Mars posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:yuji22 posted:Another fish up for the sakawinki.
You know obviously don’t know much about the animal. It is a Sakiwinki.
Dat's the primate. SakAwinki is de bird. Like yuh stchupid.
Yugi claimed that it’s the monkey 🐒 and there is no such bird 🦅
I know. I was joking.....
Guyana politics has gone to the monkeys and birds. 
Leonora posted:Guyana politics has gone to the monkeys and birds.
Well, at least not to the birds 🦅 and the bees 🐝! Not yet anyway!
Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Irfaan Ali speaking to reporters at court today
yuji22 posted:Irfaan and his lawyers will skin the AFC PNC cat in court after they are done with them.
How you know duh? You gatt cyatt eye? If suh, nah skin am open too big, e mite pop out!
They will come to a financial settlement. If dem PPP bais tief, well dem build big house right in Guyana. Burnham tief and hide am Swaziland. Dem lower level PNC tief and buy nuff nuff house cash in Toronto! Poor hungry-belly Guyanese recovered squat!
GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Enjoying the high life.
Did someone descend from the ceiling with a rope and get him as was mentioned recently?
Why did they need to arrest him at 4 am? Seems a high degree of spite.
Baseman posted:Why did they need to arrest him at 4 am? Seems a high degree of spite.
It would be divine decree if they are able to jail his fat ass. However, there is no god in this so with the devil managing everything on both sides to his eternal glee, one could only watch, Both party are the devil playthings.
GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
VishMahabir posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
Not their marbles but the wood, you understand now?
Mars posted:
Like dem bhais follow de leader and showing dem pride in public.
So what happens to the thousands of free house lots that the PPP gave out to PNC families, food for thought. This gov’t is shameless.
Irfan was scheduled to kickoff the upcoming budget debate, this is the motive for the arrest.
alena06 posted:So what happens to the thousands of free house lots that the PPP gave out to PNC families, food for thought. This gov’t is shameless.
house lots in Guyana are not the PPP's property to gift anyone, much less "PNC" families
YOU with your idiot propaganda are the one that's SHAMELESS!
VishMahabir posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
Your "VishMofobeer" have shown your true colors. You are a fake anti PPP pretending to be one from the diaspora seeking a connection with his ancestral homeland.
Gwan suh fake!
kp posted:VishMahabir posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
Not their marbles but the wood, you understand now?
...good one...funniest ting i read here tonite!
Baseman posted:VishMahabir posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
Your "VishMofobeer" have shown your true colors. You are a fake anti PPP pretending to be one from the diaspora seeking a connection with his ancestral homeland.
Gwan suh fake!
Basement dweller,
You are one of the more reasonable "Indos" here...why you going into the gutter and trying to impute people's motives....this is beneath you.
Like de Jagdeo pix bringing back some emotional flashbacks...or is dat really YOU in de pix trying to find dem marbles?
VishMahabir posted:Baseman posted:VishMahabir posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
Your "VishMofobeer" have shown your true colors. You are a fake anti PPP pretending to be one from the diaspora seeking a connection with his ancestral homeland.
Gwan suh fake!
Basement dweller,
You are one of the more reasonable "Indos" here...why you going into the gutter and trying to impute people's motives....this is beneath you.
Like de Jagdeo pix bringing back some emotional flashbacks...or is dat really YOU in de pix trying to find dem marbles?
I see I get on your nerve!
fk u guys an dem quotes, Yall rass lucky I aint the bossman, suspensions would be handed out swiftly for such acts.
cain posted:fk u guys an dem quotes, Yall rass lucky I aint the bossman, suspensions would be handed out swiftly for such acts.
what quotes?
you mean marbles?
VishMahabir posted:Baseman posted:VishMahabir posted:GTAngler posted:Mars posted:
Chap looks well fed......
Why is it that all dem PPP people always checking to see if dem marbles still in place?
Your "VishMofobeer" have shown your true colors. You are a fake anti PPP pretending to be one from the diaspora seeking a connection with his ancestral homeland.
Gwan suh fake!
Basement dweller,
You are one of the more reasonable "Indos" here...why you going into the gutter and trying to impute people's motives....this is beneath you.
Like de Jagdeo pix bringing back some emotional flashbacks...or is dat really YOU in de pix trying to find dem marbles?
Ow Banna, don’t fire back so hard on the basement dweller. Things baaad nowadays people get smart now and are not donating to the charity scamming banna. De banna high on something. Talk half and leff leff half. Trump is aiming for the welfare scammers next. Aye Aye Aye.
alena06 posted:So what happens to the thousands of free house lots that the PPP gave out to PNC families, food for thought. This gov’t is shameless.
