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T&T to clamp down on non – Nationals who seek

free medical attention

April 6, 2014 12:06 pmCategory: latest newsA+ / A-

 

Trinidad and Tobago Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan

Trinidad and Tobago Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan

 

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Trinidad and Tobago Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan says the implementation of the National Health Card will clamp down on non-nationals seeking free medical attention at public health institutions.

The Health Minister was quoted in sections of the Trinidad media, following the death of a 35-year-old Guyanese national Jeetindra Sookram, who was denied medical attention at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex on Thursday because he was not a T&T citizen.

Sookram and his wife were on two week vacation in the Twin Island Republic when the incident occurred.

Khan said as far as he knows, the ministry has no policy in place that restricts free healthcare to non-nationals. In the coming weeks, Khan said, Government will roll out the cards, which would generate a policy that would allow medical services to only nationals and some non-nationals who work in Trinidad and Tobago.

Dead: Jeetindra Sookram

Dead: Jeetindra Sookram

 

“They have been coming here (non-nationals) for a long time. It creates an increase utilisation of the healthcare system. So that is why I am putting the health card in place so we could determine who are the beneficiaries for that system. But the emergency system will be a different thing. We can’t stop that…for people to get emergencies,” the Health Minister was quoted as saying.

Khan said the card would generate its own policy to treat with national and non-nationals.

“So if you don’t have a health card you cannot get in.”

Khan said the ministry would also put prices on the cost of medical procedures as well.

“If I am going for a national health insurance system, I must be able to cost my procedures. Our people would get it for free. Non-nationals would have to pay for it.”

 

Khan also advised visitors entering Trinidad to walk with their insurance.

“Maybe we should set up a policy that before you come into the country let us see your medical insurance. Medical insurance is not expensive.”

Guyana’s Foreign Affairs Ministry has made contact with the Trinidad government following the man’s death.

This is according to subject Minister, Carolyn Rodrigues – Birkett. When contacted on the issue, the Minister told iNews (www.inewsguyana.com) that “We have asked the Trinidadian Government ‎for information on the matter and they have advised that an investigation is being conducted. The Honorary Consul will be meeting with the family as well.”

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How shameful this turn out to be, sympathies and condolences goes out to the family of Mr Jeetindra Sookram. There are muslim/hindu/Christian organisations in Trinidad and Tobago and I am sure if this man's plight was made known, those organisation would have readily comes to this mans help.

 

Now lets see the PM of Trinidad offer some Justice to this man's family. Sometime ago I had spend some four weeks in Trinidad and Tobago, the family was very nice to me and at the end of my vacation, I offered to compensate them for their kindness, and they will have none of it, makes me feel bad that I was like insulting them. Such is the genorousity of Trini.

 

I cannot fathom, that a Trini Hosp will allow a man to die, without offering some help.

FM

Foreign Affairs Ministry contacts Trinidad Gov’t

following death of Guyanese

April 6, 2014 7:56 amCategory: latest newsA+ / A-

 

By Fareeza Haniff

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Carolyn Rodrigues - Birkett.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Carolyn Rodrigues – Birkett.

 

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Guyana’s Foreign Affairs Ministry has made contact with the Trinidad government, following the death of a Guyanese tourist who was refused medical treatment in the twin Island Republic.

This is according to subject Minister, Carolyn Rodrigues – Birkett. When contacted on the issue, the Minister told iNews (www.inewsguyana.com) that “We have asked the Trinidadian Government ‎for information on the matter and they have advised that an investigation is being conducted. The Honorary Consul will be meeting with the family as well.”

Minister Rodrigues – Birkett also expressed her condolences to the family and friends of Jeetindra Sookram. She said it was a “very unfortunate incident.”

The 35-year-old Guyanese national died of a suspected heart attack an hour after he was denied treatment at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex because he was not a T&T citizen.

Dead: Jeetindra Sookram

Dead: Jeetindra Sookram

Sookram was then rushed to the Charlieville Medical Centre Ltd for treatment, but died in the back seat of a Nissan Navarra in the private clinic’s Caroni Savannah Road, Chaguanas car park on Thursday. Doctors there said his symptoms suggested he suffered a massive heart attack, as he had complained about severe chest pains.

“I think it is negligence that caused him to not have a chance. I can’t understand how tourists can come into this country and get treated like this,” Sookram’s partner, Vidya Baichu, told the Trinidad media.

