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…Green honoured To say that some (older) eyes popped after Hamilton Green was awarded this nation’s second highest award – the Order of Roraima – would be the understatement of the year. But with the “youth cohort” demographic looming so large nowadays, they need to be informed as to who’s Hamilton Green. Besides converting Georgetown from the “Garden City of the Caribbean” to the “Garbage City of the Caribbean”. Hamilton Green first came to attention during the 1960s’ CIA-fostered ethnic riots. In the (in)famous September 11, 1963 report by the Supt of Police Paul Brittion, Assistant Commissioner of Crime on the PNC, it was stated: “I have investigated 19 reports of crimes which occurred between the 8th June, 1963 and 21st July, 1963 which include placing explosives to building, destroying building with explosives and arson. “I am of the opinion that there is evidence to support a charge of conspiracy, contrary to Section 34 of the Criminal Law (Offences) Ordinance, Chapter 10. The following persons are involved in the crime” (Hamilton Green was among those named). One detail of the report states: “May 1963: … and Green decide at meeting to use explosives on all government buildings; viz Georgetown Ferry Stelling, Government Produce Depot (GMC), and Rice Marketing Board.” We know there was an attempt to bomb the RMB but the sticks of dynamite under the wharf were discovered. Fast forward through the next two decades when Green became the official “enforcer” even while he was heading several Ministries and even became Prime Minister. He was the hatchet man who blocked Dr Walter Rodney’s appointment at UG and who later tried to explain away Fr Darke’s murder by an operative of the House of Israel. But even Burnham became worried about his ambitious “strongman” who began to strut around and act as if he were the Kabaka’s successor. In August 1984, Burnham removed him as First Vice President and Prime Minister – and replaced him with Desmond Hoyte. The latter, of course, became President after Burnham passed away the following year. He made Green PM but peripheralised him as he brought in new faces in an attempt to change the PNC’s thuggish image. Green violently apposed Hoyte relinquishing power after the 1992 elections and was expelled from the PNC. Whereupon he formed the GGG party, won the elections as Mayor of Georgetown – and proceeded to run down the City as he’s done to everything else he headed. And for all the foregoing, he received the Order of Roraima. Your Eyewitness understands several recipients of the award are planning on returning their medals.

 

…Minister follows the “Green Way” As recounted in the book, “Dangerous Times”, back in 1979 when Hamilton Green was Minister of Labour and Health, he was on a tour at a work place. He accosted the wife of Moses Bhagwan who was working there. Referring to the fire that destroyed Congress Place (blamed on the WPA) he told her supervisor, “She is a threat to this place. Get rid of her.” Fortunately the head of the company said that he was the administrator and the Minister couldn’t fire her. Well, with that sort of high-handed behaviour deemed worthy enough to earn an Order of Roraima, it’s already spawned imitators.

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Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Hoping the Granger supporters out there in la la land would respond...please share your opinion.

VM

does comrade Hammie really need another dedicated thread?

 

it seems like u following instructions . . .

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Hoping the Granger supporters out there in la la land would respond...please share your opinion.

VM

does comrade Hammie really need another dedicated thread?

 

it seems like u following instructions . . .

Address the issue. Why give one of Guyana's highest awards to a criminal. Pretty soon, Blackie will receive one. I wonder if Jammie knows who were involved in Rodney's assassinatio. Maybe, this is to keep him quiet.

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Hoping the Granger supporters out there in la la land would respond...please share your opinion.

VM

does comrade Hammie really need another dedicated thread?

 

it seems like u following instructions . . .

Address the issue. Why give one of Guyana's highest awards to a criminal. Pretty soon, Blackie will receive one. I wonder if Jammie knows who were involved in Rodney's assassinatio. Maybe, this is to keep him quiet.

did u actually read my freakin post before u brayed?

 

i am becoming more and more convinced that u, VM and much of the 'newbie' cohort are nothing more than a Guyana Timesish rearguard

FM
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The awards were meant to be national and non-partisan.

 

I have a problem with dead people getting awards ahead of living people.

I have a problem with people with awards already getting higher awards.

Have a problem with lack of ethnic balance and diversity.

Have a problem with many former party apparatchicks getting so many awards.

And lack of consultation and protocols.

 

FM

Unlike you Redux, I keep an open mind...and I read ALL the Guyana dailies. i will ignore the opinionated trite reference...I simply ask for opinions. You are free to, as they say, "flip to another TV channel" if you dont like what you are watching.  

V
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Unlike you Redux, I keep an open mind...and I read ALL the Guyana dailies. i will ignore the opinionated trite reference...I simply ask for opinions. You are free to, as they say, "flip to another TV channel" if you dont like what you are watching.  

i'll charitably suggest you contemplate further on what i mean by "Guyana Timesish rearguard" . . . in context

 

arite?

