BTW, I don't blame this loss on racism...

Dems did not pay attention to working class people and their suffering...these same people who voted for Trump, voted for Obama in 2008

RiffRaff posted:

BTW, I don't blame this loss on racism...

Dems did not pay attention to working class people and their suffering...these same people who voted for Trump, voted for Obama in 2008

I think the Jew made Donald Trump win and this was racism

ILLUMINATI: Transient control of Jew

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

Agreed. Much more could have been accomplished if the Republicans worked with Obama to make life better for all Americans.

Had Hillary won, Trump would have said it was rigged and called for recounts and god knows what so it is only right Hillary do the same. Have the FBI go through the votes, see if anything was tampered with...especially from an outside force such as Russia.

I don't ever remember after an election., people gathering to picket the new President but then again, there was no need to, everything was done with some form of decency,except this time around.

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

I think Trump decided to run after President Obama made fun of him at one of the press core dinner. He must have taken the jokes personally because he was clearly upset. 

In any case, the Democrats have themselves to blame, and Hillary for losing the election. If we accept it was a free and fair election, which it was, then we have to accept the result. 

Ronald Anthony Arjune posted:

RiffRaff posted:

BTW, I don't blame this loss on racism...

Dems did not pay attention to working class people and their suffering...these same people who voted for Trump, voted for Obama in 2008

I think the Jew made Donald Trump win and this was racism

ILLUMINATI: Transient control of Jew

The Russan Jews probably.

cain posted:

Had Hillary won, Trump would have said it was rigged and called for recounts and god knows what so it is only right Hillary do the same. Have the FBI go through the votes, see if anything was tampered with...especially from an outside force such as Russia.

I don't ever remember after an election., people gathering to picket the new President but then again, there was no need to, everything was done with some form of decency,except this time around.

Rigging claims have been shelved.   It is all quiet on that front.  Had they lost there would have been hell to pay.  That was a backup plan.

VishMahabir posted:

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

I think Trump decided to run after President Obama made fun of him at one of the press core dinner. He must have taken the jokes personally because he was clearly upset. 

In any case, the Democrats have themselves to blame, and Hillary for losing the election. If we accept it was a free and fair election, which it was, then we have to accept the result. 

Touché. He attacked Obama viscously as he relentlessly on his citizenship.   Much of it was based on his race to stop him.  He is a nasty man.

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

Quit that nonsense. Obama won TWICE.  57% of the votes he received came from whites.

Two white people ran against each other. Hillary couldn't mobilize her base. Even the educated whites didn't swing to her as was expected.  She and the Democratic party needs to understand what went wrong instead of blaming the world for their problems.

Turns out that in 2012 folks were voting for Obama and not the Democrats. Now that he has gone, so has the ability of the people to tolerate the fact that the Democrats are flawed.

Trump is an idiot, ridiculous and embarrassing. The fact that he won, and got many educated people to support him, some previously voting Obama is something that they need to honestly analyze.

Because if they don't there go the opportunities to recapture the Senate, and maybe even the House in 2018.

FC posted:

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Touché. He attacked Obama viscously as he relentlessly on his citizenship.   Much of it was based on his race to stop him.  He is a nasty man.

Obama wasn't running so why is this the issue. He ran when the economy was still weak in 2012, and won.

Find another excuse. A weak candidate, an out of touch campaign, and a Democratic party that is in deep trouble.

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

Quit that nonsense. Obama won TWICE.  57% of the votes he received came from whites.

Two white people ran against each other. Hillary couldn't mobilize her base. Even the educated whites didn't swing to her as was expected.  She and the Democratic party needs to understand what went wrong instead of blaming the world for their problems.

Turns out that in 2012 folks were voting for Obama and not the Democrats. Now that he has gone, so has the ability of the people to tolerate the fact that the Democrats are flawed.

Trump is an idiot, ridiculous and embarrassing. The fact that he won, and got many educated people to support him, some previously voting Obama is something that they need to honestly analyze.

