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July 19, 2016 Source

Although the country’s two largest ethnic groups, East Indian and African-Guyanese, continued to decline in their numbers between 2002 and 2012, the drop was offset by continued growth in the mixed race and Amerindian populations, according to the last census.

However, the 2012 National Population and Housing Census also found that despite the shifts, which include the decline in the East Indian-Guyanese population from 326,277 or 43.4% to 297,493 or 39.8%—a drop of 28,784 or 3.6%—the overall ethnic distribution pattern remained unchanged from the 1980s.

The Bureau of Statistics yesterday announced the release of two Compendiums that further detail the findings of the four-year-old census, including the ethnic composition of the population.

In 2014, the Bureau had released preliminary results that showed a drop of Guyana’s population from 751,223 in 2002 to 746,955 in 2012, which Chief Statistician and Census Officer Lennox Benjamin suggested was mainly influenced by migration.

According to Compendium Two, which details the composition of the population, the East Indian-Guyanese group is still the largest ethnic group in the country. The second largest ethnic group remained African-Guyanese, which accounted for 218,483 persons or 29.2% of the total population in 2012. This figure reflected a drop by 8,579 from 227,062 in 2002, when the group comprised 30.2% of the total population.

While there was a combined decline of 37,363 among the Indian and African-Guyanese populations, there was a combined increase of 32,622 among the mixed race and Amerindian populations. The only other group which saw an increase was the Portuguese.

The third largest ethnic group in 2012 comprised citizens of mixed heritage, who accounted for 148,532 or 19.9% of the total population, which represents an increase of 22,805 or 3.2% over the figure in 2002, which stood at 125,727.

“This group continued to be a significantly growing group over the past three decades,” the analysis noted, while pointing out the similar trend among the Amerindian population, which comprised 10.5% of the total population.

According to the findings, the number of persons identifying as Amerindians stood at 78,492 in 2012, which was an increase of 9,817 over the 2002 figure of 68,675.

20160719Censusrace1“The numbers of each of these two groups have nearly doubled since 1980 and have almost offset the absolute decline noted for the same period in the two major ethnic groups. With the reduction in the size of the entire population, the relative shares of the ethnic groups have expectedly changed with the two groups (Mixed and Amerindians) which have been consistently growing now accounting for a greater share of  the  population  at  the  expense  of  the  two  traditional  dominant  groups,  namely:  the  East  Indian  and  African groups,” the analysis pointed out. It was noted too that both the mixed race and Amerindian groups also accounted for the highest percentage of growth since 1980.

It was also pointed out that there has been a positive net inflow of persons from abroad into Hinter-land regions and a net outflow of persons from Coastland regions—where the major groups reside in large—to overseas.

The remaining ethnic groups comprised the Portuguese, which accounted for 1,910 persons (up from 1,498 in 2002) or 0.26% of the total population; the Chinese, which accounted for 1,377 persons (down from 1,396 in 2002) or 0.18%; and those designated as White, which accounted for 415 persons (down from 477 in 2002) or 0.06%.

In addition, it was noted that a small group, made up of 253 persons or 0.03% of the total population, did not identify with any of the listed race/ethnic groups.

The analysis also includes geographical distributions of the ethnic groups by region and suggests that to the extent that race/ethnicity have social and economic relationships, they could be tied to further analysis of economic activities in the regions, training and levels of education within the groups. “Such findings will be helpful in the design of national and regional plans for human resource development,” it says, while adding that further research could also advance the development of strategies “for the reduction of poverty” and the “amelioration of certain morbidity conditions and their effects,” particularly HIV and AIDS.

The analysis noted that East Indian-Guyanese made up 66% of the total resident population in Region 6; 59.5% in Region 3; 54.7% in Region 5; and 44.6% in Region 2, with fewer numbers in the other regions.

Likewise, it said, African-Guyanese comprised nearly one-half of the total population in Region 10 at 49%; 40.6% of Region 4; 33.1% of Region 5; and lesser proportions in the other regions.

