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Hoagland further asserts in his report that is “beyond coincidence” that Comet Elenin is scheduled make its closest approach to the Sun on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, 11 September 2011, and that on 11 November 2011 (11-11-11) its orbit will carry it into a “grand alignment” between itself, the Earth and other planets in our Solar System.

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Comet Elenin

Comet Elenin: Preview of a Coming Attraction
Trajectory of comet Elenin. Trajectory of comet Elenin. Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech


May 04, 2011

You may have heard the news: Comet Elenin is coming to the inner-solar system this fall. Comet Elenin (also known by its astronomical name C/2010 X1), was first detected on Dec. 10, 2010 by Leonid Elenin, an observer in Lyubertsy, Russia, who made the discovery "remotely" using the ISON-NM observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico. At the time of the discovery, the comet was about 647 million kilometers (401 million miles) from Earth. Over the past four-and-a-half months, the comet has – as comets do – closed the distance to Earth's vicinity as it makes its way closer to perihelion (its closest point to the sun). As of May 4, Elenin's distance is about 274 million kilometers (170 million miles).

"That is what happens with these long-period comets that come in from way outside our planetary system," said Don Yeomans of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "They make these long, majestic, speedy arcs through our solar system, and sometimes they put on a great show. But not Elenin. Right now that comet looks kind of wimpy."

How does a NASA scientist define cometary wimpiness?

"We're talking about how a comet looks as it safely flies past us," said Yeomans. "Some cometary visitors arriving from beyond the planetary region – like Hale-Bopp in 1997 -- have really lit up the night sky where you can see them easily with the naked eye as they safely transit the inner-solar system. But Elenin is trending toward the other end of the spectrum. You'll probably need a good pair of binoculars, clear skies, and a dark, secluded location to see it even on its brightest night."

Comet Elenin should be at its brightest shortly before the time of its closest approach to Earth on Oct. 16 of this year. At its closest point, it will be 35 million kilometers (22 million miles) from us. Can this icy interloper influence us from where it is, or where it will be in the future? What about this celestial object inspiring some shifting of the tides or even tectonic plates here on Earth? There have been some incorrect Internet speculations that external forces could cause comet Elenin to come closer.

"Comet Elenin will not encounter any dark bodies that could perturb its orbit, nor will it influence us in any way here on Earth," said Yeomans. "It will get no closer to Earth than 35 million kilometers [about 22 million miles]. "

"Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets," said Yeomans. "And comets are not the most densely-packed objects out there. They usually have the density of something akin to loosely packed icy dirt.

"So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers," said Yeomans. "It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."

Yeomans did have one final thought on comet Elenin.

"This comet may not put on a great show. Just as certainly, it will not cause any disruptions here on Earth. But there is a cause to marvel," said Yeomans. "This intrepid little traveler will offer astronomers a chance to study a relatively young comet that came here from well beyond our solar system's planetary region. After a short while, it will be headed back out again, and we will not see or hear from Elenin for thousands of years. That's pretty cool."

NASA detects, tracks and characterizes asteroids and comets passing relatively close to Earth using both ground- and space-based telescopes. The Near-Earth Object Observations Program, commonly called "Spaceguard," discovers these objects, characterizes a subset of them, and predicts their paths to determine if any could be potentially hazardous to our planet.

JPL manages the Near-Earth Object Program Office for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington, DC. JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena.

More information about asteroids and near-Earth objects is at: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch , and on Twitter: @asteroidwatch .

DC Agle (818) 393-9011
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
agle@jpl.nasa.gov

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Why has never occurred to them to land a probe on a comet so that it can be carried out by the comet further to the outskirts of the solar system and in a faster fashion?

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Why has never occurred to them to land a probe on a comet so that it can be carried out by the comet further to the outskirts of the solar system and in a faster fashion?

not good science. They have lots of crafts going out on their own where they can get a 360 view. The crafts also fly faster than comets. We have a craft about to intercept a comet inbound and fly with it for 2 years.

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Why has never occurred to them to land a probe on a comet so that it can be carried out by the comet further to the outskirts of the solar system and in a faster fashion?

not good science. They have lots of crafts going out on their own where they can get a 360 view. The crafts also fly faster than comets. WE have a craft about to intercept a comet inbound and fly with it for 2 years.

By WE do you mean Guyana?

