The A.P.N.U and the P.N.C are the same...

Albert we have to be worried about the AFC not the PNC...............

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Originally posted by Horse Man:
Albert we have to be worried about the AFC not the PNC...............

Blacks make up 30% of the population and douglas make up 17%. That is 47% of the population who are lilely to vote PNC. So you should worry about the PNC.

I am pretty sure that no one aint really votin PNC and if you are in touch with what is going on here in Guyana you would know that.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

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Originally posted by Horse Man:
Albert we have to be worried about the AFC not the PNC...............

Blacks make up 30% of the population and douglas make up 17%. That is 47% of the population who are lilely to vote PNC. So you should worry about the PNC.

Rama why is it that you think that people who are half Indo are hostile to an Indo govt and join with the blacks?

who the hell care about the pnc you know how long ago that was the ppp 20 yrs and guyana become the best export port cocain mange by the ppp crime family you fools know where the drugs going well all the way to north america where you live with your family i hope to god none of your family member get hook

Oh rant warrior on the move. Welcome dude.

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Originally posted by cain:
Oh rant warrior on the move. Welcome dude.

thanks my brother i will be here strap

albert, under the PNC there was no VAT. Further, the PPP promised that it would be revenue-neutral. However, this year will see an increase of around 8 billion over what was earned in 2007. In 2008 and 2009, the increase was around 2 billion, and in 2010 it was almost 6 billion. For the first quarter of this year, VAT has already netted more than 1 billion over the first quarter of last year.

But just like the PNC, there is rampant corruption, in so many things, including paying contractors for the same work over over, squandermania such as on Jamzone and Feminition, not to mention cronyism and nepotism. A lot of this is being revealed in the Freddie Kissoon trial.

Just like under the PNC in 1992 too, we have super-salaries again today, notwithstanding Dr Jagan vowed to get rid of them. Gail Texeira, who was one of those who spoke out against these salaries in 1992, today as a Presidential advisor is paid G$880,000 per month (10.5 million per year) or US$175 per day, and Odinga Lumumba, another advisor is paid G$660,000 per month (8 million per year) or US$130 per day. For purely propaganda work, Dr Randy Persaud was reputed to have been paid US$10,000 per month plus benefits and allowances for the year he was here, and Dr Misir is reputed to be paid the same for the two jobs he holds, totalling some US$220,000 per year.

albert, tell us too about the pensions for the President and Leader of the Opposition under the PNC in 1992. Today, the pension package of the President and Opposition Leader is some $4.5 million a month (54 million a year), or US$750 a day, when the working person's old age pension is $7,500 a month or US$1.25 per day - and these people have to attain the age of 60, while the President and Opposition Leader get theirs upon demitting office regardless of age.

Tell us about these things, albert. Come on.

Chris Ram, last year November:

Last week’s column addressed President Jagdeo’s astonishing, unfounded and uninformed statement that VAT was no burden and therefore in no need of revision. For a newspaper column, it provided an exhaustive and hopefully convincing case of President Jagdeo and Dr Ashni Singh’s broken promise to make VAT revenue-neutral. And so I did not think it was necessary or useful to return to this topic this week.

Let us not be naive. The President could not possibly admit that VAT is a burden. If he did, then being the considerate leader he claims to be, he would have had to do something about easing the burden on “his people” by reducing taxes, something he has never done across the board.

He has found it easier to grant vast sums in concessions to friends, without regard for the laws of the land, than to honour a commitment to the nation. To change the law to pay emoluments to the Chancellor, the Chief Justice and the Auditor General tax free, making some more equal than others. And yes too, to increasing presidential benefits with no limits and no taxation, defying Benjamin Franklin who wrote more than 200 years ago, “In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.” But to the poor, the only yes is to the insensitivity of their plight.

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Guiyana undwer the PPP SWEET SWEET like Honey and Cunnie.

