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Tehran — Iran said on Saturday that it had safely returned a monkey to Earth after blasting it into space in the second such launch this year in its controversial ballistic programme.

 

President Hassan Rouhani congratulated the scientists involved in the mission, in a message carried by the official IRNA news agency.

 

The report added that the rocket reached a height of 120 kilometres (75 miles).

 

In January, Iran said it had successfully brought a live monkey, which it named Pishgam (Pioneer), back to Earth from orbit.

 

But the experiment's success was disputed, when a different monkey was presented to the media after the landing.

 

An earlier attempt had failed in September 2011.

 

Iran's space programme has prompted concern among Western governments, which fear Tehran is trying to master the technology required to deliver a nuclear warhead.

 

The Islamic republic insists that its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful.

 

"By the grace of God and through the efforts of Iranian space scientists, the Pajohesh (research) rocket containing the second live space monkey, named Fargam (Auspicious), was sent into space and brought back to Earth safely," Rouhani said in his message.

 

State television broadcast footage of the rocket launch which state television said took place on Saturday morning.

 

A helicopter brought a capsule to the scene which the reporter said contained the monkey, and later footage of a monkey wearing a red shirt was shown.

 

Iran's space programme was heavily promoted by Rouhani's controversial predecessor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who quipped in February that he was "ready to be the first Iranian to be sacrificed by the scientists of my country and go into space, even though I know there are a lot of candidates".

 

To the dismay of animal welfare groups, Fargam was following in the footsteps of a menagerie of dogs and monkeys that were among the early stars of the US and Soviet space programmes in the 1960s.

 

Earlier this year, Iranian space officials raised the prospect of sending a Persian cat into space.

 

"Iran's archaic experiment... is a throwback to the primitive techniques of the 1950s," People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals spokesman Ben Williamson said at the time.

 

The stated aim of Iran's programme is a manned launch by 2020.

The programme deeply unsettles Western governments as the technology used in space rockets can also be used in ballistic missiles.

 

The UN Security Council has imposed an almost total embargo on the export of nuclear and space technology to Iran since 2007.

 

Tehran denies its space programme has any link with its alleged nuclear ambitions.

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Originally Posted by baseman:

Tehran — Iran said on Saturday that it had safely returned a monkey to Earth after blasting it into space in the second such launch this year in its controversial ballistic programme.

 

President Hassan Rouhani congratulated the scientists involved in the mission, in a message carried by the official IRNA news agency.

 

The report added that the rocket reached a height of 120 kilometres (75 miles).

 

In January, Iran said it had successfully brought a live monkey, which it named Pishgam (Pioneer), back to Earth from orbit.

 

But the experiment's success was disputed, when a different monkey was presented to the media after the landing.

 

An earlier attempt had failed in September 2011.

 

Iran's space programme has prompted concern among Western governments, which fear Tehran is trying to master the technology required to deliver a nuclear warhead.

 

The Islamic republic insists that its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful.

 

"By the grace of God and through the efforts of Iranian space scientists, the Pajohesh (research) rocket containing the second live space monkey, named Fargam (Auspicious), was sent into space and brought back to Earth safely," Rouhani said in his message.

 

State television broadcast footage of the rocket launch which state television said took place on Saturday morning.

 

A helicopter brought a capsule to the scene which the reporter said contained the monkey, and later footage of a monkey wearing a red shirt was shown.

 

Iran's space programme was heavily promoted by Rouhani's controversial predecessor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who quipped in February that he was "ready to be the first Iranian to be sacrificed by the scientists of my country and go into space, even though I know there are a lot of candidates".

 

To the dismay of animal welfare groups, Fargam was following in the footsteps of a menagerie of dogs and monkeys that were among the early stars of the US and Soviet space programmes in the 1960s.

 

Earlier this year, Iranian space officials raised the prospect of sending a Persian cat into space.

 

"Iran's archaic experiment... is a throwback to the primitive techniques of the 1950s," People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals spokesman Ben Williamson said at the time.

