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Teenager shot dead by ex-lover on Boxing Day

December 28, 2013 | By | Filed Under News 

A 17-year-old girl was shot dead around 02:00hrs on Thursday at Moraikobai Village, Mahaicony, by her ex-lover, when she asked him to leave her home and never to contact her again.

Chris, wanted for the murder of Theiana Andrews.

Chris, wanted for the murder of Theiana Andrews.

The dead girl has been identified as Theiana Andrews. She was shot once at close range to her left side chest by the suspect who is identified as Chris, and who has a wife and two children in Corentyne, Berbice.
Chris is a tractor operator and works about seven miles from Moraikobai Village. He met the teenager during one of his many visits to the village.
A post mortem examination done yesterday by Government Pathologist, Nehaul Singh revealed that the teenager died from shock and hemorrhage due to the gunshot wound she sustained. Twenty-one shot gun pellets were recovered from the body during the post mortem.
According to reports, the teenager had ended the three-week old relationship she once shared with the suspect, seven months ago. It is unclear why she ended the relationship.
“She break up with he but like he ain’t letting go. Yesterday (Thursday) everybody went sleeping and he come and calling out for me so I opened the door and I went out. He asked me to see my daughter and I tell he to leave her alone and I ask he to leave but he keep standing there and I left and went like 200 yards away from my home to buy cigarette,” the dead girl’s father, Mark Andrews, said yesterday.
He added that while he was heading home, after purchasing his cigarette, he heard a loud explosion inside his house and within seconds, he saw his daughter’s ex-lover rushing down the step with a gun in his hand.
“I grabbed his gun and he say he would shoot me and he cuff me and run away. The gun is his boss man gun and it is an unlicensed one,” the older Andrews related.

Andrews being taken out of the speedboat to go to the hospital.

Andrews being taken out of the speedboat to go to the hospital.

He added that when he rushed upstairs, she saw his daughter lying on the floor in a pool of blood on the floor.
Kaieteur News understands that when the older Andrews left his home to purchase cigarettes, the suspect rushed into the dead teen’s room and demanded that she speak to him.
“She ask him to leave and she tell him that she doesn’t want to listen and he took out his gun and shoot her.”
The dead teen’s father said that he was told these things by his daughter’s other siblings who were in the house.
She was wrapped in a sheet and taken to the Mahaicony Cottage Hospital but died on the way.
Investigations are ongoing.

 

 Theiana Andrews while being taken to the Mahaicony Cottage Hospital

Theiana Andrews while being taken to the Mahaicony Cottage Hospital

 

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White man, it is a crime of passion that happens all over the world, not a Guyanese habit. This is how you continue to be prejudiced, you take one story and paint the entire Guyanese public as bad. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

White man, it is a crime of passion that happens all over the world, not a Guyanese habit. This is how you continue to be prejudiced, you take one story and paint the entire Guyanese public as bad. 

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

White man, it is a crime of passion that happens all over the world, not a Guyanese habit. This is how you continue to be prejudiced, you take one story and paint the entire Guyanese public as bad. 

 That is an Amerind girl, and while life is cheap in guyana among the poor; this one is even of less value.

 

I wonder how much effort they will put into finding this fellow. He is on his way to hide out in places like Wageningen where lots of Guyanese live and fugitives can hide out among their own people and no one ever seem to look  for them. I will be watching this one to see how quick the act to get him. These wastrels for enforcement officers seem to be culled from your family and has as much smarts!

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 That is an Amerind girl, and while life is cheap in guyana among the poor; this one is even of less value.

 

I wonder how much effort they will put into finding this fellow. He is on his way to hide out in places like Wageningen where lots of Guyanese live and fugitives can hide out among their own people and no one ever seem to look  for them. I will be watching this one to see how quick the act to get him. These wastrels for enforcement officers seem to be culled from your family and has as much smarts!

Yellow journalism at its lowest. You already turned this issue into a political indictment of the PPP in line with the mantra of the opposition to destroy the image of the nation. The law enforcement officers are 99.9% afc/pnc operatives under the command of Brunnel, another pNC/afc operative.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 That is an Amerind girl, and while life is cheap in guyana among the poor; this one is even of less value.

 

I wonder how much effort they will put into finding this fellow. He is on his way to hide out in places like Wageningen where lots of Guyanese live and fugitives can hide out among their own people and no one ever seem to look  for them. I will be watching this one to see how quick the act to get him. These wastrels for enforcement officers seem to be culled from your family and has as much smarts!

Yellow journalism at its lowest. You already turned this issue into a political indictment of the PPP in line with the mantra of the opposition to destroy the image of the nation. The law enforcement officers are 99.9% afc/pnc operatives under the command of Brunnel, another pNC/afc operative.  

the nation do not have a image but you have a goadee you should be so proud

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 That is an Amerind girl, and while life is cheap in guyana among the poor; this one is even of less value.

 

I wonder how much effort they will put into finding this fellow. He is on his way to hide out in places like Wageningen where lots of Guyanese live and fugitives can hide out among their own people and no one ever seem to look  for them. I will be watching this one to see how quick the act to get him. These wastrels for enforcement officers seem to be culled from your family and has as much smarts!

Yellow journalism at its lowest. You already turned this issue into a political indictment of the PPP in line with the mantra of the opposition to destroy the image of the nation. The law enforcement officers are 99.9% afc/pnc operatives under the command of Brunnel, another pNC/afc operative.  

Hey NJ Fag, go suck on your goadee. Calling you a jackass would be an insult to that breed of animals.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

 That is an Amerind girl, and while life is cheap in guyana among the poor; this one is even of less value.

 

I wonder how much effort they will put into finding this fellow. He is on his way to hide out in places like Wageningen where lots of Guyanese live and fugitives can hide out among their own people and no one ever seem to look  for them. I will be watching this one to see how quick the act to get him. These wastrels for enforcement officers seem to be culled from your family and has as much smarts!

Yellow journalism at its lowest. You already turned this issue into a political indictment of the PPP in line with the mantra of the opposition to destroy the image of the nation. The law enforcement officers are 99.9% afc/pnc operatives under the command of Brunnel, another pNC/afc operative.  

I am not a Journalist; I am a citizen inflamed with wrath against a corrupt lot.  It is political in that it  happens so frequently. 31 women died like this last year. The problem begs for a response. Guyanese men across all social strata believes  that women are property and not free to have independent thought.