Persons of mixed race, it was noted, had the highest proportion of the population residing in Region 7 at 40.9%; and the second highest proportions in Region 1 (31.2%), Region 2 (23.6%), Region 8 (16.6%), Region 9 (11.2%) and Region 10 (39.6%).

Additionally, the findings show that Amerindians make up 85.8% of the resident population in Region 9; 72.3% of the population Region 8; 64.6% of Region 1; and 37.2% in Region 7.

Meanwhile, a statement issued yesterday by the Bureau of Statistics said the Final Report for the 2012 Census will be disseminated in four main Compendiums. It said the upcoming Compendium Three analyses the important Economic Activity profile of the population and will be disseminated by the end of August. The final Compendium, which will address the remaining key topics such as Education, Fertility, Mortality, and Housing, is to be disseminated by the end November.

It added that a media brief will be held shortly to highlight the main findings so far.

Compendiums One and Two can currently be downloaded from the Bureau’s website:http://www.statisticsguyana.gov.gy

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If we East Indians of Guyana do not take some radical steps soon we will be finished as a people of significance in Guyana in the near future. We cannot keep losing those types of numbers like 29 thousand people. This decline is truly worrying. Where are we headed as a people.

Prashad
Django posted:

Jagdeo and the Freedom House crew including the Afro hating crew on GNI,take note Indian numbers are dwindling 2012 census 39.83%.

Prash,looks like no Indesh for you.

It is more worrying for the Afros given their numbers.  Don't you think?

Billy Ram Balgobin
Prashad posted:

If we East Indians of Guyana do not take some radical steps soon we will be finished as a people of significance in Guyana in the near future. We cannot keep losing those types of numbers like 29 thousand people. This decline is truly worrying. Where are we headed as a people.

Why don't you set up Little Indesh in a room in your house and see if your fiery wife doesn't lock you in.

Indians fled in huge numbers when your "coolie people party" was in power.  They will flee your Indesh as well.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Django posted:

Jagdeo and the Freedom House crew including the Afro hating crew on GNI,take note Indian numbers are dwindling 2012 census 39.83%.

Prash,looks like no Indesh for you.

It is more worrying for the Afros given their numbers.  Don't you think?

How is that worrying?  Most mixed Guyanese are part black, and the PNC traditionally gets most of their votes.  Note regions 7 and 10 as an example. The PNC gets more than 40% of the votes in Region 4, so that is another example.

This is very bad news for the PPP.  They cannot even rely on the Amerindian vote, as evidenced by LGE losses in regions 1 and 9.

FM
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Prashad posted:

. Where are we headed as a people.

While some are leaving, others are marrying blacks and mixed people.  Doing exactly what you did. Your kids are considered mixed, so you are also contributing to the decline.

FM

Ugli need to get informed. He claimed we told an untruth when we quoted the above. Gerhard was able to get the real numbers a ling time ago and posted it here. Ugli said it was a conspiracy to disenfranchise Indians who in his opinion were at least 50 percent.

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Django posted:

Jagdeo and the Freedom House crew including the Afro hating crew on GNI,take note Indian numbers are dwindling 2012 census 39.83%.

Prash,looks like no Indesh for you.

It is more worrying for the Afros given their numbers.  Don't you think?

Billy,depends on your analysis,my view it's more worry some for Indians they are a majority by a margin of 10.33 % over Afros,the mixed at 19.88% and Amerindians at 10.51%,will be more worry some for the funny fellas at Freedom House,the PPP will have to do a lot of ground work to attract the two groups which is 30.9%,they better start dropping the idea that they are an Indian Party.

Django
caribny posted:
Prashad posted:

. Where are we headed as a people.

While some are leaving, others are marrying blacks and mixed people.  Doing exactly what you did. Your kids are considered mixed, so you are also contributing to the decline.

It is pathetic of him to claim his woman is "red" when she has one parent who is black. My son's mother has green eyes and is caramel colored and call her anything but black and she would be insulted.

FM

The 2012 Final Census numbers speak for themselves. Amen.