Baichu and Sookram, a farmer from the Guyanese island of Wakenaam, had been on a two-week vacation in Trinidad and was staying at their friend Melissa Deosaran’s Warren Road, Cunupia home.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

As least Guyana wouldn't turn away a Trinidadian tourist who seek medical attention in our hospitals. More reasons to push for funding for the specialty hospital.


Bai yes Guyanese will never ever turn away a Trini for medical attention.

On your second part, I think that if they fix the Georgetown Hospital which takes up an area of two times of Macy's Building that would be cheaper and and far better.

 

Speciality Hospitals would be beyond the reach of the poor people of Guyana. 

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

As least Guyana wouldn't turn away a Trinidadian tourist who seek medical attention in our hospitals. More reasons to push for funding for the specialty hospital.


Bai yes Guyanese will never ever turn away a Trini for medical attention.

On your second part, I think that if they fix the Georgetown Hospital which takes up an area of two times of Macy's Building that would be cheaper and and far better.

 

Speciality Hospitals would be beyond the reach of the poor people of Guyana. 

It's not the speciality hospital building that will make the medical care better. It's getting the good doctors, equipment and drugs.
You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

As least Guyana wouldn't turn away a Trinidadian tourist who seek medical attention in our hospitals. More reasons to push for funding for the specialty hospital.

Try suggesting to a Trinidadian that they should get healthcare in Guyana.  They will rush to the airport and beg CAL to put on an emergency flight back to T&T.  Hell, when some of them see how isolated GEO looks with all the bush, and no signs of economic activity some of them want to go back on the same plane that brought them in. Most Trinidadians don't even want to be on any CAL plane that goes to JFK or Toronto via GEO as is.

 

Having said that there should be protocols at the CARICOM level to deal with this problem.  T&T and Barbados have long claimed about people coming from neighboring countries and then sticking them with the bill.  However if an emergency does develop the person should at least be stabilized before being sent back home, and hospital employees should be told about this.

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

T&T should make this clear to visitors and travel agents that it is  death sentence for visitors to fall ill in on the islands.

This appears to be over zealous hospital staff.  They are supposed to admit emergencies, and turn back others, unless they can show proof of payment.  The same as the USA.  Proper protocols needed to be submitted to hospital staff, as well as a caution that the fact that T&T is richer than its neighbors (including Venezuela) doesn't mean that humans don't also live in those countries, and so they deserve humane treatment, just as a citizen of T&T will expect if he suddenly falls ill while vacationing in Barbados.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

As least Guyana wouldn't turn away a Trinidadian tourist who seek medical attention in our hospitals. More reasons to push for funding for the specialty hospital.

If as many Trinis visited Guyana looking for healthcare as Guyanese visiting Tdad looking to remain illegally and to get healthcare its likely that they would also be turned away.

 

Please note that only when T&T politicians are seriously ill do they seek attention overseas.  When Patrick Manning had very serious cancer he went to Cuba.

 

When Jagdeo had diarrhea he went to Florida.

