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The Commercial Registry has received three applications for the registration of the name Demerara as a Geographical Indication (GI).

The three applications are for Demerara Sugar, Demerara Molasses and Demerara Rum. Frist Vice President (VP) Carl Greenidge said that recapturing the name provides opportunities for producers to obtain market recognition.

“GI protection for those products means that a given name, Demerara, can only be used for products made or originating in Guyana and if production is moved out of Guyana they will no longer enjoy that domain feature,” the Vice President explained at the opening of the GI Conference at the Marriott’s Hotel, Kingston, today.

The two-day conference, hosted by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is being held under the theme “Enhancing market access and promoting certification for quality origin products in Guyana.”

GIs are names and other designations associated with quality products coming from specific places where the geographical origin of the products gives them specific qualities, characteristics and reputation.  Unlike trademarks, a producer cannot take the name if production is no longer done in the country.

The project is being funded by the European Union (EU) through the ACP-EU TBT Programme. The conference sought to raise awareness among key stakeholders and establish the foundations for the development of the legal protection of geographical traditional names for quality products from Guyana.

VP Greenidge pointed out that Article 145 of the EU Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA) makes provision for the protection for geographical indications however; products must first be protected in its own country.

The Vice President noted that Guyana currently is not benefiting from this provision since there are no registered GIs locally.

There is great potential for economic development, VP Greenidge noted, “Geographical Indications are now therefore developing quite fast they represent an important instrument for trade, rural development, protection of knowhow and tradition as well as products promotion and tourism,” VP Greenidge said.

Meanwhile, CARICOM’s Assistant Secretary General for Trade and Economic Integration, Joseph Cox noted that GIs are essential to enabling Caribbean countries to compete on international markets. Cox noted that there are already products within CARICOM that show the need for legal protection of these products.

Guyana’s move to acquire the legal right to the Demerara name prevents the usurpation of the value of the products. “The work here in Guyana will therefore give significant impetus to our progress across the region with the application for three Geographical Indications,” Cox pointed out.

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I have seen so many products here selling with the map of Guyana on the package and the name Demerara infront of whatever the product is.  Then when you read the fine print you see product of USA, Brazil, Canada or someother country except Guyana.

Amral
Amral posted:

I have seen so many products here selling with the map of Guyana on the package and the name Demerara infront of whatever the product is.  Then when you read the fine print you see product of USA, Brazil, Canada or someother country except Guyana.

Guyana battling lawsuits over ‘Demerara Gold’ trademark

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Guyana is in court battles in two countries following lawsuits filed by a Canadian company owned by a Guyanese-born man, but now operated by his two sons, which is in a tussle with the Government and the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) over the trademark ‘Demerara Gold’.

Following the government’s onslaught, through Minister of Agriculture Robert Persaud,  on the company over the use of the words on its sugar which is not produced in Guyana, accusing it of deceit among other things, the sons of Lionel Bedessee, owners of Bedessee Imports Inc, through his lawyers filed lawsuits in Canada and the US.

The company did not only name Persaud and GuySuCo as defendants but in the lawsuit in Canada, Guyana Observer, NCN, Kaieteur News, Guyana Times and Guyana News Today were also named as defendants.

In June, Persaud and GuySuCo lost round one of the battle as their attempts to have the lawsuit thrown out or stayed until the determination of the similar case in New York were denied by Judge G.R. Strathy.

A victory was however won in the New York court when Judge Joan Azrack granted the government an order requesting that proprietary and confidential business or governmental information, politically sensitive information and other matters that could cause “competitive, governmental, or political injury or damages if such information were disclosed…” must remain confidential. The motion filed by the government to have such information protected was supported by Bedessee.

According to the ruling by Canadian Judge Strathy, Demerara sugar, made directly from the juice of the sugar cane and noted for its coarse and sticky amber crystals, had its origins in the early 1800s in the plantations of the Demerara district of what was then British Guiana, now the Cooperative Republic of Guyana.

He said that today, sugar calling itself ‘Demerara,’ is produced in several countries, including Mauritius, Barbados, India and Malawi, as well as Guyana and this has been a source of concern for GuySuCo.

