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October 5,2017

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Dear Editor,

I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to be at the Pegasus Hotel two weeks ago where the University of Guyana had a panel discussion on the Constitution of our country. I believed that each panellist did a good job in their presentation. The moderator was excellent and was mindful of those of us who asked questions not to have a mini-presentation. I asked one question as to whether constitutional reform was for the benefit of the leadership of the PPP and the PNC, or  the people of Guyana.

Our current constitution was preceded by a referendum on July 10th, 1978. I remember this date as if it was yesterday. If you were to vote ‘yes’ for the new constitution, the symbol was a house, and for a ‘no’ vote, the symbol was a mouse. On the day of the referendum, there was literally no one in the streets. You could have slept in the middle of the road and nothing would have disturbed you. All of the observers of that referendum reported that a very small percentage of voters went to the poll. I believe that the members of the army, police, national service and other military organizations made up the voting population of the day. Even the supporters of the PNC stayed away. When the results were announced, 419,936 ‘aliens’ voted ‘yes’ and 8,956 persons noted ‘no’.

Our new constitution came into being from a massive irregularity. The ‘official’ constitution came into effect on October 6th, 1980. I remember the leadership of the PPP, including Dr Jagan and Moses Nagamootoo shouting from the rooftop that this Burnham constitution must be opposed, and we must fight to replace this draconian constitution. I said a simple prayer that God will give the PPP the opportunity to be in power so they can replace it. My prayer was answered 12 years later in October 1992. I told myself that Dr Jagan would immediately set the stage to rewrite our constitution. I waited, and waited, and waited. Nothing of substance happened, and as dem boys she, we get ‘larwa’. Fast forward to 2015, I believed that the APNU+AFC coalition would have constitutional reform as a major priority. Again, we are getting more ‘larwa’.

Our recent history of attempts at constitutional reform seem to suggest that any reform that is to be made must first be in the interest of, and for the benefit of the leadership of the PPP and the PNC, hence my question to the panellist. The Guyanese people continue to be pawns in the PPP and PNC games. Nothing of substance will emerge with these two albatrosses in the equation. Do the Guyanese people understand why the PPP and PNC refused to change the articles that give the presidency to the party with the most votes and the list system still remains as solid as a rock? It is in the interest of the leadership of the PPP and the PNC, and that is what matters to them.

One of my recommendations for consideration in any new constitution is as follows: Any political party that seeks to contest any elections in Guyana, shall have in the make-up of its leadership and members, a direct proportion of the ethnic composition of the population. This must be independently confirmed by an independent elections commission before the party is allowed to contest any election.

Yours faithfully,

Charles Sugrim

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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

Django
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Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

Too bad the PPP did not get it done. Is there a reason why your PNC installed government cannot get it done? You support them and still support them. Can you make that phone call today? We will be waiting to hear why an election campaign saturated with constitutional reform promises are not fulfilled.

FM
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times.   The question here is not constitutional reform.  The question is why The PNC is not abiding with the constitution.  For 20 years GECOM worked well.  The PPP picked a name from the Oppostion's list.  What we have here is breach of the constitution by the PNC.  In every other country this would be jail time.  In Guyana, it's an ongoing circus, cheered on by some here on GNI.

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times. 

this the second time you are regurgitating the same,

show us the 100 amendments or stay put.

Django
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times. 

this the second time you are regurgitating the same,

show us the 100 amendments or stay put.

Read Nandlall's article.  He spelled out every one of them.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times. 

this the second time you are regurgitating the same,

show us the 100 amendments or stay put.

Read Nandlall's article.  He spelled out every one of them.

Post the article and i will verify if it's true.

I have a copy of the Constitution.

Django
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times. 

this the second time you are regurgitating the same,

show us the 100 amendments or stay put.

Read Nandlall's article.  He spelled out every one of them.

Post the article and i will verify if it's true.

I have a copy of the Constitution.

Check his Facebook page, you are on there every day.  What would you like to see amended in the constitution?

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times. 

this the second time you are regurgitating the same,

show us the 100 amendments or stay put.

Read Nandlall's article.  He spelled out every one of them.

Post the article and i will verify if it's true.

I have a copy of the Constitution.

Check his Facebook page, you are on there every day.  What would you like to see amended in the constitution?

Did you miss this from my post,

"That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System."

Django
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times.   The question here is not constitutional reform.  The question is why The PNC is not abiding with the constitution.  For 20 years GECOM worked well.  The PPP picked a name from the Oppostion's listWhat we have here is breach of the constitution by the PNC.  In every other country this would be jail time.  In Guyana, it's an ongoing circus, cheered on by some here on GNI.

The Constitution gives too much power to the President,

what's good for the Goose but not for the Gander.

Your last sentence about "jail" is mediocre.

Django
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django wastes no time in defending the PNC every time someone attacks them.

In the same breath he superficially talks about the evils of both parties and the failure of constitutional reforms. 

Well if you perceive i am defending the PNC,that's your take,i am not brainwashed and give jack his jacket.

With regards to superficially,you are wrong again.

Django
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django wastes no time in defending the PNC every time someone attacks them.

In the same breath he superficially talks about the evils of both parties and the failure of constitutional reforms. 

Well if you perceive i am defending the PNC,that's your take,i am not brainwashed and give jack his jacket.

With regards to superficially,you are wrong again.

Bai Django, Your Jack has a torn and dirty jacket. If you take your Jack's jacket and stand it up, it will stand straight up from all the shit piled into the seems. Time you abandon jack and his jacket. Find another Jack to give him a new jacket.

FM
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django is happy with the larwa once he continues to get lil surwa from the APNU/AFC boys.

Nah bhai Billy,I man good with the few pennies.

That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System.

The two peas of the same pod are not interested,Power for the Politicians,the Guyanese people are asleep,don't know when they will wake up and kick these crooks out.

The PPP amended the constitution over 100 times. 

this the second time you are regurgitating the same,

show us the 100 amendments or stay put.

Read Nandlall's article.  He spelled out every one of them.

Post the article and i will verify if it's true.

I have a copy of the Constitution.

Check his Facebook page, you are on there every day.  What would you like to see amended in the constitution?

Did you miss this from my post,

"That Constitution need an overhaul,my expectations are that the PPP would have done some real amendments to the articles relating to the Electoral System."

Question, maybe you have the answer, I do not know. Can any one party change the constitution without the agreement of the other major party?

Z
Zed posted:
 

Question, maybe you have the answer, I do not know. Can any one party change the constitution without the agreement of the other major party?

Zed,

From what i gathered for a New Constitution there have to be a referendum.

Amendments to the Constitution can be tabled by any Party with input from the people and passed by two thirds member of Parliament,there are grey areas about the the two third MP,recall how some bills was passed in the earlier current Parliament when the PPP was not sitting.

Django
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