VAT should see adjusted tax structure
Kaieteur News Editorial May 16, 2007

Guyana introduced Value Added and Excise Taxes at the start of this year, and since then, the revenue collected has surpassed expectations. That is what the people in the Guyana Revenue Authority have been saying. At the same time, the politicians and analysts say that there has been a hike in the cost of living, something that the Commissioner General of the Guyana Revenue Authority is denying on the grounds that, while many people rushed to hike prices following the announcement of VAT, the prices have begun to stabilise.

But for all that, some items are costing more because, prior to the introduction of VAT, they attracted a 10 per cent consumption tax; now they attract 16 per cent VAT. There is a zero rated status for some goods, and it is this that has helped to stabilise the prices of the goods. However, we know that the price rise is being fuelled by the businessmen who, in the past, did not find it necessary to declare all their taxable earnings. With the introduction of VAT, they cannot hide any longer, but they are persisting with their profit margin -- which for many must be higher than the pre-VAT period because of the increased taxes that they must now pay.

But it is the unprecedented returns from VAT that one must now focus on. When the Finance Minister presented the National Budget in February he said that the VAT returns would have been in the vicinity of $24 billion. However, from indications, the returns would be much greater, and this brings us to the comment by the officials that VAT would be revenue neutral.

Revenue neutral simply means, in this instance, that the government would not seek to use VAT as an excessive source of revenue earning. This, therefore, begs the question about the future of the additional sums collected during the course of this year. But Government is not known to give away money. This is evidenced by the funds garnered from the Guyana Lottery. It is not to say that the Government has a licence to dispose of funds in a willy nilly manner, but, then again, there are areas that beg expenditure. Ready examples are the senior citizens homes; the various recreational facilities, which are rundown and so limit the production of sportsmen, the likes of which flew our flags proudly in the past and returned with honours. Some of this extra money could go toward revamping the personal income tax structure for the public sector workers.

If, indeed, as the International Monetary Fund projects, VAT will rake in sums in the vicinity of $40 billion, then it behooves the Government to use the additional money on those things that beg expenditure but which at this time the Government is constrained to undertake largely because of the IMF conditionalities. We notice that the IMF has also requested that the Government do not zero-rate further items. It is as if the IMF is keen to witness the suffering of a people who have been under its yoke for nearly two decades. The prescription of reduced public sector spending, limited public sector labour force, and privatisation have not worked except to make life harsher. Jamaica opted out of the IMF programme on the grounds that it appeared to be a recipe for riot by the already burdened population. Guyana, however, has refused to adopt that course of action largely because certain foreign inflows may no longer be forthcoming.

The good point of all this, not least of all the VAT, is that the tax net has been widened. There should be a review of the personal income tax system. This is something that the trade unions have been seeking for some time, and given the enhanced VAT collection — by some $16 billion — and the fact that VAT should be revenue neutral, and further, since there is talk that the people are poorer given VAT, then there is no reason why the conditions of the working class should not be improved by way of a greater take home pay.

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Guyana's economy today has experienced a totally transformation after it experienced almost certain calapse by the P.N.C..

Albert stop wasting your time on the PNC haven't you read what the American ambassador said? PNC in decline? that was since 2005/6 now rass it even worse.

The AFC giving we licks all over the place as bookman said licks like peas we need to counter these chaps and fast.

The electorate are made up of wise people who would ignore the cake shop party snakeoil salesgirls....

Albert who in the PPP really put you here? are you an AFC goon?

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Originally posted by Horse Man:
Albert stop wasting your time on the PNC haven't you read what the American ambassador said? PNC in decline? that was since 2005/6 now rass it even worse.

The AFC giving we licks all over the place as bookman said licks like peas we need to counter these chaps and fast.

I suppose you didn't see today's poll poll where the AFC was barely hanging on

Who cares a shyte about what Guyana experienced under the PNC more than 19 years ago??? What we care about is what Guyana is experiencing now. The world economy is in crisis, and Guyana is being left to fend for itself by the weakening market. Neither the PPP nor the PNC have a credible solution on how to avoid mass starvation of the population. All the PPP knows about is how to make money for a few. The rest of the population are just voters who can be bought with talk about the past.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Who cares a shyte about what Guyana experienced under the PNC more than 19 years ago??? What we care about is what Guyana is experiencing now. The world economy is in crisis, and Guyana is being left to fend for itself by the weakening market. Neither the PPP nor the PNC have a credible solution on how to avoid mass starvation of the population. All the PPP knows about is how to make money for a few. The rest of the population are just voters who can be bought with talk about the past.

