https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mqUlCPvspI

You got the point yet? This session is virtually African.  If it was Cuba or Brazil they wouldn't notice anything unusual.

If you go into a Cuban or Brazilian bar you would not find no one dancing without a parthner. Wine and guh down is not there thing. If you had venture out of your basement a little you would know that Forró is Brazilian most popular dance. Make a trip to the Bartica regatta some time and  see live Guyanese youths there copycat it like real Brazilian of even better.. 

sachin_05 posted:

If you go into a Cuban or Brazilian bar you would not find no one dancing without a parthner. Wine and guh down is not there thing. If you had venture out of your basement a little you would know that Forró is Brazilian most popular dance. Make a trip to the Bartica regatta some time and  see live Guyanese youths there copycat it like real Brazilian of even better.. 

Obviously you don't know much about either Cubans or Brazilians.  Don't comment further until you do. I have been to Brazil and have hung out in Afro Cuban entertainment places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZjov0AHrO0

I take it that you didn't watch the Rio Olympics as there was quite a bit of wining going on.  There isn't any where with an African culture where there isn't wining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7RHrBoYJ0

Cubans.  This could also be the DR.

caribny posted:

sachin_05 posted:

If you go into a Cuban or Brazilian bar you would not find no one dancing without a parthner. Wine and guh down is not there thing. If you had venture out of your basement a little you would know that Forró is Brazilian most popular dance. Make a trip to the Bartica regatta some time and  see live Guyanese youths there copycat it like real Brazilian of even better.. 

Obviously you don't know much about either Cubans or Brazilians.  Don't comment further until you do. I have been to Brazil and have hung out in Afro Cuban entertainment places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZjov0AHrO0

I take it that you didn't watch the Rio Olympics as there was quite a bit of wining going on.  There isn't any where with an African culture where there isn't wining.

 

The one word in the title will tell you this is a mixture with Jamaican reggae/back ball moves copycat wana be "Israel Suarez Valdez and Yusimi dancing Cuban Reggaeton"don't get me wrong I am from Caribbean and don't have problem with wine and guh down but like I said if you ever venture into a bar in Cuba or Brazil or even cross the border lethem to Bonfim or Boavista [I did up to last April after Lethem rodeo] you would not find backball or wine and guh down...its just not their thing.. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRnNvaYp_y0

Brazilians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...uSPy_4c#t=25.9915068

Forro is a regional dance from the northern parts of Brazil.  I would imagine that this is where most of those in Guyana are from.  Brazil is a very regionally diverse nation.  Everything from Germany to  Nigeria.

Put tassa drumming in front of Brazilians and they will know exactly what to do and it will not be Indian.

sachin_05 posted:

caribny posted:

sachin_05 posted:

If you go into a Cuban or Brazilian bar you would not find no one dancing without a parthner. Wine and guh down is not there thing. If you had venture out of your basement a little you would know that Forró is Brazilian most popular dance. Make a trip to the Bartica regatta some time and  see live Guyanese youths there copycat it like real Brazilian of even better.. 

Obviously you don't know much about either Cubans or Brazilians.  Don't comment further until you do. I have been to Brazil and have hung out in Afro Cuban entertainment places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZjov0AHrO0

I take it that you didn't watch the Rio Olympics as there was quite a bit of wining going on.  There isn't any where with an African culture where there isn't wining.

 

The one word in the title will tell you this is a mixture with Jamaican reggae/back ball moves copycat wana be "Israel Suarez Valdez and Yusimi dancing Cuban Reggaeton"don't get me wrong I am from Caribbean and don't have problem with wine and guh down but like I said if you ever venture into a bar in Cuba or Brazil or even cross the border lethem to Bonfim or Boavista [I did up to last April after Lethem rodeo] you would not find backball or wine and guh down...its just not their thing.. 

caribny posted:

 

The one word in the title will tell you this is a mixture with Jamaican reggae/back ball moves copycat wana be "Israel Suarez Valdez and Yusimi dancing Cuban Reggaeton"don't get me wrong I am from Caribbean and don't have problem with wine and guh down but like I said if you ever venture into a bar in Cuba or Brazil or even cross the border lethem to Bonfim or Boavista [I did up to last April after Lethem rodeo] you would not find backball or wine and guh down...its just not their thing.. 

