off under the jackass Granger administration. You and that other black wannabe D2 refuse to invest in Guyana.  So how do you expect the Blacks in Guyana to climb into the business class like their peers in the Caribbean when you yourself are afraid to invest?

Danyael posted:

Doing business in Guyana and the success of it has always been entwined with nepotism; be it the sucking up of the original rich families as proxy Brits or the crass cronyism of the PPP. Nothing will be different now and that could be measured by the end of the next cycle.

You believe your stupid insults make your point but they do not. This only affirms your ignorance. You constantly berate black people when you are black as coal and will be so called by white folks here and the reality is you know it.

Also, who at my age change what is successful to do what is highly risky? I like Guyana but lacking constitutional reform an an even playing field where we can select, elect and in similarly boot  politicians out that is no sound turf to go into in one's twilight years. You sell your ginger bread house and go if you want.

This is just an excuse for your lack of confidence in the Granger administration as well as your own lack of ability in the entrepreneurial arena. One needs a lot more than dollar store clerk experience to operate a successful business in Guyana. Since you are afraid of your own shadow I don't expect you to have to courage and determination to pursue business aspiration in Guyana. 

Drugb posted:

Danyael posted:

This is just an excuse for your lack of confidence in the Granger administration as well as your own lack of ability in the entrepreneurial arena. One needs a lot more than dollar store clerk experience to operate a successful business in Guyana. Since you are afraid of your own shadow I don't expect you to have to courage and determination to pursue business aspiration in Guyana.&nbsp.

Granger and the PPP and crooked Guyanese in general. One want to go where you can trust others. Even family in Guyana are absent familial sentiment and would rob you on whim.

You can imagine what ever you want but that is what you do. While I was building a viable farm there with buildings cows and sheep you were still doing grunt work and trying to buy your gingerbread house. Courage is the least of what one concerns themselves about in Guyana. One concern themselves with contending with the incredible layer of entrenched bureaucratic corruption as well.

Drugb posted:

 

There are just a handful of successful black business people in Guyana. ?

And yet the vast majority of Indians in Guyana are hardly beacon of success.

Guyana is POOR. In fact in the Americas only Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua and one or two others are poorer.

So if this country, which has a population which has the highest % of Indians in the Americas, if Indians were so successful then why is this so?

You look like a racist idiot while you remain unable to answer this question!

Danyael posted:

Granger and the PPP and crooked Guyanese in general. One want to go where you can trust others. Even family in Guyana are absent familial sentiment and would rob you on whim.

You can imagine what ever you want but that is what you do. While I was building a viable farm there with buildings cows and sheep you were still doing grunt work and trying to buy your gingerbread house. Courage is the least of what one concerns themselves about in Guyana. One concern themselves with contending with the incredible layer of entrenched bureaucratic corruption as well.

No venture no gain, Guyana is not for the weak of heart.  If you were a smart businessman you would know that you have to adapt to challenges in any business environment. According to your mantra, you would run at the sliest of resistance. If the Chinese, Indians and Brazilians can go to Guyana and run successful business then you have no excuse. 

An absentee landlord will invariably fail in business ventures. One can't be wasting time behind a dollar store counter as a clerk and expect success 5000 miles away. 

Drugb posted:

Danyael posted:

No venture no gain, Guyana is not for the weak of heart.  If you were a smart businessman you would know that you have to adapt to challenges in any business environment. According to your mantra, you would run at the sliest of resistance. If the Chinese, Indians and Brazilians can go to Guyana and run successful business then you have no excuse. 

An absentee landlord will invariably fail in business ventures. One can't be wasting time behind a dollar store counter as a clerk and expect success 5000 miles away. 

As I noted often enough, you would want a dollar store since you slave for the man at a nine to five. I would also not avoid owning one if the opportunity avails itself because they have high margins.  You talk too much maybe you should try being a business man for a change. Also, I do not rent anything. It took over a decades getting rid of my dalit clients. Never again.

Chief posted:

CaribJ 

You could have done better if you had laid out a case as to why Black Business  need to organize.

 

The first response I gave was the fact that in Guyana we cannot even agree as to who is or who isn't "black".   Thought ought to have been a clue to you that I was skeptical. 

I said no more as I knew that as is typical on GNI this would then become a black bashing event.

And of course it did with Druggie, aided by DG peddling the usual myths of black laziness and improvidence and indiscipline!

