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I lost hope in Guyana

February 15, 2013 | KN

Dear editor

Four weeks ago, I attended Parliament and the debate was on the 40th anniversary of diplomatic relations with Cuba. It was a rare occasion: all parliamentarians were in agreement.

What I heard during that debate deeply disturbed, troubled and made me lose hope and faith in Guyana's future. I've been attending the National Assembly regularly, and it was one of the rare times that all three parties (PPPC, APNU, and AFC) agreed unanimously during a debate.

All the parliamentarians agreed that Fidel Castro is one of the greatest leader s in history, and Cuba is one of the greatest countries in the world.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing and was dumbfounded. All the parliamentarians of Guyana agreed that Fidel Castro is a great leader and that Cuba is a great country. And here is the part that made me lose my hope and faith in this countryโ€™s future. It was when the ministers said that Guyanese should follow in the footsteps of Mr. Castro and Cuba.

While I agree that Cuban has made contributions to Guyana by providing medical expertise and training to Guyanese, the parliamentarians never mentioned that Mr.Castro is a dictator, and Cubans are not free. They only mentioned the good things about Mr. Castro and Cuba.

In addition, they didn't mention that over the years, hundreds of thousands of Cubans have run away from Cuban to be free. They never mentioned that the island of 11 million people suffered decades of economic deterioration. They never mentioned that in the last 50 years Cubans weren' permitted to buy and sell homes and cars among themselves.

Furthermore, they never mentioned that for the past 50 years Cubans had to get permission from Mr. Castro to leave Cuba. In other words, Cubans weren't free to leave as they like. Cubans had to ask their father (Mr. Castro) to leave Cuba.
Moreover, they never mentioned that Cuba doesn't permit freedom of speech, press, or free elections, and it doesn't have a democratically elected government. They never mentioned that Cuba remains a repressive society, which embraced a totalitarian brand of communism.

The lesson that I learned on that day in the National Assembly was that it doesn't matter which party (PPPC, APNU, AFC) holds power, that party will be leading this nation in the footsteps of Cuba. And that, my friend, made me lose hope and faith in Guyana's political leaders and ultimately in Guyana as a nation.

Anthony Pantlitz

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Anthony is a sick man who needs to be put down like a parasite infested dog.

Fidel is no longer in charge so he can't be a dictator. Cuba is not the only country where you have to ask permission to leave. Even in Guyana you need a passport to leave legally, and a visa to show up afterwards in most countries.

Cuba has a vibrant tourism trade, and foreigners are enjoying the changes brought in by Raoul.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Anthony is a sick man who needs to be put down like a parasite infested dog.

Fidel is no longer in charge so he can't be a dictator. Cuba is not the only country where you have to ask permission to leave. Even in Guyana you need a passport to leave legally, and a visa to show up afterwards in most countries.

Cuba has a vibrant tourism trade, and foreigners are enjoying the changes brought in by Raoul.

Except for us Americans which is really dumb. Europeans and others are investing in Cuba tourism sector Americans are loosing out on such opportunities.

Pointblank
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

The PPP are shrewd, they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. Cuba have been good to Guyana over the years, better than the US have been in some regards with their medical services and scholarships to students. The US does the same with China and many other countries that have dictatorships, they look the other way in the interest of trade and other reasons. 

Correct, in the end, the national interest of Guyana is what counts.  Guyana also see Cuba playing a critical role in mediating with Chavez for a weakening of their claim to Guyana's territory.

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Anthony is a sick man who needs to be put down like a parasite infested dog.

Fidel is no longer in charge so he can't be a dictator.

Cuba has enjoyed a very bouyant tourist trade since the mid 90s and Fidel was very much around then.  It is also true that much of their tourism consists of young Cuban females (many of whom are minors) prostituting themselves to ugly white men who cant get laid in their own countries, to earn sorely needed cash.  And sadly many husbands and fathjers turn a blind eye to this.

 


You are really naive if you dont think that the Fidel Castro apparatus that he built isnt alive and kicking.  Also the reforms by raul are a joke.  There is tremendous red tape and corruptiuon involved in opening a business, which the govt can then close down when ever it feels like and for what ever reason it choses.  This in addition to the massive taxation.

 

In the mean time Cubans are still not allowed to voice their opinions without fear of repercussions.

 

To make it easy for you.  Were this a Cuban forum by now ALL of us who criticize the govt would have seen our relatives in Guyana harrassed, and maybe arrested by the govt and the Cuban govt would have definitely shut down this site.

 

We Guyanese seem quite happy that the freedoms whcih we demand for ourselves should not be made available to Cubans.

 

We must be the biggest hypocrities as I can tell you that the ills of Jagdeo and Burnham BOTH pail in comparison to what the Castros brothers did to that island, which by the way used to be the 4th wealthiest country in the Americas behind only the USA, Canada and Argentina.

 

Not ONE of us would live in Cuba for a day so I fail to see why some pretend as if either Raul or Fidel are anything other than monstrous tyrants.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Correct, in the end, the national interest of Guyana is what counts.  Guyana also see Cuba playing a critical role in mediating with Chavez for a weakening of their claim to Guyana's territory.


I wonder why you think that Raul, who is terrified that the death of Chavez would mean that the billions he receives from Venezuela (in the form of oil) will not suddenly come to an end.

 

Raul is interested in his own survival and any belief by you that he cares about what Chavez does to Guyana is silly.  Note that Chavez as an army officer in times past was LOUDLY hostile to Guyana.  To date he is NEVER relinquished Venezuela's claims to our territory.