In their motion GuySuCo and Minister Persaud through their lawyers raised the issue of whether the doctrine of sovereign immunity applies to allegedly defamatory public statements made or authorized by Persaud, in which he stated, among other things, that the plaintiffs’ sugar – produced in Mauritius and sold as ‘Demerara Gold’ with a map of Guyana on the label – was being deceptively marketed as a Guyanese product. They asked that this action be stayed or dismissed against them, primarily based on the State Immunity Act, which provides, among other things, that a foreign state or its agency (which would include Minister Persaud) is immune from the civil jurisdiction of a Canadian court except in proceedings relating to either the “commercial activity” of the foreign state or to “damage to or loss of property” that occurred in Canada.

However, the judge said “in my view, the statements at issue have a stronger nexus to the commercial activities of the Guyanese state, carried on through its wholly-owned state sugar company GuySuCo, than they do to the sovereign interest of Guyana in informing and protecting the Diaspora or promoting agricultural activity in general.

“To use the language of the Supreme Court in Re Canada Labour Code, at para. 62, these statements relate “most obviously and directly” to the commercial activities of the Guyanese state. The statements promoted Guyana’s “brand” and disparaged the brand of a competitor. To permit a lawsuit by Bedessee in relation to such activity is neither an affront to the dignity of the Guyanese state nor an interference with its sovereign functions,” the judge said.

He then dismissed the motions without prejudice to the right of the defendants to move for a stay should the New York action be permitted to proceed and the parties are unable to agree on measures to prevent duplication of issues and potential inconsistent results.

“The motion is therefore dismissed, with cost. If counsel are unable to agree on the amount of costs, written submissions may be made to me…” the judge said.
No Guyanese Demerara sugar

According to the background of the case, as provided in the decision seen by this newspaper, Bedessee Imports Ltd was founded by Lionel Bedessee, who went to Canada from Guyana in 1971. Then it was difficult to find Caribbean foods in Ontario and Bedessee began to import food from that region.  In 1977, he started a retail store selling Caribbean food on Queen Street West in Toronto and from that store, the business has grown and prospered to the extent that at present it  operates from a 46,000 square foot warehouse and manufacturing facility in Scarborough. Bedessee Imports Inc. was incorporated on September 23, 1985 to carry on the same business in the United States.  It has a warehouse in Brooklyn, New York and a wholesale outlet in Florida, both of which are now managed by the founder’s sons.

The products marketed by Bedessee include raw cane sugar from Mauritius, which it sells under the trademark ‘Demerara Gold’, a mark it has been using for sugar and other products since at least 1984. The product label contains a map of Guyana. Bedessee also markets a brown sugar product described as ‘Guyanese Pride,’ which also has a map of Guyana on the label. Neither product contains Guyanese Demerara sugar.

About Guyana, the judge said “A small country, it faces significant economic challenges and the sugar industry plays an important role in the economy. Some 500,000 Guyanese expatriates, referred to as the “Diaspora,” live abroad, principally in Canada, Great Britain and the United States. The evidence is that there is a passionate and patriotic relationship between the Diaspora and Guyana and that the Diaspora is an important constituency for the Guyanese government and for Guyanese businesses exporting products abroad,” the judge wrote.

He said Guyana’s sugar industry has been one of the most important sectors of its economy since its colonial beginning in 1816.
Not a recent controversy

According to the judge the right to use the name ‘Demerara’ in relation to sugar products is not a recent controversy. It recalled that in the case Anderson v. Britcher (1913), 24 Cox’s Criminal Law Cases, 60, a matter that was taken before the English Kings Bench Division on a stated case by the metropolitan police magistrate, the respondent had been charged with unlawfully selling as ‘Demerara sugar’ a sugar that was “cane sugar crystals coloured with an organic dye foreign to genuine Demerara sugar, so that the sugar was not of the quality, substance, or nature of the article demanded by the purchaser.”

It was found that the sugar was a crystallized cane sugar grown in Mauritius and coloured with dye. The magistrate had dismissed the charge, finding that the term ‘Demerara sugar’ was a “… generic term applicable to any sugar of the substance, kind, and colour of the sugar in question wherever produced, and that therefore the said sugar was of the nature, substance, and quality of the article demanded by the appellant, the purchaser, and that accordingly the sale was not to his prejudice, and that no offence had been committed by the respondent.”

