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PPP General Secretary, Bharrat Jagdeo (left) and PPP presidential candidate, Irfaan Ali.

February 7 2020

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Two citizens have asked the High Court to order the Representative of the People’s Progressive Party’s (PPP) list of candidates, Bharrat Jagdeo to produce the academic qualifications of presidential candidate, Irfaan Ali in light of concerns that one of them might be fake.

Attorney-at-Law, Stephen Lewis, for the applicants Diana Rajcumar and Phillip Marcus, wants the High Court to declare that they are “entitled to know the qualification antecedents” of Ali.

The Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) is named as the second respondent.

Rajcumar and Marcus say that in keeping with their constitutional right to freedom of expression, “in particular to receive ideas and information without interference” and their constitutional “right to vote” they “have a right to information on the candidates for the election” including their educational background.

“Consequent on their constitutional right to vote, they are entitled to know the educational antecedents of the candidates to access, process and interpret along other with information, before deciding to vote for a candidate, and “the applicants, as persons, intending to exercise their right to vote are entitled to be privy to facts giving insight in the candidate’s capacity and suitably for acting as a President, Parliamentarian or a legislator including details of his/her life educational qualifications,” Rajcumar and Marcus said in court papers filed through their lawyer, Lewis.Rajcumar is an aide to the Minister of Public Security, Khemraj Ramjattan.

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Attorney-at-Law Stephen Lewis.

The applicants want the High Court to order disclosure of Ali’s first degree certificate and transcripts for any first degree conferred on the candidate and information on the name of the university, or institution issuing the first degree within seven days of the date of the Order.

Further , they want information setting out whether the candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali was issued with a Certificate of Graduation, which states that it was issued by the Business College, West Demerara Chamber of Commence, within seven days of the date of the Order; information on whether any studies at the said Business College, West Demerara Chamber did lead to a BA Degree in Planning within seven days of the date of the Order; a copy of any transcript issued by the said Business College, West Demerara Chamber in respect of a BA Degree in Planning within seven days of the date of the Order; information on whether any Degree was obtained by the Candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali from the University of Sunderland within seven days of the date of the Order; a copy of the Certificate of any said Degree from the University of Sunderland along with any transcripts from the University of Sunderland in relation to any Degree obtained by the candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali from the University of Sunderland within seven days of the date of the Order.

Alternatively, an Order that the second named respondent produce for the applicants’ perusal the First Degree Certificate and Transcripts for any First Degree conferred on to the Candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali within seven days of the date of the Order, the name of the University, or institution from which the said First Degree was obtained within seven days of the date of the Order; Information concerning the nature of the study completed in relation to the any First Degree within seven days of the date of the Order; information setting out whether the Candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali was issued with a Certificate of Graduation, which states that it was issued by the Business College, West Demerara Chamber within seven days of the date of the Order; information whether any studies at the said Business College West Demerara Chamber did lead to a BA Degree in Planning within seven days of the date of the Order; a copy of any transcript issued by the said Business College West Demerara Chamber in respect of a BA Degree in Planning within seven days of the date of the Order; information whether any Degree was obtained by the Candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali from the University of Sunderland within seven days of the date of the Order; a copy of the Certificate of any said Degree obtained from the University of Sunderland along with a Transcripts obtained from the University of Sunderland in relation to any Degree obtained by the Candidate Mohamed Irfaan Ali from the university of Sunderland within seven days of the date of the Order or such other order the Court deems just.

Rajcumar said she and Marcus decided to move to the court after she observed that Ali was refusing to be forthright in answering questions and providing information surrounding his qualification.

She says that on or about the 29th January, 2020, she wrote a letter to Jagdeo as the head of the List of Candidates for the PPP/C in which she sought information on Ali.

Rajcumar and Marcus say that as far as they are aware, Ali did not make a statutory declaration as a candidate on the PPP’s List of Candidates stating his qualifications and consent.

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The constitution does not require any one to declare their academic qualifications or a candidate to have degree. This is another case on one half plus the other half equal the truth about degrees .

Academic qualification is just a achievement which  a candidate used to convince the electorate.. he has the tool . In Guyana, election is about Party and not individuals. It’s either PPP or PNC. 

The constitution requires a sitting member of parliament not to have dual citizenship, someone should take this to court and let the court order a declaration of all those who said they relinquish their dual citizenship status. 

FM

Sheer skoant!!! There is no academic requirement to be a candidate for anything in Guyana. Even GNI's VishMahabir can be a candidate for anything he wants. Last I heard, he was tending to the impounded fowls at the police station.

FM
Dave posted:

The constitution does not require any one to declare their academic qualifications or a candidate to have degree. This is another case on one half plus the other half equal the truth about degrees .

 

Dave I thought you said that you are an English major. Did you attend that West Demerara Chamber of Commerce, Business College?

You have a warped way of defining truth.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Dave posted:

The constitution does not require any one to declare their academic qualifications or a candidate to have degree. This is another case on one half plus the other half equal the truth about degrees .

