In agreement.  The UK has been a member of the European Union since 1973 and opting out now will have economic consequences across Europe at a time when both the British pound and Euro are weakening against the US Dollar.  It would be interesting to see the outcome when the polls close later today.  But I believe the Brits will vote to remain in the union.

In agreement as well.

Let's see what the voters say. Unfortunately  we have seen the loss of live of a Parliamentarian by a a person of hate.

  If Britain leaves it means travel, work, living in europe becomes problematic. I want to live in Spain. My sis got us some swank properties at depressed prices and I hope to be able to go there freely in the future. Exit from the union would make it difficult. Spain is popular with brits. Many will have to leave losing value in their homes in this harsh economy if they do

Many Brits have been buying homes in Spain over the past few years. 

I am for Britain to exit the Union. There are thousands of racist poles and other racist Eastern Europeans coming into the country and beating up Pakis and East Indian people. Time for Britain to leave.

My sister got abused by bigoted paki Muslims in Luton.I do not know but Poles never bothered me.

Poles are skilled workers and work mainly in construction and heavy industry. Britain leaving will mean depression here.

Last  hour of voting and the voting seems close.  The bet is on remaining in the EU..

There were lots of bets that was placed, good for the bookies.

Mars posted:

I hope so.

Danyael you are one dumb fool. You put money in front of people. you don't fool people on this Board into believing that those central and Eastern Europeans that are coming into Britain are not racist towards Pakis and East Indians. They are extremely racist towards our people particularly the Polish.

They put our people lives at risk. Britain needs to leave the European Union and concentrate on building the Commonwealth instead of staying in this race trap.

If Britain were to exit look for Scotland to bring back a referendum to leave the UK. The Welsh may soon follow. The border area between Northern Ireland and Ireland (which is still in the EU) will become problematic. Britain will lose all those subsidies rom the EU and will have to negotiate a new Trade Agreement which will be on less favorable terms than being a member. Washington may pivot to Berlin as Great Britain becomes Little England.

Brexit is led by the racist UKIP and Boris Johnson who from the 1990s was anti-EU for the wrong reasons.

I don't think Brexit wins today. Britain will remain.

Prashad posted:

Danyael you are one dumb fool. You put money in front of people. you don't fool people on this Board into believing that those central and Eastern Europeans that are coming into Britain are not racist towards Pakis and East Indians. They are extremely racist towards our people particularly the Polish.

They put our people lives at risk. Britain needs to leave the European Union and concentrate on building the Commonwealth instead of staying in this race trap.

 

You are clearly bonkers. Poles have never done me wrong. But then again I do not know many Poles personally.  I live among eastern europeans, mainly Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, etc. and they are all quite nice to me.

These are all beautiful people and while they may be racist I have not seen it. I cannot speak to Indian experience with these people. I only can speak to what I know. 

Contrary to you, I want Britain to remain. I think it would be better for Britain and for Europe. The commonwealth did not want to be a part of the Federation so they made a choice decades ago.

You are even dumber than I was thinking.

Coming from you that is a compliment...you and thinking do not go together.

Boris is married to a Sikh woman he himself comes from a long line of blond Turks he knows exactly what is going on. Thatcher hated South Asians but she also hated Europeans like Italians but these people like Cameron are all about creating opportunities for the white race.

With just over 10% of reporting Brexit has a lead over Remain.

From Reuters

Prashad posted:

Boris is married to a Sikh woman he himself comes from a long line of blond Turks he knows exactly what is going on. Thatcher hated South Asians but she also hated Europeans like Italians but these people like Cameron are all about creating opportunities for the white race.

 

Whoever has ulterior personal plans I only see the benefit to the whole. Britain will spare itself internal disintegration, ethnic discontent and connection to global markets. Many brits live outside Britain in Europe. They benefit no less than Poles. Note Poles are nationalistic and they are temporary workers who have "left behind families" to whom they want to return. No one kicked us out, treated us badly or sought to build walls except Trump. We are here and we contribute. Similarly Poles who remain contribute.

The markets are already trembling....lots of 401Ks will take a beating if the Leave win.

The pound is taking a hammering. Down almost 10%. Leave has a substantial lead and it's growing steadily.

I am going to bed. They are up half a million and that appears impossible to overcome. Sad day....

These central and Eastern Europeans use white skin racial unity and use minorities by playing the us vs them race card to (for a better word) curry favor with the British people in order to get up in British society. It is time Britain leaves Europe and reestablish its role in the Commonwealth.

Danyael posted:

The markets are already trembling....lots of 401Ks will take a beating if the Leave win.

There will be a short-term rotation as there are winners and losers!

Unprecedented!  Britain is leaving the EU.  David Cameron resigns as Prime Minister.  There will be havoc in the world markets today.

There will be an upheaval but the UK will suffer the most.  Lot's of UK jobs will move to the EU territory!  The effects on the markets will not be long lasting but the UK will suffer long-term!

Prashad posted:

These central and Eastern Europeans use white skin racial unity and use minorities by playing the us vs them race card to (for a better word) curry favor with the British people in order to get up in British society. It is time Britain leaves Europe and reestablish its role in the Commonwealth.