The PPP cannot give away what is not theirs. Per national policy they may allocate to the poor national resources in an equal manner to anyone. Their give away of housing schemes to buddy, bk et all is also or should also be under scrutiny for a quid pro quo. The allocation of plots for spacious dachas on the coast together with misuse of state assets to lay down infrastructure is or should constitute misuse of state assets. What is shameless is your presumption that the PPP is "charitable" to PNCites alone ( meaning black people) That is distilled bigotry in play.
VishMahabir posted:Basement dweller,
You are one of the more reasonable "Indos" here...why you going into the gutter and trying to impute people's motives....this is beneath you.
Like de Jagdeo pix bringing back some emotional flashbacks...or is dat really YOU in de pix trying to find dem marbles?
Why the "basement dweller" appellation? Leave such bad habits for the ranks of the netherworld denizens here.
yuji22 posted:Ow Banna, don’t fire back so hard on the basement dweller. Things baaad nowadays people get smart now and are not donating to the charity scamming banna. De banna high on something. Talk half and leff leff half. Trump is aiming for the welfare scammers next. Aye Aye Aye.
The abstraction of your nasty habits seem to send you into paroxysms of organismic convulsions. There is nothing enlightening or honorable in disparaging the good name of others based on horrid disinformation from the sewage of a mind like yours. As I said, continue this way and you will get your just deserves.
It's political suppression.
D2 posted:alena06 posted:So what happens to the thousands of free house lots that the PPP gave out to PNC families, food for thought. This gov’t is shameless.
The PPP cannot give away what is not theirs. Per national policy they may allocate to the poor national resources in an equal manner to anyone. Their give away of housing schemes to buddy, bk et all is also or should also be under scrutiny for a quid pro quo. The allocation of plots for spacious dachas on the coast together with misuse of state assets to lay down infrastructure is or should constitute misuse of state assets. What is shameless is your presumption that the PPP is "charitable" to PNCites alone ( meaning black people) That is distilled bigotry in play.
Which housing schemes did the PPP give to Buddy, BK et al?
November 29 2018
Nineteen charges of conspiracy to defraud by common law, were yesterday instituted against former PPP/C Minister of Housing, Mohammed Irfaan Ali by the Special Organised Crime Unit (SOCU), after nearly two years of investigations.
The charges, which detail offences alleged to have occurred between the period of September, 2010 to March 30, 2015, are in connection with the Pradoville 2 Housing Scheme on the East Coast of Demerara, and involve housing allocations to six Cabinet members—then president Bharrat Jagdeo, Cabinet Secretary Dr Roger Luncheon and ministers Priya Manickchand, Dr Jennifer Westford, Robert Persaud and Clement Rohee—along with other persons with connections to the government.
The basis of the charges is that the lands were sold far below their value. It is unclear if any action is contemplated against the recipients of the land.
Ali, 38, of Lot 30 Sea Spray, Leonora, was brought into the courtroom of Chief Magistrate Ann McLennan in the company of SOCU officials, and placed in the prisoners’ dock, where he awaited the reading of the charges.
The courtroom of the Chief Magistrate was packed to capacity with media personnel and PPP/C supporters, the latter including former Prime Minister Samuel Hinds, and MP Juan Edghill.
After the 19 indictable charges were sworn to, they were read to the accused. Ali, a current Member of Parliament, was not required to plead to the charges read.
It is alleged that Ali, on September 2, 2010, at Georgetown, conspired with other persons unknown to defraud the Government of Guyana of the sum of $5,506,698, having acted recklessly in presenting the value of a plot of State land situated at Plantation Sparendaam, ECD, when he sold said land to Clement Rohee without first obtaining a valuation to determine its true value, which was in the sum of $7,021,698.
It is also alleged that on September 2, 2010, at Georgetown, Ali allegedly conspired with other persons unknown to defraud the Government of Guyana of the sum of $5,506,698, when he acted recklessly in presenting the value of a plot of State land situated at Plantation Sparendaam ECD, and sold the land to Rebecca Ramotar without first obtaining a valuation to determine the true value, which was in the sum of $7,021,698.
Further, it is alleged that Ali, on November 4, 2011, at Georgetown, conspired with other persons unknown to defraud the Government of Guyana of the sum of $6,233,560, when he acted recklessly in presenting the value of a plot of State land situated at Plantation Sparendaam, ECD, having sold the said land to Rajendra Singh without first obtaining a valuation to determine the true value of the land, which was in the sum of $7,736,060.
On September 2, 2010, Ali also allegedly attempted to defraud the government of $5,461,263, after he allegedly sold a plot of land at Plantation Goedverwagting, ECD to Floreen Loretta Rahamat and Roger Luncheon, when its true value was $6,963,763.
On the aforementioned date, the accused also allegedly attempted to defraud the government of $5,506,698, after selling a plot of land at Plantation Goedverwagting, ECD, to Compton Bourne, a former head of the Caribbean Development Bank, the true value of the land being $7,021,698.
