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For years, especially after World War 2, the US has interfered in the electoral process in many developing countries to tilt the election to a candidate who support their own interests. The Russians have done the same. But it is unusual for both countries to interfere in the election of their archenemy.

It is US and British intervention in Guyana that has led to the underdevelopment and the racial divisions in the country today. Imagine the outrage in Guyana then. The US also need to do some soul searching and reflect upon how much pain and suffering it has caused people around the world...all in the name of fighting communism. 

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The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

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seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

You are just a royal racist ass. First Obama is American as Trump. I dont see you referring to trump as from the outer Hebrides. Also, you are plainly ignorant of the facts. Trumps winning margin did not come from new voters but from defectors of the Obama block who switched sides. Tht you said he wasted 8 years is also a parroting of alt right bull crap.

FM
Danyael posted:
seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

You are just a royal racist ass. First Obama is American as Trump. I dont see you referring to trump as from the outer Hebrides. Also, you are plainly ignorant of the facts. Trumps winning margin did not come from new voters but from defectors of the Obama block who switched sides. Tht you said he wasted 8 years is also a parroting of alt right bull crap.

Trump's winning some Obama's blocks was due to a failure of Hillary to connect.  Nothing to do with the Russians.  It was her arrogance assuming because the voted Obama it will automatically be hers.  Even Blacks stayed at home knowing fully well that Trump could benefit.

The recent election is a great exercise in democracy and have proven that the US presidency is not for sale to political cronies.  Trump and Sanders have broken up the political feeder system and it will never be the same again.  Hillary was an artificial creation and the Democrats paid a high price. Yes, you do need money, but Bernie prove it could be done without one being a billionaire.

 

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ba$eman posted:

Trump's winning some Obama's blocks was due to a failure of Hillary to connect.  Nothing to do with the Russians.  It was her arrogance assuming because the voted Obama it will automatically be hers.  Even Blacks stayed at home knowing fully well that Trump could benefit.

The recent election is a great exercise in democracy and have proven that the US presidency is not for sale to political cronies.  Trump and Sanders have broken up the political feeder system and it will never be the same again.  Hillary was an artificial creation and the Democrats paid a high price. Yes, you do need money, but Bernie prove it could be done without one being a billionaire.

 

The drip drip drip of orchestrated leeks of stolen documents maintained a narrative for over six months that surely impacted the outcome. Trump won by tiny margins in critical states so surely he was not the well loved changed agent with a riveting message.

The recent election is an anamoly. It place a corrupt, racist and sexual predator in office with his close associates who are as despised in general as he is. Trump cannot be likened to sanders. Trump did not get the sanders demographics which was broad and deep. Trump culled his support on the basis of appealing to race, to a narrative of lies and to the con job of a consummate shyster.

The republicans who complained about deficit spending and who refused to pass an infrastructure bill on their desks for 8 years will willingly bend the knees now. But even that will not produce the desired results because the republican playbook has always been the same since regan and as he failed and bush failed, this horrible fellow will fail.

He has already began to treat government as corrupt dictators do, keep his family in the gravy train loop.

FM
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Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

Trump's winning some Obama's blocks was due to a failure of Hillary to connect.  Nothing to do with the Russians.  It was her arrogance assuming because the voted Obama it will automatically be hers.  Even Blacks stayed at home knowing fully well that Trump could benefit.

The recent election is a great exercise in democracy and have proven that the US presidency is not for sale to political cronies.  Trump and Sanders have broken up the political feeder system and it will never be the same again.  Hillary was an artificial creation and the Democrats paid a high price. Yes, you do need money, but Bernie prove it could be done without one being a billionaire.

 

The drip drip drip of orchestrated leeks of stolen documents maintained a narrative for over six months that surely impacted the outcome. Trump won by tiny margins in critical states so surely he was not the well loved changed agent with a riveting message.

The recent election is an anamoly. It place a corrupt, racist and sexual predator in office with his close associates who are as despised in general as he is. Trump cannot be likened to sanders. Trump did not get the sanders demographics which was broad and deep. Trump culled his support on the basis of appealing to race, to a narrative of lies and to the con job of a consummate shyster.

The republicans who complained about deficit spending and who refused to pass an infrastructure bill on their desks for 8 years will willingly bend the knees now. But even that will not produce the desired results because the republican playbook has always been the same since regan and as he failed and bush failed, this horrible fellow will fail.

He has already began to treat government as corrupt dictators do, keep his family in the gravy train loop.

You should look at "Messy Truth" and see what the motivation were!

FM
seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

Too bad after not voting for decades, they came out in droves to vote for racist reasons. Many of these people live in middle America where a trailer home is a HUGE accomplishment. They are also of the lesser educated. Unfortunately for them, being white and powerful will ring hallow when the economy is again plunged into recession again as it was 8 years ago.

FM
ksazma posted:
seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

Too bad after not voting for decades, they came out in droves to vote for racist reasons. Many of these people live in middle America where a trailer home is a HUGE accomplishment. They are also of the lesser educated. Unfortunately for them, being white and powerful will ring hallow when the economy is again plunged into recession again as it was 8 years ago.

The margins are tiny so they did not come out in droves. Indeed Mrs C could in retrospect go to many places but that is retrospect. 10 days to go and she had 10 percent and above lead. Comey reinforced the narrative of distrust so by the time she was cleared early voting did her in, Even with all the negatives she lost by less than 80k across 4 states

Dude, trickle down is  a well worked scam. Poor people never prospered under any version of supply side economics. The infrastructure  project will be a scheme of tax breaks and grants and giveaways with the poor getting little.

FM
ksazma posted:
seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

Too bad after not voting for decades, they came out in droves to vote for racist reasons. Many of these people live in middle America where a trailer home is a HUGE accomplishment. They are also of the lesser educated. Unfortunately for them, being white and powerful will ring hallow when the economy is again plunged into recession again as it was 8 years ago.

Well, they are the counter to Obama's welfare constituency!  What can anyone say!

FM
ksazma posted:
seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

Too bad after not voting for decades, they came out in droves to vote for racist reasons. Many of these people live in middle America where a trailer home is a HUGE accomplishment. They are also of the lesser educated. Unfortunately for them, being white and powerful will ring hallow when the economy is again plunged into recession again as it was 8 years ago.

They made it possibe for u 2 live in a mansion. Dey may still set u on fiah. Like u said, dey is ignorant. Education does not necessarily makes a person smart. 

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Danyael posted:
seignet posted:

The USA has made their efforts in denying Putin his Presidency. If Putin was involved, then he simply responded in kind. He denied Hillary her opportunity. That is if she had a chance. Trump has said, many of his supporters had never voted for decades and they were coming out to vote for him. Putin did not help him win the elections. White ppl were the silent majority.

Obama thinks he is dealing with Kenyan politics. This man tries so hard to be relevant after wasting 8 years. 

You are just a royal racist ass. First Obama is American as Trump. I dont see you referring to trump as from the outer Hebrides. Also, you are plainly ignorant of the facts. Trumps winning margin did not come from new voters but from defectors of the Obama block who switched sides. Tht you said he wasted 8 years is also a parroting of alt right bull crap.

U hate East Indians, that is enough qualifications for your racists opnions. 

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