 

I see Bonfim is your notion of Brazil.  Now did you go to Rio or Salvador, the 2nd and 3rd largest cities in Brazil?  Now I did.

This is like some one who goes to Orinduik  and then comes back saying that Guyana is an Amerindian country with only a few blacks and no Indians.

Have you been to a Cuban rumba dance?  I used to go to one in NJ.  Black Cubans.  Basically Caribbean "big drum" dancing.  Almost like a kwekwe.

Reggaeton is now embedded Latin Caribbean culture. To claim that Latin Caribbean people don't wine is so silly.  I bet that you will be hard put to find this in Bolivia.

caribny posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRnNvaYp_y0

Brazilians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...uSPy_4c#t=25.9915068

 

Forro is a regional dance from the northern parts of Brazil.  I would imagine that this is where most of those in Guyana are from.  Brazil is a very regionally diverse nation.  Everything from Germany to  Nigeria.

Put tassa drumming in front of Brazilians and they will know exactly what to do and it will not be Indian.

That Olympic crowd is also very diverse, that tassa drum band may even be from Trinidad. I only see two persons in the crowd of dancers with Caribbean waist movement..

Carnival in Santiago Cuba.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVB4eh348tc

sachin_05 posted:

caribny posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRnNvaYp_y0

Brazilians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...uSPy_4c#t=25.9915068

 

Forro is a regional dance from the northern parts of Brazil.  I would imagine that this is where most of those in Guyana are from.  Brazil is a very regionally diverse nation.  Everything from Germany to  Nigeria.

Put tassa drumming in front of Brazilians and they will know exactly what to do and it will not be Indian.

That Olympic crowd is also very diverse, that tassa drum band may even be from Trinidad. I only see two persons in the crowd of dancers with Caribbean waist movement..

This isn't from the Olympics and that isn't a tassa drumming.  That is Brazilian samba dancing.  You see even you thought it was tassa.

Brazilians place more emphasis on the foot work, where we place more on the waist.  But Brazilians and Cubans are fully capable of wining if they want to.

Cuban carnival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVB4eh348tc

caribny posted:

caribny posted:

 

The one word in the title will tell you this is a mixture with Jamaican reggae/back ball moves copycat wana be "Israel Suarez Valdez and Yusimi dancing Cuban Reggaeton"don't get me wrong I am from Caribbean and don't have problem with wine and guh down but like I said if you ever venture into a bar in Cuba or Brazil or even cross the border lethem to Bonfim or Boavista [I did up to last April after Lethem rodeo] you would not find backball or wine and guh down...its just not their thing.. 

 

I see Bonfim is your notion of Brazil.  Now did you go to Rio or Salvador, the 2nd and 3rd largest cities in Brazil?  Now I did.

This is like some one who goes to Orinduik  and then comes back saying that Guyana is an Amerindian country with only a few blacks and no Indians.

Have you been to a Cuban rumba dance?  I used to go to one in NJ.  Black Cubans.  Basically Caribbean "big drum" dancing.  Almost like a kwekwe.

Reggaeton is now embedded Latin Caribbean culture. To claim that Latin Caribbean people don't wine is so silly.  I bet that you will be hard put to find this in Bolivia.

I don't know where you been but I can post pictures Bomfin, Sao Paulo, Boa vista and Manaus and could talk about personal experiences not what I saw on tv Olympics diverse celebrations..

sachin_05 posted:

 

I don't know where you been but I can post pictures Bomfin, Sao Paulo, Boa vista and Manaus and could talk about personal experiences not what I saw on tv Olympics diverse celebrations..

Of course your focus on places with small black populations.

Now go to Rio and Salvador which is the "Caribbean" part of Brazil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFmb_grwfBg

Note even the Cuban version of salsa has a wining factor.