 

Dave I thought you said that you are an English major. Did you attend that West Demerara Chamber of Commerce, Business College?

You have a warped way of defining truth.

Thank you for correcting my grammatical errors, I was wondering if I am fluent in English.. can you give me some advice how  to improve. 

FM
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One does not have to be a college graduate to hold public office anywhere in the world. Irfraud lied to the Guyanese public when he said he had certain types of academic certificates . Does the Guyanese public want some who lies even before getting into office ?

Anand
Dave posted:
Mitwah posted:
Dave posted:

The constitution does not require any one to declare their academic qualifications or a candidate to have degree. This is another case on one half plus the other half equal the truth about degrees .

 

Dave I thought you said that you are an English major. Did you attend that West Demerara Chamber of Commerce, Business College?

You have a warped way of defining truth.

Thank you for correcting my grammatical errors, I was wondering if I am fluent in English.. can you give me some advice how  to improve. 

There are lots of free YouTube videos on this subject; if you are serious. 

Mitwah
RussianBear posted:

One does not have to be a college graduate to hold public office anywhere in the world. Irfraud lied to the Guyanese public when he said he had certain types of academic certificates . Does the Guyanese public want some who lies even before getting into office ?

This is precisely the point--it is not about academic qualifications to hold public office, it is about deceit and trustworthiness. It is truly mind boggling that Jagdeo and his cronies at Freedom House have chosen Ali as the PPP's presidential candidate.  Imagine a person claiming a degree from a non-existent institution and the PPP knowing this still selecting him as its presidential candidate.  

T
Totaram posted:
RussianBear posted:

One does not have to be a college graduate to hold public office anywhere in the world. Irfraud lied to the Guyanese public when he said he had certain types of academic certificates . Does the Guyanese public want some who lies even before getting into office ?

This is precisely the point--it is not about academic qualifications to hold public office, it is about deceit and trustworthiness. It is truly mind boggling that Jagdeo and his cronies at Freedom House have chosen Ali as the PPP's presidential candidate.  Imagine a person claiming a degree from a non-existent institution and the PPP knowing this still selecting him as its presidential candidate.  

Being deceitful and untrustworthy could be a prerequisite for them.

cain
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Mitwah posted:
Dave posted:
Mitwah posted:
Dave posted:

The constitution does not require any one to declare their academic qualifications or a candidate to have degree. This is another case on one half plus the other half equal the truth about degrees .

 

Dave I thought you said that you are an English major. Did you attend that West Demerara Chamber of Commerce, Business College?

You have a warped way of defining truth.

Thank you for correcting my grammatical errors, I was wondering if I am fluent in English.. can you give me some advice how  to improve. 

There are lots of free YouTube videos on this subject; if you are serious. 

Thank You!

FM

Plenty lungeera on display early this morning. All them PNC in office must show their academic transcripts , plenty frauds parading as government ministers. What good for Ali is good for All.

K
kp posted:

Plenty lungeera on display early this morning. All them PNC in office must show their academic transcripts , plenty frauds parading as government ministers. What good for Ali is good for All.

Yes, agreed, if people have fake qualifications they must be exposed.  However, a specific allegation has been made against Ali and that is the subject of this discussion.  Do you believe that someone with a degree from a non-existent university should be a presidential candidate?  

T
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

T
Nehru posted:

Ali does not have to show crap to anyone. He will be a FOOL if he does. That is his personal business! There is NO requirement for him to do so!!

How is it his personal business when he is seeking to be the president of Guyana?  He has told the world that he has a degree from a school that doesn't exist. You are trying to defend the indefensible.  Is this the kind of person you want leading a country you supposedly care about?   

T

Guyana is surely a shithole country. It’s voters are faced with two choices. Either voting for Ali who is suspected of being deceitful or Granger who has already proven that he is deceitful.

FM
ksazma posted:

Guyana is surely a shithole country. It’s voters are faced with two choices. Either voting for Ali who is suspected of being deceitful or Granger who has already proven that he is deceitful.

Deceitful, Barbaric, Criminal, untrustworthy, corrupt, incompetent and unfit!!

Nehru
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and Comrade Nagamootoo and many in Coalition are honorable qualified leaders. The opposition fraud and want to just get rich. Coalition must continue..

Let Zagaaaa tell you how he got rich and mislead the nation. You should be ashamed of propping up that daaag  

FM
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when?  The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

K
kp posted:
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when?  The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

This is about Ali's fake qualifications.  Is this what has become of Cheddi's party?  

T
Totaram posted:
kp posted:
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when?  The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

This is about Ali's fake qualifications.  Is this what has become of Cheddi's party?  

Look the PPP don't need your vote, go and torment the PNC, the racist party. Tola you know the PNC did not give you anything because you are a FAKE.

K
Mitwah posted:
kp posted:

Plenty lungeera on display early this morning. 

You should not allow them to disturb your rest. BTW, it was a lungera  who invented the bicycle. 

