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Published:  Trinidad Guardian
Sunday, December 11, 2016
by Kevin Baldeosingh

It seems to me that many of the people outside America who are reviling the electoral victory of Donald Trump are, in fact, secretly pleased that the ignorant billionaire is going to be the President of the United States. This is because Trump’s elevation to the highest office of the world’s most powerful nation has allowed these people to return to their comfortable narrative of racist imperialist America, which the presidency of Barack Obama hampered.

However, their easy assertions that Trump was elected by white racists reveals their own bigoted mindset, since the demographics of America make it impossible for white people only to elect a president, let alone white racists.

This fact gives no pause to the anti-American ideologues, who readily assert that all white people are, by definition, racist. Ironically, this claim is often supported by white-controlled institutions within the US itself. The University of Delaware in a 2007 document for students’ orientation, for example, defined a racist as “one who is both privileged and socialised on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (ie, people of European descent) living in the United States...” But, as the (black) economist Walter E Williams noted in an article titled Academic Cesspools, “This gem of wisdom suggests that by virtue of birth alone, not conduct, if you’re white, you’re a racist.”

One sometimes local SJW (social justice warrior) posted a similar jewel on her Facebook page after Trump’s victory: “Once we recognise that ‘White Power’ is nothing like Black Power, or PRIDE, or any other movement to empower a people, and we realise it is nothing more than the idea of advancing the white ‘race’ while keeping everyone else down, then we can move forward. This is tied up in the idea that white culture is inherently better...that all advancements come from white people...White supremacy isn’t just about skin colour, but about culture.”

This is standard diatribe from the SJW cohort, whose membership in our society consists mostly of academics and people who don’t have to actually work for a living. The incoherent polemic I have quoted conflates race and culture, even though white supremacists typically define race biologically and base their beliefs on racial superiority, whereas a culture is technically open for anyone to adopt. Moreover, the most successful non-Western nations are those which sought Western knowledge and adopted Western political ideals. The outstanding example of this is, of course, Japan, which managed to do so without losing Japanese culture.

The American economist and historian Thomas Sowell in his book The Quest for Cosmic Justice asserts: “Clearly, the question as to whether there have been large performance differences between peoples, as of a given time, is quite different from the question as to whether those differences are racial or genetic in origin. Even so, resistance to acknowledging superior performances has in recent times been fierce, determined, and ingenious, even if not always ingenuous.”

The crucial distinction here is between a moral assertion and an empirical one. Morally, every culture obviously has a right to exist; one might even go so far as to assert that, potentially, all cultures are equally capable of achieving happiness and prosperity for its members. Empirically, however, no one can seriously refute the assertion that “white culture”—more accurately, Western civilization—is by all significant measures historically superior to every past culture, civilization or society on Earth. Note that this is completely different from the claim that white people are superior. It was Western civilization which gave the world democracy, capitalism, and science. And ironically, without those concepts, those who badtalk white people and the West wouldn’t even have the vocabulary to express their criticisms or, indeed, the free speech right to do so.

It is also possible to make a moral comparison between cultures, without impugning the fundamental moral worth of non-Western cultures. It is simple historical fact that Britain was the first society in the history of the world to declare that slavery was morally wrong and to take action to eradicate it; it was Western societies which first bruited the argument for women’s equality and changed their laws to ensure it; it is Western nations which led the way in rights for animals, the disabled and, ironically enough, other cultures.

While it is true that Western nations have often failed to live up to their ideals, it is specious to argue that such failures make the West morally inferior to societies which didn’t even have such ideals in the first place. Moreover, white people have not been inherently more violent or oppressive than non-white peoples—it is only that the technological superiority of the West allowed power to corrupt to an extent not possible in previous eras.

Even so, the world is largely better off because of the Industrial Revolution and the political ideals which have been spread by the West. And, despite the anti-West rhetoric from elitists who are prime beneficiaries of those ideals, it is the Western nations’ levels of prosperity and freedom that most of the world’s peoples aspire to attain.

Kevin Baldeosingh is a professional writer, author of three novels, and co-author of a History textbook.

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randolph posted:
Published:  Trinidad Guardian
Sunday, December 11, 2016
by Kevin Baldeosingh

It seems to me that many of the people outside America who are reviling the electoral victory of Donald Trump are, in fact, secretly pleased that the ignorant billionaire is going to be the President of the United States. This is because Trump’s elevation to the highest office of the world’s most powerful nation has allowed these people to return to their comfortable narrative of racist imperialist America, which the presidency of Barack Obama hampered.

