Originally Posted by ksazma:
This is all your fault Chief. You asked the man to close his eyes and then went on to write all this stuff. Then when you were done you tell him to open back his eyes. He didn't see anything that you wrote. 
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Pavi Bhai, all Chief is stating is that State assets like the Leonora Estate, the New GPC and the Mirror Group of Companies were under-invoiced tremendously to buyers in transactions that lacked transparency. It's as simple as that; and these assertions by Chief are in the realm of prove-ability. He just has to show the evidence.
It happened in Russia when Socialism gave way to capitalism and you got overnight billionaires.
BaseBoard, this is above your comprehension and your fierce loyalty to the PPP betrays uneducated responses.
Cobra, references to Al Qaeda, while wild, bereft of relevance to the topic at hand, and just plain stupid, is a dangerous attempt to link Chief with that organization that Chief has clearly and unequivocally condemned for being sacrilegious to Islam.
In fact Cobra and BaseBoard could do the human race a favor and just read instead of attempting to use their keyboards.
Pavi, settle down for a moment, and do not let your love for the PPP take you down the path of blindly leading them over the cliff - you know like the TEA Party leading the Republicans over that cliff.
Chief employed a journalistic inference to insinuate something he could have put factually, but merely seek to jog your respective intellects - shallow as they may be.
Another jealous QC loser trying to stay relevant.
I do not, for a moment, expect BaseBoard to make a connection between his response and the explanation articulated in my piece. So, no seismic shift here....dumb as usual with that smirky W face for a handle.
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Pavi Bhai, all Chief is stating is that State assets like the Leonora Estate, the New GPC and the Mirror Group of Companies were under-invoiced tremendously to buyers in transactions that lacked transparency. It's as simple as that; and these assertions by Chief are in the realm of prove-ability. He just has to show the evidence.
It happened in Russia when Socialism gave way to capitalism and you got overnight billionaires.
BaseBoard, this is above your comprehension and your fierce loyalty to the PPP betrays uneducated responses.
Cobra, references to Al Qaeda, while wild, bereft of relevance to the topic at hand, and just plain stupid, is a dangerous attempt to link Chief with that organization that Chief has clearly and unequivocally condemned for being sacrilegious to Islam.
In fact Cobra and BaseBoard could do the human race a favor and just read instead of attempting to use their keyboards.
Pavi, settle down for a moment, and do not let your love for the PPP take you down the path of blindly leading them over the cliff - you know like the TEA Party leading the Republicans over that cliff.
Chief employed a journalistic inference to insinuate something he could have put factually, but merely seek to jog your respective intellects - shallow as they may be.
Kari, I understand that and also oppose the questionable Sales BUT to go and compare it to an American Mayor who is a dirtbag and was CONVICTED is childish and STUPID. So I hope you see my side too.
Nehru, you're right you can't compare the Detroit Mayor's woes with the assertions about former President Bharat Jagdeo made by Chief and others. The reasons are - (i) the scale (assertions surrounding Jagdeo are on a larger scale), and (ii) Jagdeo's alleged theft has not entered the arena of a court of law.
As much as I have roots in the PPP (today's PPP is another matter), you and I would like to not see the name of the former President being associated with a convicted American politician (the inference being that in America, politicians don't get away with criminal malfeasance). But Chief is using a technique to shake up the way Guyanese at home and in the diaspora think of corruption.
Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:
Talking about Baldeo, Ed and the rest what is the latest on them?
I think November is a crucial month for both Ed and Albert. I don't know about the "rest".
Ed's sentencing was put off for November, and I believe there were some "negotiations".
Albert's case was scheduled for November.
I'm open to correction on both the legal status and the timing regarding both Ed and Albert. Both cases may not be as dire as is popularly believed.
Former Member
Thanks for the update. John LIU people went to jail for campaign money problems so Baldeo has to be careful. Don't know much about Ed and his problems.
Former Member
Originally Posted by Chief:
Ex-Detroit mayor sentenced to 28 years in prison for corruption
By Mike Tobin
Published October 10, 2013FoxNews.com
May 25, 2010: In this file photo, former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick sits at his sentencing in Wayne County Circuit Court on an obstruction-of-justice conviction. Kilpatrick has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for corruption that turned city hall into a pay-to-play parlor.AP
Kwame Kilpatrick, the disgraced former mayor of Detroit, was sentenced Thursday to 28 years in prison for corruption following a series of scandals that showed he had unchecked power while in office.
Kilpatrickâs defense attorneys originally had argued that federal prosecutors were overreaching when they recommended he get 28 years â but Judge Nancy Edmunds handed down every minute of it.
"It was a tough sentence but it was a very large crime (and) the punishment met the crime," said U.S. Attorney Mark Chutkow.
Kilpatrick addressed the court before his sentencing, saying, "I'm incredibly remorseful." But he stopped short of admitting guilt.
"I respect the jury's verdict,â he said. âI think your honor knows I disagree with it."
This was a different Kilpatrick. Gone were the flamboyant suits, the earring and the demeanor of the politician once described as the âhip hop mayor.â
He wore prison clothes and spent a great deal of time with his eyes trained at the floor.
"I believe he was broken. I believe he is very sorry," said Norman Yatooma, an attorney who investigated the suspicious death of Tamara Green, a woman tangled in the wild stories around Kilpatrick. "Sorry because he got caught."
As for the former mayorâs purported contrition, Shawn McKinney, an alternate juror at the trial, said simply, "I don't believe it."
His pre-sentence statement stood in contrast to his lifestyle in office.
Kilpatrick spent $800,000 more than he earned. He billed his city credit card for trips to Las Vegas, and bought concert tickets and football tickets along with an $850.00 steak dinner. He leased two Lincoln Navigators for his wife with public money.
"Managing a city with no money is hard every single day," Kilpatrick told the court. "I can't stand here and say I didn't work my butt off. I did every single day."
Kilpatrick did not help the impending financial crush of Detroit. Federal prosecutors wrote in a 51-page, pre-sentence filing that the city "desperately needed resolute leadership. Instead it got a mayor looking to cash in his office through graft, extortion and self dealing."
SOON!
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:
Talking about Baldeo, Ed and the rest what is the latest on them?
I think November is a crucial month for both Ed and Albert. I don't know about the "rest".
Ed's sentencing was put off for November, and I believe there were some "negotiations".
Albert's case was scheduled for November.
I'm open to correction on both the legal status and the timing regarding both Ed and Albert. Both cases may not be as dire as is popularly believed.
ED STILL OUT.
Albert chilling in de lockup.
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