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Crooked Hillary Needs to Find Some New Tricks.  Remember when she accused Obama of Plagiarism in 2008.

Clinton Camp Says Obama Plagiarized in Speech

By JEFF ZELENYFEB. 19, 2008.  New York Times

NILES, Ohio — With the next round of voters set to weigh in on the Democratic presidential race, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign on Monday accused Senator Barack Obama of committing plagiarism in a weekend speech. Mr. Obama dismissed the charge as absurd and desperate.

Mr. Obama told reporters he should have credited Gov. Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, a friend, for a passage in a speech he delivered on Saturday in Milwaukee. But Mr. Obama said his rival was “carrying it too far.”

“Let’s see,” Mr. Obama said. “I’ve written two books. I wrote most of my speeches. I would add that I noticed Senator Clinton, on occasion, has used words of mine as well.”

The exchange injected a fresh dose of contention into the bitter fight for the Democratic nomination. Mr. Obama said two of his standard lines — “It’s time to turn the page” and “Fired up and ready to go” — have made their way into Mrs. Clinton’s remarks in recent weeks.

As Mrs. Clinton campaigned in Wisconsin in advance of the primary there on Tuesday, one of her top advisers, Howard Wolfson, convened a conference call with reporters to accuse Mr. Obama of plagiarizing Mr. Patrick’s remarks from a 2006 campaign appearance.

Mr. Wolfson said it was important for voters to know that Mr. Obama’s rhetoric, at least in this instance, was not original.

During a news conference here, Mr. Obama said he and Mr. Patrick “trade ideas all the time.” Asked if he should have given credit to Mr. Patrick, he said, “I’m sure I should have,” but he said he doubted that voters were concerned by the dust-up.

“I’m happy to give Deval credit, as I give to a lot of people for spurring all kinds of ideas,” he said. “But I think it’s fair to say that everything we’ve been doing and generating excitement and the interest that people have had in the elections is based on the core belief in me that we need change in America.”

The controversy arose after Mr. Obama, of Illinois, delivered a speech at a Democratic Party dinner in Wisconsin. He responded to criticism from Mrs. Clinton, of New York, who argued that Mr. Obama might deliver smooth speeches, but that she was better prepared to solve problems.

“Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” he said in his remarks. “ ‘I have a dream.’ Just words? ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.’ Just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words? Just speeches?”

The passage was similar to one used by Mr. Patrick in response to similar criticism.

Mr. Patrick said he and Mr. Obama discussed the argument in advance and he encouraged his friend to defend himself the same way he did during his race in 2006.

 

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So true with these Liberals.  Hillary did exactly that to him, and all the Liberal's hero, and they went after her and for gave him!

Today she revert to the same old same old!!

FM
ba$eman posted:

So true with these Liberals.  Hillary did exactly that to him, and all the Liberal's hero, and they went after her and for gave him!

Today she revert to the same old same old!!

She did plagiarize significant portions of someone else s work. Obama apologize. These folks lied, prevaricate , obfuscate and do like you do, try to detract.

If you need an example of a nasty man, how about saying Cruz father killed Kennedy and  Carson was a pedophile?  He spent years saying Obama was a Kenyan and never went to any of the schools he said he attended.

Note that is the crazy dishonest person you need to question but the two of you are below the baseline for morality so you do not care.

FM
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Stormborn posted:
ba$eman posted:

So true with these Liberals.  Hillary did exactly that to him, and all the Liberal's hero, and they went after her and for gave him!

Today she revert to the same old same old!!

She did plagiarize significant portions of someone else s work. Obama Wiatapologize. These folks lied, prevaricate , obfuscate and do like you do, try to detract.

If you need an example of a nasty man, how about saying Cruz father killed Kennedy and  Carson was a pedophile?  He spent years saying Obama was a Kenyan and never went to any of the schools he said he attended.

Note that is the crazy dishonest person you need to question but the two of you are below the baseline for morality so you do not care.

It not like she tied to pull off a Biden or Obama, doing something and not expecting people to connect the dots.  Do you really believe she would steal Michelle's lines used so publicly in 2008 at a similar event and not expect it to be exposed?  Her speech writer may have unwittingly wrote it not realizing it was the same words.

FM
ba$eman posted:
Stormborn posted:
ba$eman posted:

So true with these Liberals.  Hillary did exactly that to him, and all the Liberal's hero, and they went after her and for gave him!

Today she revert to the same old same old!!

She did plagiarize significant portions of someone else s work. Obama Wiatapologize. These folks lied, prevaricate , obfuscate and do like you do, try to detract.