FM

Death of Guyanese Tourist in Trinidad…

Relatives says…What’s the purpose of

Caricom if Guyanese are denied medical

attention

April 7, 2014 | By | Filed Under News 

 
“What’s the purpose of Caricom, if Guyanese are denied medical attention?”
This was the lament yesterday from relatives of Jeetindra Sookram, the Guyanese tourist Sookram who died in Trinidad on Thursday after being refused emergency medical attention at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex.
Sookram who apparently suffered a massive heart attack later succumbed while being taken to another medical institution on Thursday.
In a brief telephone interview with Kaieteur News, Sookram’s aunt, Shanta Persaud, expressed outrage at which Sookram was treated.
“Guyana is part of Caricom….matter a fact we are one of the founding countries, so after all these years this is how we getting treat.”
Ms. Persaud said she found it hard to believe that medical personnel treated Sookram in that manner.
“Anybody comes to Guyana and get free health care…we don’t turn away anybody.”
She explained that relatives have already made arrangements to have the body brought back to Guyana for burial.
Persaud said that her nephew never showed prior signs of having a heart ailment. A post mortem examination is expected to be conducted today.
Meanwhile the Ministry of Foreign Affairs yesterday said that they were “deeply concerned” over the reported incident in which Guyanese national Jeetindra Sookram was refused emergency medical attention at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex.
According to the Ministry, the Honorary Consul General of Guyana in Trinidad and Tobago Mr. Ernie Ross has requested the Minister of Health the Honourable Fuad Khan to investigate the report.
“The minister has assured that the matter is already under investigation and has reaffirmed the principle that no one should ever be refused emergency medical attention at any hospital” the Foreign Affairs Ministry said.
It was noted that the ministry will be aggressively pursuing the matter with the authorities in Trinidad and Tobago.
The Trinidad Guardian had reported that Sookram was later rushed to the Charlieville Medical Centre Ltd for treatment, but died in the back seat of a Nissan Navarra in the private clinic’s Caroni Savannah Road, Chaguanas car park on Thursday. Doctors there said his symptoms suggested he suffered a massive heart attack, as he had complained about severe chest pains.
“I think it is negligence that caused him to not have a chance. I can’t understand how tourists can come into this country and get treated like this,” Sookram’s partner, Vidya Baichu, told the T&T Guardian yesterday. Baichu, a farmer from the Guyanese island of Wakenaam and Sookram, had been on a two-week vacation and were staying at their friend Melissa Deosaran’s Warren Road, Cunupia home.
Chairman of the North Central Regional Health Authority, Shehenaz Mohammed, has since instructed CEO Kumar Boodram to check the roster to identify which workers were on duty when the incident occurred. The incident comes weeks after baby Simeon Cottle’s death five hours after his mother Quelly Ann Cottle, underwent a C-section at the Mt. Hope Women’s Hospital.
Telling of the tragedy while waiting outside the San Fernando mortuary yesterday, Baichu said they were talking at Deosaran’s Central workplace around 7.30 am when he complained of a slight pain. Deosaran had taken them there because she had to drop something off. Baichu said she gave Sookram two painkillers, believing he may have been tired from travelling, but it did not help.
“He could not sit and he could not stand because the pain was getting to him more. It kept getting worse so we took him to the hospital (EWMSC),” Baichu said. “When we got there, I went in with him and they took him straight to the place where they took blood and did tests.  When I went to register him now, they asked for ID and I gave them his passport. They told me he is not a Trinidadian resident and so all the services we would have to pay for it.”
“We asked them how much was the cost, they said they were not able to say, but whatever service they do we would have to pay for it.”
In the meantime, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Guyana has requested that the bereaved family members make contact with Mr. Ross at the Guyana Consulate at 16 Gray Street, St Clair, Port of Spain or on telephone number 868-622-2913.

 
FM

TRINI NOW RESORT TO LIEING TO SAVE THEIR SKIN

 

 

(TRINIDAD GUARDIAN).-

 

Guyanese national Vidya Bachu decided to leave the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, Mt Hope, with her ailing husband Jeetindra Sookram although he was being attended to by nurses.

 

Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan made the statement during a press conference at the ministry at Park Street, Port-of-Spain, yesterday. He also said there was no longer a need to fill out the “pink form”, a financial-obligation statement to be signed on accessing emergency care. “Any person, whether resident or non-resident, who presents himself before any Accident and Emergency Department in any public health care institution in T&T will be treated,” Khan said. Bachu claimed Sookram was denied medical treatment because he was a foreigner.
Khan said at no time was Bachu advised that a failure to pay would result in a denial of further treatment for her husband. Khan said in 2004, the Government at that time decided that services would be free for all nationals and permanent residents of T&T. He added: “From the information received, the patient was attended to and treatment commenced in accordance with our established policy and procedures regarding the treatment of persons presenting themselves with chest pains. “Notwithstanding, in light of the misunderstanding on the part of the relative, and to ensure that there is no repeat of any misunderstanding, I have directed all RHAs cease the requirement of the filling out of the financial-obligation statement at the time of accessing emergency care.”
He said the internationally accepted practice for public hospitals was that they must act reasonably in their decision to treat patients. Asked whether people were billed after signing the “pink form”, Khan said: “In the early days some people were asked to pay but in the last couple of years there has not been anyone.” Khan has asked chairman of the North Central Regional Health Authority Dr Shehenaz Mohammed to investigate. He said when he got the report any further action that might be deemed necessary would be taken. Asked whether there was concern between the relations between Guyana and T&T Khan said: “There was a lot of concern based on the reporting that was seen in the media. “The patient was never really denied treatment so this is why I called the press conference to maintain the relationship between Guyana and Trinidad in this manner.”
...but wife says: Khan not told truth
Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan is either lying or has not been told the truth about the circumstances leading to the death Jeetindra Sookram says Vidya Bachu. Sookram, 35, died last Thursday in the car park of a private doctor’s office in Charlieville after he was reportedly refused emergency treatment at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, Mt Hope. Sookram, who was in Trinidad on a two-week vacation with Bachu, was taken to hospital suffering from chest pains. An autopsy yesterday at the EWMSC showed he died from a massive heart attack. Bachu said in an attempt to save her husband’s life, she left the hospital to seek alternative help after staff refused to provide further attention when they realised he was a Guyanese national. At a news conference yesterday, Khan denied Bachu’s account of the tragedy.
He said investigations revealed she refused to fill out a “pink form”, but she was not told failure to pay would result in the denial of further treatment. In an earlier interview with the T&T Guardian, North Central Regional Health Authority chairman Dr Shehenaz Mohammed said there was no policy that non-nationals could be turned away from emergency care because they were unable to pay. Bachu denied refusing to fill out the “pink form” obligating her to pay for Sookram’s treatment.  She said she was never given any form to sign or fill out, and Sookram was never registered as a patient. Instead, she said, when she tried to register him with his passport as a form of identification but it was given back to her when it was noted he was a non-national.
“They never asked me his name or his age. They just give me back his passport and said nothing. If you don’t register a person, how could you know his medical history or what he is allergic to? “They are making it sound as though I took him and leave. That is a lie. They turned me away. I did not leave on my own. If they had told me to hold on, we are going to look after him, I would not have left because he was in a lot of pain. He could hardly talk.” Bachu also went to the Guyanese Consulate yesterday where she met with consul Ernie Ross to make arrangements for Sookram’s body to be flown back to his home at Wakenaam. She said his body was at Guide’s Funeral Home, Couva, and if all went well he should be flown home tomorrow. Bachu said she intended to write a full report on the entire episode which she would share with the media.

FM

...but wife says: Khan not told truth
Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan is either lying or has not been told the truth about the circumstances leading to the death Jeetindra Sookram says Vidya Bachu.

 

It stands to reason, if Sookram was attended to, then why would Vidya Bachu, take him away to another Hospital?

Shows that the Trini Minister is just lying to save his miserable job.

FM
 

Lets hope that the Prime Minister gets involved in this. So that Dr Faud Khan can resort to kicking dust or go suck on some ganda eggs.

Denying Sookram Medical Attention is one thing, but then to come here lie about it is another, which the entire Caribbean can see that this scumbag of a Minister is lieing.

 

FM

We must demand justice for Jeetindra Sookram and ourselves

April 8, 2014 | By | Filed Under Letters 

DEAR EDITOR,
The recent report that a Guyanese brother, Jeetindra Sookram, succumbed as a result of being denied medical attention by a sister CARICOM country, Trinidad, must cause every Guyanese to engage in deep reflection as we determine how we, as individuals and as a nation move forward, with regard to our relationship with this twin island.
Jeetindra Sookram was a tourist who left Guyana to spend his vacation in Trinidad, he was depositing his finances in the Trinidadian economy and he was repaid by ingratitude, inhumane treatment and left to die. What a sickening, cold and, heartless attitude.
For years Guyanese have been mistreated by some of our CARICOM sister states yet those who operate at the highest level of CARICOM seem not to know or are willing to deal with this issue. We know of airport authorities treating Guyanese citizens as less than human, as they make them sit in holding cells for no apparent reason. It is reported that Sookram was denied medical attention at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex because he was not a citizen of Trinidad and Tobago.
I question whether Sookram was really turned away because he was not a native of the twin island or because he was a Guyanese. I cannot fathom the Trinidad medical professionals turning away an American citizen or a Bajan national. My thinking is that they might have invoked the principles of the Hippocratic Oath for those whose nationality was not Guyanese.
As a strong advocate of CARICOM and Caribbean integration, I am dismayed and appalled at this situation. A human being who was in desperate need of medical help was left to die, because he was turned away from a medical facility, because he “did not belong”.
Guyanese must be outraged, because it could have been any of us. I know of many Guyanese who are working their heart out in Trinidad and making valuable contributions to the development of the T&T economy, but yet we are being treated like outcasts.
Sookram’s death should cause all of us to reassess how we are treated by some of our sister CARICOM states and decipher whether we will continue to be tourists or residents in those countries. We travel by the plane loads to go to Carnival and have fun. Sookram’s case informs us of what it might mean to fall ill behind a soca truck.
It is, therefore, time to rethink our engagement with the T&T tourist sector, both at the personal and national level. The CARICOM organization has been silent in the face of obvious mistreatment of Guyanese by some member states.
I eagerly wait to see what will be the secretariat’s intervention, if any, in Sookram’s case. Guyanese must not take this tragedy sitting down, as any of us could have been in Sookram’s position. Thus, this issue should affect all of us and cause us to be equally outraged.
We must collectively stand and demand justice for Sookram and for ourselves. Let us call on the leaders of CARICOM to act, and act now. Today it is Sookram tomorrow it is someone else. Guyanese life must be valued, Guyanese must be respected.