 

The stated aim of Iran's programme is a manned launch by 2020.

The programme deeply unsettles Western governments as the technology used in space rockets can also be used in ballistic missiles.

 

The UN Security Council has imposed an almost total embargo on the export of nuclear and space technology to Iran since 2007.

 

Tehran denies its space programme has any link with its alleged nuclear ambitions.

getting a missile safely into orbit and retrieving a re entry vehicle with a life cargo is  a phenomenal thing. They simply have to scale up to carry humans.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Tehran — Iran said on Saturday that it had safely returned a monkey to Earth after blasting it into space in the second such launch this year in its controversial ballistic programme.

 

President Hassan Rouhani congratulated the scientists involved in the mission, in a message carried by the official IRNA news agency.

 

The report added that the rocket reached a height of 120 kilometres (75 miles).

 

In January, Iran said it had successfully brought a live monkey, which it named Pishgam (Pioneer), back to Earth from orbit.

 

But the experiment's success was disputed, when a different monkey was presented to the media after the landing.

 

An earlier attempt had failed in September 2011.

 

Iran's space programme has prompted concern among Western governments, which fear Tehran is trying to master the technology required to deliver a nuclear warhead.

 

The Islamic republic insists that its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful.

 

"By the grace of God and through the efforts of Iranian space scientists, the Pajohesh (research) rocket containing the second live space monkey, named Fargam (Auspicious), was sent into space and brought back to Earth safely," Rouhani said in his message.

 

State television broadcast footage of the rocket launch which state television said took place on Saturday morning.

 

A helicopter brought a capsule to the scene which the reporter said contained the monkey, and later footage of a monkey wearing a red shirt was shown.

 

Iran's space programme was heavily promoted by Rouhani's controversial predecessor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who quipped in February that he was "ready to be the first Iranian to be sacrificed by the scientists of my country and go into space, even though I know there are a lot of candidates".

 

To the dismay of animal welfare groups, Fargam was following in the footsteps of a menagerie of dogs and monkeys that were among the early stars of the US and Soviet space programmes in the 1960s.

 

Earlier this year, Iranian space officials raised the prospect of sending a Persian cat into space.

 

"Iran's archaic experiment... is a throwback to the primitive techniques of the 1950s," People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals spokesman Ben Williamson said at the time.

 

The stated aim of Iran's programme is a manned launch by 2020.

The programme deeply unsettles Western governments as the technology used in space rockets can also be used in ballistic missiles.

 

The UN Security Council has imposed an almost total embargo on the export of nuclear and space technology to Iran since 2007.

 

Tehran denies its space programme has any link with its alleged nuclear ambitions.

getting a missile safely into orbit and retrieving a re entry vehicle with a life cargo is  a phenomenal thing. They simply have to scale up to carry humans.

Like the 20-80%. And to bring in a Nuke warhead.

FM

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

The conquest happens here on earth, to prevent some from getting to space.  About 20 years ago, the USA used it's clout against a floundering Russia to prevent transfer of technology to boost India's space program, a program focused on peaceful development.  Today, more challenging nations, like Iran, have moved ahead and there is nothing the US could do.  The strategic depth developed by Iran leaves them with limited exposure to US actions, short of outright war.  The Iranians have their ducks (and monkeys) all lined up.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

The conquest happens here on earth, to prevent some from getting to space.  About 20 years ago, the USA used it's clout against a floundering Russia to prevent transfer of technology to boost India's space program, a program focused on peaceful development.  Today, more challenging nations, like Iran, have moved ahead and there is nothing the US could do.  The strategic depth developed by Iran leaves them with limited exposure to US actions, short of outright war.  The Iranians have their ducks (and monkeys) all lined up.

You missed my point completely. The US itself cannot do it even with its 16 trillion dollars economy. We will have to leave this place and unless we cooperate we ain't going nowhere.  The US and Russia were working well until Putin. There is no incentive in giving the Iranians US tech...not under a mullah driven government. India does not have the resources to do it or the drive.