The matter was appealed but it was dismissed and the judge stated that:

“It would appear that ‘Demerara sugar’ does not mean sugar having certain qualities peculiar to Demerara sugar, but it means a sugar which is cane sugar and which has a particular colour owing to certain treatment, and it is stated that Demerara sugar as originally produced was white, and probably if a person asked for Demerara sugar and was offered real Demerara sugar in its natural state he would refuse it. This sugar which the appellant got when he asked for Demerara sugar was Demerara sugar in every single particular as understood by everybody who deals with such things, except that it was grown, not in Demerara, but in Mauritius.”

“It was stated and admitted that with regard to Demerara sugar the word ‘Demerara,’ as applied to sugar, does not mean sugar grown only in Demerara; it means sugar grown in Demerara, or in Grenada, Martinique, or St. Kitts, or Tobago, or Barbados, or Dominics [sic] or in many other islands of the West India group, and therefore the case really is hardly distinguishable from that of a Brussels carpet, which nobody supposes to be necessarily a carpet made in Brussels, or the case of a Cambridge sausage, which I suppose nobody believes to come necessarily from Cambridge.”

According to the judge “moving rapidly forward well into the 20th century”, Bedessee’s un-contradicted evidence is that it has been using the name ‘Demerara Gold’ as a trademark for sugar and other products in Canada and the United States since at least 1984.

On the other hand GuySuCo’s  evidence is that, prior to 2003, its marketing was relatively unsophisticated.

“It sold sugar for export primarily in the Caribbean region, and the sugar was sold ‘nameless’ in unlabeled 50 kg. bags with unsophisticated packaging.”

It was in April 2003, according to the judge GuySuCo launched its first branded sugar for the retail trade, which it called ‘Demerara Gold’, the same name used by Bedessee.

GuySuCo began a process of registration of the name or mark ‘Demerara Gold’ in Europe, Trinidad and Tobago, Antigua and Guyana and it had other applications in progress in the West Indies. It registered the mark in the Supplemental Register in the United States, presumably because it could not meet the requirements for registration on the Principal Register.

In October 2003 GuySuCo wrote to Rayman Bedessee, and invited him to submit an application for a distributorship of GuySuCo’s ‘Demerara Gold’ product in Canada. Bedessee replied that although he would be happy to buy bulk sugar from

GuySuCo, and stated: “[P]lease be advised that this brand [‘Demerara Gold’] is owned and used in Canada by Bedessee Imports Ltd. It is a trademark. We would be unable to use your mark, and you will be unable to sell your brand to anyone in Canada and USA.”

Shortly after the launch GuySuCo applied to the Canadian Intellectual Property Office to register the mark. This prompted an opposition by Bedessee, which later applied to register the same mark. GuySuCo in turn filed an opposition to Bedessee’s application.

GuySuCo subsequently abandoned its Canadian application for registration of “Demerara Gold” as its trade mark.


The lawsuits

It was following GuySuCo’s  apparent failure to have the Demerara Gold trademark registered in the US and Canada that a campaign was launched against Bedessee by Minister Persaud resulting in the lawsuits against the minister, GuySuCo and others including David Narine, (alleged to be a representative of GuySuCo in the United States), and various newspapers. The suits claim that they made false statements concerning Bedessee’s business and products, and have “disparaged their Canadian and United States trademark ‘Demerara Gold.’”

One of the statements singled out by the Canadian judge was part of a June 9, 2009 Ministry of Agriculture media release. The release among other things urged Guyanese in the Diaspora not to purchase any product that “is deceptive and misleading, creating an impression that they are made in Guyana.”

In New York the company is seeking injunctive and monetary relief arising out of alleged “acts of trademark infringement…; false advertising..; defendants dilution of the distinctive quality of plaintiff’s trademarks… and for cancellation of defendant’s fraudulently procured trademark registration.”

The company said its US website lists nearly 1,500 different food and food-related products that it is authorized to offer for sale and sell under various  brands and trademarks. These trademarks include Demerara Gold and Guyanese Pride, which it said are distinctive of its goods and services and as indicating the company as the source of origin of those goods and services.