Lurlene Nestor

FM

You guys know from experience that the Trinis have a scorn for Guyanese. If you travelled on CAL from Guyana and you have to stop over in Trinidad, you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities. They could care less if you carry an American passport. Once you are Guyanese born, they treat you like sh*t.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

 

Shows that the Trini Minister is just lying to save his miserable job.

Kamla is spitting blood these days so maybe he fears that he will be next.  There always seems to be a problem with these T&T hospitals and this is yet another embarrassment.

 

I wonder why people feel the need to make such statements.  Wouldn't it have been better to say that he was told certain things by hospital staff which contradict statements made by the deceased's wife, and that he will get to the bottom of it.  And that protocols will be put in place in all T&T hospitals to protect visitors who have an emergency.  All they need to do is stabilize the patient and then send him back home to receive any additional treatment.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities.

Too many PPP supporters trying to sneak into Trinidad.  I have never experienced this.  In Barbados I once did until I put the guy in his place, but not T&T.

 

Why do PPP supporters support that party and then flock to neighbor poor nations?  Their illegal entry stigmatizes others who are only going on vacation.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by asj:

We must demand justice for Jeetindra Sookram and ourselves

April 8, 2014 | By | Filed Under Letters 

DEAR EDITOR,
life must be valued, Guyanese must be respected.


Lurlene Nestor

 

 

Not to excuse this incident, but when people from a particular country habitually attempt to sneak into another as illegals they will be despised.  I have been told that in Trinidad people say they have "a Guyanese" as short hand for referring to their laborers, domestics and gardeners. We are the "Mexicans" of the Caribbean.

 

Guyanese need to stop thinking that other CARICOM nations have an obligation to provide every need that Guyanese cannot obtain at home.  These are also poor nations, even if less poor than Guyana.  It is indeed possible that some Guyanese go to T&T for healthcare and then don't pay their bills, and as non citizens they cannot expect free care, unless it is to STABILIZE an emergency.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities.

Too many PPP supporters trying to sneak into Trinidad.  I have never experienced this.  In Barbados I once did until I put the guy in his place, but not T&T.

Carib,

Even the Afro Guyanese were complaining about the treatment meted out to the outgoing passengers. It had nothing to do with PPP or PNC. How would the immigration officers know who is a PPP supporter or a PNC supporter? Both PPP and PNC have Indo and Afro Guyanese. Let's not put this on PPP supporters or Indians.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities.

Too many PPP supporters trying to sneak into Trinidad.  I have never experienced this.  In Barbados I once did until I put the guy in his place, but not T&T.

Carib,

Even the Afro Guyanese were complaining about the treatment meted out to the outgoing passengers. It had nothing to do with PPP or PNC. How would the immigration officers know who is a PPP supporter or a PNC supporter? Both PPP and PNC have Indo and Afro Guyanese. Let's not put this on PPP supporters or Indians.

the guyana ppp foreign policy is weak,no country have respect for guyanese 

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities.

Too many PPP supporters trying to sneak into Trinidad.  I have never experienced this.  In Barbados I once did until I put the guy in his place, but not T&T.