Because if they don't there go the opportunities to recapture the Senate, and maybe even the House in 2018.

What did I say that is nonsense? Are you denying that Republicans did everything in the last few years to obstruct everything that Obama tried to do? Did you even read and understand what I said before you open your mouth and start railing about something totally unrelated to what I said?

Agreed.

Obama did nothing for black people. Good riddance. 

Mars posted:

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What did I say that is nonsense? Are you denying that Republicans did everything in the last few years to obstruct everything that Obama tried to do? Did you even read and understand what I said before you open your mouth and start railing about something totally unrelated to what I said?

The GOP are ideologically opposed to Obama and wanted him to fail.

So tell me why do you think that they would help him succeed? How naïve are you? Do you think that the Democrats will cooperate with Trump? I hope not. Their job is to ensure that he fails and so they can take back the Senate in 2018.

This is the nonsense that partisan people speak. The fact that Obama was so weak and let the GOP walk all over him between 2008 and 2010 is his problem not theirs. Obama won with a MANDATE, and squandered it trying to get the GOP to like him.

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

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What did I say that is nonsense? Are you denying that Republicans did everything in the last few years to obstruct everything that Obama tried to do? Did you even read and understand what I said before you open your mouth and start railing about something totally unrelated to what I said?

The GOP are ideologically opposed to Obama and wanted him to fail.

So tell me why do you think that they would help him succeed? How naïve are you? Do you think that the Democrats will cooperate with Trump? I hope not. Their job is to ensure that he fails and so they can take back the Senate in 2018.

This is the nonsense that partisan people speak. The fact that Obama was so weak and let the GOP walk all over him between 2008 and 2010 is his problem not theirs. Obama won with a MANDATE, and squandered it trying to get the GOP to like him.

Listen Jackass! Read what the topic is about and what I said and respond to that. You're always going off on a tangent and railing like a madman aimlessly. 

Mars posted:

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Listen Jackass! Read what the topic is about and what I said and respond to that. You're always going off on a tangent and railing like a madman aimlessly. 

 

Mars you illustrate why Hillary lost. The GOP want to win, and will do anything to succeed.

If the Democrats lack that hunger they shouldn't cry when they lose.

Now discuss the lunacy of Comey being selected for such a sensitive position, even though he was a known GOP mole. If the GOP didn't want to approve any proper appointee with Democratic credentials, Obama should have left the post empty.

But of course Obama always wants to show how fair he is, even though the GOP are a nest of slimy vipers.  Touch a snake and they will bite. That is all a snake knows how to do!

The crafty Comey started a lie on a Friday evening, giving the entire weekend for the silly press to gargle about their favorite topic.....Hillary's emails.

When it began to look bad he issued a press release on Sunday EVENING, after the talk shows had finished.

So voters had two full weekends, and an entire week to vote, thinking that Hillary was enmeshed in corruption.  When it turned out that she wasn't that was one day before the election.

Why don't you ask yourself why the Democrats are less skilled at this craft of winning?

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

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Listen Jackass! Read what the topic is about and what I said and respond to that. You're always going off on a tangent and railing like a madman aimlessly. 

 

Mars you illustrate why Hillary lost. The GOP want to win, and will do anything to succeed.

If the Democrats lack that hunger they shouldn't cry when they lose.

Now discuss the lunacy of Comey being selected for such a sensitive position, even though he was a known GOP mole. If the GOP didn't want to approve any proper appointee with Democratic credentials, who should have left the post empty.

The crafty Comey started a lie on a Friday evening, giving the entire weekend for the silly press to gargle about their favorite topic.....Hillary's emails.

When it began to look bad he issued a press release on Sunday EVENING, after the talk shows had finished.

So voters had two full weekends, and an entire week to vote, thinking that Hillary was enmeshed in corruption.  When it turned out that she wasn't that was one day before the election.

