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FM
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How the manufacturing sector in Guyana was destroyed

 

Guyana has to go down in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most failed manufacturing enterprises. It is hard to contemplate a country with more failed and loss-making state-owned manufacturing enterprises than Guyana under the PNC.

The heyday for manufacturing was not in the 1990s. The heyday for manufacturing in Guyana was in the 1970s, when the State assumed control of the economy.

As part of that process, a number of private enterprises were taken over by the government and a number of state enterprises were created.

These new entities as well as those nationalized, turned out to be disasters. Ironically, the heyday also turned out to be the haymaker, as one by one the manufacturing enterprises went under.

The PNC government was following the advice of Sir Arthur Lewis, who had suggested that Caribbean economies needed to be industrialized.

For Burnham, this meant import substitution. So whatever Guyana was importing, Burnham decided that a substitute could be produced locally.

This is how the philosophy of self-reliance was conceived for Guyana. It was Burnham’s way of convincing the Guyanese people that his plan for industrialization would be feasible, because the industries would be producing what Guyana was importing.

It was a careless and reckless experiment. But who was going to stand-up and tell Burnham that he was wrong and that he was leading Guyana on a course of disaster.

Manufacturing establishments were created. Some took off only to flounder in flight. Others never got going at all, and left Guyana with a huge debt.

Guyana was supposed to have a factory to produce bicycles, so that Guyanese could ride to work and beat the fuel crisis. Burnham wasn’t riding any bicycle though. And neither were the thousands of Guyanese waiting for the assembled bicycles to roll off the production line.

In 1976, the government entered into a line of credit agreement with the Government of India to assemble Atlas bicycles. It was expected that Guyana would produce some 12,000 bicycles per year for local use and for exports to the Caribbean. The bicycle factory collapsed.

The government also established a cassava factory. Well, that worked for a time but also went under.

There were big plans for the extraction of silica from sand. A glass factory was constructed. It flopped. It was said that the aircraft passing overhead caused vibrations that cracked the glass produced. Some people took that joke seriously and still give it as the reason why the glass factory collapsed. The fact is that this was a case of poor planning, and there were no markets to sell the products to.

A paint factory was built. This also proved to be a failure. People complained about mildew. By the time the factory got it right, a severe foreign exchange crisis crippled its operations.

A leather factory was established. That too failed. It seems like everything the PNC touched in those days failed.

The Chinese came and with great fanfare established the Sanata Textile Mill. The mill was supposed to produce textiles from cotton grown at the National Service camps. Well, the National Service was another massive failure and could not supply enough cotton to make cotton wool much less to be weaved into fabric.

The soap factory produced bubbles. The snack food factory went packing.  The factory that produced refrigerators fared well for a time, but then was destroyed by the foreign exchange crisis. GRECO, the radio manufacturing, went out of service. The Guyana Pharmaceutical Corporation fared better, but was always going to have to be privatized since it was operating way below capacity.

The PNC destroyed manufacturing in Guyana. The companies that did survive were those that enjoyed protection. But that is such a long story that it will have to wait for another day.

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As I said umpteen times, Manufacture cannot sustain itself without cheap and reliable power.  If this could be addressed, the business community will fulfill the manufacturing aspects!

Amelia would have provided that break-out capability!  However, the PNC/AFC clowns ensure that does not happen.  Why?  To spite the PPP and BJ, nothing to do with the well being of the Guyana nation!

FM

When I look at the Trinidad manufacturing sector. It is very dynamic but it was built on foreign currency earned by oil exports. That paid for the machines, chemicals and other things that had to be imported to keep the manufacturing sector functioning. Guyana has to find a product to export that can earn that foreign currency or some way make foreign investment attractive.

Prashad
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Prashad posted:

When I look at the Trinidad manufacturing sector. It is very dynamic but it was built on foreign currency earned by oil exports. That paid for the machines, chemicals and other things that had to be imported to keep the manufacturing sector functioning. Guyana has to find a product to export that can earn that foreign currency or some way make foreign investment attractive.

The Govt has to provide cheap and reliable power and the supporting infrastructure.  After that, the business community, along with the Govt can push for sustainable and viable manufacturing.  The PNC/AFC screwed up big time by blocking Amelia!!

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:

PPP/C's focus to provide hydroelectric power will be impeded by the PNC/AFC's reluctance to accept its benefits for development in Guyana.