However, their easy assertions that Trump was elected by white racists reveals their own bigoted mindset, since the demographics of America make it impossible for white people only to elect a president, let alone white racists.

This fact gives no pause to the anti-American ideologues, who readily assert that all white people are, by definition, racist. Ironically, this claim is often supported by white-controlled institutions within the US itself. The University of Delaware in a 2007 document for students’ orientation, for example, defined a racist as “one who is both privileged and socialised on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (ie, people of European descent) living in the United States...” But, as the (black) economist Walter E Williams noted in an article titled Academic Cesspools, “This gem of wisdom suggests that by virtue of birth alone, not conduct, if you’re white, you’re a racist.”

One sometimes local SJW (social justice warrior) posted a similar jewel on her Facebook page after Trump’s victory: “Once we recognise that ‘White Power’ is nothing like Black Power, or PRIDE, or any other movement to empower a people, and we realise it is nothing more than the idea of advancing the white ‘race’ while keeping everyone else down, then we can move forward. This is tied up in the idea that white culture is inherently better...that all advancements come from white people...White supremacy isn’t just about skin colour, but about culture.”

This is standard diatribe from the SJW cohort, whose membership in our society consists mostly of academics and people who don’t have to actually work for a living. The incoherent polemic I have quoted conflates race and culture, even though white supremacists typically define race biologically and base their beliefs on racial superiority, whereas a culture is technically open for anyone to adopt. Moreover, the most successful non-Western nations are those which sought Western knowledge and adopted Western political ideals. The outstanding example of this is, of course, Japan, which managed to do so without losing Japanese culture.

The American economist and historian Thomas Sowell in his book The Quest for Cosmic Justice asserts: “Clearly, the question as to whether there have been large performance differences between peoples, as of a given time, is quite different from the question as to whether those differences are racial or genetic in origin. Even so, resistance to acknowledging superior performances has in recent times been fierce, determined, and ingenious, even if not always ingenuous.”

The crucial distinction here is between a moral assertion and an empirical one. Morally, every culture obviously has a right to exist; one might even go so far as to assert that, potentially, all cultures are equally capable of achieving happiness and prosperity for its members. Empirically, however, no one can seriously refute the assertion that “white culture”—more accurately, Western civilization—is by all significant measures historically superior to every past culture, civilization or society on Earth. Note that this is completely different from the claim that white people are superior. It was Western civilization which gave the world democracy, capitalism, and science. And ironically, without those concepts, those who badtalk white people and the West wouldn’t even have the vocabulary to express their criticisms or, indeed, the free speech right to do so.

It is also possible to make a moral comparison between cultures, without impugning the fundamental moral worth of non-Western cultures. It is simple historical fact that Britain was the first society in the history of the world to declare that slavery was morally wrong and to take action to eradicate it; it was Western societies which first bruited the argument for women’s equality and changed their laws to ensure it; it is Western nations which led the way in rights for animals, the disabled and, ironically enough, other cultures.

While it is true that Western nations have often failed to live up to their ideals, it is specious to argue that such failures make the West morally inferior to societies which didn’t even have such ideals in the first place. Moreover, white people have not been inherently more violent or oppressive than non-white peoples—it is only that the technological superiority of the West allowed power to corrupt to an extent not possible in previous eras.

Even so, the world is largely better off because of the Industrial Revolution and the political ideals which have been spread by the West. And, despite the anti-West rhetoric from elitists who are prime beneficiaries of those ideals, it is the Western nations’ levels of prosperity and freedom that most of the world’s peoples aspire to attain.

Kevin Baldeosingh is a professional writer, author of three novels, and co-author of a History textbook.

this man is clearly misinformed. Western culture is not white culture. There world for example, did not know the name of an Englishman until the fifth century. We know names of the renown of other cultures going back eons before that.

Western Civilization is a fusion from India to Asia, to Africa ( especially north Africans) to Europeans. Note they came late to the the party as one can date the flowering of western civilization in these regions along the borders  of the roman empire and its influence.

FM

He is not only misinformed , he is of the mindset of the Indians from India who are openly worshipping Mr. Trump.

Right here on GNI , Yugi did not skip a beat but right after the elections start addressing Mr. Trump as Mahatma.

Soon these idiots will start saying Bapuji or father. 