Why don't you ask yourself why the Democrats are less skilled at this craft of winning?

Find somebody else to spill your bilge with. I have no time for your stupidity. If you want to have a conversation with me, address what I said and stop going around the world. 

Mars posted:

 

Find somebody else to spill your bilge with. I have no time for your stupidity. If you want to have a conversation with me, address what I said and stop going around the world. 

Go and cry boo hoo. Instead of facing facts you chat nonsense.

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

 

Find somebody else to spill your bilge with. I have no time for your stupidity. If you want to have a conversation with me, address what I said and stop going around the world. 

Go and cry boo hoo. Instead of facing facts you chat nonsense.

Facing what facts? You make up straw man arguments that are completely unrelated to what I said. I have no time for you and your round the world tours. Go suck an egg.

Mars posted:

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

 

Find somebody else to spill your bilge with. I have no time for your stupidity. If you want to have a conversation with me, address what I said and stop going around the world. 

Go and cry boo hoo. Instead of facing facts you chat nonsense.

Facing what facts?

Obviously you have time to argue with me. I told you to go to bed and cry yourself to sleep. I do NOT have time for partisans like you who smell feces and claim that it is nice because it comes from the party that you support.

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

 

Find somebody else to spill your bilge with. I have no time for your stupidity. If you want to have a conversation with me, address what I said and stop going around the world. 

Go and cry boo hoo. Instead of facing facts you chat nonsense.

Facing what facts?

Obviously you have time to argue with me. I told you to go to bed and cry yourself to sleep. I do NOT have time for partisans like you who smell feces and claim that it is nice because it comes from the party that you support.

 

Oh Please. One day you're predicting that Hillary was going to lose and the next day you predicted that she would win. Then, you're coming here screaming I told you so, see I was right she would lose. You're a fraud. Gwan suh.

Mars posted:

 

Oh Please. One day you're predicting that Hillary was going to lose and the next day you predicted that she would win. Then, you're coming here screaming I told you so, see I was right she would lose. You're a fraud. Gwan suh.

Oh go and cry and have a childish tantrum.

Read Kari's thread Requiem for CaribNY.  Then look at what happened. Who was right!

I warned about a Miswest surprise, and I told you all not to count the victory until PA and MI results came out.'

You all were WRONG. Accept it. Cease being childish and move on!

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

 

Oh Please. One day you're predicting that Hillary was going to lose and the next day you predicted that she would win. Then, you're coming here screaming I told you so, see I was right she would lose. You're a fraud. Gwan suh.

Oh go and cry and have a choldish tantrum.

Read Kari's thread Requiem for CaribNY.  Then look at what happened. Who was right!

Yesterday, you predicted Hillary was going to win after Hillary was way ahead in the polls. You don't pick someone to lose, then pick them to win and claim that you were right after the result comes out. 

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

Quit that nonsense. Obama won TWICE.  57% of the votes he received came from whites.

Two white people ran against each other. Hillary couldn't mobilize her base. Even the educated whites didn't swing to her as was expected.  She and the Democratic party needs to understand what went wrong instead of blaming the world for their problems.

Turns out that in 2012 folks were voting for Obama and not the Democrats. Now that he has gone, so has the ability of the people to tolerate the fact that the Democrats are flawed.

Trump is an idiot, ridiculous and embarrassing. The fact that he won, and got many educated people to support him, some previously voting Obama is something that they need to honestly analyze.

Because if they don't there go the opportunities to recapture the Senate, and maybe even the House in 2018.

"Two white people ran against each other. Hillary couldn't mobilize her base. Even the educated whites didn't swing to her as was expected.  She and the Democratic party needs to understand what went wrong instead of blaming the world for their problems."

"Trump is an idiot, ridiculous and embarrassing. The fact that he won, and got many educated people to support him, some previously voting Obama is something that they need to honestly analyze."