You said NOTHING to these folks but then get angry when I retaliate reminding you Indians that to bash blacks is really dishonest, given the legions of problems that Indians in Guyana have.

But continue Chief.  You want to know why the majority of Guyanese  blacks in NYC stay away from Indians?  Just read the bigotry that is posted on GNI. An American reading this site could be forgiven for thinking that he had tumbled onto a KKK site.

Danyael posted:

As I noted often enough, you would want a dollar store since you slave for the man at a nine to five. I would also not avoid owning one if the opportunity avails itself because they have high margins.  You talk too much maybe you should try being a business man for a change. Also, I do not rent anything. It took over a decades getting rid of my dalit clients. Never again.

I didn't realize that intellectual work is now considered slavery.  You have no clue about my investments and how much I earn by leveraging my knowledge of the stock market while others like yourself pine away behind a dollar store counter. 

caribny posted:

with Druggie, aided by DG peddling the usual myths of black laziness and improvidence and indiscipline! An American reading this site could be forgiven for thinking that he had tumbled onto a KKK site.

 

This is not correct, I don't peddle myths, I merely post observations that are verifiable.  You are the one who sneak up behind Indians on your lunch hour to discover derogatory information for your rebuttals. 

Drugb posted:

 

I didn't realize that intellectual work is now considered slavery.  

Unless you own and investment bank, or a money management fund, and several are indeed owned by blacks, your Indo supremacist stigmatization of blacks looks quite foolish.

Drugb posted:

 

This is not correct, I don't peddle myths, . 

You peddle myths that make the KKK laugh at you.

Why?? Because they call you a mud person, but are proud of how they succeeded in brain washing you. Nothing that appeals to white racists more than when Indians peddle the some dogmas against blacks that they do.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

 

I didn't realize that intellectual work is now considered slavery.  

Unless you own and investment bank, or a money management fund, and several are indeed owned by blacks, your Indo supremacist stigmatization of blacks looks quite foolish.

What stigmatization did I peddle?  You keep making up nonsense and attributing it to me.  What is clear is that you are my intellectual inferior, not based on your race but your actions.  You supported Granger's ascension to office but when push came to shove, you abandoned him when he came calling for investors. 

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

 

This is not correct, I don't peddle myths, . 

You peddle myths that make the KKK laugh at you.

Why?? Because they call you a mud person, but are proud of how they succeeded in brain washing you. Nothing that appeals to white racists more than when Indians peddle the some dogmas against blacks that they do.

What are these myths that I peddle?   I state the facts and you interpret it as myth. 

CaribJ

You are making all type of excuses and then you put a label om me for calling you out on your fixation on Indians. Why was this Black Chamber form? Because itteligent Guyanese BLACK Business owners feel they need to organize. They feel that they need to get a fair share of the pie.

Your usual rant about Indians  not beig sucessful comparing to other ethnic groups in America hOlds no water. Deriding Indians for only owning store fron t roti shops is the equivalent  of an Indian condeming a black person who owned a black pudding stand in Guyana. The Indian roti shop and the African black pudding stand owners has one thing in common, entrepurenuship . 

As for here in America , yes all immigrant groups are benefiting from the struggles of African Americans. Unfortunately not enough African Americans are taking advantage of the programs as do Asians, Indiands and Carribean people. The sucess of the black owned Carribean bakeries is envied by African American business owners.

Regardless of race , success in business depends on hard work and sacrifice.

Carib J you need to take a chill pill and stop lumping  me with others.

Chief this is the Indo Guyanese KKK hate site. Continue to attack me and not Drugb.

Note that I am one of the few, maybe even the only self identified black person left on GNI.

Ask yourself why.  Why do blacks refuse to engorge in the anti black hatefest which is what the GNI is?

Yes YOU have enjoyed advantages of being considered a minority enterprise. Guyanese Indians did NOTHING to fight for this.  Only showed up (as usual) to get the benefits, while peddling the SAME nonsense about blacks that whites do.

Yes you running your mouth about black Americans instead of telling them thank you!

And BTW Chief some of the largest black owned businesses are owned by African Americans. Do yourself a favor and look at Black Enterprise lists.

Chat about what you know. On this you are IGNORANT!

Have a good night.

BTW Caribbean blacks have fight alongside American blacks to open up these opportunities for minorities.  In fact the blacks who have been most vocal in this in NYS have been Caribbean people.