Chief

Most of what Mr Baldeosingh is stating are facts.  However, he is also making many mistakes. The west did not invent Science. China and India were very much in the development of Science. The idea that one Culture is superior to others are for ILLITERATE  people to  make such conclusion.

 

I would ask him why so many Westerners are running to Yoga and Eastern Spirituals.

 

Mr Baldeosing is quite illiterate with regards to American Politics. The Rep has a 42% steady support, the Dem has a 42 % steady support. The other 16% are usually non committing Whites. The winner of an American Election is therefore determined by this group of 16%.

Nehru
Nehru posted:

Most of what Mr Baldeosingh is stating are facts.  However, he is also making many mistakes. The west did not invent Science. China and India were very much in the development of Science. The idea that one Culture is superior to others are for ILLITERATE  people to  make such conclusion.

 

I would ask him why so many Westerners are running to Yoga and Eastern Spirituals.

 

Mr Baldeosing is quite illiterate with regards to American Politics. The Rep has a 42% steady support, the Dem has a 42 % steady support. The other 16% are usually non committing Whites. The winner of an American Election is therefore determined by this group of 16%.

The West can be credited for developing and make Science a reality.

Django

The problem here is when the shallow and the ill prepared makes grandiose pronouncements that reduces the accomplishments of the rest of the world to nothing as this fellow has because  he follow the well honed prescriptions that contribute to the rest of us as the white mans burden, the subaltern backward "others".

The panchyiat is a form of democracy. Indian nations and African tribes had their own system of heiarchy and selection criteria that at times mirror a democracy as we wee expressed in the city state of Athens. The american tribes had a form of confederacy that is the step child of modern federalism. Not because we use a label that came from the vocabulary of the west means the ideas being labeled owe their emergence in the culture that named it. What is strongly western is a contribution of peoples from everywhere.

FM
Prashad posted:

Obama did nothing for blacks. 

So why are whites so angry with him? Hearing the screams one would think that all the Fortune 500 CEOs were black men.    So they have to "take back America again".

Come to think of it Jagdeo screams the same thing, except he means Indians.

FM

It is a fact that Hillary lost because her messaging was poor, and she failed to control the media.

It is also a fact that white racists are all giddily happy that Trump won. True most of those who voted for him aren't racists but then we can ponder as to why they aren't disturbed that so many white supremacists seem to think that it is now open season on bigotry.

Note Sessions' implication that Dominican immigrants are losers because they don't bring high tech skills. Bet he wouldn't say that about Polish or Irish immigrants who aren't high skilled people either.

BTW Sessions could also make the same comments about Guyanese Indians who bring the same skill sets as do Dominicans, yet the Indo KKK kiss Trump's anal orifice and call him God.

FM

The planet from since its creation is sustained by winds, so said the Ancients and Ancient writer. And this was long before the Greeks and Indians. They considered the winds be to solar, gravity, and other types.

Today, the Whites have been delving into ancient interpretations and have indentified their concept winds. Newton with gravity, Maxwell with electrical wave theories, Einstein with his interpretation of energy wich is also a form of wind. In the sixteenth century Whites began their assent into the field of science. And one identification of a natural phenominon added to many more natural order of the cosmos. By the eighteenth century, several South Indians upon reviewing the scientific works of the White world, challenged some explanations and some further added and built upon Western ideas.

The White world for 500 years sat in the dark ages, even though they had the incubator for knowledge. The Italians were the first to expand on the ancient knowledge. In the tweveth century, the Crusaders returned to Europe from the Mid-East with written works, plant medicine, food products and many other items. However, it individually kept until a library was created in France and England.

During the time of Alexander the Great he had a fascination about natural order. And he had manuscripts prepared of his observations on the places he conquered.

The Mid-Eastern Muslims did the same sort of thing. And they were celebrated for their libraries. That is until until the Whites unfamiliar with written works set ablaze many of the libraries. Some crusaders, out facination did preserve some books and returned to Europe with it.

However, the mother of all knowledge was assembled by the General of Alexander who accquired Eygpt-the Ptolmeys. The Library of Alexandria to this day exist from the time of Alexander the Great. The Ptlomeys had decreed, that any ship entering their port be searched for unique knowledge/apparatus. Such devices and knowledge was copied and archived in the Library of Alexandria.

Knowledge is a continuum, there is no ownership to it. Like a Genius, he or she just belong.

