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Late President Arthur Chung tops list of dead people on PLE

Supporting evidence that Guyana’s late first president, H.E Mr Arthur Chung is listed on the current PLE

 

GUYANA’s first president, His Excellency Mr Arthur Chung, tops a list of scores of people who, though dead, are still included on the Guyana Elections Commission’s (GECOM) current Preliminary List of Electors (PLE).

Investigations by this newspaper have confirmed the inclusion of Chung’s name on the PLE, as well as the names of several other high-profile figures who are now deceased.

Arthur Chung

Arthur Chung

 

A source at GECOM told the Guyana Chronicle that names for the PLE are generated from the National Register of Registrants (NRR), and, as per the Commission’s procedures, are removed from the NRR only after the General Registrar’s Office (GRO) has forwarded authentic documentation indicating those persons have died.

 

“If the Commission receives a report from the GRO saying that a death was registered, then it removes that name from the list. The Commission has to see authentic documentation in the same way it demands authentic documentation for first-time registration,” the source said.

Minister Clement Rohee

Minister Clement Rohee

 

The GECOM source added that, in the event that a death has not been registered and the name of a deceased person remains on the NRR — even a high profile name like that of former president Chung — the Commission depends on the various measures it has in place to ensure that no person votes twice or casts a vote for someone else.

 

“The GRO sends a list monthly to the Commission. The Commission does not go out for information…anyone who is reported as dead, the claims and objections period provides the opportunity for that name to be objected to, and there is a procedure to treat with any such objection with a view to determining whether the objection be upheld or denied,” the source said.

The ongoing process of objections ends on September 3.

 

A CLEAN LIST

General Secretary of the ruling PPP, Mr Clement Rohee, when asked to comment on the issue, told the Guyana Chronicle that the party wants a “clean” list of electors, and has been writing

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DCEO, Mr. Vishnu Persaud

the Commission about the names of deceased persons included on the list.

He said, “As we find the names of persons who are deceased, we have been writing to GECOM. Our party activists on the ground have been using the claims and objections period to bring this problem to the attention of the Commission.”

 

Rohee added that, given that the Commission uses either authentic documentation from GRO or documentation from persons raising objections, there ought to be some flexibility by GECOM to ensure the credibility and integrity of the final voters’ list.

 

“GECOM has to exercise some flexibility where persons, including well-known persons, who have died can be removed. Our party has been working with GECOM to address this, but GECOM needs to work closer with the GRO. For GECOM to wait for someone to object, well we are not going to get a far way this way,” Rohee said.

 

Rohee also said that while GECOM insists that it has measures in place to avoid persons voting twice, or someone voting for someone else, past experience makes it clear that the system is not water tight.

“If someone wants to bog the system, they can find ways and means to do so. We are working to ensure this does not happen. We all have a role to play, and we must work together to clean up the list as much as possible…. If we build Chinese wall around the system, we would have a problem,” he said.

 

Rohee stressed that the ruling party has a vested interest in ensuring that the Official List of Electors (OLE) is a clean list. He noted that the PPP will continue to work with GECOM

 

ONLY PARTY CONCERNED

Additionally, Deputy Chief Elections Officer (DECO) Mr. Vishnu Persaud, in a prior interview, confirmed that of the three parliamentary political parties, the People’s Progressive Party is the only party that has raised concerns with the Preliminary List of Electors.

“As at this time, I am not aware of other parties expressing concerns about the PLE,” he said.

 

The DCEO noted that it is within the right of any political party to express concerns pertaining to any aspect of GECOM’s work; and that, correspondingly, it is GECOM’s responsibility to respond appropriately.

Notwithstanding this position, he stressed that GECOM stands by the accuracy of the PLE, considering the names on the PLE were extracted from the accurate National Register of Registrants (NRR).

“The Guyana Elections Commission is convinced that every person on the National Register of Registrants, from which the names for the PLE are taken, is a bona fide registrant. Accordingly, we stand by the accuracy of the PLE,” Persaud said.

 

Persaud pointed out that, in the 2008 house-to-house registration, persons were registered at their homes with the participation of scrutineers from the governing and joint opposition political parties in Parliament. Thereafter, scrutineers were involved in the registration of persons in each consecutive cycle of Continuous Registration.

 

Further, he pointed out that each registration transaction goes through a series of checks before being accepted and committed to the National Register of Registrants.

 

Persaud said that if any political party is dissatisfied with the Official List of Electors to be produced after the Claims and Objections period is over, GECOM would be more than willing to address those concerns to the satisfaction of all concerned.

(By Vanessa Narine)

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“The Guyana Elections Commission is convinced that every person on the National Register of Registrants, from which the names for the PLE are taken, is a bona fide registrant. Accordingly, we stand by the accuracy of the PLE,” Persaud said.

 

Persaud pointed out that, in the 2008 house-to-house registration, persons were registered at their homes with the participation of scrutineers from the governing and joint opposition political parties in Parliament. Thereafter, scrutineers were involved in the registration of persons in each consecutive cycle of Continuous Registration

Mitwah
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

PPP is in control of GECOM's machinery any failures there is a direct failure of the PPP.

You're being impractical and you shouldn't be taken seriously.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Cobra, Dem KFC Boys in GECOM are the worst kind of Animals!!!!!!!!!!

It is the PPP who controlled GECOM with GOKUOL in 2011 and frig the list.  The other man now have to clean up Gocokul mess.