 

It matters little who votes for whom. The failure of the judicial system sits squarely in the lap of the administration.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I am not a Journalist; I am a citizen inflamed with wrath against a corrupt lot.  It is political in that it  happens so frequently. 31 women died like this last year. The problem begs for a response. Guyanese men across all social strata believes  that women are property and not free to have independent thought.

 

It matters little who votes for whom. The failure of the judicial system sits squarely in the lap of the administration.

 

In fact Guyana is implementing a secret pre crime unit code named "The Minority Report".  Those committing these crimes will soon be intercepted before carrying out the evil deed. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I am not a Journalist; I am a citizen inflamed with wrath against a corrupt lot.  It is political in that it  happens so frequently. 31 women died like this last year. The problem begs for a response. Guyanese men across all social strata believes  that women are property and not free to have independent thought.

 

It matters little who votes for whom. The failure of the judicial system sits squarely in the lap of the administration.

 

In fact Guyana is implementing a secret pre crime unit code named "The Minority Report".  Those committing these crimes will soon be intercepted before carrying out the evil deed. 

They cannot solve crime after the fact and now you are talking science fiction! I guess you are the fourth precog we never heard about.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

They cannot solve crime after the fact and now you are talking science fiction! I guess you are the fourth precog we never heard about.

Maybe you did learn something from that 2nd rate Howard education after all. That is the point, you expect the PPP to stop crime before it occurs. ahahahaha

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

They cannot solve crime after the fact and now you are talking science fiction! I guess you are the fourth precog we never heard about.

Maybe you did learn something from that 2nd rate Howard education after all. That is the point, you expect the PPP to stop crime before it occurs. ahahahaha

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
They cannot solve crime after the fact and now you are talking science fiction! I guess you are the fourth precog we never heard about.
Maybe you did learn something from that 2nd rate Howard education after all. That is the point, you expect the PPP to stop crime before it occurs. ahahahaha

A pathetic ignoramus speaking with the full breath and scope of that skill once again! Dont you get tired pretending to know what you do not?

Here is another example of the cultural retrogression under the PPP. It is exceeding that of the late 19th century by factors if tens. Then men competed for wives with women being one for every 20 men. Note, our historians insist the British is to be blamed since they failed to address the salient issues concerning the wife murders. On whose shoulders should our rampant criminality against women rests? Note this phenomena ended in the early 20th century only to re emerge in the PPP era

This is  a failure of the social and political culture.



Leguan woman bled to death from throat wound –
December 29, 2013 ·A post-mortem examination (PME) conducted on Sunita Lall confirmed that she bled to death as a result of a wounded throat.
http://s2.stabroeknews.com/images/2013/12/20131229sunita.jpg
Lall, 24, also known as ‘Dolly’ was murdered by her reputed husband Yugindra Jagdai, 30, also known as ‘Vicky’ on Christmas Eve. The couple had reportedly had a row over a dress Lall had bought to attend her children’s school party.

Jagdai was later found hanging from a tree at the Endeavour foreshore.
Lall’s mother, Nandanie Nandalall, had told Stabroek News that Jagdai was abusive to her daughter from the inception of the eight-year relationship they shared. She said it was so bad that a month ago she had had Jagdai locked up for battering Lall. She said she subsequently had him released after he repented and promised to change.

The couple had three children.
Relatives told Stabroek News that Lall will be laid to rest tomorrow at Endeavour, Leguan.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

A pathetic ignoramus speaking with the full breath and scope of that skill once again! Dont you get tired pretending to know what you do not?

Here is another example of the cultural retrogression under the PPP. It is exceeding that of the late 19th century by factors if tens. Then men competed for wives with women being one for every 20 men. Note, our historians insist the British is to be blamed since they failed to address the salient issues concerning the wife murders. On whose shoulders should our rampant criminality against women rests? Note this phenomena ended in the early 20th century only to re emerge in the PPP era

This is  a failure of the social and political culture.



Leguan woman bled to death from throat wound –
December 29, 2013 ·A post-mortem examination (PME) conducted on Sunita Lall confirmed that she bled to death as a result of a wounded throat.
http://s2.stabroeknews.com/images/2013/12/20131229sunita.jpg
Lall, 24, also known as ‘Dolly’ was murdered by her reputed husband Yugindra Jagdai, 30, also known as ‘Vicky’ on Christmas Eve. The couple had reportedly had a row over a dress Lall had bought to attend her children’s school party.

Jagdai was later found hanging from a tree at the Endeavour foreshore.
Lall’s mother, Nandanie Nandalall, had told Stabroek News that Jagdai was abusive to her daughter from the inception of the eight-year relationship they shared. She said it was so bad that a month ago she had had Jagdai locked up for battering Lall. She said she subsequently had him released after he repented and promised to change.

The couple had three children.
Relatives told Stabroek News that Lall will be laid to rest tomorrow at Endeavour, Leguan.

 Dummy you really trying to hang a crime of passion on the PPP? And you expect people to take your ragtag party seriously?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

A pathetic ignoramus speaking with the full breath and scope of that skill once again! Dont you get tired pretending to know what you do not?

Here is another example of the cultural retrogression under the PPP. It is exceeding that of the late 19th century by factors if tens. Then men competed for wives with women being one for every 20 men. Note, our historians insist the British is to be blamed since they failed to address the salient issues concerning the wife murders. On whose shoulders should our rampant criminality against women rests? Note this phenomena ended in the early 20th century only to re emerge in the PPP era

This is  a failure of the social and political culture.



Leguan woman bled to death from throat wound –
December 29, 2013 ·A post-mortem examination (PME) conducted on Sunita Lall confirmed that she bled to death as a result of a wounded throat.
http://s2.stabroeknews.com/images/2013/12/20131229sunita.jpg
Lall, 24, also known as ‘Dolly’ was murdered by her reputed husband Yugindra Jagdai, 30, also known as ‘Vicky’ on Christmas Eve. The couple had reportedly had a row over a dress Lall had bought to attend her children’s school party.

Jagdai was later found hanging from a tree at the Endeavour foreshore.
Lall’s mother, Nandanie Nandalall, had told Stabroek News that Jagdai was abusive to her daughter from the inception of the eight-year relationship they shared. She said it was so bad that a month ago she had had Jagdai locked up for battering Lall. She said she subsequently had him released after he repented and promised to change.

The couple had three children.
Relatives told Stabroek News that Lall will be laid to rest tomorrow at Endeavour, Leguan.

 Dummy you really trying to hang a crime of passion on the PPP? And you expect people to take your ragtag party seriously?

the ppp is creating a lawless society where there is no more moral values these kind of crime is almost a daily  occurrence  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

A pathetic ignoramus speaking with the full breath and scope of that skill once again! Dont you get tired pretending to know what you do not?

