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The IMF thinks this small South American country will see economic growth of 86% next year

  • Guyana, a country of about 780,000 which shares a border with Brazil, Suriname and Venezuela in the northeast of South America, will see economic growth of 86% in 2020, according to the IMF.
  • The nation is poised to start oil production next month — a prospect which analysts believe will be transformative for economic prosperity in South America’s only English-speaking country.
  • It is going to be “very difficult for Guyana not to be completely subsumed by the oil sector,” Valerie Marcel, an associate fellow at think tank Chatham House, told CNBC via telephone on Monday.

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The International Monetary Fund (IMF) believes one of South America’s smallest countries is likely to see a dramatic upswing in economic growth next year.

Guyana, a country of about 780,000 which shares a border with Brazil, Suriname and Venezuela in the northeast of South America, will see economic growth of 86% in 2020, according to the IMF. That’s up from 4.4% in 2019.

Such an explosive expansion of annualized real GDP (gross domestic product) would likely see Guyana register the fastest economic growth in the world next year. To be sure, Guyana’s projected economic expansion would be 40 times that of what is expected from the U.S. — the world’s largest economy.

“The reason the IMF is projecting that is because Guyana has the highest amount of oil for each individual person of any country in the world,” Natalia Davies Hidalgo, a freelance Latin American analyst, told CNBC via telephone on Monday.

In comparison to OPEC kingpin Saudi Arabia, which has approximately 1,900 barrels of offshore reserves per person, Guyana has 3,900 barrels, Hidalgo said.

“And it could have more, as production hasn’t even started yet and new discoveries are still being made.

‘Ambitious’

Guyana is poised to start oil production next month — a prospect which analysts believe will be transformative for economic prosperity in South America’s only English-speaking country.

 

However, Hidalgo described the IMF’s projection as “ambitious,” noting it was probably the highest annual economic forecast the global crisis lender had ever predicted.

That’s because the country’s government is technically interim until elections are held in March, meaning it is currently unable to pass a budget for 2020.

The Guyanese haven’t had the experience with this type of windfall, and it is coming so suddenly.
Valerie Marcel
Associate fellow at Chatham House

 

In addition to a lack of regulatory legislation in the country, Hidalgo said the likelihood of project delays and non-payment in the infrastructure sector could also threaten the IMF’s forecast.

In comparison to the IMF’s prediction that Guyana will register economic growth of 86% next year, IHS Markit believes political instability in the country makes it much more likely the country’s economy will expand by about 30%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/0...percent-in-2020.html

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cain posted:

Oh Baseman that is such a wonderful article you posted, gives me a warm feeling in my heart, oh so wonderful.

I hope my TRUMP article mek you feel warm in the heart also!

FM
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ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

Django
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

It is a piss poor contract. Norway gets 12 percent of production and tax the rest at some 50 percent.  England has a similar deal. We get 2 percent on production sharing  ( real stupid since we have no capacity to refine and market crude) and forgo all taxes. We also assume 100 percent of exploration costs. We have not seen a dime and owe Exxon some 4 billion dollars. The government is yet to demand that wages of Guyanese performing any job at production facilities be on par with any other performing the same jobs. The company pay Guyanese at Guyanese rate presently. 

FM
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Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

It is a piss poor contract. Norway gets 12 percent of production and tax the rest at some 50 percent.  England has a similar deal. We get 2 percent on production sharing  ( real stupid since we have no capacity to refine and market crude) and forgo all taxes. We also assume 100 percent of exploration costs. We have not seen a dime and owe Exxon some 4 billion dollars. The government is yet to demand that wages of Guyanese performing any job at production facilities be on par with any other performing the same jobs. The company pay Guyanese at Guyanese rate presently. 

The deal is Guyana get 2% Royalty on production plus 12% profit oil , which is half of the 25 % production , 75% goes to investment recovery cost.There is timeline for investment recovery cost which should be declared. I agree the tax scheme should have been better.

Django
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Django posted:
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

It is a piss poor contract. Norway gets 12 percent of production and tax the rest at some 50 percent.  England has a similar deal. We get 2 percent on production sharing  ( real stupid since we have no capacity to refine and market crude) and forgo all taxes. We also assume 100 percent of exploration costs. We have not seen a dime and owe Exxon some 4 billion dollars. The government is yet to demand that wages of Guyanese performing any job at production facilities be on par with any other performing the same jobs. The company pay Guyanese at Guyanese rate presently. 

The deal is Guyana get 2% Royalty on production plus 12% profit oil , which is half of the 25 % production , 75% goes to investment recovery cost. I agree the tax scheme should have been better.