I wonder what they would think of you when they see you defending drugb who is a NOTED RACIST!

And chief note the sequence of the events. I made one comment, querying about who will be a member, given that this is no definition as to who is black.

Drugb injects his racism. I confront him.

Now I am wrong.

I get the message.  This is an Indian hate site for Indians ONLY. Blacks must tolerate insults if they post here.

This is why most have left.

So don't ask me stupid questions in the future about why most Guyanese blacks stay away from Indians. A visit to this site is the answer!

. Further, what intellectual work you do?

He screams that blacks are inferior people who cannot have a bath unless and Indian does it for them. Too stupid and lazy to accomplish this on their own.

When pointed out that Guyana is one of the poorest countries in the Americas, was led by Indians for 23 of the past 25 years, he cannot respond as to how this is the case if Indians are this superior group.

He cannot also respond as to why these "wealthy and successful" Indians often find themselves as gardeners, maids, night club workers/prostitutes in other parts of the Caribbean, some with Indian populations of 1%.

He says what he says knowing that he has a whole cadre of people who will agree with him, or who will remain silent, given the ethnic composition of most of these posters.

CaribJ

I have spoken and called out the Indian racists here on this site. I commend  you for still being around.

At times you come over as their equal .

Your comments on this particular thread proves me correct. Srop your hating about Indians drawing  down on the struggles of African Americans. The Carribean blacks are immigrants just like Indians and Asians. Are you saying Carribean  Blacks are excused for drawing down because of their race?

Carib is fixated on his hate for Indians.

Let me say this, there is nothing wrong with a Black Business Chamber. Indos are a majority of business owners. We need balance and if Afro Businessmen want to form such a chamber, then all power to them.

Carib's hate and intolerance for Indos are plastered all over GNI.

He cannot expect to spit on Indos and expect them to sit down and take it like they did under Afro Dictators Burnham and Hoyte. Indos of today are not like Indos of yesterday.

Get used to it Carib.

Chief posted:

CaribJ

I have spoken and called out the Indian racists here on this site. I commend ?

 

 

Caribbean blacks fought alongside American blacks so that you can have the right to benefit from a struggle that you played no part in fighting.

Please DO NOT drag us into what ever angst and rage that you have against black Americans.  We might have our internal squabbles but we know that we are seen in this country as blacks, usually despised by you Asians as you grovel to seek favor with whites.

Just go into any room of Caribbean blacks and listen to them if the topic of Guyanese Indians is raised. Always the Guyanese Indians= racist and clannish.

And yes you endorse Drugb who engaged in his usual diatribe against blacks. NOT ONE WORD from you to him.

Don't ask me again why black Guyanese stay away from Indian Guyanese in NYC. The answer is right here in the fact that I am the ONLY black identified poster left on GNI.

Nuff, Itaname and others were very explicit about why they left.

And it is Guyanese blacks, who are a Caribbean people who get bashed here. This is why I made no substantive comment, knowing full well that Drugb would inject himself with his usual racism, and you would in fact AGREE with him.

yuji22 posted:

Carib is fixated on his hate for Indians.

Let me say this, there is nothing wrong with a Black Business Chamber. Indos are a majority of business owners. We need balance and if Afro Businessmen want to form such a chamber, then all power to them.

Carib's hate and intolerance for Indos are plastered all over GNI.

He cannot expect to spit on Indos and expect them to sit down and take it like they did under Afro Dictators Burnham and Hoyte. Indos of today are not like Indos of yesterday.

Get used to it Carib.

Here is the master racist here and here is Chief agreeing with him!

Chief please don't address me unless you want me to classify you with him.

As of now I see NO difference between you, drugb and yuji.

Yes I do remember 2 years ago when you demanded that blacks apologize to Indians, and yet didn't see any reason why Indians should similarly apologize to blacks.  Its always interesting when so called "moderates" show their true colors.

You object to me pointing out to you that Guyanese Indians have done NOTHING to help the struggle of black Americans, and yet benefit in fact from affirmative action.

What indeed have they done?  Drugb and the others screaming daily about blacks, and you SILENT until I confront them, and then I am the racist.

And in fact what racist thing did I say.  Blacks and Indians are equally poor in Guyana, and Indians suffer from a whole range of pathologies, as do blacks.

