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The 1985 Jagan/Burnham talks on shared governance
January 21, 2009 | By knews | Filed Under Letters

Dear Editor,



I read Mr. Emile Mervin’s well constructed and incisive letter in Monday’s Kaieteur News (January 19) dealing with shared governance.

His grasp of this issue is such that I commend every leader and citizen, irrespective of political affiliation, to read.

In his final paragraph, he posed a tester to me about the 1985 Jagan/Burnham talks on shared governance.

First, the talks were not aborted. There were some interesting moments. But I need now speak, and Elvin Mc David can support me on this. The two leaders had agreed on a menu of measures in the interest of Guyana and to fulfill a dream they both shared for the young people.

This agreement was also to satisfy the enthusiasm of many young people, like myself, who gave up a personal path to progress and joined in the political struggle after the British suspended the Constitution in 1953.

They agreed to the provisions for shared governance that would have brought an end to the unhappy divisions which still, like a cancer, consume our society. Burnham had planned to present the proposals to the PNC Congress of August 1985.

Unhappily, Burnham’s sudden demise and the accession of Desmond Hoyte brought an end to this laudable initiative. I believe that because Hoyte was not intimately involved in the details of those talks, he did

not share an enthusiasm for further dialogue.

It is public knowledge that in my own way I sought to revive this process, but Mr. Hoyte seemed not interested.

In fact, Dr. Joey Jagan can confirm that he and Cheddi came to my home in Lodge one evening; the idea was to privately find a way to revive the discussions. One gained the impression from certain elements within both parties that this was not a top priority at the time.

When I set about my autobiography, there is more I can say on this and related matters. For now, suffice to say that I learnt from certain sources that Mr. Hoyte was very unhappy about the Jagans’ visit to my home.

Suffice to say to Mr. Emile Mervin that the talks Jagan and Burnham had died suddenly when the latter passed away; and for many of us who were in the early struggle, it was a sad day when those two leaders — patriots in their own right – came to the end of their lives before they could have both been reunited.

On the question of Local Governance, I restate my view that the only feasible step in extant conditions, if we are to achieve that utopia, is to agree to substantial reform of the Local Government system, so that the people can feel empowered through their local representatives, and not strangled and choked from the top.

Hamilton Green J. P.

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Originally posted by Wally:
It is interesting to read how the politicans behave in private. While we fools are killing ourselves over them in public.

Burnham died suddenly, but what did CBJ do in his five year tenure to move the process forward?
FM
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Originally posted by Wally:
It is interesting to read how the politicans behave in private. While we fools are killing ourselves over them in public.


Yes so Cheddi liked sharing governance with Burnham. Now dont you PPP sycophants not look foolish every time you raise teh Burnham bogey man flag. Had he not died PPP=PNC.

So obviously Cheddi didnt think that Burnham was so bad. No wonder Jagdeo ha ssuch deep admiration for Burnham.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:

Burnham died suddenly, but what did CBJ do in his five year tenure to move the process forward?


Discuss/negotiate specifically with whom .. ??
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by baseman:

Burnham died suddenly, but what did CBJ do in his five year tenure to move the process forward?


Discuss/negotiate specifically with whom .. ??


You don't answer a question with a question, except if you don't comprehend. Where did Baseman use the words discuss/ negotiate?
Mitwah
Caribj may have a point. Dr Cheddi did say in a speech when Hoyte was President. I think it was a May Day speech at the national park. It was broadcast on the radio station. There must be a copy of that speech somewhere. "Comrade Burnham must be turning in his grave at how the economy is being transformed". I realized then that Dr.J did not like some of the capitalist reforms that Hoyte was doing with the economy and prefer Burnham's socialist economy.
FM
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Originally posted by Wally:
It is interesting to read how the politicans behave in private. While we fools are killing ourselves over them in public.

Wally, Dr Cheddi Jagan would have moved mountains and drained rivers if that was what it took to unite Indo- and Afro-Guyanese. His overriding dream was to revive the spirit of national unity that was manifested in the early 1950s.
Dr Jagan was convinced that Guyana would never move forward if almost half its population felt left out.
Considering how arrogantly President Desmond Hoyte was behaving towards the PPP at that time, there was nothing wrong with Dr Jagan seeking some support privately from Hamilton Green, who at that said time had great influence in the PNC.
Dr Jagan did not visit Mr Green's house to beg for a glass of mauby or to get a duty-free car for himself. His visit was a small part of a grand plan to unite the two major races in Guyana. Cheddi Jagan was a unifier, not a splitter.
B
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Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
It is interesting to read how the politicans behave in private. While we fools are killing ourselves over them in public.


Yes so Cheddi liked sharing governance with Burnham. Now dont you PPP sycophants not look foolish every time you raise teh Burnham bogey man flag. Had he not died PPP=PNC.

So obviously Cheddi didnt think that Burnham was so bad. No wonder Jagdeo ha ssuch deep admiration for Burnham.


Jagan was a man of principle who always believed in shared governance. For the good of Guyana, the great Cheddi would work with the devil {Burnham}.

As Green letter states that Hoyte was not interested in shared governance, so after Cheddi was elected president he had other matters to take care of in the government. It was on his agenda to discuss shared governance
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by Bookman:

Cheddi Jagan was a unifier, not a splitter.


Something one should remember about the late Dr. Cheddi Jagan.


Yes but Uncle cheddi also lied to many, while he was such a huge advocate of communism and all that was russia and the communist bloc. He refused to send his children to any communists communes for education.

Instead he chose to send them to western schools in capitalist countries? why? Many of us need to ask ourselves that question. I urge many of you older gentlemen to read Clem Seecharrans book bitter sweet sugar.
J
Nadira Jagan went to the soviet union found it extremely difficult left and went straight to North America.

Joey straight to north america.

All of the other Jagan nieces and nephews are all dual citizens either in Canada or the US and they all studied there.

Today we see the same hypocrisy in the PPP today Uncle Book and there is no denying that. Robert Persaud is busy having anchor babies in the US why is he not going to a private hospital in Guyana or to GPHC?

Dr. Luncheon who is viewed as a Jagan man and an elder of the party goes to the US to get eye surgery why isn't he joining the people and going to Cuba as the govt is doing with other folks?

This duplicity is being viewed by the people as deep betrayal and they see it as telling us to do as I say not as I do.
J
You are the DUMBEST ASS on the Planet looking to steal from the Guyanese People. You have nothing to give the Guyanese People but is DESPERATE to gain POWER and WEALTH at the expense of others. You talk and write CRAP all day, make absolutely no damn sense, talking to yourself for personal enjoyment. Bellvue or Berbice Mad House have Vacancy.
Nehru

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