Here is another example of the cultural retrogression under the PPP. It is exceeding that of the late 19th century by factors if tens. Then men competed for wives with women being one for every 20 men. Note, our historians insist the British is to be blamed since they failed to address the salient issues concerning the wife murders. On whose shoulders should our rampant criminality against women rests? Note this phenomena ended in the early 20th century only to re emerge in the PPP era

This is  a failure of the social and political culture.



Leguan woman bled to death from throat wound –
December 29, 2013 ·A post-mortem examination (PME) conducted on Sunita Lall confirmed that she bled to death as a result of a wounded throat.
http://s2.stabroeknews.com/images/2013/12/20131229sunita.jpg
Lall, 24, also known as ‘Dolly’ was murdered by her reputed husband Yugindra Jagdai, 30, also known as ‘Vicky’ on Christmas Eve. The couple had reportedly had a row over a dress Lall had bought to attend her children’s school party.

Jagdai was later found hanging from a tree at the Endeavour foreshore.
Lall’s mother, Nandanie Nandalall, had told Stabroek News that Jagdai was abusive to her daughter from the inception of the eight-year relationship they shared. She said it was so bad that a month ago she had had Jagdai locked up for battering Lall. She said she subsequently had him released after he repented and promised to change.

The couple had three children.
Relatives told Stabroek News that Lall will be laid to rest tomorrow at Endeavour, Leguan.

 Dummy you really trying to hang a crime of passion on the PPP? And you expect people to take your ragtag party seriously?

Crimes of any kind is ameliorated by addressing them in frontal ways. When has the PPP admin supporter a PSA warning of the ills of domestic violence? The police still do not turn up despite the government spending the nations money in law enforcement.  I do not have a party. FOr me it is anything but the current blight

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Crimes of any kind is ameliorated by addressing them in frontal ways. When has the PPP admin supporter a PSA warning of the ills of domestic violence? The police still do not turn up despite the government spending the nations money in law enforcement.  I do not have a party. FOr me it is anything but the current blight

You really believe this shyte you write. Did you blame the democrats and Obama for the Sandy Hook massacre or Boston bombings?  You should chose your battles more carefully and stick to the regular claims of corruption. 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Crimes of any kind is ameliorated by addressing them in frontal ways. When has the PPP admin supporter a PSA warning of the ills of domestic violence? The police still do not turn up despite the government spending the nations money in law enforcement.  I do not have a party. FOr me it is anything but the current blight

You really believe this shyte you write. Did you blame the democrats and Obama for the Sandy Hook massacre or Boston bombings?  You should chose your battles more carefully and stick to the regular claims of corruption. 

or he can try cutting your goadee

 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Crimes of any kind is ameliorated by addressing them in frontal ways. When has the PPP admin supporter a PSA warning of the ills of domestic violence? The police still do not turn up despite the government spending the nations money in law enforcement.  I do not have a party. FOr me it is anything but the current blight

You really believe this shyte you write. Did you blame the democrats and Obama for the Sandy Hook massacre or Boston bombings?  You should chose your battles more carefully and stick to the regular claims of corruption. 

It is called crime fighting: you do not sit on your hands and blame the world. You look at the reasons for the problem.

 

I do not blame Obama for that but the republicans and their sham defense of the second amendment which  is unreasonable and denies the ability for active background check that can detect the mentally trouble and prevent them from owning a gun. However, no parallel exist here. This is a failure to enfoce basic domestic violence laws. We have active surveillance systems that help detect many of these violent acts as with the Boston Bombing and the few, that gets by are not a consequence of not trying.

 

You are a blooming idiot if you feel that fighing domestic violence with strict laws and enforcement of such laws are could not help  here. Ask why those Guyanese guys do not even slap their wives here in the US for fear of the cops. I actually see the complaint that women are using the laws here as a vindictive tool. I don't not see the same level of violence abroad as I see at home. We are the same people only in different legal environment.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

It is called crime fighting: you do not sit on your hands and blame the world. You look at the reasons for the problem.

 

I do not blame Obama for that but the republicans and their sham defense of the second amendment which  is unreasonable and denies the ability for active background check that can detect the mentally trouble and prevent them from owning a gun. However, no parallel exist here. This is a failure to enfoce basic domestic violence laws. We have active surveillance systems that help detect many of these violent acts as with the Boston Bombing and the few, that gets by are not a consequence of not trying.

 

You are a blooming idiot if you feel that fighing domestic violence with strict laws and enforcement of such laws are could not help  here. Ask why those Guyanese guys do not even slap their wives here in the US for fear of the cops. I actually see the complaint that women are using the laws here as a vindictive tool. I don't not see the same level of violence abroad as I see at home. We are the same people only in different legal environment.

 

 

 

Dummy, Guyana already has laws regarding murder. You really believe the perpetrator of the above incident took time to consider laws in this crime of passion? The man was mentally unstable, no amount of law would change his mind. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Crimes of any kind is ameliorated by addressing them in frontal ways. When has the PPP admin supporter a PSA warning of the ills of domestic violence? The police still do not turn up despite the government spending the nations money in law enforcement.  I do not have a party. FOr me it is anything but the current blight

You really believe this shyte you write. Did you blame the democrats and Obama for the Sandy Hook massacre or Boston bombings?  You should chose your battles more carefully and stick to the regular claims of corruption. 

Goadee Walla got Fcked up. He running off at a tangent. Someone should put a bomb to your goadee.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

It is called crime fighting: you do not sit on your hands and blame the world. You look at the reasons for the problem.

 

I do not blame Obama for that but the republicans and their sham defense of the second amendment which  is unreasonable and denies the ability for active background check that can detect the mentally trouble and prevent them from owning a gun. However, no parallel exist here. This is a failure to enfoce basic domestic violence laws. We have active surveillance systems that help detect many of these violent acts as with the Boston Bombing and the few, that gets by are not a consequence of not trying.

 

You are a blooming idiot if you feel that fighing domestic violence with strict laws and enforcement of such laws are could not help  here. Ask why those Guyanese guys do not even slap their wives here in the US for fear of the cops. I actually see the complaint that women are using the laws here as a vindictive tool. I don't not see the same level of violence abroad as I see at home. We are the same people only in different legal environment.

 

 

 

Dummy, Guyana already has laws regarding murder. You really believe the perpetrator of the above incident took time to consider laws in this crime of passion? The man was mentally unstable, no amount of law would change his mind. 