Carib,

Even the Afro Guyanese were complaining about the treatment meted out to the outgoing passengers. It had nothing to do with PPP or PNC. How would the immigration officers know who is a PPP supporter or a PNC supporter? Both PPP and PNC have Indo and Afro Guyanese. Let's not put this on PPP supporters or Indians.

the guyana ppp foreign policy is weak,no country have respect for guyanese 

Wrong! This has nothing to do with foreign policy. It's all about stereotyping.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
. Let's not put this on PPP supporters or Indians.

Islanders are very aware of Guyana's race politics.  So they may be wrong about 10% of the people, but as you full well know you can look at a Guyanese and be 90% sure about which party he votes for, based on race only.

 

Tell you what.  Black people flee to the islands because they are fleeing Indian racism and the PPP.  Indians vote in the PPP and flee.

 

Islanders, living in their crowded islands, don't see what any of this has to do with them.

 

The islanders blame the PPP for being racist against blacks and PPP supporters for enabling a gov't which is unable to take care of its own.

 

So yes the PPP supporters are to blame.  Check which country send the most illegals around the Eastern Caribbean and it is Guyana, followed by Jamaica.  So it ought to be n surprise to you that Guyanese and Jamaicans are harassed.  This would most likely NOT have happened it he was a Bajan, because Bajans do NOT sneak into T&T.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities.

Too many PPP supporters trying to sneak into Trinidad.  I have never experienced this.  In Barbados I once did until I put the guy in his place, but not T&T.

Carib,

Even the Afro Guyanese were complaining about the treatment meted out to the outgoing passengers. It had nothing to do with PPP or PNC. How would the immigration officers know who is a PPP supporter or a PNC supporter? Both PPP and PNC have Indo and Afro Guyanese. Let's not put this on PPP supporters or Indians.

the guyana ppp foreign policy is weak,no country have respect for guyanese 

Wrong! This has nothing to do with foreign policy. It's all about stereotyping.

anything you say professor,which university you say you teaching at

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

 you experienced the belittling treatment  meted out to you by the immigration authorities.

Too many PPP supporters trying to sneak into Trinidad.  I have never experienced this.  In Barbados I once did until I put the guy in his place, but not T&T.

Carib,

Even the Afro Guyanese were complaining about the treatment meted out to the outgoing passengers. It had nothing to do with PPP or PNC. How would the immigration officers know who is a PPP supporter or a PNC supporter? Both PPP and PNC have Indo and Afro Guyanese. Let's not put this on PPP supporters or Indians.

Tell you what.  Black people flee to the islands because they are fleeing Indian racism and the PPP.  Indians vote in the PPP and flee.

 

The islanders blame the PPP for being racist against blacks and PPP supporters for enabling a gov't which is unable to take care of its own.

 

So yes the PPP supporters are to blame.  Check which country send the most illegals around the Eastern Caribbean and it is Guyana, followed by Jamaica.  So it ought to be n surprise to you that Guyanese and Jamaicans are harassed.  This would most likely NOT have happened it he was a Bajan, because Bajans do NOT sneak into T&T.

So you think the Indians flee Guyana due to the PNC? Maybe not? Guyana was autopia under the PNC? 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

So you think the Indians flee Guyana due to the PNC? Maybe not? Guyana was autopia under the PNC? 

I fled Guyana because of Burnham so that should shut you up.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

So you think the Indians flee Guyana due to the PNC? Maybe not? Guyana was autopia under the PNC? 

I fled Guyana because of Burnham so that should shut you up.

I fled Guyana because of Forbes also. My point is, you cannot blame the PPP for all the Afro Guyanese problems. Indo Guyanese have he same problems too.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

I fled Guyana because of Forbes also. My point is, you cannot blame the PPP for all the Afro Guyanese problems. Indo Guyanese have he same problems too.

I repeat.  Afro Guyanese flee to the islands to escape widespread racism against them.  They can blame the PPP for not dealing with that issue, and also being part of the problem.    They told Jagdeo this when he went to Antigua and appealed to the nurses to return to Guyana.  A journalist who reported this in Guyana was black listed by the PPP.  When he persisted Jagdeo descended to his normal fisher women brawl.

 

And what compounds the situation is when some Indians even arrive in these black islands bringing their anti black racism against them.  Here you are begging people to live in their country and then telling your kids not to mix with those people.

 

The issue is if you all want revenge against black people for what you think Burnham did to you then don't turn around and pretend as if blacks, who also suffered under Burnham, aren't being punished again.

FM
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