In all things there is The Christ, whom the Almighty God declared that all thing were made for Him as the Elect One observed all the branches of scienes unfolding on the creation of ALL LIFE as the Father enounciate the Word and all the angels in trumpet sounding voies declared "Halellujah.". 

S
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

FM
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seignet posted:

The planet from since its creation is sustained by winds, so said the Ancients and Ancient writer. And this was long before the Greeks and Indians. They considered the winds be to solar, gravity, and other types.

Today, the Whites have been delving into ancient interpretations and have indentified their concept winds. Newton with gravity, Maxwell with electrical wave theories, Einstein with his interpretation of energy wich is also a form of wind. In the sixteenth century Whites began their assent into the field of science. And one identification of a natural phenominon added to many more natural order of the cosmos. By the eighteenth century, several South Indians upon reviewing the scientific works of the White world, challenged some explanations and some further added and built upon Western ideas.

The White world for 500 years sat in the dark ages, even though they had the incubator for knowledge. The Italians were the first to expand on the ancient knowledge. In the tweveth century, the Crusaders returned to Europe from the Mid-East with written works, plant medicine, food products and many other items. However, it individually kept until a library was created in France and England.

During the time of Alexander the Great he had a fascination about natural order. And he had manuscripts prepared of his observations on the places he conquered.

The Mid-Eastern Muslims did the same sort of thing. And they were celebrated for their libraries. That is until until the Whites unfamiliar with written works set ablaze many of the libraries. Some crusaders, out facination did preserve some books and returned to Europe with it.

However, the mother of all knowledge was assembled by the General of Alexander who accquired Eygpt-the Ptolmeys. The Library of Alexandria to this day exist from the time of Alexander the Great. The Ptlomeys had decreed, that any ship entering their port be searched for unique knowledge/apparatus. Such devices and knowledge was copied and archived in the Library of Alexandria.

Knowledge is a continuum, there is no ownership to it. Like a Genius, he or she just belong.

In all things there is The Christ, whom the Almighty God declared that all thing were made for Him as the Elect One observed all the branches of scienes unfolding on the creation of ALL LIFE as the Father enounciate the Word and all the angels in trumpet sounding voies declared "Halellujah.". 

You are confused. Winds are movements of  gas molecules under pressure differentials. Forces which is the term used to define what holds the universe together are existent under specific conditions as specific particle exchange and can fuse together under conditions of extreme temperature and pressure. The solar wind and gravity are not in the same realm. One is charge particles being expelled at high speeds and the other is a warp in the space time fabric. The ancients did not know what the modern forces in physics were and had no idea of a gas as particles in kinetic motion so their understanding of wind was completely alien.

Newton's understanding of gravity is not the same as we understand gravity to be in the Einstein universe. He uses force in and almost metaphysical sense as an "attraction between" their centers of mass and measurable as the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their center of masses. Einstein saw it as I noted above, as a degree in which space/time is warped.

Alexander was a student of Aristotle and the Aristotelian universe is indeed "natural" as he saw it ie everything likes being with its own and according to kind ( given he believed nature abhors a vacuum) and by reduction there are only four essences making up everything, air fire, water earth. He was as wrong as wrong can be and is  the reason science was stagnated for some two thousand years.

If you care to read Thomas Kuhn's seminal book, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions you will grasp that there is no continuum in our understanding. New ideas repudiate the old and replaces them in perpetual intellectual and even physical struggles. Science does not build on old foundations but exist as a force that destroys it foundations and build new one. The axiom that science is the process of falsification of theory illustrates that.

As for god...that is your craving for a creation myth and not about reality.

 

FM
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

Mahatma Burnham and Mahatma Hoyte Persaud.

Chief
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

 If the two of you cannot add to what is being discussed, I suggest you blow each other

cain
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yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

FM
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

HAHA This RACIST DAAG talkin about being racist. Is there no SHAME in you??  Are you a Beast of the WORST kind??????

Nehru
Nehru posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

HAHA This RACIST DAAG talkin about being racist. Is there no SHAME in you??  Are you a Beast of the WORST kind??????

Seriously Nehru if you don't consider this to be racist I cannot help you. Now I consider you to be a PPP fraud, but I didn't think you were an Indo KKK. But why the shock given that the PPP is the Indo KKK with Jagdeo at its helm as the Grand Wizard.