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Why has never occurred to them to land a probe on a comet so that it can be carried out by the comet further to the outskirts of the solar system and in a faster fashion?

not good science. They have lots of crafts going out on their own where they can get a 360 view. The crafts also fly faster than comets. WE have a craft about to intercept a comet inbound and fly with it for 2 years.

By WE do you mean Guyana?

Guyana is still to repair its helicopter that is sitting somewhere rusting away. Comet chasing is way way off if ever.

We do however have lots of unpolluted skies ( light) for great near earth astronomy and ought to be producing lots of young astronomers

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Richard C. Hoagland

Richard C. Hoagland. The last time I heard from Hoagland he was claiming that the United States never went to the moon. This guy is like Ron Paul. Don't waste your time.

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Richard C. Hoagland

Richard C. Hoagland. The last time I heard from Hoagland he was claiming that the United States never went to the moon. This guy is like Ron Paul. Don't waste your time.

Richard Hoagland is not a moon landing denier. He was one of the authors of a book called Who mourns for apollo? in which he defended the alteration of the lunar pictures not as hoax but as a conspiracy to hide what the astronauts actually saw on the moon. According to Hoagland the austronauts of the apollo mission took photographs of "ancient runis on the moon", which included glass domes and obelisks.

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Richard C. Hoagland

Richard C. Hoagland. The last time I heard from Hoagland he was claiming that the United States never went to the moon. This guy is like Ron Paul. Don't waste your time.

Richard Hoagland is not a moon landing denier. He was one of the authors of a book called Who mourns for apollo? in which he defended the alteration of the lunar pictures not as hoax but as a conspiracy to hide what the astronauts actually saw on the moon. According to Hoagland the austronauts of the apollo mission took photographs of "ancient runis on the moon", which included glass domes and obelisks,

if he said that then he is nuts. No wonder he wrote the piece u used to open this thread.

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Richard Hoagland is not a moon landing denier. He was one of the authors of a book called Who mourns for apollo? in which he defended the alteration of the lunar pictures not as hoax but as a conspiracy to hide what the astronauts actually saw on the moon. According to Hoagland the austronauts of the apollo mission took photographs of "ancient runis on the moon", which included glass domes and obelisks.

This looks like an unfinished coconut/casava grater. Then man got tricked by a sly guyanese.

Online craze over looming “comet doomsday”

Published: 12 May, 2011, 17:25
Edited: 13 May, 2011, 10:35


A misreported April Fool’s joke sparked panic on the internet over a comet discovered by a Russian astronomer. Conspiracy theorists believe that the Elenin comet is an alien spaceship and demand that the scientist discloses data hushed up by NASA.
The web uproar focuses on the comet C/2010 X1, which was first discovered on December 10, 2010. Alien enthusiasts believe that it has a cluster of alien-made objects, most likely spacecraft, hiding in its tail. They fear that when the comet gets closer to Earth, the aliens will show themselves, and the first contact is likely to be a disaster. They expect doomsday on September 10.

The panic-sparking claims originate from Argentinean astronomer Sergio Toscano, whose report on the alien theory was cited by a number of Latin American media outlets. The scientist said the data came from the Chinese national space agency.

But the true origin of the story comes from a British newspaper, which published it as an April Fool’s joke. The astronomer may have been misguided by the fact that the Latin American counterpart for April Fool’s Day, Feast of the Holy Innocents, is celebrated on December 28.

Nevertheless, the internet rumor mill was quick to spread the story, which mutated into an alien invasion scare. Some even matched the comet with the infamous Nibiru planet.
“Non-existent” scientist’s misadventure
And the person arguably affected most by the scare is the Russian scientist who discovered the comet in the first place. Leonid Elenin from the Keldysh Institute of Applied Mathematics in Moscow became the first target for the enquiries, demands and threats of all the worried souls.

“It was somewhat funny at first, and I even surfed the internet to see what they say, but now I’m scared to do it. I’m really irritated. I’m really disappointed that this nonsense appeared in the Russian segment of the web,” the astronomer told RIA Novosti news agency.

According to Elenin, conspiracy theorists go as far as claiming that he is a front firm for NASA or other government agencies, who try to put a lid on the information about the alleged upcoming disaster.

“I’ve seen discussions about what Leonid Elenin actually means. ‘Ele’ is ‘extinction level event’ and ‘nin’ is Nibiru in November,” the scientist said.

The astronomer did his best to explain that there is nothing special about the comet he detected, apart from the fact that it was the first comet discovered by a Russian astronomer in two decades.