Domestic violence is a special problem you mental ant. It is often overlayed by others. The murder of the wife is the end product of t he pathology gone wrong.  If you can conclude mental imbalance ( and this is a compendium of issues) do you thing this is not an addressable problem from a mental health point of view or a social interventionist point of view?

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

It is called crime fighting: you do not sit on your hands and blame the world. You look at the reasons for the problem.

 

I do not blame Obama for that but the republicans and their sham defense of the second amendment which  is unreasonable and denies the ability for active background check that can detect the mentally trouble and prevent them from owning a gun. However, no parallel exist here. This is a failure to enfoce basic domestic violence laws. We have active surveillance systems that help detect many of these violent acts as with the Boston Bombing and the few, that gets by are not a consequence of not trying.

 

You are a blooming idiot if you feel that fighing domestic violence with strict laws and enforcement of such laws are could not help  here. Ask why those Guyanese guys do not even slap their wives here in the US for fear of the cops. I actually see the complaint that women are using the laws here as a vindictive tool. I don't not see the same level of violence abroad as I see at home. We are the same people only in different legal environment.

 

 

 

Dummy, Guyana already has laws regarding murder. You really believe the perpetrator of the above incident took time to consider laws in this crime of passion? The man was mentally unstable, no amount of law would change his mind. 

Domestic violence is a special problem you mental ant. It is often overlayed by others. The murder of the wife is the end product of t he pathology gone wrong.  If you can conclude mental imbalance ( and this is a compendium of issues) do you thing this is not an addressable problem from a mental health point of view or a social interventionist point of view?

 

 

Even your black peers at Howard are disappointed in the bad name you are giving this second rate university. You now blame govt for mental problems in society.  No amount of planning by govt would have prevented the murder of the two victims. As I mentioned, the pre crime capability in the Minority report will soon be available to the GPF. But you will soon scream that it is extra judicial arrests. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

It is called crime fighting: you do not sit on your hands and blame the world. You look at the reasons for the problem.

 

I do not blame Obama for that but the republicans and their sham defense of the second amendment which  is unreasonable and denies the ability for active background check that can detect the mentally trouble and prevent them from owning a gun. However, no parallel exist here. This is a failure to enfoce basic domestic violence laws. We have active surveillance systems that help detect many of these violent acts as with the Boston Bombing and the few, that gets by are not a consequence of not trying.

 

You are a blooming idiot if you feel that fighing domestic violence with strict laws and enforcement of such laws are could not help  here. Ask why those Guyanese guys do not even slap their wives here in the US for fear of the cops. I actually see the complaint that women are using the laws here as a vindictive tool. I don't not see the same level of violence abroad as I see at home. We are the same people only in different legal environment.

 

 

 

Dummy, Guyana already has laws regarding murder. You really believe the perpetrator of the above incident took time to consider laws in this crime of passion? The man was mentally unstable, no amount of law would change his mind. 

Domestic violence is a special problem you mental ant. It is often overlayed by others. The murder of the wife is the end product of t he pathology gone wrong.  If you can conclude mental imbalance ( and this is a compendium of issues) do you thing this is not an addressable problem from a mental health point of view or a social interventionist point of view?

 

 

Even your black peers at Howard are disappointed in the bad name you are giving this second rate university. You now blame govt for mental problems in society.  No amount of planning by govt would have prevented the murder of the two victims. As I mentioned, the pre crime capability in the Minority report will soon be available to the GPF. But you will soon scream that it is extra judicial arrests. 

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

It is called crime fighting: you do not sit on your hands and blame the world. You look at the reasons for the problem.

 

I do not blame Obama for that but the republicans and their sham defense of the second amendment which  is unreasonable and denies the ability for active background check that can detect the mentally trouble and prevent them from owning a gun. However, no parallel exist here. This is a failure to enfoce basic domestic violence laws. We have active surveillance systems that help detect many of these violent acts as with the Boston Bombing and the few, that gets by are not a consequence of not trying.

 

You are a blooming idiot if you feel that fighing domestic violence with strict laws and enforcement of such laws are could not help  here. Ask why those Guyanese guys do not even slap their wives here in the US for fear of the cops. I actually see the complaint that women are using the laws here as a vindictive tool. I don't not see the same level of violence abroad as I see at home. We are the same people only in different legal environment.

 

 

 

Dummy, Guyana already has laws regarding murder. You really believe the perpetrator of the above incident took time to consider laws in this crime of passion? The man was mentally unstable, no amount of law would change his mind. 

Domestic violence is a special problem you mental ant. It is often overlayed by others. The murder of the wife is the end product of t he pathology gone wrong.  If you can conclude mental imbalance ( and this is a compendium of issues) do you thing this is not an addressable problem from a mental health point of view or a social interventionist point of view?

 

 

Even your black peers at Howard are disappointed in the bad name you are giving this second rate university. You now blame govt for mental problems in society.  No amount of planning by govt would have prevented the murder of the two victims. As I mentioned, the pre crime capability in the Minority report will soon be available to the GPF. But you will soon scream that it is extra judicial arrests. 

My peers at Howard are not black but arabs, persians, indians, whites etc. I guess you select out black because you think that means more in your racist head.

 

I blame the broblem on the lazy ministers responsible for these areas. If the epidemic of spousal murders do not get them into thinking the have a problem then why the hell are they there? If on the criminal side the neglect exist then enforce domestic violence seriously with no leniency for abusers. If it is also inclusive of a mental health problem  of addiction etc then this is to be addressed also. The fact remains what whatever the reasons for the prevailing epidemic of murders of this sort it is scandalous.

 

Whatever your objections is as usual that of an idiot.  And only an ass like you would see a comparison here and the futuristic scifi movie. One is improbable fiction as the movie itself concludes to be the case and the other is sensible strategies of any rational administrative authority to address a problem at the source.  If we did not believe that we can control crime then what is the purpose of the judicial system?

 

Did I say that you are an ass? I am being kind.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

My peers at Howard are not black but arabs, persians, indians, whites etc. I guess you select out black because you think that means more in your racist head.

 

I blame the broblem on the lazy ministers responsible for these areas. If the epidemic of spousal murders do not get them into thinking the have a problem then why the hell are they there? If on the criminal side the neglect exist then enforce domestic violence seriously with no leniency for abusers. If it is also inclusive of a mental health problem  of addiction etc then this is to be addressed also. The fact remains what whatever the reasons for the prevailing epidemic of murders of this sort it is scandalous.