Brampton Funeral Home looking for singers, go and make noise.

K
Dave posted:
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and Comrade Nagamootoo and many in Coalition are honorable qualified leaders. The opposition fraud and want to just get rich. Coalition must continue..

Let Zagaaaa tell you how he got rich and mislead the nation. You should be ashamed of propping up that daaag  

He /she is a Commie, is Nagga slop carrier.

K
kp posted:
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when? 

The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

Everyone knows that ,LYING about qualifications aren't accepted. Do some of you listen to yourselves ? using dirty tactics to look good.

Django
kp posted:
Mitwah posted:
kp posted:

Plenty lungeera on display early this morning. 

You should not allow them to disturb your rest. BTW, it was a lungera  who invented the bicycle. 

Brampton Funeral Home looking for singers, go and make noise.

How much are they paying? Is it better than you paying $200.00 an hour lying on a couch talking to someone with a fake degree from the West Demerara University?

Mitwah
skeldon_man posted:

Sheer skoant!!! There is no academic requirement to be a candidate for anything in Guyana. Even GNI's VishMahabir can be a candidate for anything he wants. Last I heard, he was tending to the impounded fowls at the police station.

Knucklehead...i already said this was a political move on the part of Ramjattan. The Constitution does not require a presidential candidate to have any type of academic qualifications.

However, people reap what they sow. The fact that its now receiving national attention is because Ali and the PPP has perpetuated a national fraud. He should be exposed and the institution that issued him a phd conducting its own investigation.

 In most countries a candidate in this mess will recuse himself or resign from office. The entire PPP leadership, knowing this, is guilty of perpetuating a fraud...and so are YOU and DAVE.

V
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Django posted:
kp posted:
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when? 

The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

Everyone knows that ,LYING about qualifications aren't accepted. Do some of you listen to yourselves ? using dirty tactics to look good.

Not only looking , but I am GOOOD.  Moses and Rumjaat lied to the sugar workers and rice farmers, they got rewarded to Prime Minister by the dripping blood hand Granger. Investigate those that hold office, they are the ones accountable to the taxpayers. The Voters in Guyana don't care about Ali's qualifications, the are concerned about JOBS, Food on the table and the HIGH crimes. Over three years these FOOLS occupy office, did noting for the poor, now month before election are giving away freebie like drunk sailors and making promises that they would never deliver.

The problem with all ayuh, you don't have a degree, ayuh got DEGREE ENVY.  Never too late to go to school.

K
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when? 

The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

Everyone knows that ,LYING about qualifications aren't accepted. Do some of you listen to yourselves ? using dirty tactics to look good.

Not only looking , but I am GOOOD.  Moses and Rumjaat lied to the sugar workers and rice farmers, they got rewarded to Prime Minister by the dripping blood hand Granger. Investigate those that hold office, they are the ones accountable to the taxpayers.

The Voters in Guyana don't care about Ali's qualifications, the are concerned about JOBS, Food on the table and the HIGH crimes.

Over three years these FOOLS occupy office, did noting for the poor, now month before election are giving away freebie like drunk sailors and making promises that they would never deliver.

The problem with all ayuh, you don't have a degree, ayuh got DEGREE ENVY.  Never too late to go to school.

Which section of the voters aren't concerned ,tell us ? the last sentence is rubbish ,no one have envy ,LYING about qualifications are academic FRAUD.

Django
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Django posted:
kp posted:
Totaram posted:
Nehru posted:

KP, Jackasses all around> Yes Hammie gun show his Birth Cert

What does Hammie's birth certificate have to do with this?  It is about Ali's fake degree from a non-existent school.  How can you possibly condone this ?

Tell me what are the qualifications of all the PNC holding offices and let them show their transcripts. You don't have to have s degree to be the president of Guyana, since when? 

The fact is the PPP has the momentum leading to the next election,  victory all the way and you lungeera gutter Rats clutching unto dry grass.

Everyone knows that ,LYING about qualifications aren't accepted. Do some of you listen to yourselves ? using dirty tactics to look good.

They don't understand the ramifications with the International scene.

Mitwah
VishMahabir posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Sheer skoant!!! There is no academic requirement to be a candidate for anything in Guyana. Even GNI's VishMahabir can be a candidate for anything he wants. Last I heard, he was tending to the impounded fowls at the police station.

Knucklehead...i already said this was a political move on the part of Ramjattan. The Constitution does not require a presidential candidate to have any type of academic qualifications.

However, people reap what they sow. The fact that its now receiving national attention is because Ali and the PPP has perpetuated a national fraud. He should be exposed and the institution that issued him a phd conducting its own investigation.

 In most countries a candidate in this mess will recuse himself or resign from office. The entire PPP leadership, knowing this, is guilty of perpetuating a fraud...and so are YOU and DAVE.

You talking Sheer skoont, For four years they asked Trump to show his tax return and he refused. Try asking Trump to show his qualifications, he will tell you to fly a kite. So don't give me that ram goat marbles.

K

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