Perhaps they're not as educated as once thought. Why else would anyone stay away from voting or vote for a person with the qualities you mention up there?  ""Trump is an idiot, ridiculous and embarrassing. "

Mars posted:

 

Yesterday, you predicted Hillary was going to win after Hillary was way ahead in the polls. You don't pick someone to lose, then pick them to win and claim that you were right after the result comes out. 

carry that to Danyael and Kari. I said that 45%+41%= 86% and that we didn't know what these voters were going to do. I CONSISTENTLY warned about a Midwest surprise and a lower black voter turn out. I said this BEFORE the election.

Listen you were WRONG. You all believed a poll that said that Hillary was ahead even though she polled 45% and 15% of the voters weren't accounted for.

Your screams make you look silly. Trump is president and you will have to accept that fact!

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

 

Yesterday, you predicted Hillary was going to win after Hillary was way ahead in the polls. You don't pick someone to lose, then pick them to win and claim that you were right after the result comes out. 

carry that to Danyael and Kari. I said that 45%+41%= 86% and that we didn't know what these voters were going to do. I CONSISTENTLY warned about a Midwest surprise and a lower black voter turn out. I said this BEFORE the election.

Listen you were WRONG. You all believed a poll that said that Hillary was ahead even though she polled 45% and 15% of the voters weren't accounted for.

Your screams make you look silly. Trump is president and you will have to accept that fact!

Yesterday, you said that Hillary would win easily after you saw her way ahead in the polls. Jackass, you picked Hillary to lose and then you picked her to win. Now you're coming here boasting that you were right. Get lost, you're nothing but a fraud. 

Mars posted:

 

Yesterday, you said that Hillary would win easily after you saw her way ahead in the polls. Jackass, you picked Hillary to lose and then you picked her to win. Now you're coming here boasting that you were right. Get lost, you're nothing but a fraud. 

Waaaaah! Waaaah! 5 year old kid having a mental break down!

Go chat with Kari and Danyael about those who said she would win easily.

I said Midwest surprise, the 15% unknown, a lower black turn out and that I was NOT going to celebrate until PA and MI came in.

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

 

Yesterday, you said that Hillary would win easily after you saw her way ahead in the polls. Jackass, you picked Hillary to lose and then you picked her to win. Now you're coming here boasting that you were right. Get lost, you're nothing but a fraud. 

Waaaaah! Waaaah! 5 year old kid having a mental break down!

Go chat with Kari and Danyael about those who said she would win easily.

I said Midwest surprise, the 15% unknown, a lower black turn out and that I was NOT going to celebrate until PA and MI came in.

Yesterday you said that Hillary would win after you saw her way ahead in the polls. You were wrong. You can't have it both ways. When you pick someone to lose and then pick them to win, one of your positions will match the final outcome clown.

Mars posted:

caribny posted:

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Yesterday you said that Hillary would win after you saw her way ahead in the polls.

OK. You have now become a lunatic. Which poll did I cite that said that she was way ahead in the polls. I cited 45%+41%=86%. Is that way ahead in the polls.  I stated that she had a 65% chance of winning, meaning a 35% chance of losing. Way ahead in the polls? I think not.

Now go drown your sorrows and wallow in grief. Take Kari and Danyael  with you. Vexed that the "complainer" CaribNY pointed out weaknesses and vulnerabilities that people like you refused to admit existed.

Kari started a whole thread in this so scream, cry, rant, and wail that I predicted a strong Hillary win.

caribny posted:

Mars posted:

caribny posted:

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Yesterday you said that Hillary would win after you saw her way ahead in the polls.

OK. You have now become a lunatic. Which poll did I cite that said that she was way ahead in the polls. I cited 45%+41%=86%. Is that way ahead in the polls.  I stated that she had a 65% chance of winning, meaning a 35% chance of losing. Way ahead in the polls? I think not.

Now go drown your sorrows and wallow in grief. Take Kari and Danyael  with you. Vexed that the "complainer" CaribNY pointed out weaknesses and vulnerabilities that people like you refused to admit existed.