 

Whatever your objections is as usual that of an idiot.  And only an ass like you would see a comparison here and the futuristic scifi movie. One is improbable fiction as the movie itself concludes to be the case and the other is sensible strategies of any rational administrative authority to address a problem at the source.  If we did not believe that we can control crime then what is the purpose of the judicial system?

 

Did I say that you are an ass? I am being kind.

 

Dummy from Howard, who do you blame for this in the US? Has it improved under Obama or is the PPP also responsible for abuse in the US?

 

National

  • Every 9 seconds a woman is battered in the United States.
    AMA, 1998, Georgia Department of Human Resources, 1999
  • Nearly 5.3 million intimate partner victimization occur each year among U.S. women ages 18 and older. This violence results in nearly 2 million injuries and nearly 1,300 deaths.
    Center for Disease Control, 2003
  • Conservatively, each year 1 million women suffer nonfatal violence by an intimate.
    Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report: Violence Against Women: Estimates from the Redesigned Survey (NCJ-154348), August 1995, p.3.
  • Other estimates include 4 million women in the U.S. are battered each year.
    American Psychl. Ass'n Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p.10.
  • Nearly 1 in 3 women experience domestic violence in their lifetime.
    American Psychl. Ass'n Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p.10.
  • Ninety to ninety-five percent of domestic violence victims are women.
    A Report of the Violence against Women Research Strategic Planning Workshop sponsored by the National Institute of Justice in cooperation with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.
  • As many as 324,000 women each year experience intimate partner violence during their pregnancy.
    Gazmarairian et al, 2000
  • Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former intimate, to 3.9 million women who are physically abused by their husbands or live-in partners per year.
    U.S. Department of Justice, Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, March 1998: The Commonwealth Fund, First Comprehensive National Survey of American Women, July, 1993.
  • The U.S. Department of Justice reported that 37 percent of all women who sought care in hospital emergency rooms for violence-related injuries were injured by a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend.
    Department of Justice, August 1997. Violence related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments. Michael R. Rand. Bureau of Justice Statistics.
  • About four in ten female victims of intimate partner violence lived in households with children under age 12.
    Reprinted and adapted from 'News Flash' (http://www.fvpf.org/newsflash), an online newsletter of the Family Violence Prevention Fund.
  • Forty percent of teenage girls age 14 to 17 report knowing someone their age who has been hit or beaten by a boyfriend.
    Children Now / Kaiser Permanente Poll, December 1995.
  • Studies of the Surgeon General's office reveal that domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women between the ages of 15 and 44, more common than automobile accidents, muggings, and cancer deaths combined. Other research has found that half of all women will experience some form of violence from their partners during marriage, and that more than one-third are battered repeatedly every year.
    Journal of American Medical Association, 1990
  • ...having a verbally abusive partner is a variable "most likely" to predict that a woman would be victimized by an intimate partner. These findings support the theory that violence perpetrated against women by intimates is often part of a systematic pattern of dominance and control.
    Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence. Reprinted and adapted from 'News Flash'(http://www.fvpf.org/newsflash), an online newsletter of the Family Violence Prevention Fund.
  • Young women between the ages of 16-24 in dating relationships experience the highest rate of domestic violence and sexual assault.
    Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report: Intimate Partner Violence. May, 2000
  • An average of 28 percent of high school and college students experience dating violence at some point.
    Brustin, S., Legal Response to Teen Dating Violence, Family Law Quarterly, vol. 29, no.2,331 (Summer 1995) (citing Levy, In Love & In Danger: a teen's guide to breaking free of an abusive relationship, 1993)
  • Twenty-six percent of pregnant teens reported being physically abused by their boyfriends - about half of them said the battering began or intensified after he learned of her pregnancy.
    Brustin, S., Legal Response to Teen Dating Violence, Family Law Quarterly, vol. 29, no.2, 333-334 (Summer 1995) (citing Worcester, A More Hidden Crime: Adolescent Battered Women, The Network ../news, July / Aug., National women's Health Network 1993)
  • In the United States, researchers estimate the 40 percent to 70 percent of female murder victims were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, frequently in the context of an ongoing abusive relationship.
    Bailey et al., 1997
  • Fifty-seven percent of homeless families identified domestic violence as a primary cause of homelessness.
FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

My peers at Howard are not black but arabs, persians, indians, whites etc. I guess you select out black because you think that means more in your racist head.

 

I blame the broblem on the lazy ministers responsible for these areas. If the epidemic of spousal murders do not get them into thinking the have a problem then why the hell are they there? If on the criminal side the neglect exist then enforce domestic violence seriously with no leniency for abusers. If it is also inclusive of a mental health problem  of addiction etc then this is to be addressed also. The fact remains what whatever the reasons for the prevailing epidemic of murders of this sort it is scandalous.

 

Whatever your objections is as usual that of an idiot.  And only an ass like you would see a comparison here and the futuristic scifi movie. One is improbable fiction as the movie itself concludes to be the case and the other is sensible strategies of any rational administrative authority to address a problem at the source.  If we did not believe that we can control crime then what is the purpose of the judicial system?

 

Did I say that you are an ass? I am being kind.

 

Dummy from Howard, who do you blame for this in the US? Has it improved under Obama or is the PPP also responsible for abuse in the US?

 