FM
Originally Posted by TI:

They might have to fight the Chinese. There is Chinese rover rolling around the moon as we speak. Don't be surprised if China Moon restaurants start opening up there! 

The US has two vehicle on the edge of the heliosphere. A vehicle is on its way to Pluto we have multiple rovers on mars, there are a few on their way to intercept comets and we have an orbiter around Saturn. There are robots monitoring the sun and the stars of all kinds so the Chinese on the moon is a tempest in a teacup. The catchup time is decades away.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

The conquest happens here on earth, to prevent some from getting to space.  About 20 years ago, the USA used it's clout against a floundering Russia to prevent transfer of technology to boost India's space program, a program focused on peaceful development.  Today, more challenging nations, like Iran, have moved ahead and there is nothing the US could do.  The strategic depth developed by Iran leaves them with limited exposure to US actions, short of outright war.  The Iranians have their ducks (and monkeys) all lined up.

You missed my point completely. The US itself cannot do it even with its 16 trillion dollars economy.

Wow, what a revelation.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

The conquest happens here on earth, to prevent some from getting to space.  About 20 years ago, the USA used it's clout against a floundering Russia to prevent transfer of technology to boost India's space program, a program focused on peaceful development.  Today, more challenging nations, like Iran, have moved ahead and there is nothing the US could do.  The strategic depth developed by Iran leaves them with limited exposure to US actions, short of outright war.  The Iranians have their ducks (and monkeys) all lined up.

You missed my point completely. The US itself cannot do it even with its 16 trillion dollars economy.

Wow, what a revelation.

that is what they say it is...I do not count it, I just repeat is. Argue with those who do the counting.

 

In any event, it is about space programs.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

The conquest happens here on earth, to prevent some from getting to space.  About 20 years ago, the USA used it's clout against a floundering Russia to prevent transfer of technology to boost India's space program, a program focused on peaceful development.  Today, more challenging nations, like Iran, have moved ahead and there is nothing the US could do.  The strategic depth developed by Iran leaves them with limited exposure to US actions, short of outright war.  The Iranians have their ducks (and monkeys) all lined up.

You missed my point completely. The US itself cannot do it even with its 16 trillion dollars economy.

Wow, what a revelation.

that is what they say it is...I do not count it, I just repeat is. Argue with those who do the counting.

 

In any event, it is about space programs.

No, you are smart, really smart to figure out the USA alone cannot conquer space.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

In 1957 the former Soviet Union [mainly Russia] sent a dog named Laika [Barker] to orbit the earth. Laika is regarded as the first living creature to venture into outer space. Unfortunately, the poor dog died in flight when its oxygen supply ran out.

Three years later the Soviets sent two more dogs named Belka and Strelka into outer space. They orbited the earth for one day and returned home safely.

The USA would like to confine space exploration to only a few countries. I think every capable country should have the freedom to explore outer space peacefully.

Best wishes to Iran in its space program.

space cannot be conquered by any one country. It will take most nations an entire years income to put a man on mars and bring him back and that is some 13 light minutes.

The conquest happens here on earth, to prevent some from getting to space.  About 20 years ago, the USA used it's clout against a floundering Russia to prevent transfer of technology to boost India's space program, a program focused on peaceful development.  Today, more challenging nations, like Iran, have moved ahead and there is nothing the US could do.  The strategic depth developed by Iran leaves them with limited exposure to US actions, short of outright war.  The Iranians have their ducks (and monkeys) all lined up.

You missed my point completely. The US itself cannot do it even with its 16 trillion dollars economy.

Wow, what a revelation.

that is what they say it is...I do not count it, I just repeat is. Argue with those who do the counting.

 

In any event, it is about space programs.

No, you are smart, really smart to figure out the USA alone cannot conquer space.

And you are also smart to figure out that he is smart to figure out the USA alone cannot conquer space.  

Mitwah

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