Guyana had to do undo 28 years of mismanagement and corruption and we are still doing it.

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Originally posted by albert:

Guyana had to do undo 28 years of mismanagement and corruption and we are still doing it.

Knew you'd see the light one o'these days.

Mismanagement and corruption is now at more than 1000% than it ever was under the PNC. Whilst few in the PNC were allowed to put their hands in the kitty, under the PPP even the PNC bigwigs are being paid off by the PPP no less.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Mismanagement and corruption is now at more than 1000% than it ever was under the PNC. Whilst few in the PNC were allowed to put their hands in the kitty, under the PPP even the PNC bigwigs are being paid off by the PPP no less.

Provide the evidence..

Take a drive down to Pradoville. Look at your own wage packet each month. In the old days that sort of money would pay the wages of a whole ministry.

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Originally posted by Horse Man:
Albert stop wasting your time on the PNC haven't you read what the American ambassador said? PNC in decline? that was since 2005/6 now rass it even worse.

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The same source said the PPP is in bed with drug dealers. So you support a party owned and controlled by drug dealers?

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Horse Man:
Albert stop wasting your time on the PNC haven't you read what the American ambassador said? PNC in decline? that was since 2005/6 now rass it even worse.

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The same source said the PPP is in bed with drug dealers. So you support a party owned and controlled by drug dealers?

bla..bla..bla...tyhen all Guyanese supporting drugs dealers...cause all Guyanese will vote PPP this election......PPPPPPPPPP forever

The PPP showed them the way, but the PNC didn't adopt the Method to implement the programs..

What this got to do with the starvation in the Hinterland, Rural areas and Urban pockets in 2011 Albert?

The people want a better life now? 1982 done gone - live in the present moment.

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Originally posted by albert:
1. The 7-year Development Plan (1966-1972) buckled in 1969.
2.The ‘Feed, House and Clothe the Nation’ Development Plan remained a catchword without producing substance.
3. The third Development Plan (1978-81) increased the debt burden accompanied by little or no industrialization.
4. Hoyte claimed in 1981 that the economy ‘was disastrous’, and the New Nation (the PNC’s mouthpiece) noted that the economy was ‘tottering on the brink of collapse’.
5. Rigged elections continued to be the norm.
6.The militarization of Guyana was enhanced with about one military personnel for every 35 citizens.
7. The women’s section of the PNC proposed a one-party state for Guyana in 1971.
8. Norman Semple of the Guyana Public Service Association talked about ‘a crisis of authority’ induced by ‘a blurring of the line of authority between political and administrative decision making’, creating a problem in’…the efficiency of the administrative machinery of the state…’.
9. Decline in the East Indian student population at the University of Guyana possibly correlated with the operations of the National Service.
10. Perceptions that acquisition of significant jobs is related to holding a PNC membership card abounded.

Under the PNC ministers were afraid of what Burnham would do to them if they took bribes. Under the PPP it is a requirement to bribe the ministers.
Under the PNC brilliant minds were sought to run the government - Ramphal, Shahabudeen, etc. Under the PPP its family and frieds day everyday. Nepotism rules.
Under Burnham cocaine was a drug that dentist used to numb your mouth for tooth extraction. Under the PPP it is a way of life and a source of income.

Under the PNC they stole your vote and dead people cast ballot
Under the PPP they count your vote at the place of poll.This must really be a bad thing.

The P.P.P/C has invested heavily on on the social sector thus improving the socio-economic conditions of fellow Guyanese...
Health

2010

 Government expended $13.4 billion in 2010 towards the implementation of the National Health Sector Strategy 2008-2012.

 $1.3 billion was expended for the construction, rehabilitation and maintenance of health care facilities in 2010.

 Over $280 million was expended on training, while more than 150 new health workers entered the public health sector contributing to improved doctors and nurses’ population ratio.