National

  • Every 9 seconds a woman is battered in the United States.
    AMA, 1998, Georgia Department of Human Resources, 1999
  • Nearly 5.3 million intimate partner victimization occur each year among U.S. women ages 18 and older. This violence results in nearly 2 million injuries and nearly 1,300 deaths.
    Center for Disease Control, 2003
  • Conservatively, each year 1 million women suffer nonfatal violence by an intimate.
    Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report: Violence Against Women: Estimates from the Redesigned Survey (NCJ-154348), August 1995, p.3.
  • Other estimates include 4 million women in the U.S. are battered each year.
    American Psychl. Ass'n Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p.10.
  • Nearly 1 in 3 women experience domestic violence in their lifetime.
    American Psychl. Ass'n Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p.10.
  • Ninety to ninety-five percent of domestic violence victims are women.
    A Report of the Violence against Women Research Strategic Planning Workshop sponsored by the National Institute of Justice in cooperation with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.
  • As many as 324,000 women each year experience intimate partner violence during their pregnancy.
    Gazmarairian et al, 2000
  • Estimates range from 960,000 incidents of violence against a current or former intimate, to 3.9 million women who are physically abused by their husbands or live-in partners per year.
    U.S. Department of Justice, Violence by Intimates: Analysis of Data on Crimes by Current or Former Spouses, March 1998: The Commonwealth Fund, First Comprehensive National Survey of American Women, July, 1993.
  • The U.S. Department of Justice reported that 37 percent of all women who sought care in hospital emergency rooms for violence-related injuries were injured by a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend.
    Department of Justice, August 1997. Violence related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments. Michael R. Rand. Bureau of Justice Statistics.
  • About four in ten female victims of intimate partner violence lived in households with children under age 12.
    Reprinted and adapted from 'News Flash' (http://www.fvpf.org/newsflash), an online newsletter of the Family Violence Prevention Fund.
  • Forty percent of teenage girls age 14 to 17 report knowing someone their age who has been hit or beaten by a boyfriend.
    Children Now / Kaiser Permanente Poll, December 1995.
  • Studies of the Surgeon General's office reveal that domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women between the ages of 15 and 44, more common than automobile accidents, muggings, and cancer deaths combined. Other research has found that half of all women will experience some form of violence from their partners during marriage, and that more than one-third are battered repeatedly every year.
    Journal of American Medical Association, 1990
  • ...having a verbally abusive partner is a variable "most likely" to predict that a woman would be victimized by an intimate partner. These findings support the theory that violence perpetrated against women by intimates is often part of a systematic pattern of dominance and control.
    Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence. Reprinted and adapted from 'News Flash'(http://www.fvpf.org/newsflash), an online newsletter of the Family Violence Prevention Fund.
  • Young women between the ages of 16-24 in dating relationships experience the highest rate of domestic violence and sexual assault.
    Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report: Intimate Partner Violence. May, 2000
  • An average of 28 percent of high school and college students experience dating violence at some point.
    Brustin, S., Legal Response to Teen Dating Violence, Family Law Quarterly, vol. 29, no.2,331 (Summer 1995) (citing Levy, In Love & In Danger: a teen's guide to breaking free of an abusive relationship, 1993)
  • Twenty-six percent of pregnant teens reported being physically abused by their boyfriends - about half of them said the battering began or intensified after he learned of her pregnancy.
    Brustin, S., Legal Response to Teen Dating Violence, Family Law Quarterly, vol. 29, no.2, 333-334 (Summer 1995) (citing Worcester, A More Hidden Crime: Adolescent Battered Women, The Network ../news, July / Aug., National women's Health Network 1993)
  • In the United States, researchers estimate the 40 percent to 70 percent of female murder victims were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, frequently in the context of an ongoing abusive relationship.
    Bailey et al., 1997
  • Fifty-seven percent of homeless families identified domestic violence as a primary cause of homelessness.

what A veritable ass...the us has strategies to lessen the impact. That we are beating them on statistics of wife murder not heard of in our community since the late nineteen hundreds is what I am speaking of.

 

I guess you can argue that smart people exist therefore you are smart and have a better argument!

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:.

what A veritable ass...the us has strategies to lessen the impact. That we are beating them on statistics of wife murder not heard of in our community since the late nineteen hundreds is what I am speaking of.

 

I guess you can argue that smart people exist therefore you are smart and have a better argument!

Let's just get this straight, whenever you make a statistical claim, I will ask for evidence. Please provide the evidence that Guyana is beating the US on statistical wife murder else, stfu.  Your arguments are based on perception rather than facts. 

 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:.

what A veritable ass...the us has strategies to lessen the impact. That we are beating them on statistics of wife murder not heard of in our community since the late nineteen hundreds is what I am speaking of.

 

I guess you can argue that smart people exist therefore you are smart and have a better argument!

Let's just get this straight, whenever you make a statistical claim, I will ask for evidence. Please provide the evidence that Guyana is beating the US on statistical wife murder else, stfu.  Your arguments are based on perception rather than facts. 

 

 

You can do the calculation yourself off hand and not asked to be spoon fed. The murder of women in domestic instances are almost five times the US rate. And that is from a mainly rural society vs an urbanized society.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:.

what A veritable ass...the us has strategies to lessen the impact. That we are beating them on statistics of wife murder not heard of in our community since the late nineteen hundreds is what I am speaking of.

 

I guess you can argue that smart people exist therefore you are smart and have a better argument!

L

 

You can do the calculation yourself off hand and not asked to be spoon fed. The murder of women in domestic instances are almost five times the US rate. And that is from a mainly rural society vs an urbanized society.

 

Just as I thought the dummy has no evidence of his claims, no wonder Howard took you in, they never ask students to provide their sources. Until you provide the stats dummy I suggest you stay quiet. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:.

what A veritable ass...the us has strategies to lessen the impact. That we are beating them on statistics of wife murder not heard of in our community since the late nineteen hundreds is what I am speaking of.

 

I guess you can argue that smart people exist therefore you are smart and have a better argument!

L

 

You can do the calculation yourself off hand and not asked to be spoon fed. The murder of women in domestic instances are almost five times the US rate. And that is from a mainly rural society vs an urbanized society.

 

Just as I thought the dummy has no evidence of his claims, no wonder Howard took you in, they never ask students to provide their sources. Until you provide the stats dummy I suggest you stay quiet. 

I am inclined to believe your own relative  sodomized you in your youth. Hence your obsession and logo  .  I can assist you with the help you need.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:.

what A veritable ass...the us has strategies to lessen the impact. That we are beating them on statistics of wife murder not heard of in our community since the late nineteen hundreds is what I am speaking of.

 

I guess you can argue that smart people exist therefore you are smart and have a better argument!

L

 

You can do the calculation yourself off hand and not asked to be spoon fed. The murder of women in domestic instances are almost five times the US rate. And that is from a mainly rural society vs an urbanized society.

 

Just as I thought the dummy has no evidence of his claims, no wonder Howard took you in, they never ask students to provide their sources. Until you provide the stats dummy I suggest you stay quiet. 

you are so hooked on being presumed smart you augment the idiocy factor with every sentence. The bloody stats are derivable from your post given you should know guyanas.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

you are so hooked on being presumed smart you augment the idiocy factor with every sentence. The bloody stats are derivable from your post given you should know guyanas.

 

You know I am correct,  if you make a claim and you can't support it with credible evidence then it is reasonable to expect others to reject it as hearsay.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

you are so hooked on being presumed smart you augment the idiocy factor with every sentence. The bloody stats are derivable from your post given you should know guyanas.

 

You know I am correct,  if you make a claim and you can't support it with credible evidence then it is reasonable to expect others to reject it as hearsay.  

You know a lot of things that only reside in your head and not of the real world. Your psychiatrist can be of assistance here.