I am waiting to see how the PPP plans to increase its voting support base and win the 2020 election or future elections. I am sure that the Indian population declined further from 2012 to the present. Relatively, the Africans decline should not worry APNU or the PNC because the incumbent now has reasons and resources to attract the Mixed Race and Amerindian sections of the population.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

The 2012 Final Census numbers speak for themselves. Amen.

I am waiting to see how the PPP plans to increase its voting support base and win the 2020 election or future elections. I am sure that the Indian population declined further from 2012 to the present. Relatively, the Africans decline should not worry APNU or the PNC because the incumbent now has reasons and resources to attract the Mixed Race and Amerindian sections of the population.

What folks need to understand is that the mixed race isn't a monolithic group. Its not an ethnicity.  It merely consists of people who chose not to identify with a particular ethnic group.  Some may validly biracial, or visibly multi racial.  Others might simply be vaguely mixed blacks who prefer to say that they are mixed.

The PNC has traditional won the vast majority of Guyanese who identify as mixed, this because many/most of them operate within the same socio-cultural spaces as do blacks. In fact many might even be blacks who don't wish to refer to themselves as "black".  

There is no sharp dividing line between those who identify as "mixed" (Trotman) or as "black" (Granger). Now most will think that the identification should be reversed.

Its interesting the sudden increase in the people self identifying as "mixed" during the PPP era.  Maybe there may well have been a sudden increase in interracial mixing. Or maybe "black fell out of fashion" and so some decided that it was more socially beneficial to call themselves "mixed". 

Who knows but when I see Region 10 having as many mixed as African identified people, it makes me go "hmmm".

The PPP must be shaking in their boots as it was the heavily "mixed" regions 10 and 7 which put the coalition over the top when one looked at the increase in votes when compared to 2011.

FM
Stormborn posted:
caribny posted:
Prashad posted:

. Where are we headed as a people.

While some are leaving, others are marrying blacks and mixed people.  Doing exactly what you did. Your kids are considered mixed, so you are also contributing to the decline.

It is pathetic of him to claim his woman is "red" when she has one parent who is black. My son's mother has green eyes and is caramel colored and call her anything but black and she would be insulted.

I have no doubt that his wife will identify as "red" or "mixed" given racial identity in Guyana.

Mulattos were a buffer group in the English speaking Caribbean. Neither black nor white, and used by the white bosses to keep the blacks in check. So they had no desire to be seen as black, and they were resented by blacks for the perceived privileges which they enjoyed.

In the USA poor whites were used as the buffer group.  Privileged by their race, and controlled by their low social status. So mulattos were merely kings of the slaves.  So most light skinned American blacks see themselves as "black" because that is how society treats them.  Yes only a sprinkling of privileges over their darker brethren, but basically dumped among them.

Some of the most racist people I know are Caribbean people with green eyes and caramel skin.  Their attitudes would sometimes make the KKK blush.

FM

Not that I can speak for all ...But Dougla's see ourselves as Guyanese, not Indian or African but just that Guyanese and very proud of both sides 

But not hankering for the India or Africa wearing Sari's or Dashiki's. (usng a metaphor but you get the picture) ..We are will and are becomimg a significant group

Being an early Dougla so to speak I tell you the brick bats and fire we took as kids in large by our Indo side (not easy times) , but in saying that looking at the attitudes of my younger Indo family members both in GT  and abroad they only see Guyanese and what I see that when home which is a major step in the right direction for both major races (though shrinking ) so when I heard the PPP vocally say they're an Indian ..Then I knew they are lost and had no clue what so ever.

They will be on the opposition benches for a long long time to come with that mantra, the coalition needs a strong vibrant ,collective opposition but as the PPP stands they are very far from it 

FM
Prashad posted:

If we East Indians of Guyana do not take some radical steps soon we will be finished as a people of significance in Guyana in the near future. We cannot keep losing those types of numbers like 29 thousand people. This decline is truly worrying. Where are we headed as a people.

So you're saying that the smaller ethnic populations are insignificant?

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