There is a cultural space which extends from New Orleans down to Rio which has African influences in dance.  The specific forms vary but there are commonalities as well as cross cultural influences.

And yes the New Orleans bounce is just a speeded up exaggerated version of what New Orleanians were doing in their second line parades.  Yes wining isn't New Orleans folks copying Caribbean people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SYooE6h2MM

This wouldn't be out of place in the Caribbean.  It would be in Chicago.

You probably saw the PR campaign that Jamaica did with Usain Bolt. Bet you didn't notice how quickly the Jamaicans picked up the Brazilian samba moves.  I am sure that they weren't exposed to it before.

caribny posted:

You probably saw the PR campaign that Jamaica did with Usain Bolt. Bet you didn't notice how quickly the Jamaicans picked up the Brazilian samba moves.  I am sure that they weren't exposed to it before.

Carib, you jealous that your forefathers did not come from India? You, like almost all the nigroes in Guyana, your goal is to have a coolie woman. When a coolie woman takes up with a nigro, that nigro is in heaven. That is the reason you see that when a coolie woman leaves the negro, most of the time she ends up dead...chopped to death.

CaribMan getting like Nehru on a friday......posting youtube video......

caribny posted:

You probably saw the PR campaign that Jamaica did with Usain Bolt. Bet you didn't notice how quickly the Jamaicans picked up the Brazilian samba moves.  I am sure that they weren't exposed to it before.

You need to get out some more old man. You really need to take a break from your basement and get some real life experience. You post copycat Jamaican reggae/backball by some wana be, then want to pass it off as authentic Cuban dance which have their roots in Spanish merengue/tango. What make you think Jamaican were not expose the Brazilian samba before? You should attend a wedding in today Guyana you have DJs playing furro and Brazilian samba and its not uncommon for Guyana  DJs to travel around the Caribbean with their music collection. I will say this to you again Cuban and Brazilian dances are for the most part partner dance. not backball/wine and guh down...ever heard the term 'it takes two to tango?

hehehe This thread started with a banna shining suddenly is about who an who could wine up they batty more, hehee

Kari posted:

CaribMan getting like Nehru on a friday......posting youtube video......

Why.  All the display of Indo Guyanese showing their fine style of Kathak dancing got to you.  Yes the rhythmic movement of the waist (or not so rhythmic in some cases).

Just admit that your attempt to pretend as if Caribbean and Asian Indians are this one community is pure nonsense.

skeldon_man posted:

. That is the reason you see that when a coolie woman leaves the negro, most of the time she ends up dead...chopped to death.

Skeldon I feel your pain.  To see this Indo girls dancing like blacks must upset you.   I can well imagine your screams that this is why the old people were correct not to let women out of the house unless their fathers or husbands allowed this.

sachin_05 posted:

caribny posted:

 

. I will say this to you again Cuban and Brazilian dances are for the most part partner dance. not backball/wine and guh down...ever heard the term 'it takes two to tango?

I will suggest to you who need to get out more.  When it comes to wining Cubans are right up their with Haitians and Trinidadians.

Maybe you hang out with white Cubans so don't know what BLACK Cubans do.

Samba is NOT partner dance.  Forro is country music from the northern part of Brazil.   Do you know what baile funk is?

sachin_05 posted:

 for Guyana  DJs to travel around the Caribbean with their music collection. 

What collections do Guyanese DJs travel around the Caribbean with.  Their Trini music, Bajan music. Jamaican dancehall.

You know that every single Caribbean country plays their own style of music at their carnivals except Guyana.  There its what ever was popular the previous Trini carnival or soca.

YOU are the one who doesn't seem to knowledgeable.  Do you even know any black Cubans, Clearly NOT!

sachin_05 posted:

ic Cuban dance which have their roots in Spanish merengue/tango.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVB4eh348tc

Is this reggaeton?  By the way the biggest music in Cuba and PR is reggaeton or some spin off on it.  Its long past being some copy of Jamaican music.  It is now Latin Caribbean music.