If you need an example of a nasty man, how about saying Cruz father killed Kennedy and  Carson was a pedophile?  He spent years saying Obama was a Kenyan and never went to any of the schools he said he attended.

Note that is the crazy dishonest person you need to question but the two of you are below the baseline for morality so you do not care.

It not like she tied to pull off a Biden or Obama, doing something and not expecting people to connect the dots.  Do you really believe she would steal Michelle's lines used so publicly in 2008 at a similar event and not expect it to be exposed?  Her speech writer may have unwittingly wrote it not realizing it was the same words.

Of course I would not believe it but guess what? It happened! The evidence is there for you to see. As I noted, any sentence with more than six words would most likely be unique ie the first time they were ever uttered by any human. Imagine stringing together three paragraph of more than nine words per sentence  and having them appear in two documents as is and you have an impossibility...It was a stolen speech! The hired speech writers declared publicly, they did not do it.

Trying to triangulate this is not going to make it go away. Most certainly   Hillary campaign did not write it. And dumb you is following the Manifort campaign response. Everyone and their mama believes the speech was cribbed and these fellows are lying through their teeth. That is what happens when you have a family with no experience in these things pretending they can do it all. The speech came from them

FM
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"Hillary Clinton, putting big government spending financed by the Chinese ahead of jobs for middle class Americans guilty or not guilty? In Syria, she called President Assad a "reformer" and a "different kind of leader".

With 400,000 now dead ... think about that.

Four.

Hundred.

Thousand. Dead.

At the hands of the man Hillary defended."

- Chris Christie

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:

"Hillary Clinton, putting big government spending financed by the Chinese ahead of jobs for middle class Americans guilty or not guilty? In Syria, she called President Assad a "reformer" and a "different kind of leader".

With 400,000 now dead ... think about that.

Four.

Hundred.

Thousand. Dead.

At the hands of the man Hillary defended."

- Chris Christie

Big government was created by bush....doubling....Obama had to close down a war that squandered three trillion dollars ( same amount lost to deregulation of banks resulting in wall street collapse as the rich stole their ass off_). Obama added 11 million jobs on top of the 8 million lost.

She also did not say Asad was a reformer. She said ". "Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he's a reformer." She also did not say he was a different kind of leader. She said he was a different leader.

Christie is putting his spin on what she said to make the case she created the conditions prevailing presently in Syria. He is feeding slow thinkers like you who are too lazy to research the truth. He failed to mention Congress refused to give Obama the authority to declare a war in the area. They wanted to lay the blame on him alone rather than to their partisan politics which decided to go contrary to anything he would do from day one.

FM
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ba$eman posted:
Stormborn posted:
ba$eman posted:

So true with these Liberals.  Hillary did exactly that to him, and all the Liberal's hero, and they went after her and for gave him!

Today she revert to the same old same old!!

She did plagiarize significant portions of someone else s work. Obama Wiatapologize. These folks lied, prevaricate , obfuscate and do like you do, try to detract.

If you need an example of a nasty man, how about saying Cruz father killed Kennedy and  Carson was a pedophile?  He spent years saying Obama was a Kenyan and never went to any of the schools he said he attended.

Note that is the crazy dishonest person you need to question but the two of you are below the baseline for morality so you do not care.

It not like she tied to pull off a Biden or Obama, doing something and not expecting people to connect the dots.  Do you really believe she would steal Michelle's lines used so publicly in 2008 at a similar event and not expect it to be exposed?  Her speech writer may have unwittingly wrote it not realizing it was the same words.

hehehehe.....classic clutching at straws. NY Times today reported from conversations with Melania's speechwriters that the Lady changed up their suggested speech for her completely and they did not hear back from her at all. They only knew of the speech when they heard ti. OMG!! OMG!!!

Kari
Bibi Haniffa posted:

"Hillary Clinton, putting big government spending financed by the Chinese ahead of jobs for middle class Americans guilty or not guilty? In Syria, she called President Assad a "reformer" and a "different kind of leader".

With 400,000 now dead ... think about that.

Four.

Hundred.

Thousand. Dead.

At the hands of the man Hillary defended."

- Chris Christie

putting big government spending financed by the Chinese ahead of jobs for middle class Americans.............for the uninitiated please explain the facts about this political statement (you yourself might not even know what the heck Christie is talking about).

You really don't believe that G W Bush's de-Baathification led directly to ISIS formation and that the Arab Spring protests in 2011 in Syria led to ISIS moving from Iraq to Syria?

Kari

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