12 percent on profit is wishful thinking. Ask any musician who ever signed a 360 contract if they ever got  a dime...They actually went into bankruptcy. Oil is more predatory than music. Hardly any 5 percent of any oil contract is ever seen. Those are highly secretive documents and no one ever gets to learn the pitfalls.  There is an organization dedicated to contracts and they have some warnings. Use google and find them

FM
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

It is a piss poor contract. Norway gets 12 percent of production and tax the rest at some 50 percent.  England has a similar deal. We get 2 percent on production sharing  ( real stupid since we have no capacity to refine and market crude) and forgo all taxes. We also assume 100 percent of exploration costs. We have not seen a dime and owe Exxon some 4 billion dollars. The government is yet to demand that wages of Guyanese performing any job at production facilities be on par with any other performing the same jobs. The company pay Guyanese at Guyanese rate presently. 

The deal is Guyana get 2% Royalty on production plus 12% profit oil , which is half of the 25 % production , 75% goes to investment recovery cost. I agree the tax scheme should have been better.

12 percent on profit is wishful thinking. Ask any musician who ever signed a 360 contract if they ever got  a dime...They actually went into bankruptcy. Oil is more predatory than music. Hardly any 5 percent of any oil contract is ever seen. Those are highly secretive documents and no one ever gets to learn the pitfalls.  There is an organization dedicated to contracts and they have some warnings. Use google and find them

The figures given are stated in the Contract , how will Exxon back out from what stated ?

Django
I Django posted:
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

It is a piss poor contract. Norway gets 12 percent of production and tax the rest at some 50 percent.  England has a similar deal. We get 2 percent on production sharing  ( real stupid since we have no capacity to refine and market crude) and forgo all taxes. We also assume 100 percent of exploration costs. We have not seen a dime and owe Exxon some 4 billion dollars. The government is yet to demand that wages of Guyanese performing any job at production facilities be on par with any other performing the same jobs. The company pay Guyanese at Guyanese rate presently. 

The deal is Guyana get 2% Royalty on production plus 12% profit oil , which is half of the 25 % production , 75% goes to investment recovery cost. I agree the tax scheme should have been better.

12 percent on profit is wishful thinking. Ask any musician who ever signed a 360 contract if they ever got  a dime...They actually went into bankruptcy. Oil is more predatory than music. Hardly any 5 percent of any oil contract is ever seen. Those are highly secretive documents and no one ever gets to learn the pitfalls.  There is an organization dedicated to contracts and they have some warnings. Use google and find them

The figures given are stated in the Contract , how will Exxon back out from what stated ?

It is on profit. Hollywood accounting will ensure that is always at minimum. Cost will always be inflated and prerogatives to spend will always be accepted by the company. If the want a Christmas party...we pay. IF they want to pay an exec millions...we pay. If they want to donate to a charity for improvement to paper mache techniques, we pay. Why do you think OMAI never declared  a profit even if they took 2 billion oz out of our soil? If gold brought negative returns no one would be in it. 

FM
Ray posted:

How about external auditors?

costs will be legal and appropriate by the standards of doing this kind of business. ATN made millions as the end point of sex chat lines for the globe and we are still to get good telephone coverage!

FM
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Base, the IMF is unaware of the Gadaha and his band of incompetent IDIOTS. Dem people dat can Bruk Iron, no amount of money will help them to make Guyana Progressive. It is NOT in their DNA!!

Nehru
Stormborn posted:
I Django posted:
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
Stormborn posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the Coalition when signing the PSA, 98% of those 3900 BPP is headed away from Guyana. Prosperity for sure but not for Guyanese.

Banna read the contract , don't follow the doom and gloomer.

It is a piss poor contract. Norway gets 12 percent of production and tax the rest at some 50 percent.  England has a similar deal. We get 2 percent on production sharing  ( real stupid since we have no capacity to refine and market crude) and forgo all taxes. We also assume 100 percent of exploration costs. We have not seen a dime and owe Exxon some 4 billion dollars. The government is yet to demand that wages of Guyanese performing any job at production facilities be on par with any other performing the same jobs. The company pay Guyanese at Guyanese rate presently. 

The deal is Guyana get 2% Royalty on production plus 12% profit oil , which is half of the 25 % production , 75% goes to investment recovery cost. I agree the tax scheme should have been better.

12 percent on profit is wishful thinking. Ask any musician who ever signed a 360 contract if they ever got  a dime...They actually went into bankruptcy. Oil is more predatory than music. Hardly any 5 percent of any oil contract is ever seen. Those are highly secretive documents and no one ever gets to learn the pitfalls.  There is an organization dedicated to contracts and they have some warnings. Use google and find them

The figures given are stated in the Contract , how will Exxon back out from what stated ?

It is on profit. Hollywood accounting will ensure that is always at minimum. Cost will always be inflated and prerogatives to spend will always be accepted by the company. If the want a Christmas party...we pay. IF they want to pay an exec millions...we pay. If they want to donate to a charity for improvement to paper mache techniques, we pay. Why do you think OMAI never declared  a profit even if they took 2 billion oz out of our soil? If gold brought negative returns no one would be in it. 

I try telling Django that umpteen times. Me give up!  He head hard!!

FM
Nehru posted:

Dry Coconut head is what he is known by

700 acres of coconut plantation? That's a recipe for feeding their people. More like moon pass coconut head.

FM
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