It said that GuySuCo and the Government of Guyana “have been distributing, promoting and selling the infringingly marked Demerara Gold goods in the United States commerce with knowledge of Bedessee’s superior and established rights to the distinctive Demerara Gold mark and name for the purposes of trading upon Bedessee’s goodwill and reputation, creating in consumers’ minds an association with Bedessee and giving GuySuCo’s goods a salability they otherwise would not have.”

In its application, which has twelve claims, the company is accusing the defendants of false advertisement and libel.
It cited alleged trademark infringement and unfair competition; false advertising; trademark dilution; injury to business reputation; common law and commercial defamation; common law product disparagement; tortuous interference with contractual relations; tortuous interference with prospective economic advantage; deceptive acts and practices; common law unfair competition; cancellation of registration; and civil liability for false or fraudulent registration as claims for relief in the New York law suit.

The company is demanding a trial by jury on all the claims.

FM

Demerera is the catch phrase for local markets of Guyana products in Canada. The importers relabeled the products before distributing them based on Canadian import/export laws. In the USA, everything from Guyana, including pepper and hassa, etc., are from Florida. Labeling is what catch the eyes of the consumers.

FM

I believe the previous government lost this case... millions of dollars went down the toilet...

The current regime will spend another set of money to establish a commission to advise... and another set of money to comb the commission of advisor suggestions ... and another set of money to hire the lawyers... 

 

FM
Imran posted:

I believe the previous government lost this case... millions of dollars went down the toilet...

The current regime will spend another set of money to establish a commission to advise... and another set of money to comb the commission of advisor suggestions ... and another set of money to hire the lawyers... 

 

Imran,

Me thinks this is different no law suit,that is what i gathered from the following statement.

"The Commercial Registry has received three applications for the registration of the name Demerara as a Geographical Indication (GI).The three applications are for Demerara Sugar, Demerara Molasses and Demerara Rum."

 

Django
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Django posted:
Imran posted:

I believe the previous government lost this case... millions of dollars went down the toilet...

The current regime will spend another set of money to establish a commission to advise... and another set of money to comb the commission of advisor suggestions ... and another set of money to hire the lawyers... 

 

Imran,

Me thinks this is different no law suit,that is what i gathered from the following statement.

"The Commercial Registry has received three applications for the registration of the name Demerara as a Geographical Indication (GI).The three applications are for Demerara Sugar, Demerara Molasses and Demerara Rum."

 

Ok... 

Can we have our resident lawyer Kari advise... 

FM
Imran posted:

 

Ok... 

Can we have our resident lawyer Kari advise... 

That funny fella basedrum who identify posters by their religous belief,chased Kari away from this site,i told you all this place will be come boring form the "no substance crew"

Django
Django posted:
Imran posted:

 

Ok... 

Can we have our resident lawyer Kari advise... 

That funny fella basedrum who identify posters by their religous belief,chased Kari away from this site,i told you all this place will be come boring form the "no substance crew"

I believe Kari has gone on vacation.. he just kick up a storm... he will be back... 

FM
Django posted:
Imran posted:


Ok...

Can we have our resident lawyer Kari advise...

That funny fella basedrum who identify posters by their religous belief,chased Kari away from this site,i told you all this place will be come boring form the "no substance crew"


FM
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Amral posted:

I have seen so many products here selling with the map of Guyana on the package and the name Demerara infront of whatever the product is.  Then when you read the fine print you see product of USA, Brazil, Canada or someother country except Guyana.

This is a major failure on the part of the PPP!

FM

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

FM
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

Bhai Prince,that fella does identify posters as "fullah" we are Guyanese and should respect each other regardless of our ethnicity,religious or political beliefs.

Django
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

The guy is a dummy!

FM
ba$eman posted:
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

The guy is a dummy!

Me thinks you lead the pack!

Django
Django posted:
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

Bhai Prince,that fella does identify posters as "fullah" we are Guyanese and should respect each other regardless of our ethnicity,religious or political beliefs.

So you choose to follow him in the gutter.

K
Django posted:
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

Bhai Prince,that fella does identify posters as "fullah" we are Guyanese and should respect each other regardless of our ethnicity,religious or political beliefs.

I would leave that between the two of them to hammer it out. BTW, Kari is no Angel. I have noticed he addressed Baseman as Basedrum, Basement, etc. I believe you saw that too. 