Yet I am accused of being a racist when I confront Drugb on this.

You don't want me to remind you of this because YOU ALSO harbor notions of Indian superiority.

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

Carib is fixated on his hate for Indians.

Let me say this, there is nothing wrong with a Black Business Chamber. Indos are a majority of business owners. We need balance and if Afro Businessmen want to form such a chamber, then all power to them.

Carib's hate and intolerance for Indos are plastered all over GNI.

He cannot expect to spit on Indos and expect them to sit down and take it like they did under Afro Dictators Burnham and Hoyte. Indos of today are not like Indos of yesterday.

Get used to it Carib.

Here is the master racist here and here is Chief agreeing with him!

Chief please don't address me unless you want me to classify you with him.

As of now I see NO difference between you, drugb and yuji.

Yes I do remember 2 years ago when you demanded that blacks apologize to Indians, and yet didn't see any reason why Indians should similarly apologize to blacks.  Its always interesting when so called "moderates" show their true colors.

Shut your lying Poke.

I demanded that the PNC should apologize to the Guyanese public.

Chief posted:

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

Carib is fixated on his hate for Indians.

Let me say this, there is nothing wrong with a Black Business Chamber. Indos are a majority of business owners. We need balance and if Afro Businessmen want to form such a chamber, then all power to them.

Carib's hate and intolerance for Indos are plastered all over GNI.

He cannot expect to spit on Indos and expect them to sit down and take it like they did under Afro Dictators Burnham and Hoyte. Indos of today are not like Indos of yesterday.

Get used to it Carib.

Here is the master racist here and here is Chief agreeing with him!

Chief please don't address me unless you want me to classify you with him.

As of now I see NO difference between you, drugb and yuji.

Yes I do remember 2 years ago when you demanded that blacks apologize to Indians, and yet didn't see any reason why Indians should similarly apologize to blacks.  Its always interesting when so called "moderates" show their true colors.

Shut your lying Poke.

I demanded that the PNC should apologize to the Guyanese public.

 

Carib wants to contaminate the world's gene pool. He wants to Africanize the whole world. Laawd, help this racist niggro.

CaribJ

All you are seeing is black and nonthing else. I am seeing the human race and when I see injustice I call it out.

LET me remind you that whites voted for Obama or he would have never become President. So today when folks are saying that whites are racists I do not agree with that.

Let me also remind you that there are die hard Indians who was with the PNC from the get go.   I called on the PNC to apologize for their thieving of all the elections from 1973 to 1985 , because the Guyanese people deserve an apology. Every race suffered under the PNC. 

Chief posted:

 

Shut your lying Poke.

I demanded that the PNC should apologize to the Guyanese public.

 

Given our ethnic polarization that basically means black people apologizing to Indians.

You do know that during the PPP era there was OPEN discrimination against blacks. They were told "is not Burnham time now".  This was not only in the public sector, but also in the private sector.

But these aren't issues that you want to discuss.  In fact you will call me a racist for raising it.

Any way the PNC didn't apologize, so clearly didn't need to do so!  Had they done so they would have lost as large swathes of the black population would have seen him as a sell out, given the daily abuse they suffered from Indians at the time. 

Chief posted:

CaribJ

All you are seeing is black and nonthing else. I am seeing the human race and when I see injustice I call it out.

 

 

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This is a response from a man who refuses to confront the reality of Indian racism  Drugb started a racist rant, screaming that this organization was going to fail because no Indians were involved.

NO response from you to drugb!  Did you see the human race then?  No. You saw an Indian who you were NOT going to confront because he peddled an ideology that MOST Indians have about blacks!

It would have been appropriate for you to tell drugb that he ought to stop demonizing blacks.  But I think that you agree with him, so said NOTHING!

Given that blacks in Guyana faced abuse from Indians because "is not Burnham time now" I can see how well the PNC apologizing and no demands for the PPP to also apologize would have gone down.

 In 2011 and in 2015 your average Afro Guyanese saw APNU as their only defense against Indian racism, and so would not have been happy if APNU apologized for crimes that the PPP was equally guilty of. 

I guess you didn't hear them when they said "the slow holocaust is finally over", and "now I can feel like a real Guyanese again".  They were reduced to this feeling because of how the PPP treated them AS BLACKS.

Many now feel betrayed by APNU because they feel that they were taken advantage of.