Furthermore, it was claimed that the accused once again attempted to defraud the government on that same date, of $8,106,838, when he sold a plot of land at Plantation Goedverwagting, ECD, now in the name of Dave Narine, to Priya Manickchand, when the true value of the land was $9,631,838.
Additional charges against Ali alleged that also on October 2, he attempted to defraud the government of: $5,521,698 for a plot of land at the very location, sold to Shaik Baksh when its true value was $10,363,812; for land now in the name of L.S.R Inc., a limited liability, sold to Robert Persaud, when its true value was $11,878,812; $8,365,455, for a plot of land at Goedverwagting, ECD, sold to former President Bharrat Jagdeo, when its true value was $10,669,955; $5,790,211, for a plot of land sold to former Minister Jeffrey, when its true value was $7,383,211; and $5,461,262, when he sold a plot of land to Gansham Singh and Ruveni Parag-Singh, when its true value was $6,963,763.
It was further alleged that on October 25, 2010 the accused allegedly attempted to defraud the government of $5,461,263 by selling a plot of land at Plantation Sparendaam to Ramesh Dookhoo, with the true value of the land being $6,963,763.
In January 22, 2012, Ali also allegedly attempted to defraud the government of $7,089,985 for a plot of land at Plantation Sparendaam sold to Ranjee Bishop, when its true value was $8,599,985.
On November 6, 2011, the defendant allegedly committed fraud again, this time, when he sold a plot of land at Plantation Sparendaam to Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Shalimar Ali-Hack and Mona Hack for $5,634,610, when the true value of the land was $7,123,354.
The defendant is also accused of attempting to defraud the government of $5,461,263, when he sold a plot of land at Plantation Sparendaam to former GDF Chief of Staff, Gary Best, on September 1, 2010, when the land’s true value was $6,963,763.
On September 6, 2010, there was said to be an attempt to defraud the government of $27,260,880, when a plot of land, located at Plantation Goedverwagting, was sold to Jagdeo, with its true value being $34,760,880.
Another charge claimed that on November 23, 2011, there was an attempt to defraud the government of $6,233,560, when a plot of land, located at Plantation Sparendaam was sold to Safraz Khan, with its true value being $7.7 million.
Yet another charge alleged that on May 30, 2013, Ali attempted to defraud the government of $24,752,533, when a plot of land, located at Plantation Sparendaam was sold to George Alah and Nada Alah, when its true value was $29,757,533.
Finally, on March 30, 2015, it was said that the defendant attempted to defraud the government again, this time of $21,106,100, when he sold a plot of land at Plantation Sparendaam to Fortune Developers International, when its true value was $24,106,100.
No objections
SOCU prosecutor Patrice Henry, yesterday told the court that he had no objections to bail being granted and went on to request a date for report.
Attorney Devindra Kissoon, who represented the accused in association with Anil Nandlall, Sase Gunraj, Priya Manickchand and Jaya Manickchand, made an application for the court to grant his client self-bail, based simply on his background and the facts surrounding the matter.
Nandlall later supported his colleague’s request and informed the court that he has never seen a charge such as the ones brought before the court yesterday, in Guyana or in any Commonwealth country. He described the charges as “unique”.
The attorney added that the matter for which his client has been charged has been in the public domain for the past two years.
Despite the requests made by the attorneys for the defendant to be released on self-bail, prosecutor Henry maintained his request for Ali to be placed on cash bail. He noted that the Preliminary Inquiry that will be held in the matters requires the full attendance of the defendant and cash bail will ensure same.
He noted, however, that if the court is not mindful to grant cash bail, the defendant should be asked to lodge his passport.
Priya Manickchand stated that the charges against the accused are political in nature and trumped up against him.
The Chief Magistrate, having considered what was said by both the prosecution and the attorneys, released the accused on his own recognizance.
The matter was adjourned until January 7, 2019.
Outside the courtroom, Ali told reporters that during his tenure as Minister, with the help of staff and PPP personnel, they would have distributed more than 1000 regularized lots. He added that maybe there should have been charges for every house lot that was given.
He contended that no form of wickedness, no form of political victimization, no form of pressure, that the government brings upon them to silence them, will work.
Ali noted that the charges have made him stronger, adding that he is standing on stronger foundations to fight the dictatorship.
The charges against Ali are the culmination of a major long-running investigation into the housing scheme developed under the Jagdeo administration.
A special investigation of the housing development, which was part of a larger probe of the financial operations of the Central Housing and Planning Authority (CH&PA), was conducted by accounting firm Ram & McRae.
The investigation revealed that the allocation of the land was a clandestine arrangement that was handled personally by then Minister Ali and it was concluded that a criminal case for misfeasance could be made against the PPP/C Cabinet members who benefitted.