Kari started a whole thread in this so scream, cry, rant, and wail that I predicted a strong Hillary win.

You must live in a bubble if you didn't know that an overwhelming majority of the polls predicted that Hillary would win. After you saw that you jumped on the bandwagon saying that Hillary would win. Look fool, if you pick someone to lose and then pick them to win, one of the outcomes would be correct.

VishMahabir posted:

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

I think Trump decided to run after President Obama made fun of him at one of the press core dinner. He must have taken the jokes personally because he was clearly upset. 

In any case, the Democrats have themselves to blame, and Hillary for losing the election. If we accept it was a free and fair election, which it was, then we have to accept the result. 

Hillary by passed whites, paid more emphasis on blacks, latineos and muslims. She allowed Obama too much latitude in her campaign.

Obama ridiculed Trump and in all forms and ways, which demonstrated his bitterness and disrespect for the Office of the President. His tirades just enraged white voters and they came out in force. Demonstrating, even though they are considered illiterate, they have the power.

I think Obama cost Hillary the election. White voters in masses made up their minds in the last few days.

How can this black fella stood up and ridiculed a white man. Racism, yes. But in reverse. Obama speaking to a black crowd lambasting a man who has more knowledge than him.

That Kenyan lost his marbles. If racism raised its head, Obama was the medusa, the serpents wiggled out his mouth-full of poison.

I am surprised Trump will meet with him, it show the stupidity of a man who blamed his poor performance on racist white. In the end, he himself played the racist card. 

Obama destroyed Afro-Americans, they doan behave the way he did. Dem is prime and proper people when in high esteem.

Better days are ahead for all peoples of the USA.

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

How did those bastards obstruct Obama for 8 years if they re-elected him as President?  This typical Guyanese mentality of basing everything on race is the reason why there is no progress.  

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Mars posted:

Those bastards spent eight years banding together to disrespect Obama and obstruct everything he tried to do for the American people and now they're talking all this fluffy talk about unity and working together for America. All because of the color of his skin. Trump harassed the man obsessively over his birth certificate and everything else. What hypocrisy.   

How did those bastards obstruct Obama for 8 years if they re-elected him as President?  This typical Guyanese mentality of basing everything on race is the reason why there is no progress.  

Republicans re-elected Obama as president? That's news to me. You must be blind if you didn't see the attacks on Obama because he was a black man.

Americans re-elected Obama as President and many of them were Republicans.  The Democrats could not have Re-elected him alone or Hillary would have been President.  In focusing on the race issue you are missing the point as to why Hillary lost this election.  

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Americans re-elected Obama as President and many of them were Republicans.  The Democrats could not have Re-elected him alone or Hillary would have been President.  In focusing on the race issue you are missing the point as to why Hillary lost this election.  

You must be in dreamland if you think that many Republicans voted to re-elect Obama. Did I say that Hillary lost the elections because of race? You're like that other clown who argues against something that someone never said. Y'all love to build straw men.

RiffRaff posted:

BTW, I don't blame this loss on racism...

Dems did not pay attention to working class people and their suffering...these same people who voted for Trump, voted for Obama in 2008

This election was the last where white people are the majority electors  and indeed it is the last grasp of racism led by the baby boomer generation retrospection of when america was great

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Americans re-elected Obama as President and many of them were Republicans.  The Democrats could not have Re-elected him alone or Hillary would have been President.  In focusing on the race issue you are missing the point as to why Hillary lost this election.  

read, reconcile your position with fact before posting. The above is bunk.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Americans re-elected Obama as President and many of them were Republicans.  The Democrats could not have Re-elected him alone or Hillary would have been President.  In focusing on the race issue you are missing the point as to why Hillary lost this election.  

There are much more Democrats than Republicans, Republicans did not vote to re-elect Obama...you really don't know what you speak of...

Not all white people are Republicans