 

Meanwhile, I assert that any dummy can calculate to a fair degree of accuracy the comparative murder rates of women emerging from domestic violence between the two nations from your data and knowledge of the murder rate in guyana.

 

You can reject whatever you care to reject and that would not matter since you rejected good sense a long time ago.

FM
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Some men seem to be waging war on women who, overwhelmingly, have been the victims of domestic violence. When will the war end?

Minister of Human Services and Social Security Priya Manickchand

Minister of Human Services and Social Security Priya Manickchand

Men have been murdering their wives and partners with frightening frequency. Earlier in May, Gertrude Edwards was slashed to death at Ithaca Village, West Bank Berbice. In April, Beverly Mangru was stabbed to death at Vreed-en-Hoop, West Bank Demerara. In March, Savitri Arjune was stabbed to death at Herstelling, East Bank Demerara. In February, Latoya Woolford was stabbed to death at her home in Ruimveldt. In all of these cases, the victims’ partners or spouses were accused of the crimes.

Not only these, but women in several other areas — Annandale, Enterprise and Mon Repos on the East Coast Demerara; Mocha and Herstelling on the East Bank Demerara; Uitvlugt on the West Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice — have been the scenes of many bloody and beastly murders in recent years. There have been many more and thousands of lesser offences. Elsewhere, the elderly, children and men have also been abused. Domestic violence − physical or psychological abuse − is becoming more pervasive. It does not respect race, religion, culture or class and has penetrated every corner of the country and every stratum of society.

Complex

Domestic abuse that leads to violence and murder is seldom sudden or 20090528killedspontaneous. It is usually cold-blooded and calculated and comes as the climax of a continuum of indicative incidents. The question is, and has always been, how can family members, friends and the community at one level, and non-governmental organisations, law enforcement agencies and the administration at another level, recognise the pattern of abuse and do something to prevent the murders and other egregious expressions of abuse?

Domestic violence is not a chance occurrence. Although some of the time the crimes might seem to be concentrated in a few localities, most of the time the causes are varied, the brutality is intense and the scale is widespread. They raise the questions as to why this type of crime has been so prevalent, persistent and apparently unpreventable and what can be done to protect likely victims. In one sense, it might be argued that violent crimes are the products of personal psychopathy and little could be done by society to prevent them. On the other hand, the crimes occur in so many different communities and circumstances that only the state possesses the resources to study the problem and introduce sustainable solutions.

20090528murderedDespite popular belief, domestic violence is not caused primarily by drunkenness, drug abuse or everyday disputes. It is more likely the result of a complex interplay of cultural, psychological and social factors which have combined to create an imbalance of power between persons in a relationship. Where there is domination, or where that power imbalance is abused, domestic violence could occur. When society becomes tolerant of such abuse and when law enforcement agencies fail to act against offenders, domestic abuse could flourish and degenerate into violence. When friends, family members and neighbours ignore a woman’s bruises and when the police fail to prosecute abusers, it becomes easier for the assailant to escape punishment and perpetuate his crime.

Domestic violence is not a misdemeanour. It is a serious crime which should be treated as such. Guyana’s National Policy on Domestic Violence correctly sees the root of the problem as a power play among persons in a relationship:

Victims: All murdered by their abusers

Victims: All murdered by their abusers

Domestic violence should not be seen or defined as simply a set of abusive behaviour: at the root of domestic violence is the real or perceived inequality and subordination of women (and children), which extends beyond the individual or family to the wider society. Such ideas of inferiority and bias because of gender must be challenged if we are to tackle all of the chief sources and causes of domestic violence. Domestic violence should be seen and treated as the violation of fundamental individual and collective rights.

Any campaign to eradicate domestic violence, therefore, must aim at nothing less than changing deep-seated cultural attitudes and behaviour that have been learnt from time immemorial.

Context

No one seems to know for sure just how big the domestic violence problem has become. At the end of last year, the Guyana Police Force confirmed that it had received and investigated 2,811 reports of domestic violence in the policing divisions throughout the country. Of this number, only 579 persons were charged and placed before the courts, while 299 cases were referred to the Probation and Family Welfare Department of the Ministry of Labour, Human Services and Social Security. The police also stated that in 1,609 cases, persons were “warned” at the request of the victims. Investigations were said to be continuing in other reports. The non-governmental organisation Help and Shelter reported handling 468 abuse cases, including child, spousal, non-spousal, and other domestic abuse in 2008. Of these, 306 involved spousal abuse directed against women.

Priya Manickchand, Minister of Human Services and Social Security, explained that research conducted in 1988 showed that two of every three women were victims of domestic violence. She added, “Today we see headlines of women beaten, raped, murdered, battered and we have to ask ourselves that if we are seeing these headlines today but not in the 1980s if it is a result of increased violence against women or could this be attributed to the awareness by the various organisations?”

President Bharrat Jagdeo, addressing the Indian Arrival Committee’s Mela earlier in May, expressed concern over the number of cases of domestic violence and called for women to be “revered in the family and society.” He said that religious leaders have a much more important role to play since “it is not just about administering to the spiritual needs of people but also to the lifestyle needs.”

The problem, however, is neither novel nor simple and it is way too serious for religious groups to handle. Sanctimonious statements and expressions of outrage by usually well-meaning social and religious groups on the frequent killings of partners and spouses have not been very helpful in dealing with such a deep-seated cultural issue. More is needed. Ritualistic calls on the authorities to redouble their efforts to protect women and their children sound insincere and hollow in light of the enormity of the crime.

Domestic violence has been a national priority in Guyana for decades. Official interest was recorded from the time of the adoption of the World Plan of Action in 1975 at the UN Conference on Women in Mexico City. Thereafter, the commitment of various administrations was reflected in their adhesion to several international agreements −  Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women; World Conference on Human Rights (Vienna Declaration and Platform for Action) and  Declaration on the Elimination of Violence against Women;  International Conference on Population and Development (Cairo Programme of Action); Inter-American Convention on the Prevention, Punishment and Eradication of Violence against Women (Convention of Belem do Para); Regional Action Programme for Latin American and Caribbean Women; and the  Fourth World Conference on Women (Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action).

These international conventions have now been supplemented by a national strategy in the form of the National Policy on Domestic Violence that was launched in June last year under the theme ‘Break the cycle, take control.’ That policy aims, ambitiously, at the “transformation of attitudes that condone or normalise such violence such as gender stereotyping and discrimination.” Central to the counter domestic violence campaign is the Domestic Violence Act of 1996 that provides for a raft of measures including protection, occupation and tenancy orders and allowing for custody and maintenance, among other things.