He believes the hysteria has been fueled by the photo of the comet made by a tracking camera, which resulted in two nearby stars leaving stretched markings.

“There’s the comet flying and there are tracks from the two stars. I read an article claiming those two ‘cylinders’ are the spacecraft,” Elenin explained.

The Elenin comet is to flyby Earth at an estimated distance of 35,000,000 kilometers in mid-October. You would need good binoculars or a telescope to see it harmlessly pass and go away.

Is Comet Elenin an incoming spacecraft heralding a New Age?
July 4, 2011

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.

Comet Elenin is an incoming spacecraft or intelligently controlled object according to a number of presenters at a recently completed conference hosted online by the popular whistleblower website – Project Camelot. Several presenters agreed that Elenin will approach its closest points near the Sun and Earth at a time of extraordinary planetary and societal changes coinciding with the end of the Mayan Calendar. A number of anonymous whistleblowers were cited in support of the view that Elenin was an artificially controlled object responsible for widespread planetary changes in the solar system. The conference broke important ground in uncovering some of the mystery surrounding Comet Elenin, and revealing expert opinions and whistleblower testimonies describing its artificial design and the significance of its orbit. In a surprising omission, the conference organizers did not feature ground breaking scientific literature detailing the seismic impact of Elenin on Earth. Combining insights from the overlooked scientific data and the conference proceedings points to an extraordinary conclusion – Comet Elenin is generating powerful gravity disruption technologies indicative of one or more interstellar spacecraft travelling towards Earth.

The Conference: Elenin was hosted by Kerry Cassidy and featured five presenters who discussed their research data and insights on Comet Elenin. Richard Hoagland, Dr Joseph Farrell, Keith Hunter, Dr Carl Johan Calleman, and Andy Lloyd. Hoagland began the conference with a succinct presentation on the significance of Elenin’s orbit, and why this pointed to it being either an artificial object under intelligent control (an ancient spacecraft) or a natural body (a comet) that has been deliberately launched on an artificial orbit. He placed special emphasis on Elenin’s perihelion (closest point to the sun) on September 11, 2011 as evidence that this was a result of artificial design to draw attention to the profound geopolitical events that occurred ten years earlier. Hoagland also pointed out that around the time Elenin would be passing by the Earth’s orbit on its outbound leg, that another celestial object Asteroid 2005YU55 would pass only 200,000 miles from the Earth on November 8. This was ‘coincidentally’ one day before FEMA was scheduling a FEMA Homeland Security Test where many television and radio networks would relinquish air time for some security drill – coincidence or did national security leaders know something of major significance was about to happen?

The next presenter was Keith Hunter who claimed that planets radiate harmonic signatures that influence orbits and seismic activity. Hunter clamed that Elenin is a small mass that could do something unusual if caught up in powerful harmonic configurations. Hunter’s most important contribution was to point out the relationship between seismic activity and planetary configurations. Sadly, he was not aware of the work conducted by Dr Mensur Omerbashich who had put together an exhaustive study of Elenin’s alignments with a number of planetary bodies during powerful seismic events on Earth. Dr Omerbashich claims that since 2006, comet Elenin has had a measurable impact on the Earth’s seismic activity. Dr Omerbashich’s paper was released on April 11, 2011 and is titled “Astronomical Alignments as the cause of ~M6 + seismicity.”His basic idea is that as planetary bodies align with the Earth, seismic activity increases. He provides historic data on large earthquakes, greater than magnitude 6, and how these have occurred during planetary alignments.

The Mayan Calendar according to the next conference presenter, Dr Carl Calleman, operates in 9 distinct levels or waves. The ninth wave, coinciding with the End of the Mayan Calendar, occurs on October 28, 2011. Calleman believes that the world will enter a New Age based on an expanding “unity consciousness.” While the precise ending of the Mayan Calendar is disputed by others advocating a December 21, 2012 end date, Calleman has produced cogent arguments for the October 2011 end date. He noted that the date coincides with Elenin’s crossing of Earth’s orbit suggesting it may have far more significance than generally attributed to it.

The main conference organizer, Kerry Cassidy, revealed that a number of anonymous whistleblowers had revealed that Elenin is a piloted spacecraft, and in fact was being trailed by a fleet of spacecraft. Hoagland claims that he has been confidentially told similarly by other whistleblowers of the artificial nature of Elenin. Dr Joseph Farrell agreed and claimed that Elenin was either an artificial object (controlled spacecraft) or a natural object placed in an artificial orbit. In probably the most significant observation of the conference, Hoagland claimed that Elenin was likely an “active torsion field generator.”