Shut your stupid racist behind. This will not stop racism but it will now mean an new level of isolationism that will adversely affect Britain. The idea that this is to avoid racism of others is bunk. The people who support this are the racist nationalist,  bigots. They now have to live with it.

Now Scotland should ask to leave since they voted overwhelming to remain in the EU.

US markets - Dow Jones is pointing to a 700 point drop in early trading.  Ayyyeeee!!!!!

S&P Global ratings is preparing to downgrade UK's  credit rating.

Dow futures down over 500 points. Donald Trump happy. Farage and Johnson win. See the correlation?

Soros is making another billion on the back of the pound.

Danyael posted:

Prashad posted:

These central and Eastern Europeans use white skin racial unity and use minorities by playing the us vs them race card to (for a better word) curry favor with the British people in order to get up in British society. It is time Britain leaves Europe and reestablish its role in the Commonwealth.

Shut your stupid racist behind. This will not stop racism but it will now mean an new level of isolationism that will adversely affect Britain. The idea that this is to avoid racism of others is bunk. The people who support this are the racist nationalist,  bigots. They now have to live with it.

You are accusing me of being a racist. The numerous acts of racism and racial violence against East Indians by Poles, Germans and other central /Eastern Europeans in Britain is there to see. What people like you don't see is the behind the scenes racial incitement of the British people against minorities that these Central and Eastern Europeans do  to curry favor with the British people and get up in British society.

Brexit good for the PNC, gold up 5%, oil down 4% and the dollar holding firm.

I believe the impact of Brexit is being overplayed though there will be short term uncertainties.  The Brits were never fully in with both feet.  They did not join the currency union and the maintained a hard border even though they are a Shengen country!

Prashad posted:

Danyael posted:

Prashad posted:

These central and Eastern Europeans use white skin racial unity and use minorities by playing the us vs them race card to (for a better word) curry favor with the British people in order to get up in British society. It is time Britain leaves Europe and reestablish its role in the Commonwealth.

Shut your stupid racist behind. This will not stop racism but it will now mean an new level of isolationism that will adversely affect Britain. The idea that this is to avoid racism of others is bunk. The people who support this are the racist nationalist,  bigots. They now have to live with it.

You are accusing me of being a racist. The numerous acts of racism and racial violence against East Indians by Poles, Germans and other central /Eastern Europeans in Britain is there to see. What people like you don't see is the behind the scenes racial incitement of the British people against minorities that these Central and Eastern Europeans do  to curry favor with the British people and get up in British society.

You hate poles because some poles hate indians. That is as bigoted as the poles who hate indians. That is a straight forward argument. There are white people everywhere that hate minorities. That does not drive me to hate white people because I have white neighbors and they are to a large extent like everyone else, worrying about their personal problems and not unkind to me.  I can see from trump fly over country support base that in other areas the ideas about immigrants are different. My neighbors are mainly white immigrants.

Trump has taken a far more pragmatic approach to the whole Brexit affair, that is, say less as it's the will of the people.  I dont agree with his entire stance but why wade into another nation's internal affairs.  Obama, on the other hand, says Britain now moves to the back of the line.  What the heck does he mean, Britain has been our best ally before the EU.  Trump grasp it and said no, Britain remains in the front of the line.  Given it was due process and the people have spoken, it was the best approach. This is a matter for the Brits to decide.

Personally, I think they should have stayed, but those bloody Limeys always have a problem with a dominant Germany!

Trump had predicted this.  Watch now for the rest of the EU to disintegrate one country at a time.  The European countries have to protect their borders against the "enemy" as immigration and terrorism take root.  Brussels is doing nothing to help these countries so now it's time for them to step out and take charge.  Trump is going to one up them all the way.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump had predicted this.  Watch now for the rest of the EU to disintegrate one country at a time.  The European countries have to protect their borders against the "enemy" as immigration and terrorism take root.  Brussels is doing nothing to help these countries so now it's time for them to step out and take charge.  Trump is going to one up them all the way.

Right wing nationalism is not the way to go. It is where we were at the beginning of the 19th century. It resulted in brutal wars, and generalized poverty. The Maastricht treaty was a beacon of hope that there would be one people one, europe, one purpose. It was an experiment that consociationalism can replace ethnic nationalism.   Fear of Muslims has generated a resurgence of ethnic nationalism and fractures within the union. What will come out of this cannot be good for the region.

We have to see where this leads. This nationalist trend is due to nations losing control of their nations.  We see this right here in the USA. Islamic terrorism in all its forms is rapidly becoming an existential threat to free people the world over!

The markets are tumbling

Is this the moron we want to be POTUS?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-ma...-appearance-scotland

Trump baffles with bizarre appearance in Scotland

Vish M posted:

The markets are tumbling

Diversification is the name of the game.  I learnt my lesson the hard way in the late 1990s.

Vish M posted:

The markets are tumbling

decline less than 3%, it will come back!e

Buying opportunity Vish.  Buying opportunity.