Organisation

There has been a definite surge in public information about the scourge of this crime, despite evidence that killings have continued unabated over the past year. In fact, Priya Manickchand herself acknowledged that deaths at the hands of partners and spouses have increased, a fact that suggests that the perpetrators still feel confident that they can escape punishment for their crimes. Manickchand thinks that there needs to be stronger enforcement of the legislation.

The architecture of organisations and the thrust of public information to counter domestic violence are being transformed. The Ministry of Labour, Human Services and Social Security has two main arms –  the Domestic Violence Policy Unit and the Women’s Affairs Bureau – that deal with this matter to enforce the policy. It has also begun collating statistics on domestic abuse from the police force and hospitals.  Through the Unit, it has been informing various focus groups on measures to protect victims of abuse. It opened a private shelter where abused women seek refuge and additional support is given to Help and Shelter Organisation to provide assistance to victims of violence. Official financial and other forms of assistance are granted to women so that they do not have to return to an abusive relationship; Legal Aid services have been extended and expanded in seven regions to allow women access to legal counselling.

The Red Thread Women’s Development Organisation has long pioneered public information and advocacy on the issue and several NGOs collaborate in information campaigns around the country to heighten awareness. Guyanese Women in Development made a number of proposals for urgent consideration proposing that the perpetrator of violence should be prosecuted whether the victim withdraws the complaint or not; it argued, “An act of violence against a person impinges not only on the rights of that individual, but also on the right of society to benefit from the contributions the victim would have made. The family suffers, the community loses and the nation is poorer either through total loss or curtailed ability to contribute.”

Passing laws and promulgating policies is one thing; enforcing them, punishing offenders and ending abuses are another. The Help and Shelter Organisation, for example, complained that magistrates and magistrates’ courts staff still lacked sensitivity to the delicacy of domestic violence and to their roles in ensuring implementation of the law. In addition, the courts seem not to prosecute cases in which the alleged victim or victim’s family agreed to discontinue the case in exchange for out-of-court monetary settlement, even though evidence exists that a crime had been committed.

The Guyana Police Force – the main law-enforcement agency with responsibility for domestic violence – was slow to respond to the challenge of the crime. In recent years, however, it has gradually succeeded in training hundreds of officers locally and overseas on how to deal with domestic violence; the subject has been incorporated in the curriculum of the Felix Austin Police College. Some police stations still need to be modified to provide privacy to complainants; more female officers need to be deployed to handle sensitive cases and court prosecutors need to understand the gravity of the crime.

Transformation

In the last analysis, domestic violence must be stopped.  But, are the administration, its law enforcement agencies, non-governmental organisations and civil society equal to the task? Can the National Policy’s grand objective − “transformation of attitudes that condone or normalise such violence, such as gender stereotyping and discrimination” − be realised? The prospects, once dim, seem to be getting brighter.

Ralph Ramkarran, Speaker of the National Assembly, last month wrote an article “Women in Danger” in the Weekend Mirror. He described the prevalent practice in the courts of accepting guilty pleas to the lesser count of manslaughter by men who murdered their partners and spouses as “a national disgrace.” He urged court prosecutors to “stop the carnage” and for judges to “simply shape up” in domestic violence cases.

Despite national efforts, which Ramkarran thinks have been only “modest” in relation to the “magnitude of the problem,” the reality seems to be that the scale of domestic violence against women − acts of murder in particular − is undiminished. He concludes that the combined financial, human, material and institutional resources which the state, the NGOs, the police and the justice system have poured in the area of domestic violence prevention have clearly proved to be “inadequate” and the entire approach needs to be re-examined.

Coming from someone at the heart of the legislative and political system, this reads like a damning indictment. It means that the ministries of Labour, Human Services and Social Security, Home Affairs, and Legal Affairs must acknowledge the ubiquity and gravity of the problem and, together, must do everything that is necessary to bring this bloody war against women to an end.

 

http://www.stabroeknews.com/20...-violence-in-guyana/

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You know a lot of things that only reside in your head and not of the real world. Your psychiatrist can be of assistance here.

 

Meanwhile, I assert that any dummy can calculate to a fair degree of accuracy the comparative murder rates of women emerging from domestic violence between the two nations from your data and knowledge of the murder rate in guyana.

 

You can reject whatever you care to reject and that would not matter since you rejected good sense a long time ago.

 

Dummy, read my lips, if you can't back up your claims with statistics or other facts then you are presenting an opinion based on perception.  This is the mantra of the opposition, change the public perception via yellow journalism and half the battle is won.   Now you have really made an idiot of yourself by claiming that a dummy can figure out the comparative murder rates without a proper study. This is yellow journalism that the Kaiteur and Stabroek depend on to influence the minds of you dummies. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You know a lot of things that only reside in your head and not of the real world. Your psychiatrist can be of assistance here.

 

Meanwhile, I assert that any dummy can calculate to a fair degree of accuracy the comparative murder rates of women emerging from domestic violence between the two nations from your data and knowledge of the murder rate in guyana.

 

You can reject whatever you care to reject and that would not matter since you rejected good sense a long time ago.

 

Dummy, read my lips, if you can't back up your claims with statistics or other facts then you are presenting an opinion based on perception.  This is the mantra of the opposition, change the public perception via yellow journalism and half the battle is won.   Now you have really made an idiot of yourself by claiming that a dummy can figure out the comparative murder rates without a proper study. This is yellow journalism that the Kaiteur and Stabroek depend on to influence the minds of you dummies. 

You are a kakahole. I have reasons to believe you are a wife abuser.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

You know a lot of things that only reside in your head and not of the real world. Your psychiatrist can be of assistance here.

 

Meanwhile, I assert that any dummy can calculate to a fair degree of accuracy the comparative murder rates of women emerging from domestic violence between the two nations from your data and knowledge of the murder rate in guyana.

 

You can reject whatever you care to reject and that would not matter since you rejected good sense a long time ago.

 

Dummy, read my lips, if you can't back up your claims with statistics or other facts then you are presenting an opinion based on perception.  This is the mantra of the opposition, change the public perception via yellow journalism and half the battle is won.   Now you have really made an idiot of yourself by claiming that a dummy can figure out the comparative murder rates without a proper study. This is yellow journalism that the Kaiteur and Stabroek depend on to influence the minds of you dummies. 

You insist it is opinion. I claim it is fact given the prevailing stats that we lost 17 women to domestic violence this year. It has nothing to do with any of the news papers but the prevailing reality. As noted, your willful ignorance keeps you mentally stunted.

FM

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