Amaila started out at an estimated cost of around US $450 million. How did it skyrocket to US $1 billion?

APNU/AFC is not against hydropower development in Guyana. They just do not think that it's wise to pay US $1 billion for a 165 megawatt plant. Which other countries in their right minds are doing that? 

 

Mars
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At the time of Independence Guyana was a primary producing country in the main with sugar and bauxite earning about 90% of hard currency earnings, and rice the bulk of soft currency (East Caribbean and Trinidad). Bauxite was reeling from the technology changes that rendered calcined bauxite (Guyana had a world monopoly of this grade bauxite) less important in lining kilns for steel production though the US and British guaranteed sugar arrangement meant sugar was safe.

After the 1st oil shock following the Arab-Israeli "Yum Kippur" war, commodities prices went up and Burnham got a windfall after consolidating power following the rigged 1973 elections. After that 2-yr boom during which Burnham nationalized two industries that were going south and spending on military procurement and swapping bauxite for No. Korean arms), Guyana found itself in a lot of sovereign debt and dwindling foreign currency. When debt servicing consumed a disastrous percentage of foreign currency earnings (remember rice was sold for oil from Trinidad) Burnham turned to import restrictions. Then came roti, kapad or makan (feed, house and cloth the nation).

This naturally affected the nascent light manufacturing industries. Y'all know the rest - flight of human and currency capital to North America; no foreign presence in Guyana as it turned socialist in the heydays of the cold war. The Berlin wall coming down and the PPP/C 1992 victory brought debt relief and some foreign investment in light manufacturing back (fish and shrimp and furniture especially). But as is being pointed out, costly energy  kept a brake on such investment and technology transfers. Our education system became the minors to the American major league industrial market. The security situation in early 2000s and more emigration (human and capital) added to these woes. Drugs and money laundering with consumer real estate were substitute for the technology wave that Guyana missed out on (bandwidth being a major impediment).

The PPP/C was in a holding pattern for the Ramotar years and now the Coalition government can't get out of its own way. Meantime oil (low energy prices means costly exploration gets stymied) and hydro energy takes years of gestation period and Guyana seems to have no clue on how to get an educated workforce that comes with manufacturing upgrades.

 

Kari
Mars posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

PPP/C's focus to provide hydroelectric power will be impeded by the PNC/AFC's reluctance to accept its benefits for development in Guyana.

Amaila started out at an estimated cost of around US $450 million. How did it skyrocket to US $1 billion?

APNU/AFC is not against hydropower development in Guyana. They just do not think that it's wise to pay US $1 billion for a 165 megawatt plant. Which other countries in their right minds are doing that? 

 

Ok, now you go ahead with it, or what you think it wise.  The leader of opposition says he will back any project that is good for the people of Guyana.  Call him on it, just do it and stop prancing!!

FM
Kari posted:

At the time of Independence Guyana was a primary producing country in the main with sugar and bauxite earning about 90% of hard currency earnings, and rice the bulk of soft currency (East Caribbean and Trinidad). Bauxite was reeling from the technology changes that rendered calcined bauxite (Guyana had a world monopoly of this grade bauxite) less important in lining kilns for steel production though the US and British guaranteed sugar arrangement meant sugar was safe.

After the 1st oil shock following the Arab-Israeli "Yum Kippur" war, commodities prices went up and Burnham got a windfall after consolidating power following the rigged 1973 elections. After that 2-yr boom during which Burnham nationalized two industries that were going south and spending on military procurement and swapping bauxite for No. Korean arms), Guyana found itself in a lot of sovereign debt and dwindling foreign currency. When debt servicing consumed a disastrous percentage of foreign currency earnings (remember rice was sold for oil from Trinidad) Burnham turned to import restrictions. Then came roti, kapad or makan (feed, house and cloth the nation).

This naturally affected the nascent light manufacturing industries. Y'all know the rest - flight of human and currency capital to North America; no foreign presence in Guyana as it turned socialist in the heydays of the cold war. The Berlin wall coming down and the PPP/C 1992 victory brought debt relief and some foreign investment in light manufacturing back (fish and shrimp and furniture especially). But as is being pointed out, costly energy  kept a brake on such investment and technology transfers. Our education system became the minors to the American major league industrial market. The security situation in early 2000s and more emigration (human and capital) added to these woes. Drugs and money laundering with consumer real estate were substitute for the technology wave that Guyana missed out on (bandwidth being a major impediment).