FM
kp posted:
Django posted:
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

Bhai Prince,that fella does identify posters as "fullah" we are Guyanese and should respect each other regardless of our ethnicity,religious or political beliefs.

So you choose to follow him in the gutter.

kp,

been here awhile i don't stoop low,

well i have done it this time using the description of one poster to get the message across.

Django
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Prince posted:
Django posted:
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

Bhai Prince,that fella does identify posters as "fullah" we are Guyanese and should respect each other regardless of our ethnicity,religious or political beliefs.

I would leave that between the two of them to hammer it out. BTW, Kari is no Angel. I have noticed he addressed Baseman as Basedrum, Basement, etc. I believe you saw that too. 

I sure did ,it's more like retaliation when some one constantly identify a poster by their religious belief.

anyway let sleeping dogs lie.

Django
Prince posted:
Django posted:

Bhai Prince,that fella does identify posters as "fullah" we are Guyanese and should respect each other regardless of our ethnicity,religious or political beliefs.

I would leave that between the two of them to hammer it out. BTW, Kari is no Angel. I have noticed he addressed Baseman as Basedrum, Basement, etc. I believe you saw that too. 

Kari pop a fuse because Baseman reposted an article from CNN.  I believe it was important to understand the position of an incoming official!  I never took a position, just a repost and he went bananas.  Infact, I do not fully support the position of the official.

They cussed out the PPP officials mercilessly, revert to calling people names and then run from the kitchen.  The fact that I refer to the kataher posse as fullahs is less toxic than people like Chief referring to Guyanese Hindus a "Chammars", etc.

FM
Django posted:
ba$eman posted:
Prince posted:

Django, you shouldn't feed on other people's poison and call the gentleman, Basedrum. You are only sinking yourself further in the gutter. Let's address members by their correct aliases.

The guy is a dummy!

Me thinks you lead the pack!

Well, that must be a foreign concept to you!

FM

Why when people don't have anything meaningful to contribute to a post, they quickly revert to name calling and insults, I think there should be some sort of penalty for such behavior.Stop acting as idiots.

K

I believe the PPP is partially to blame for this stealing of Guyana's brands by foreign entities.  I don't know, maybe they never saw the value of the brand and only saw the value in the commodity.

But this not new, how many French and Italian wine brands are coming out of California.  I understand its not the same as these are differentiated products.

The PNC should lead an effort to begin to register and hold similar brands regardless which countries feel they have the right.

FM

Bhaigan in Mystery in Richmond Hill

I saw bhaigan selling at the Guyanese stores and they are labeled "Guyana Bhaigan".  I saw the same bhaigan selling at a Trini store and it is labeled "Trini bhaigan".  I went across the street to the Korean stores and saw the same bhaigan labeled "Mexican Bhaigan".  I got confused and pointed out to a Guyanese man and he said "buddy, all them bhaigan dis a come from Florida."  What am supposed to believe?

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Bhaigan in Mystery in Richmond Hill

I saw bhaigan selling at the Guyanese stores and they are labeled "Guyana Bhaigan".  I saw the same bhaigan selling at a Trini store and it is labeled "Trini bhaigan".  I went across the street to the Korean stores and saw the same bhaigan labeled "Mexican Bhaigan".  I got confused and pointed out to a Guyanese man and he said "buddy, all them bhaigan dis a come from Florida."  What am supposed to believe?

I think all them baigan come from China.

FM

The Canadian courts already ruled on the name issue and Bedessee won. Now it looks like the PNC crooks trying again to bang their heads against a wall. 

Guyana loses appeal in Canada to have Demerara Gold case thrown out

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The government has lost an appeal in Canada to have a lawsuit by a Canadian company over the ‘Demerara Gold’ brand name stayed or thrown out until the determination of a similar case in New York.

Guyana is attempting to claim the name Demerara Gold as its own but Canadian company Bedessee Imports Ltd filed lawsuits in Canada and New York following comments by Agriculture Minister Robert Persaud accusing the company of deceit. The sugar sold by Bedessee under the name Demerara Gold is not produced here. Local state firm, the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) also sells its sugar under the name Demerara Gold.

FM

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