A torsion field describes the influence a spinning object exerts on its environment. In the case of a slowly spinning stationary gyroscope, for example, the torsion field has been observed to be almost zero. However, for moving gyroscopes rotating at velocities above 20,000 RPM, the torsion field has been observed to have a number of interesting properties. Russian scientists have been the leaders in the study of torsion fields. The most revolutionary results so far reveal that torsion fields impact on gravity and travel faster than electromagnetic radiation or radio signals. Professor Nikolai Kozyrev, a Russian pioneer in the study of torsion fields, experimentally confirmed that torsion fields travel at least 109 times the speed of light.

Kozyrev’s observations were experimentally confirmed by numerous other Russian scientists together with a few western colleagues. The work of Kozyrev and other scientists points to torsion fields as a possible means for extraterrestrial civilizations to travel large interstellar and even intergalactic distances. Significantly, the whistleblower, Bob Lazar revealed that extraterrestrial spacecraft used gravity waves for both navigation and propulsion purposes. Torsion field generators could be used to create the necessary gravity waves for spacecraft traveling long distances.

All presenters agreed that Elenin was not a super-large planetary body such as a red dwarf star mentioned by some researchers that was generating some alarm in the general public. As observed in an earlier article by this writer, Elenin’s orbit indicates that it is not a red dwarf star or large planetary body. In short, Elenin has a small mass as most astronomers contend, and indeed emphasized by Andy Lloyd and others in the Elenin conference. Yet, the pronounced seismic influence when it aligned with the Earth and the sun or other planetary body, as observed by Dr Omerbashich, indicated that Elenin was somehow exerting a powerful gravitational influence. If not a large planetary body, then Elenin’s seismic influence could be explained by it generating powerful gravity waves over long distances. Elenin was generating a powerful torsion field effect – something one or more spacecraft could be doing if traveling along Elenin’s orbital path to the inner solar system.



In conclusion, the Project Camelot: Elenin conference provided a number of important insights into Comet Elenin – the most important being its artificiality, the torsion field effects it was exerting, and the possibility that it is some kind of spacecraft. Unfortunately, the omission of Dr Omerbashich’s work in the discussion meant that seismic impact of Elenin through planetary alignments was not adequately covered. If Elenin is generating powerful torsion field effects and seismicity, these can be expected to magnify as it gets closer. This is especially so when Elenin aligns with the Earth and the sun on September 26, 2011. If Elenin, however, is one or more intelligently guided spacecraft, then the torsion fields it is generating may vary as it approaches and passes by the Earth.

It’s now less than four months before Elenin passes by the Earth’s orbit, around October 28, 2011, and its eventual influence is unknown and arousing considerable speculation. The timing of passing by the Earth, the end of the Mayan Calendar according to Dr Calleman, does offer the tantalizing possibility of Elenin being a harbinger of a New Age. Alternatively, Elenin may be a small comet that will have little to no impact as it passes near the Earth as NASA and many astronomers contend. Fortunately, we do not have long to find out what precisely Elenin’s influence will be.

[Correction - 7/8/11] Dr Omerbashich’s name and paper was briefly mentioned at the three hour mark of the video conference by Andy Lloyd. To his credit Lloyd pointed out that Omerbashich’s planetary alignment theory suggested that November 22, 2011 would be a key date to watch which is when Elenin aligns with the Earth and the sun. Hunter also mentioned the November 22 date as important alignment date, without mentioning Omerbashich’s work. Unfortunately, Lloyd’s brief reference to Dr Omerbashich mistakenly refered to November 22 as the “second opposition” where the Sun and Elenin were aligned with the Earth. He referred to the March 2011 Japan EQ as the “first opposition”. This is an incorrect intepretation of Dr Omerbashic’s work which discusses multiple instances where Elenin and the Earth were in alignment and major seismic activity occurred.

you think its for sale

Hoagland makes his living promoting conspiracy theories. You guys don't give him any attention.

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Hoagland makes his living promoting conspiracy theories. You guys don't give him any attention.

He would not have a living if there were not enough of Lucas and Henry around.

Humans have been under observation by superior races and civilizations for millenniums. Earth is their lab, humans their guinea pigs. The ancients called them gods. Stupid humans dreaming of god's salvation are like guinea pigs looking forward to being used for experimentation.