2011

 $14 billion has been allocated to the health sector

 Government has budgeted to inject $345 million into training activities, which will provide for an additional 250 professional nurses being trained and 140 clinical and technical staff, while over 280 students in various health disciplines are currently in training across the various schools.

 1 billion has been budgeted for the construction and maintenance of health sector buildings and infrastructure nationwide

 Storage bond in Diamond will be completed in 2011

 $235 million has been budgeted for the completion of the GPHC inpatient facility. Additionally, facilities at Enmore Polyclinic, West Demerara Hospital, Leguan, and Oscar Joseph District Hospitals will be upgraded.

c. Housing

2010

 Over $9.6 billion was expended in the housing sector in 2010

 Allocated of 6,331 house lots as well as the distributed 4,591 land titles surpassing our targets of 5,500 house lots and 3,750 land titles

 $343.7 million was expended over the last year for the successful completion of a $2.2 billion housing project which has realised the construction and upgrading of roads, drains and structures benefiting 4,636 lots in areas such as Cummings Lodge C&Y, Sophia, Westminster, Belle West, Glasgow and Onderneeming.

 $680 million was spent on the construction of roads, drains and structures in areas such as Block 8 Mon Repos, Plantation Schoonord, Anna Catherina, Hope Estate

2011

 $3.6 billion is allocated to the housing sector to facilitate the development of housing schemes which is expected to result in the allocation of 7,500 house lots and the processing and distribution of 4,000 land titles.

 $700 million will be spent on improving the road network and water distribution systems to the benefit approximately 1,500 households.

 Under the Second Low Income Settlement Programme, 148 core houses are expected to be completed

Why is the PPP dwelling on the PNC years in office, to cover-up their own mess?

The P.P.P/C has an unblemish track record...pro-working class...and will be re-elected for the people by the people...the future of Guyana live with the peoples progressive party/civic

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Originally posted by Alexander:
Under the PNC they stole your vote and dead people cast ballot
Under the PPP they count your vote at the place of poll.This must really be a bad thing.

Alexander elections are not only about vote counting and democracy is not only about vote counting and elections.

You cannot say oh the apple is good because there is a worm in there and he only lives in 5% of the apple. If the worm is in the damn apple the apple is no good.

So bottom line for us to have a fair process we cannot in good conscience do what the PNC has done to us in the PPP. That Burnham constitution is a big problem and the PPP I feel had a need for it but that need has passed. In light of the Wiki Leaks releases one can definitely have an appreciation for the fact that there were forces in the country trying to destabilize it.

Now having said that, what is the purpose of Chronicle, NCN and GINA in its current form? Dr. Jagan and all of us in the PPP used to cuss that and say that these are the tools of a dictatorship.

We in addition are now excluding the AFC and the PNC from using state owned TV stations and Radio stations. How can this be right?

We are going back on our own values, principles and what we fought for.

When one compare the socio-economic condition under the P.N.C dictatorship to that of the P.P.P/C administration we Guyanese are by far better off and enjoys a higher standard of living with greater spending power under the peoples progressive party/civic......the electorate therefore will endorse the P.P.P/C once again with the mantle of governance....and let progress continue

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Originally posted by albert:
When one compare the socio-economic condition under the P.N.C dictatorship to that of the P.P.P/C administration we Guyanese are by far better off and enjoys a higher standard of living with greater spending power under the peoples progressive party/civic......the electorate therefore will endorse the P.P.P/C once again with the mantle of governance....and let progress continue

Socio economic and whatever ramblings you are comparing has no bearing on my comments about undermining democracy in Guyana Albert.

Be an adult for a change.

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Originally posted by albert:
When one compare the socio-economic condition under the P.N.C dictatorship to that of the P.P.P/C administration we Guyanese are by far better off and enjoys a higher standard of living with greater spending power under the peoples progressive party/civic......the electorate therefore will endorse the P.P.P/C once again with the mantle of governance....and let progress continue

The same can be said of the situation in Libya, China, and many other oppressive regimes. The people are financially better off, but politically they are still oppressed.