FM
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

Dan-Yell was exposed-he yelled to many times. And now, he is sick of himself. You and he contributes to the hate on this Site. Intelligence never swayed you chaps from grovelling in the cess pool of hate for Hindu East Indians. Failure of progressive discussions to move the country from its current state of malaise. 

S
caribny posted:
Nehru posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

HAHA This RACIST DAAG talkin about being racist. Is there no SHAME in you??  Are you a Beast of the WORST kind??????

Seriously Nehru if you don't consider this to be racist I cannot help you. Now I consider you to be a PPP fraud, but I didn't think you were an Indo KKK. But why the shock given that the PPP is the Indo KKK with Jagdeo at its helm as the Grand Wizard.

Do you ever read what you write?? And if you do, why dont you understand what you write?? Lack of education? Was drop on your head at birth??? All of the above???  YOu dont have to go far, this very thread is sufficient.

Nehru
seignet posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

Dan-Yell was exposed-he yelled to many times. And now, he is sick of himself. You and he contributes to the hate on this Site. Intelligence never swayed you chaps from grovelling in the cess pool of hate for Hindu East Indians. Failure of progressive discussions to move the country from its current state of malaise. 

Dude, you came here as a separatist. You posted a detailed platform here of your indian only movement and over the years stated more than once you belief that black people are genetic deficient. Now do not yell about being exposed or racism since that is your forte.

I have two wonderful indian daughters so hating them or their mom not to mention my entire clan would be stupid. Do not project your ignorance on me. I also doubt the nonsense as I deconstructed above from you is intelligent or progressive discussion. It explains why at over seventy years old you are still a racist. You just never got any proper instruction as to what is real or not.

FM
seignet posted:
.You and he contributes to the hate on this Site.. 

Really. So why is this site known as being an anti black site, driving away almost all of the blacks who used to post here?

The response about danyael and I is queries about our sanity for wasting so much time arguing with racists like you who scream blacks are violent criminals and are lazy and useless.

Yes you who wanted to curse Guyanese blacks with unending hardship and poverty.  And the fact that you were allowed to do so drive away Itaname, one of the last blacks who regularly posted on this site.

FM
Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:
 

And GNI continues to be a hate site. .

The hate oozes from every pore of your body. You need help. Seek it.

Define what makes me more racist than skeldon man and the rest of his clan.

The fact that I suggest to you that those who walk around smelling of stale curry aren't winning themselves popularity contests?

Seriously guy, no one wants to smell on you what you eat on a daily basis.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Carib Goes around smelling like Ackee and Saltfish and he thinks that it is a replacement of men's cologne. 

How about smelling like chitlins? If he is associating coolies with smelling curry, then he should be associated with smelling like chitlins.

FM
caribny posted:
 

Seriously guy, no one wants to smell on you what you eat on a daily basis.

Look in the mirror. You are a descendant of canibals. You smell like carcass. You have contributed more than all of the posters here to make this site look like a hate site. You are nothing but a worthless piece of black shit. Speak to the man in the mirror before you respond. You crossed the boundaries when you attack my culture.

Mitwah
Danyael posted:
seignet posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

Dan-Yell was exposed-he yelled to many times. And now, he is sick of himself. You and he contributes to the hate on this Site. Intelligence never swayed you chaps from grovelling in the cess pool of hate for Hindu East Indians. Failure of progressive discussions to move the country from its current state of malaise. 

Dude, you came here as a separatist. You posted a detailed platform here of your indian only movement and over the years stated more than once you belief that black people are genetic deficient. Now do not yell about being exposed or racism since that is your forte.

I have two wonderful indian daughters so hating them or their mom not to mention my entire clan would be stupid. Do not project your ignorance on me. I also doubt the nonsense as I deconstructed above from you is intelligent or progressive discussion. It explains why at over seventy years old you are still a racist. You just never got any proper instruction as to what is real or not.

Perhaps you have another 25  more years to peddle ur hate for Hindu East Indians. Just a year ago you published your piece on Hindu East Indians-clear in the minds of those who read ur piece.

S
caribny posted:
seignet posted:
.You and he contributes to the hate on this Site.. 

Really. So why is this site known as being an anti black site, driving away almost all of the blacks who used to post here?

The response about danyael and I is queries about our sanity for wasting so much time arguing with racists like you who scream blacks are violent criminals and are lazy and useless.

Yes you who wanted to curse Guyanese blacks with unending hardship and poverty.  And the fact that you were allowed to do so drive away Itaname, one of the last blacks who regularly posted on this site.

