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Public Works Ministry completes demolition of ‘illegal’ structures erected by BM Soat at Success
Public Works Ministry completes demolition of ‘illegal’ structures erected by BM Soat at Success
Photo shows a broken-down fence in the foreground while the excavator works to bring down the office of the auto sale company yesterday.

Public Works Ministry completes demolition of ‘illegal’ structures erected by BM Soat at Success

- As businessman refuses to give up gov’t reserve as per court order

PUBLIC Works Ministry workers using an excavator yesterday demolished a fence and two concrete structures that were alleged to have been illegally erected at the BM Soat Auto Sales show yard at Success, East Coast Demerara.

‘NO MORE ICE CREAM’: This structure housed an ice cream facility but since it was also situated on the government reserve, it had to be brought down

‘NO MORE ICE CREAM’: This structure housed an ice cream facility but since it was also situated on the government reserve, it had to be brought down

The demolition came three days after that ministry had signalled its intention to destroy the structures consequent upon the Government of Guyana, through the Works Ministry, winning judgement in the High Court in a matter involving ownership of a particular piece of land contended by the auto sales dealer, and the High Court specifically instructing the auto sales dealer to demolish the fence and all other objects or structures which sit on Government’s reserves and are preventing the Works Ministry from proceeding with its road expansion project.

Public Works officers supervise the excavator operator and he smashes the concrete and steel structures which have been positioned on the government reserve.

Public Works officers supervise the excavator operator and he smashes the concrete and steel structures which have been positioned on the government reserve.

The Works Ministry had moved last Tuesday to effect demolition of the impeding structures, including the fence; but the auto sales dealer had stymied the move by parking brand new vehicles in such a strategic way along the fence as to prevent the Works Ministry machinery from going into action.
Nevertheless, Works Ministry personnel, under direction of their senior operatives and accompanied by a heavy police presence, returned to the scene yesterday and began demolishing the fence and two structures — an ice cream parlour and an office — used by the auto sales dealer.
The directors and employees of the auto sales company were on hand to witness the demolition exercise, and several derogatory remarks were hurled at and about the Works Ministry, the incumbent minister and the Government of Guyana.
The son of the business owner related to the media that the family is in possession of a transport that awarded them the land which the ministry is now considering

Workers of the BM Soat Auto Sales and other persons look on as the ministry’s machinery demolishes the fence and office of the business at Success, ECD yesterday afternoon.

Workers of the BM Soat Auto Sales and other persons look on as the ministry’s machinery demolishes the fence and office of the business at Success, ECD yesterday afternoon.

Government’s reserve.
The man said that when Government re-designed the plan along the East Coast highway after coming up with the idea to have the road extended to a four-lane highway, that re-designed plan took in 14 feet of the auto company owner’s property, hence the contention and controversy.

One of the managers of the business speaks to the media yesterday

One of the managers of the business speaks to the media yesterday

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.
As to the family’s subsequent moves, the man said they will continue to fight the issue in the court, since they have transport for the land that the government is claiming as its reserve.

A portable AC Unit is carried from the building which is being demolished

A portable AC Unit is carried from the building which is being demolished

As the Works Ministry team moved to execute the court order yesterday, the auto dealer’s workers busied themselves in removing items from the structures which housed the sales office and an ice cream parlour.

(By Leroy Smith)

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It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

FM

young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.
As to the family’s subsequent moves, the man said they will continue to fight the issue in the court, since they have transport for the land that the government is claiming as its reserve.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

FM
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Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Mars
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Mars
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

FM



quote:
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.




In that case the demolition is illegal. If the Chief Works officer is not present, who authorized another ministerial official to oversee the demolition? And why was the chief works officer not present even though he was supposed to?

It all sounds like a big PPP scam to misappropriate land.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

quote:
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.


In that case the demolition is illegal. If the Chief Works officer is not present, who authorized another ministerial official to oversee the demolition? And why was the chief works officer not present even though he was supposed to?

It all sounds like a big PPP scam to misappropriate land.

Nah, the Chief Works" not being served and the "Chief Works" not present at the demolition are two different things.  I'm sure it will be sorted out in the coming days.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Who gives a flying **** what the PNC is accused of doing half a century ago? You have no evidence to support your claim in the first instance. But more importantly is the act that less than 10% of Guyanese were born 50 years ago to be able to know what the PNC is alleged to have done or not done. We are now in 2013 with a PPP regime that has been in power for 20 years. Using the excuse that decades ago someone else or another party did this or that is shyte excuse. The real issue is how people are being treated now, not 50 years ago. And even then, let us not forget that the PNC is a branch of the PPP. Even to this day the PNC members are being paid their salary by the PPP.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

ahmmmm, baseman . . . u must feel like a total ass now, eh? 