 

And a post Chavez Venezuela will be too busy solving its myriad problems that Chavez ignoired as he ssought a page in world history.  Caracas is a very dangerous city and the oil industry is in serious disrepair.  So they will not  have time for either Guyana or Cuba.

 

And as to Guyana and our dependence on medical personnel.  You do know that this is done only to buy our support, and clearly they have succeeded.  One day when Cuba no longer needs our support do you rerally think that this will continue?  So many the many scores of Cuban doctors leave what sort of care will Guyanese get?  Why are we not preparing for that day?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

The PPP are shrewd, they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them.

True.  So they can thank Cuba for helping them disguise the fact that Guyana ha salmost no experienced doctors available to serve most Guyanese.  And beyond that say nothing.

 

Indeed its disturbing that BOTH the PPP and APNU admire the way that the Catsros DOMINATE Cuba and one can only wonder if/when they will attempt to do the same to Guyana.  And its possible as Burnham did it, and Janet tried to do it but enraged black women forced her out.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Correct, in the end, the national interest of Guyana is what counts.  Guyana also see Cuba playing a critical role in mediating with Chavez for a weakening of their claim to Guyana's territory.


I wonder why you think that Raul, who is terrified that the death of Chavez would mean that the billions he receives from Venezuela (in the form of oil) will not suddenly come to an end.

 

Raul is interested in his own survival and any belief by you that he cares about what Chavez does to Guyana is silly.  Note that Chavez as an army officer in times past was LOUDLY hostile to Guyana.  To date he is NEVER relinquished Venezuela's claims to our territory.

 

And a post Chavez Venezuela will be too busy solving its myriad problems that Chavez ignoired as he ssought a page in world history.  Caracas is a very dangerous city and the oil industry is in serious disrepair.  So they will not  have time for either Guyana or Cuba.

 

And as to Guyana and our dependence on medical personnel.  You do know that this is done only to buy our support, and clearly they have succeeded.  One day when Cuba no longer needs our support do you rerally think that this will continue?  So many the many scores of Cuban doctors leave what sort of care will Guyanese get?  Why are we not preparing for that day?

Caribj, no one does anything for free.  US aid is linked to political positions and support in the UNGA and other places.  I think the PPP is preparing for the day when Cuba cannot/will not provide the assistance.  This is why they have local medical training.  Granted, the Cubans are way ahead, but I'm sure they will fill the vacuum.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

True.  So they can thank Cuba for helping them disguise the fact that Guyana ha salmost no experienced doctors available to serve most Guyanese.  And beyond that say nothing.

 

Indeed its disturbing that BOTH the PPP and APNU admire the way that the Catsros DOMINATE Cuba and one can only wonder if/when they will attempt to do the same to Guyana.  And its possible as Burnham did it, and Janet tried to do it but enraged black women forced her out.

In fact you are wrong. With the scholarships handed out by Cuba to Guyanese students over the past two decades, many Guyanese doctors and medics are not practicing in Guyana. If you had kept abreast of the news coming out of Guyana you would know this. However because you are but a absentee Guyanese who think you know it all based on perception, you would not be aware of this fact. 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Caribj, no one does anything for free.  US aid is linked to political positions

Here is the rub.  Loads of Guyanese live in the USA and tens of thousands wish they did.  NO Guyanese who knows anything about Cuba wishes to live there, and indeed few even wish to visit there.

 

This because of the destruction that trhe Castro brothers have done to what was once the fourth richest country in the Americas.

 

I find it interesting that a hard core capitalist like you who thinks that Obama is too "socialist" seems to find tons of excuses for the Castro regime, an anarchronism in a world where few believe that govt sponsored totalitarianism benefits any one other than the political elites.

 

I have no problem in Guyana accepting Cuban help.  What I find interesting is their whine about not "interfering" in Cuba's internal affairs when the very brutes whine that CARICOM countries said the same thing about Burnham, even while privately they said otherwise.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
, many Guyanese doctors and medics are not practicing in Guyana.. 


And why is that?  You do know that Cubantrained doctors are veryu shabbily treated in the USA so why did they leave Guyana?  Ought that not be more of a priority than depending on Cuban largesse when such help will be quickly withdrawn as soon as a Cuban govt decides that they have no political reason to offer it.

 

Castro considers the CARICOM countries to be run by a group of stupid monkeys.  He is a proud Latin American and has no respect for a bunch of black run (including Indians) nations who were "too lazy" to fight for their own independence.

 

Consider 100% dependence on  a man who thinks this.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
, many Guyanese doctors and medics are not practicing in Guyana.. 


And why is that?  You do know that Cubantrained doctors are veryu shabbily treated in the USA so why did they leave Guyana?  Ought that not be more of a priority than depending on Cuban largesse when such help will be quickly withdrawn as soon as a Cuban govt decides that they have no political reason to offer it.

 

Castro considers the CARICOM countries to be run by a group of stupid monkeys.  He is a proud Latin American and has no respect for a bunch of black run (including Indians) nations who were "too lazy" to fight for their own independence.

 

Consider 100% dependence on  a man who thinks this.

Guyana will not refuse help because of political reasons. You don't see doctors from US/CA and GB flocking here, the Cubans have been good partners over the years. During the Burnham years you were not complaining, but now you are in the US with access to free healthcare via section 8, you are quick to call the pot black. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 but now you are in the US with access to free healthcare via section 8, you are quick to call the pot black. 

I note that you seem to be quite the expert in Section 8.  How exactly does a housing voucher provide free medical care?

 

The fcat that Cuban doctors flock to Guyana when Guyanese doctors flee to Grenada, just goes to show how sordid life in Cuba must be.

 

If after all those scholarships Guyana still needs Cubans shows that most of the Guyanese flee Guyana as soon as they can.

FM

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