Let me be specific, even some Black people want to know where Guyanese Blacks comes from in Africa. There are none like them anywhere, on this planet. You and D2 are so lobsided in perceptions, you all cannot be anything else than racists. And so, alyuh construct a racist opinion on everything. Even Donald Trump you idiots painted in a demeaning fashion. Two fools who failed to see what is inevitable in alyuh own backyard. And the only opinion you morons have, is that Guyana have racist Hindu East Indians. So also, is Trump supporter, racist.

You two fools see your central thought process. Racism.

Black people razz killed Indian people. And must seek forgiveness for the crimes they committed. I do not have to place a curse on them. They curse themselves by giving support to a man who made Obeah a law in Guyana. Demonic jesture are not rewarded with milk and honey. The reward for the devil's advocate is hardship and poverty. Granger can steal the whole treasury and give it to the Bruddahs and nothing will grow for it. It is like water slipping through your fingers. Forbes gave alyuh everything and yet alyuh gat nothing to show for it. The Hindus faced the same hardships yet they rose in stature. And you two fools cursing them every day how bad they are and are racist.

What fools you guys are.

Follow D2 and just get lost on1-1-17. Atleast alyuh tripe will not be seen on this BB. Spare us ur rantings of hate. 

Hate is a sickness that makes people sad.

Caribj and D2 are two sad cases. 

S
seignet posted:
Danyael posted:
seignet posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

And GNI continues to be a hate site. No wonder Danyael wants to leave.

Dan-Yell was exposed-he yelled to many times. And now, he is sick of himself. You and he contributes to the hate on this Site. Intelligence never swayed you chaps from grovelling in the cess pool of hate for Hindu East Indians. Failure of progressive discussions to move the country from its current state of malaise. 

Dude, you came here as a separatist. You posted a detailed platform here of your indian only movement and over the years stated more than once you belief that black people are genetic deficient. Now do not yell about being exposed or racism since that is your forte.

I have two wonderful indian daughters so hating them or their mom not to mention my entire clan would be stupid. Do not project your ignorance on me. I also doubt the nonsense as I deconstructed above from you is intelligent or progressive discussion. It explains why at over seventy years old you are still a racist. You just never got any proper instruction as to what is real or not.

Perhaps you have another 25  more years to peddle ur hate for Hindu East Indians. Just a year ago you published your piece on Hindu East Indians-clear in the minds of those who read ur piece.

Cyar you old ***** da side!!!wicked nasty devious, libelous ,old farts like you just waste time. Worse, you surely have the nerve to call others racist when you dedicate your posting here to malign black people. I can point to a hundred instances where you expressed your belief that black people are inherently stupid.  Your old lying behind cannot  point out one anti hindu post I made anywhere.

I know what I said. I made a factual claim about most indians in Guyana and not about Hinduism. You are supporting evidence of that finding. The thread is still here so you can pull it up.

FM
seignet posted:
caribny posted:
seignet posted:
.You and he contributes to the hate on this Site.. 

Really. So why is this site known as being an anti black site, driving away almost all of the blacks who used to post here?

The response about danyael and I is queries about our sanity for wasting so much time arguing with racists like you who scream blacks are violent criminals and are lazy and useless.

Yes you who wanted to curse Guyanese blacks with unending hardship and poverty.  And the fact that you were allowed to do so drive away Itaname, one of the last blacks who regularly posted on this site.

Let me be specific, even some Black people want to know where Guyanese Blacks comes from in Africa. There are none like them anywhere, on this planet. You and D2 are so lobsided in perceptions, you all cannot be anything else than racists. And so, alyuh construct a racist opinion on everything. Even Donald Trump you idiots painted in a demeaning fashion. Two fools who failed to see what is inevitable in alyuh own backyard. And the only opinion you morons have, is that Guyana have racist Hindu East Indians. So also, is Trump supporter, racist.

You two fools see your central thought process. Racism.

Black people razz killed Indian people. And must seek forgiveness for the crimes they committed. I do not have to place a curse on them. They curse themselves by giving support to a man who made Obeah a law in Guyana. Demonic jesture are not rewarded with milk and honey. The reward for the devil's advocate is hardship and poverty. Granger can steal the whole treasury and give it to the Bruddahs and nothing will grow for it. It is like water slipping through your fingers. Forbes gave alyuh everything and yet alyuh gat nothing to show for it. The Hindus faced the same hardships yet they rose in stature. And you two fools cursing them every day how bad they are and are racist.