FM
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Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by baseman:

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Who gives a flying **** what the PNC is accused of doing half a century ago? You have no evidence to support your claim in the first instance. But more importantly is the act that less than 10% of Guyanese were born 50 years ago to be able to know what the PNC is alleged to have done or not done. We are now in 2013 with a PPP regime that has been in power for 20 years. Using the excuse that decades ago someone else or another party did this or that is shyte excuse. The real issue is how people are being treated now, not 50 years ago. And even then, let us not forget that the PNC is a branch of the PPP. Even to this day the PNC members are being paid their salary by the PPP.

What the PNC did was fully legal then and now.  What the PPP is doing today is fully legal then and now.  The Govt just have to follow due process and ensure fair and adequate compensation for legally owned property.  The Govt needs to expand the highway and eminent domain rules apply.  I think this is true in almost every nation.

 

In this instance, was the property legally owned or not, then it's a matter of compensation which could be sorted out afterwards anyway. No need to block the highway expansion.

 

All the other tripe you write is just that...tripe.

FM
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Originally Posted by baseman:

What the PNC did was fully legal then and now.  What the PPP is doing today is fully legal then and now.  The Govt just have to follow due process and ensure fair and adequate compensation for legally owned property.  The Govt needs to expand the highway and eminent domain rules apply.  I think this is true in almost every nation . . .

nice misdirection try ignar . . . but this has nothing to do with eminent domain

 

you're very 'disciplined' with your lies and half-truths . . . just like the PPP gangsters

FM
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Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

ahmmmm, baseman . . . u must feel like a total ass now, eh? 

Don't you wish.  You know the Govt is correct.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by baseman:

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Who gives a flying **** what the PNC is accused of doing half a century ago? You have no evidence to support your claim in the first instance. But more importantly is the act that less than 10% of Guyanese were born 50 years ago to be able to know what the PNC is alleged to have done or not done. We are now in 2013 with a PPP regime that has been in power for 20 years. Using the excuse that decades ago someone else or another party did this or that is shyte excuse. The real issue is how people are being treated now, not 50 years ago. And even then, let us not forget that the PNC is a branch of the PPP. Even to this day the PNC members are being paid their salary by the PPP.

What the PNC did was fully legal then and now.  What the PPP is doing today is fully legal then and now.  The Govt just have to follow due process and ensure fair and adequate compensation for legally owned property.  The Govt needs to expand the highway and eminent domain rules apply.  I think this is true in almost every nation.

 

In this instance, was the property legally owned or not, then it's a matter of compensation which could be sorted out afterwards anyway. No need to block the highway expansion.

 

All the other tripe you write is just that...tripe.

how about all compensation workout before

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by baseman:

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Who gives a flying **** what the PNC is accused of doing half a century ago? You have no evidence to support your claim in the first instance. But more importantly is the act that less than 10% of Guyanese were born 50 years ago to be able to know what the PNC is alleged to have done or not done. We are now in 2013 with a PPP regime that has been in power for 20 years. Using the excuse that decades ago someone else or another party did this or that is shyte excuse. The real issue is how people are being treated now, not 50 years ago. And even then, let us not forget that the PNC is a branch of the PPP. Even to this day the PNC members are being paid their salary by the PPP.

What the PNC did was fully legal then and now.  What the PPP is doing today is fully legal then and now.  The Govt just have to follow due process and ensure fair and adequate compensation for legally owned property.  The Govt needs to expand the highway and eminent domain rules apply.  I think this is true in almost every nation.

 

In this instance, was the property legally owned or not, then it's a matter of compensation which could be sorted out afterwards anyway. No need to block the highway expansion.

 

All the other tripe you write is just that...tripe.

how about all compensation workout before

Nah, then you delay the inevitable and the project.  If the court decides the property was legally owned, then compensation is in order, if not then the matter is closed.  The fact that the Govt could invoke eminent domain rules either way, then go ahead and work out the ownership dispute and value in due course.  Coming from the High Court seems to me the Govt was on very strong grounds.

FM
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It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

ahmmmm, baseman . . . u must feel like a total ass now, eh? 

Don't you wish.  You know the Govt is correct.

exposed dankey, u should know by now that empty sloganeering and deploying red herring doan work on me

 

address the foolishness u posted antiman!

FM
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It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

ahmmmm, baseman . . . u must feel like a total ass now, eh? 

Don't you wish.  You know the Govt is correct.

exposed dankey, u should know by now that empty sloganeering and deploying red herring doan work on me

 

address the foolishness u posted antiman!

As I said, you know the Govt is correct but you shame it don't go your way.  There is little that work you and your sound-byte posts.

FM
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The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Who gives a flying **** what the PNC is accused of doing half a century ago? You have no evidence to support your claim in the first instance. But more importantly is the act that less than 10% of Guyanese were born 50 years ago to be able to know what the PNC is alleged to have done or not done. We are now in 2013 with a PPP regime that has been in power for 20 years. Using the excuse that decades ago someone else or another party did this or that is shyte excuse. The real issue is how people are being treated now, not 50 years ago. And even then, let us not forget that the PNC is a branch of the PPP. Even to this day the PNC members are being paid their salary by the PPP.