 

PPP always tiefing, even arthur chung vote they were planning to tief.

FM
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Cobra, Dem KFC Boys in GECOM are the worst kind of Animals!!!!!!!!!!

It is the PPP who controlled GECOM with GOKUOL in 2011 and frig the list.  The other man now have to clean up Gocokul mess.

 

PPP always tiefing, even arthur chung vote they were planning to tief.

You're also very impractical with your your responses. Don't make it a habit!

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Cobra, Dem KFC Boys in GECOM are the worst kind of Animals!!!!!!!!!!

It is the PPP who controlled GECOM with GOKUOL in 2011 and frig the list.  The other man now have to clean up Gocokul mess.

 

PPP always tiefing, even arthur chung vote they were planning to tief.

You're also very impractical with your your responses. Don't make it a habit!

Do you understand what is impractical snake/

 

it is the PPP that is impratical by not accepting that they are a minority and after the elections, they will be a smaller minority.

 

LOL

 

FM

You're acting on your emotion. In politics, you have to be realistic and NOT just what comes out of your mouth. If you want to sound off, you must be willing to provide proof.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

You're acting on your emotion. In politics, you have to be realistic and NOT just what comes out of your mouth. If you want to sound off, you must be willing to provide proof.

Bhai , You think dem shameless Snakeoil Salesmen care about proof.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Brian Teekah:
1345 respondents were polled.  
 
Question 1:
In your opinion, which political parties would you vote for in the next election?
 
PPP 35.1%;   APNU 29.4%;  AFC 24.3%;
 
JUSTICE FOR ALL - 2.6%;
 
BENSCHOP - 1.9% UNDECIDED 6.7%.
 
 
yujiyama will get diarhrea when he see these JULY results.
 
HOW CAN THE PPP RUN A COUNTRY ON 35%?
 
Mitwah
Originally Posted by Cobra:

The last time I check the PPP is still running the country. I don't think we have election yet, Mitwah.

You would have seen also that 51% did not give the mandate to run the country. If the PPP was so sure of a majority, a snap election would have come and gone. They are now so desperate, they are running around forming all kinds of alliances.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

The last time I check the PPP is still running the country. I don't think we have election yet, Mitwah.

You would have seen also that 51% did not give the mandate to run the country. If the PPP was so sure of a majority, a snap election would have come and gone. They are now so desperate, they are running around forming all kinds of alliances.

1. what you call running, I call strategy.

2. snap election is irreversible (politics)

3. what cause you to worry about PPP and their alliances?

4. all over GNI, everyone is confidence of a PPP defeat. (congratulation)

5. why worry, be happy!

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

The last time I check the PPP is still running the country. I don't think we have election yet, Mitwah.

Running what country? Thiefin from the country is more like it.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

The last time I check the PPP is still running the country. I don't think we have election yet, Mitwah.

You would have seen also that 51% did not give the mandate to run the country. If the PPP was so sure of a majority, a snap election would have come and gone. They are now so desperate, they are running around forming all kinds of alliances.

1. what you call running, I call strategy.

2. snap election is irreversible (politics)

3. what cause you to worry about PPP and their alliances?

4. all over GNI, everyone is confidence of a PPP defeat. (congratulation)

5. why worry, be happy!

The AFC have brought hope to the people. The power of one seat have exposed the PPP/C run on the treasury. Skeldon Factory, Berbice Bridge tolls, Rice Farmers not getting paid, Sugar workers having to fight for their pay checks...

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Unfortunately, they will not get up and leave. They will have to be voted out by the electorates. All your worries will be over by then.

I have no worries. Why worry, Be Happy.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Unfortunately, they will not get up and leave. They will have to be voted out by the electorates. All your worries will be over by then.

I have no worries. Why worry, Be Happy.

I see your boys has a meeting at Port Mourant on Saturday. AFC all the way, bro.    I might have to join them soon. 

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

PPP is in control of GECOM's machinery any failures there is a direct failure of the PPP.

You're being impractical and you shouldn't be taken seriously.


Funny thing that.  The PPP was in charge of elections in 2011 and his name was on the list.

 

Why is it only a problem NOW!

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

PPP is in control of GECOM's machinery any failures there is a direct failure of the PPP.

You're being impractical and you shouldn't be taken seriously.


Funny thing that.  The PPP was in charge of elections in 2011 and his name was on the list.

 

Why is it only a problem NOW!

GECOM is an independent agency responsible for election & registration accuracy. Pose that question to them directly.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

PPP is in control of GECOM's machinery any failures there is a direct failure of the PPP.

You're being impractical and you shouldn't be taken seriously.


Funny thing that.  The PPP was in charge of elections in 2011 and his name was on the list.

 

Why is it only a problem NOW!

GECOM is an independent agency responsible for election & registration accuracy. Pose that question to them directly.


Why didnt the PPP raise that problem in 2011?  Why only now that they no longer have monopolitics control as they are a minority gov't?

 

Answer: The PPP is terrified that they will do even worse this time, so are using every trick in the book to prevent any election from happening.

FM

Independent Agency? this is Guyana we are talking about.

 

This same independent agency created bottom house polling stations, stole a seat from the AFC in 2006 and i might add they stole again for the PPP in 2011. 

 

suh tek independence and stick it where de sun doan shine.

FM

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