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

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Have a problem with lack of ethnic balance and diversity.

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I thought that Lord Moses parted the waters and all the blacks flocked behind him, including Granger.  So what is all your fuss about?

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Redux, I did, and ...my comments stand.

oh, i have no doubt that your comments "stand"

 

whether they address anything i posted is another matter altogether

FM

Why don't you guys stand behind Moses so that he can help bring meaningful changes to the constitution. In addition, if you are a PPP supporter why not protest against Jagdeo so he starts giving his supporters good leadership and also contribute to constitutional reform. Why are some people determined to see themselves as vivtims?

FM

President of the future and leading Guyana into the future. And then the first thing he does is to honour a dubious character from the past that he knows is sure to evoke criticism from at least half of the population?  Why ?

FM
Originally Posted by TK:

Why don't you guys stand behind Moses so that he can help bring meaningful changes to the constitution. In addition, if you are a PPP supporter why not protest against Jagdeo so he starts giving his supporters good leadership and also contribute to constitutional reform. Why are some people determined to see themselves as vivtims?

Absolutely correct on both points. But we cannot let the new gov't think that because the PPP was less than it should be, that they can get away with anything. We have seen how that works out. And yes, it has to start from day one. And if the recognition of Greene is an indication of the wisdom of this new administration, then we have cause for concern. Therefore, and you are right, we should stand behind Moses and urge him to push for constitutional reform.

FM

Franky, this makes sense to me. Blind support and loyalty to any government is never a good thing. We can only move forward if the current structure of government is transformed.

 

This is for TK: The word is that you were upset that the PPP did not allow you to run the Bank of Guyana, so you switched sides and joined the opposition. Any truth to this brother...just wondering??

V

TK:

 

Franky represents what most Guyanese think - the PPP with 49+% and those non-PNC Coalition supporters who see Green as scum.

 

Coalition must be sensitive.  LGE coming up soon.  Too early to send bad signals. People think the Cabinet is weak but are staying quiet in this honeymoon period.

 

WE are standing behind Moses so he can stand alongside Granger not behind.

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Franky, this makes sense to me. Blind support and loyalty to any government is never a good thing. We can only move forward if the current structure of government is transformed.

 

This is for TK: The word is that you were upset that the PPP did not allow you to run the Bank of Guyana, so you switched sides and joined the opposition. Any truth to this brother...just wondering??

Yea...Pavi said that in 2006. Ask him.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

TK:

 

Franky represents what most Guyanese think - the PPP with 49+% and those non-PNC Coalition supporters who see Green as scum.

 

Coalition must be sensitive.  LGE coming up soon.  Too early to send bad signals. People think the Cabinet is weak but are staying quiet in this honeymoon period.

 

WE are standing behind Moses so he can stand alongside Granger not behind.

I think you have to look at it from a cost-benefit perspective. Assume the PPP won the election with 45% of the votes, Jagdeo is in charge, Burnham's constitution stands, what would be AFC's contribution to effecting change? What could Moses/Khemraj/Cathy/Ramaya/etc accomplish in Parliament given that constitution and Jagdeo's unenlightened approach?

 

FM
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Would you be willing to run the PPP/C? 
 
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Franky, this makes sense to me. Blind support and loyalty to any government is never a good thing. We can only move forward if the current structure of government is transformed.

 

This is for TK: The word is that you were upset that the PPP did not allow you to run the Bank of Guyana, so you switched sides and joined the opposition. Any truth to this brother...just wondering??

Yea...Pavi said that in 2006. Ask him.

 

V
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

TK,  Would you be willing to run the PPP/C?

Y'all need to get PPP to stop behaving like spoil pickneys and start representing the 49% of people who voted for them. They should be outlining their vision for a new constitution. That's not my job.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Zed:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Hoping the Granger supporters out there in la la land would respond...please share your opinion.

VM

does comrade Hammie really need another dedicated thread?

 

it seems like u following instructions . . .

Address the issue. Why give one of Guyana's highest awards to a criminal. Pretty soon, Blackie will receive one. I wonder if Jammie knows who were involved in Rodney's assassinatio. Maybe, this is to keep him quiet.

did u actually read my freakin post before u brayed?

 

i am becoming more and more convinced that u, VM and much of the 'newbie' cohort are nothing more than a Guyana Timesish rearguard

I see you have problems with comprehension. The question was whether there was a need for another thread on hammIe. Well. My response was an obvious answer. Also, I wish to assure you that I work for no one and post what I think and on topics that interest me. I live in Guyana and the criminal Hamilton green receiving a national award is of concern to me.

Z

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