What the PNC did was fully legal then and now.  What the PPP is doing today is fully legal then and now.  The Govt just have to follow due process and ensure fair and adequate compensation for legally owned property.  The Govt needs to expand the highway and eminent domain rules apply.  I think this is true in almost every nation.

 

In this instance, was the property legally owned or not, then it's a matter of compensation which could be sorted out afterwards anyway. No need to block the highway expansion.

 

All the other tripe you write is just that...tripe.

how about all compensation workout before

Nah, then you delay the inevitable and the project.  If the court decides the property was legally owned, then compensation is in order, if not then the matter is closed.  The fact that the Govt could invoke eminent domain rules either way, then go ahead and work out the ownership dispute and value in due course.  Coming from the High Court seems to me the Govt was on very strong grounds.

with the government losing votes every day its bad politics trying to be a bully and everybody know Bm soat is a big business man in guyana with a lot of influence   the ppp will lose some more votes now what the ppp should have done is sit with the man and work out a deal this government need to know you can negotiate  

FM
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It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

ahmmmm, baseman . . . u must feel like a total ass now, eh? 

Don't you wish.  You know the Govt is correct.

exposed dankey, u should know by now that empty sloganeering and deploying red herring doan work on me

 

address the foolishness u posted antiman!

As I said, you know the Govt is correct but you shame it don't go your way.  There is little that work you and your sound-byte posts.

u lie and filibuster with the guile of 14 year old retard

 

c'mon . . . tell us all about the gov't moving to demolish here under "eminent domain," and the absence of a 'staying' court order

 

doan forget to prance around as before with the certainty of the invincibly stupid and snarl of the 'powerful' wannabe PPP smartman

FM
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It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal but eminent domain rules were applied.

Why do you use your mouth like a kaka hole?. No wonder, you got that shitty batty smile.

Mmmm, could you refute my statement in a "somewhat intelligent" manner, or is this the "loser" response.

Do you read your shyte before you post? Why do you continue to use your mouth like a kaka hole?

 

This is what I posted, could you please refute:

It was a court order, due process was followed.  You guy are a bunch of crabs.  Chiefsta prefers slitting throats and shooting women as law and order.

 

The GoG under the PNC demolished many properties in the 1st phase of the four-lane highway.  These were not illegal [structures] but eminent domain rules were applied.

Soat also produced a court order which prohibited the government from demolishing their property. Their court order was obtained the very day that the demolition started but it was not honored.

Not according to this statement from the "young man" below.  They did not receive a "stay" from the court but presented a transport document.  The court must have look at all relevant documentation and issued the order.  They may file documents but unless the court issues a stay, the gov't is free to act on the court order.  They may file an appeal and if the court concludes the Govt acted in appropriately, they will need to terminate and reimburse for the property destroyed.

 

The young man said that when the Works Ministry won the judgement in the High Court, Government moved on Tuesday to demolish the fence; but after the family had been served with the court order, he presented the family’s transport to the court to prove that what the Government was claiming as its reserve was in fact property that had been transported to his father.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-bm-soat-properties/

 

Attorney-at-Law, Khemraj Ramjattan, who secured the order restricting the Ministry from destroying the property was on hand and sought to no avail to have the police or the ministry officials to respect that Order.
But he had not served it in keeping with the procedure. The writ should have been served on the Chief Works Officer who was not on hand for the service.
Among the police ranks that were on hand was the commander for the division Assistant Commissioner, Christopher Griffith, who was presented with the Court Order.
Shortly after a bit of deliberation, the Mohameds were told that the Ministry’s Court Order stands and that the workers must be allowed to proceed to destroy the property at which point in time the demolition of that building began.
Ramjattan told media operatives he did not understand how the Ministry officials could be allowed by the Police to proceed, saying that the Commander was in possession of the Conservatory Order secured by him for BM Soat.
According to Ramjattan, he secured the legal document about 13:30 hrs which would have been shortly after the Ministry officials would have begun destroying the fence.
This publication understands that the reason the officials were allowed to destroy the buildings was the fact that the Order had to be served to the Chief Works Officer.
He was nowhere to be seen and instead another Ministry official was supervising the workers.

Once again, they need to file an appeal and if the order is overturned, the Govt needs to terminate and mitigate.  Coming from the High Court, I have to assume, this case made it through the lower courts and the High Court was final.  Anyway, if there is further legal process, then they will need to file.

ahmmmm, baseman . . . u must feel like a total ass now, eh? 

Don't you wish.  You know the Govt is correct.

One thing that is correct is, you are an ass.

Mitwah

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