The PPP/C was in a holding pattern for the Ramotar years and now the Coalition government can't get out of its own way. Meantime oil (low energy prices means costly exploration gets stymied) and hydro energy takes years of gestation period and Guyana seems to have no clue on how to get an educated workforce that comes with manufacturing upgrades.

 

Banna learn to cut to the chase and get to the heart of the matter rather than foaming up like this!!  You talk a lot of nothingness!!

FM
ba$eman posted:

As I said umpteen times, Manufacture cannot sustain itself without cheap and reliable power.  If this could be addressed, the business community will fulfill the manufacturing aspects!

Amelia would have provided that break-out capability!  However, the PNC/AFC clowns ensure that does not happen.  Why?  To spite the PPP and BJ, nothing to do with the well being of the Guyana nation!

So why does Jamaica and the DR have manufacturing sectors that are more developed than Guyana?  In fact even Barbados is ahead of Guyana!

One day you wil admit that the PPP lacked the capacity to handle Amalia.  It would have been a fiasco just like Skeldon, and just like all those Burnham projects which failed.  Except that it would have landed Guyana into a very deep debt.

If the PPP couldn't even build the road to Amalia, without wasting millions, how could they have been trusted?  You refuse to accept this fact.

 

FM
ba$eman posted:
 

Banna learn to cut to the chase and get to the heart of the matter rather than foaming up like this!!  You talk a lot of nothingness!!

Even though Kari refuses to confront you with your racism, to his credit he doesn't engage in your simplistic "blackman can't run a cake shop".

Why in the past 23 years did Guyana fail to develop a manufacturing sector equivalent to that of the larger Caribbean countries. 

Our sector is scarcely more developed than that of St Lucia!

FM
Mars posted:
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Amaila started out at an estimated cost of around US $450 million. How did it skyrocket to US $1 billion?

 

 

Easy, when the PPP uses a front like Fip Motilall, so that they can siphon off dollars.

FM
ba$eman posted:
 

Ok, now you go ahead with it, or what you think it wise.  The leader of opposition says he will back any project that is good for the people of Guyana.  Call him on it, just do it and stop prancing!!

Bet you if Granger had a fiasco like Fip Motilall you would be prancing like a monkey, screaming "ah tell you blackman cyant run a cakeshop".

FM
Kari posted:

). But as is being pointed out, costly energy  kept a brake on such investment and technology transfers. Our education system became the minors to the American major league industrial market. The security situation in early 2000s and more emigration (human and capital) added to these woes. Drugs and money laundering with consumer real estate were substitute for the technology wave that Guyana missed out on (bandwidth being a major impediment).

 

 

All true for Jamaica and yet that island has a vibrant manufacturing sector.  This is even though Jamaica got IMF'd because of its high debt, while Guyana was able to get its debt written off.

In the early 90s interest rates in Jamaica were as high as 40%, and yet the sector survived.

Jamaica has brands which are well known outside of that island. What brands does Guyana have?

Jamaicans aren't more educated than are Guyanese, and yet they have been upgrading their call centers from the basic order taking to dealing with technical customer service issues.

Guyanese just make too many excuses.  Our private sector is primitive, and will rather invest in speculative ventures than in the productive sectors.  Our governments are similarly backward.

What is Guyana's problem?  RACE!  Way more destructive than is the well known class and color warfare of Jamaica.

FM
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In fact just look at the difference between how Jamaicans celebrated their 50th and how we are.

Jamaica is a fractured nation, as is Guyana. Jamaicans used their anniversary as an event to UNITE Jamaicans as a people.  Because for Jamaica to move forward their political tribalism and class/skin color warfare must end.

We have one side screaming that its a waste of time.  NOT because they think so, but because they are angry that they lost power.  Something that they thought would never happen, so they are yet to get over the shock.

We know fully well that the PPP is very capable of wasting taxpayer funds, when they wish. Look at their lavish expenditures during the 2011 and 2015 elections, when huge amounts were spent on expensive shows. 

I recall when civil servants were commanded (Burnham style) to anoint Jagdeo as God, this being in 2011. Good for them few civil servants bothered to show up.

This is at core as to why Guyana lives way below its potential.

FM

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