What fools you guys are.

Follow D2 and just get lost on1-1-17. Atleast alyuh tripe will not be seen on this BB. Spare us ur rantings of hate. 

Hate is a sickness that makes people sad.

Caribj and D2 are two sad cases. 

Just for that I will ask Amral to keep my danyael alias open...so malignant old c..unt cannot lie your ass off and get away with it.

Just to humiliate your pathetic old ass I will go and dig up your old racist pamphlet you posted here as your party platform to create an indian only state. you are a pathetic old piss.

The above is fertile soil twith many paths to deconstruct your malignant racist mind. I will only examine one.  What the hell you have against Obeah? Is Kali worship much different? No one had to make Obeah legal. Religions are by law permitted. If you hate obeah what would you think of makonaima traditions of some native group? Note obeah is far beyond the piffle you believe as casting spells etc.

Is obeah any different from animism except the ignorant racist conclusion  that it is worthless crap is  held by mainly ignorant country baboos. Obeah and its off shoot in santaria, candomple, umbanda, voodoo  all have legitimate place despite your angst against such alien worship.

I suggest you read, get informed, and give regard to the faith of others. There are over a hundred million  people in the west alone who follow these so called roots faith. Additionally, Yoruba idea about creation and god is quite sound. If you give legitimacy to Freud then read about it and get educated. 

FM
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cain posted:
yuji22 posted:
Nehru posted:

And the Afro Guyanese bring Choke and Rob, Mo Fiah Slo Fiah, Kick Down Door, Pick Pocket and other technical skills.  No wonder America awarded them with their highest Awards!!!!

Please do not forget they gave Guyana two Afro Dictators and Riggers, Burnham and Hoyte.

 If the two of you cannot add to what is being discussed, I suggest you blow each other

Nice one Cain!

Chief
yuji22 posted:

Carib Goes around smelling like Ackee and Saltfish and he thinks that it is a replacement of men's cologne. 

skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Carib Goes around smelling like Ackee and Saltfish and he thinks that it is a replacement of men's cologne. 

How about smelling like chitlins? If he is associating coolies with smelling curry, then he should be associated with smelling like chitlins.

Yes thanks for making my point.

NO ONE eats salt fish every day and I have never seen people eating chitlins and I mix extensively with black Americans.

The smell gets offensive when excessively when consumed so much to the point where a house smells like salt fish or rotten pig trotters.

So take this advice and diversify your diet.. Cooking curry every day doesn't win you friends. Aside from the fact that its boring and just shows how narrow minded you are.

FM
Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:
 

Seriously guy, no one wants to smell on you what you eat on a daily basis.

Look in the mirror. You are a descendant of canibals..

OK Mitwah you are a certified member of the Indo KKK. It just goes to show that one doesn't have to be a PPP to be an Indo KKK.

FM
seignet posted:
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Let me be specific, even some Black people want to know where Guyanese Blacks comes from in Africa..

Maybe I should put a curse on you for condoning the killing of almost 30 people on the Son Chapman and for peddling the lie that Indians weren't involved.

In the 60s Indians killed blacks and blacks killed Indians. How come you REFUSE to admit that Indians were also killers?

 

The dominant notion of Guyanese blacks is that they are a docile bunch who don't know how to fight for their rights.

Other Caribbean blacks want to know  how come they allowed Jagdeo to reduce them to 3rd class citizen status with scarcely a murmur, instead fleeing to live in Antigua.  On visits to Guyana when it was under PPP rule they were appalled at the state of blacks in Guyana, made to feel as if there were foreigners in their own country.

FM
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caribny posted:
Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:
 

Seriously guy, no one wants to smell on you what you eat on a daily basis.

Look in the mirror. You are a descendant of canibals..

OK Mitwah you are a certified member of the Indo KKK. It just goes to show that one doesn't have to be a PPP to be an Indo KKK.

You racist SOB. Do you know who is your daddy. Do not f u c k with my culture.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
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OK Mitwah you are a certified member of the Indo KKK. It just goes to show that one doesn't have to be a PPP to be an Indo KKK.

You racist SOB. Do you know who is your daddy. Do not f u c k with my culture.

And you dig yourself even more into this Indo KKK hole.

If your house smells like curry you neighbors don't like you.  No more than if your house smells like fish.

FM

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