The probe found that the awardees grossly underpaid for the lots by a total of nearly $250 million, while the state-owned National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited, National Communications Network, and Guyana Power and Light Inc were never reimbursed for millions spent to execute preparatory works.
The findings of the investigation were later referred to SOCU for a criminal probe to be launched.
"Nandlall later supported his colleague’s request and informed the court that he has never seen a charge such as the ones brought before the court yesterday, in Guyana or in any Commonwealth country. He described the charges as “unique”.
I said bright boy, will represent Irfaan, take a look what he said about the charges.
D2 posted:yuji22 posted:Ow Banna, don’t fire back so hard on the basement dweller. Things baaad nowadays people get smart now and are not donating to the charity scamming banna. De banna high on something. Talk half and leff leff half. Trump is aiming for the welfare scammers next. Aye Aye Aye.
The abstraction of your nasty habits seem to send you into paroxysms of organismic convulsions. There is nothing enlightening or honorable in disparaging the good name of others based on horrid disinformation from the sewage of a mind like yours. As I said, continue this way and you will get your just deserves.
As they say, people who like to point a finger have three pointing back. I ignore him, he is doing the dirty work of another discredited poster. She was in my bed and knows it’s a lie. She also knows my basement held about 20 aquarium few as big as 300 gals with lots of exotic tropical sweet water fish. My youngest son’s hobby! This same person enjoyed many paid (including trans-continental) vacations with me. If t’was a scam, then she was also a participant as a beneficiary for a whole year.
He starts out as a fake (cow batty Brahmin) who he is. He claimed to have “checked” me out. Well what did he come up with? I’m on the BoD of few registered 501(c), which has other notable diaspora personalities. So email and tell them.
BTW, all the charities are going very strong. New donors every day from the USA, Canada and the UK. We have to expand due to demand and donations. We are doing great.
Django posted:I said bright boy, will represent Irfaan, take a look what he said about the charges.
Django, why are you calling Anil "bright boy"?Are you sincere or cynical?
Anil! Anil! Anil!
Django posted:
Ali, 38, of Lot 30 Sea Spray, Leonora, was brought into the courtroom of Chief Magistrate Ann McLennan in the company of SOCU officials, and placed in the prisoners’ dock, where he awaited the reading of the charges.
This chap could be my family. I better be quiet about him. 
Irfaan Ali was an excellent Minister of Housing
There was always something being built even though there was a lack of resources for his Ministry.
I hope Irfaan is given the Housing Ministry again when this clueless PNC government falls.
Leonora posted:Django posted:Ali, 38, of Lot 30 Sea Spray, Leonora, was brought into the courtroom of Chief Magistrate Ann McLennan in the company of SOCU officials, and placed in the prisoners’ dock, where he awaited the reading of the charges.
This chap could be my family. I better be quiet about him.
You have family all over the place.
Irfaan Father former teacher is a great guy, we know each other.Irfaan and my eldest son and other students,wrote Common Entrance the same year tutored by his father, both went to Saints in Georgetown.
I felt some sadness for Irfaan, knowing him from since his teenage years,he should have never followed the Rat.
Django posted:You have family all over the place.
Irfaan Father former teacher is a great guy, we know each other.Irfaan and my eldest son and other students,wrote Common Entrance the same year tutored by his father, both went to Saints in Georgetown.
I felt some sadness for Irfaan, knowing him from since his teenage years,he should have never followed the Rat.
Don't know of any muslim relatives but who knows what my ancestors did. I was happy to see a bright young man duking it out in the Political arena and still wish him all the best.
Leonora posted:Django posted:You have family all over the place.
Irfaan Father former teacher is a great guy, we know each other.Irfaan and my eldest son and other students,wrote Common Entrance the same year tutored by his father, both went to Saints in Georgetown.
I felt some sadness for Irfaan, knowing him from since his teenage years,he should have never followed the Rat.
Don't know of any muslim relatives but who knows what my ancestors did.
Me thinks he will get a slap on the wrist. As a politician his name will still be tarnished for wrong doings.An old friend said he warned them , apparently they didn't took his advise.
Leonora posted:Django posted:
Ali, 38, of Lot 30 Sea Spray, Leonora, was brought into the courtroom of Chief Magistrate Ann McLennan in the company of SOCU officials, and placed in the prisoners’ dock, where he awaited the reading of the charges.
This chap could be my family. I better be quiet about him.
Given recent revelations, I am not saying a word.
Irfaan Ali comes from sturdy political stock. His grandmother was a leading PPP-WPO activist in Leonora & WestDem during the 1960s. His uncle MZ Ali was a PYO activist and Mirror journalist throughout the 1970s.
Irfaan is a fighter and is being targeted by the PNC. The PNC picked a fight with the wrong banna. Irfaan !!! Irfaan !!! Irfaan !!!
Allahu Akbar !!!!!
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