Do you live in NYC, because if you did, unless confined to some RH rum shop, you would know how popular reggaeton is.

If you describe Cuban dance as "Spanish" you really don't know about Cuban music/dance.  It I AFRO CARIBBEAN!  You do know that Tango is from Argentina.  Merengue is from the DR and is NOT from Spain.  It also is Afro Caribbean.

Seriously you really must broaden your cultural horizons!

cain posted:

hehehe This thread started with a banna shining suddenly is about who an who could wine up they batty more, hehee

Hehehe

caribny posted:

Chief posted:

 

Where do you get your information from, or you just make shit up as you go along? 

.

 

I have had Guyanese Indians tell me that they wish that they were black.  One cannot believe every thing that some one tells you.

Sheer skont you writing.

Kari posted:

cain posted:

hehehe This thread started with a banna shining suddenly is about who an who could wine up they batty more, hehee

Hehehe

Which, to the chagrin of those who claim Asian and Caribbean Indians are all and the same, Caribbean Indians seem very interested in doing.

Chief posted:

caribny posted:

Chief posted:

 

Where do you get your information from, or you just make shit up as you go along? 

.

 

I have had Guyanese Indians tell me that they wish that they were black.  One cannot believe every thing that some one tells you.

Sheer skont you writing.

 

Do you know every one who spoke to me, and yes I agree that their desire to be black was pure BS. Motivated by some notion that this is what I wanted to hear. 

My point being that one cannot always believe what people tell you.  Some Asians may spare the hurt feelings of Guyanese Indians, who grovel to them, by pretending that the feelings are mutual.

CaribJ 

Go to church this morning and pray for God to remove from your head some or if not all of that racist bunk  that you are harboring. 

cain posted:

hehehe This thread started with a banna shining suddenly is about who an who could wine up they batty more, hehee

I hear you. Carib took us all the various caribbean cultures, music and dances. I just don't understand why this girl feel the need to keep pulling down her dress.

caribny posted:

Chief posted:

caribny posted:

Chief posted:

Where do you get your information from, or you just make shit up as you go along? 

 

I have had Guyanese Indians tell me that they wish that they were black.  One cannot believe every thing that some one tells you.

Sheer skont you writing.

 

Do you know every one who spoke to me, and yes I agree that their desire to be black was pure BS. Motivated by some notion that this is what I wanted to hear. 

 

I would not have brought it up if I know they were BSing then.

Chief posted:

CaribJ 

Go to church this morning and pray for God to remove from your head some or if not all of that racist bunk  that you are harboring. 

You right. He writing "sheer cunny". Tell am deh again.

This thread should be closed. Period!

Former GNIer Dove wrote extremely racist stuff like Caribny.

This thread will die a slow death I  see.

Leonora posted:

Former GNIer Dove wrote extremely racist stuff like Caribny.

No way,she did not. She may have written as a black person, ie she wrote from a black person's perspective because she is, others here do the same.

Chief posted:

CaribJ 

Go to church this morning and pray for God to remove from your head some or if not all of that racist bunk  that you are harboring. 

What racism do I have.  The degree to which Indo Caribs have been culturally impacted by other groups?  Yes I know that Prashad, Cobra, yuji and baseman are deeply offended by this.

ksazma posted:

cain posted:

hehehe This thread started with a banna shining suddenly is about who an who could wine up they batty more, hehee

I hear you. Carib took us all the various caribbean cultures, music and dances. I just don't understand why this girl feel the need to keep pulling down her dress.

Which just goes to show the degree to which Indo Caribbean people are now integrally Caribbean. That facts offends Kari as he wishes to portray them as being integral to India.

ksazma posted:

 

 

I would not have brought it up if I know they were BSing then.

Which was exactly my point.   And this was to Kari who thinks that when Asian Indians tell Caribbean Indians that they are as Indian as some one born in India that they really mean it. 

I will suggest to him that he ought to be as skeptical as I was when some Indians told me that they wished that they were black.  They thought that this was what I wanted to hear.